>> rose: welcome to the program, i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, in the aftermath of las vegas, new calls to toughen gun regulations. an uncertain future for iran nuclear deal and ed sheeran performance in our studio. ♪ your love within me for somebody like me ♪ ♪ come on now follow my lead ♪ i may be be crazy let's not talk too much ♪ ♪ put your body on me ♪ come follow my lead come follow follow my lead ♪ >> rose: we'll have those stories and more on what happened and what might have happened. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and

information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> and so you begin how? >> it's till emergency. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something? >> i think it's all linked together actually. >> rose: what is the object lesson? tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was a week the gunman killed 58 and wounded hundreds of concert goers in the worst mass shooting in modern american history. word came from the white house that the president would decertify the iran nuclear deal. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> the death of a rock 'n' roll icon. >> tom petty has died at the age of 66. >> rose: the investigation into the las vegas massacre continues.

>> the motive of the attacker is unknown. >> hundreds of people answering calls in the wake of the shooting to donate blood. >> the killers girlfriend. back on american soil, with investigators eager to know what she knows. >> throwing and lobbying paper towels at us as if we were animals. >> nbc report that said he had nearly resigned over clashes in the administration. >> kazuo ishigura has been named this win are of nobel prize in literate. >> whoever hacked my yahoo account now has access to my car works. >> rose: former equifax ceo on the hot seat in capitol hill. >> the former ceo of equifax.

>> wow. ♪ why you got to be so rude >> sexist comments he made to a female player who asked him about passing groups. >> the wildest of wild card games. the dance of the nlgs. ♪ ♪ >> rose: we begin this program with news out of washington after weeks of speculation, and against the advice of his national security advisors, president trump is expected to decertify the iran nuclear deal next week. what does that mean for the future? david sanger joins me from washington. he is the nationality security correspondent for the new york times. david let's begin to explain the difference between decertifying

or failing to certify and withdrawal? >> the certification process is merely an internal u.s. government process in which the white house talks to congress. and in this case, the president is required, under the legislation that passed after the iran deal was signed by the obama administration, to certify to congress every 90 days that iran is in compliance with the deal. and the idea at the time they did this was to hold president obama's feet to the fire. they didn't really imagine how this would play out when a republican president got elected. it has no effect on the deal itself. unless congress in the 60 days after that notification, then decides to impose or reimpose the economic sanctions on iran that were lifted in return for iran shipping 98% of its nuclear

fuel out of the country and dismantling a bunch of its facilities and allowing free range. then congress, if it does nothing, would basically signal that the deal can remain in effect. and the president would hope to create leverage to reopen the deal or negotiate something else with the iranians. the problem they've run into is the europeans have said if you try to leave this deal, we're not coming with you. we think it's working. the chinese, the russians have all said that. president trump's defense secretary says he believes they are in compliance. the secretary of state says he believes they're in compliance. the chairman of the joint chiefs have said he believes they are in compliance. only the president himself and the warehouse seems to do a desophistication with no furtheo

further acts. >> rose: even if they are in compliance, they are violating the spirit? >> that's right. there is some preamble language that using this agreement to foster peace and better understanding around the world, and perhaps build a bigger and deeper ri relationship, and the president is saying because iran is continuing to oops support terrorism and it is, because iran is continuing to meddle and deepen its relationship inside syria and it is, because iran is continuing to launch ballistic missiles and they are, that as a result the spirit of the agreement is not being complied with. this is his way around the fact that the inspectors have said iran is doing whatever they're supposed to do. and so the question here is,

does the certification cover the little words inside this 130, 140 page agreement, or does it also cover the feel of this? and you know, if you look at the legislation, charlie, the president is within his rights to declare that he no longer believes that the agreement is within the national security interest of the united states. with. >> rose: turning now to politics and our white house watch, we temperature to mike allen. mike let's begin with the role that presidents have always been able to do, try heal the nation at the time of tragedy and stress. we've had a series of hurricanes in caribbean, floods in houston, a terrible disaster in puerto rico and we've also had a shooting, the worst mass shooting in america's history happened in las vegas.

how is the president doing in terms of operating as one who represents the nation's sympathy and grief? >> well charlie we have to pause here to show how sobering those pictures have been from puerto rico and how sobering las vegas is, when you think of how many lives and families around the country were touched, where so many others have had such great times. charlie you're asking about the president as consoler in chief, not something he's good at. but here's the news, he knows he's not good at. charlie remember for many decades this is someone who wouldn't shake hands with strangers, the president is a gergermophobe, he would shake hs and use purell afterwards. the shaking hands with folks is not his thing.

but charlie he is extremely attuned to the images, the pictures. he watches what happens after these visits and he nasa knows it's something he has to be -- he knows it's something he has to be better at. >> rose: let's talk about, he alerted the white house press and said stay tuned. >> this is the president as showman. so charlie we saw the president thursday night having dinner with these military officials, taking these pictures, and then saying, to the press corps, think of this as the calm before the storm. and we have the commander in chief saying calm before the storm, that is going to set off radar, all around the world. so the reporters in the moment asked him are we talking about north korea, are we talking about i.s.i.s, like what are we talking about here? that's when the president said you'll see. now he likes to flummox the press, he likes to kind of fool

us. he saw a good picture and he likes a cliff hanger. he likes a teaser. that's what this was. >> rose: we had the white house and the president essentially saying to his secretary of state, rex tillerson, suggesting to the president there might be back channels that are operative, saying you're not going to be successful, diplomacy cannot work. when can you hear the secretary of state hold a press conference saying, i'm not going to fully support the president? >> this happened after a meeting at the pentagon, of all places, that the secretary of state referred to the president as a moron. there are not a single person that doubts that he said that but after being consolidated, secretary tillerson who wasn't doing much with the press as you all know, made a statement and didn't deny that he called his

boss a moron. if it did not occur he would have taken that opportunity to let that slip. the spokes woman later said he had not used that language but at that point it wasn't particularly believable. but charlie what was fascinating was what happened next. the president didn't let it pass. the president didn't brush it off, the president was furious. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: puerto rico continues the real in the aftermath of hurricane maria more than two weeks after the storm half the population doesn't have access to drinking water. 95% of the power grid remains down. the official death toll is 34 but that number is expected to rise. cbs news correspondent david begnaud has been reporting from hardest hit areas of the island.

>> i've never covered a disaster when the emergency is endless, 15 days outs and it's still an emergency. >> rose: is that because of the severity or because puerto rico wasn't prepared for this thing, can you ever be prepared or because the rescue effort has what is interesting is every day the governor stood at a podium and said we're getting everything we need from the government, they couldn't be helping us more. i said on day 14, what do you need to move this past emergency situation? he said i needed extra hechts, - helicopters, extra with us drivers. you know why, the bus drivers couldn't move the supplies, they had to stay with their family, they knew it was coming, the governor predicted the power would be out for entire island, you know how long places could be out? over a year. >> a person from my apartment

just was able to talk to his mother in the last couple of days, couldn't reach her. there has to be thousands of cases like that. are. >> i know of puerto ricans who got in a plane and that's the only way they could check on their mother or father. >> rose: how did puerto rico recovery? >> they are in bankruptcy. you have a dilapidated infrastructure. if anything, this is what the governor said puerto rico had needed. they couldn't get the money to replace it before the storm but need it, still places with no drinking water, drinking water from a stream and bathing in it. we've heard they are now sending fuel tankers to isolated areas of the island that have been deemed areas ever special need and those tankers are going to be specifically positioned at those municipalities. what took 15 days? >> rose: you're the roart,

what took 15 days? >> when we asked the governor, we never got straight answers. you've told us you were able to get food to every municipality around the island. why do people still see more? he said what we think is happening, the food is going to a distribution area in the middle of town but people don't know it's there. we can't reach them because there's no phone communication. i said what are you going to do? he said we are going to use mega phones, if we can't drive around and do it we'll use a helicopter with an intercom system to do it. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: ta-nehesi coates new book was, we were in eight years of power, an american tragedy, during the obama administration that examined the issue of race and the first black presidency,

the book's epilogue, the first black president was featured in this month's issue of the atlantic. >> the basic idea was to take the essays during the obama years and put them together with one single volume with an intro, epilogue, the ep loag same, hope you enjoyed it, some of the blogging i did during that period, i began to see the possibilities of a different book emerging. one a memoir. >> laced between the actual essays i was writing. i took eight of them and i wrote a kind of story with the linkage being the thought process that went into each piece and where i was in my life. >> rose: great thing to do. it is legacy of slavery that you believe informs the relationship between black and white today. >> i think without the legacy of

slavery those labels black and white would have no meaning in our society, no political purchase i should say. >> rose: do they have any meaning in france where you just spent a year? >> they do, three do. but one of the issues i make in the book, politics and issues of power, i am black here and obviously when i go there they see me as black but as soon as i open my mouth that is not the predominant identity i have with them. >> rose: it is an intellectual identity? >> it is an american identity. >> rose: rather than a black man? >> that's most important. when i start talking immediately, it's almost they have their issues with racism i'm going to be very clear but it's with black people and i would argue much more, even cases of north african people that they really have a history with. >> rose: you said when you look at your own growth over the last eight years you've become more radical. >> i think so.

>> rose: how do you define your radicalism? >> my basic thoughts about poverty in this country, stronger safety net, the desire for people to have dignity in their -- >> rose: that doesn't sound radical to me. >> that's what i'm saying, nothing changed, that's where i whereas before. i didn't even consider white supremacy as central to american history. i didn't understand it that way. in 2008. >> rose: how do you think we grow out of that? >> i think it is the work he generations. i don't know how we -- worker generations. i don't know how we grow out of it actually. >> rose: it is a sign of our times isn't it? >> it is, it is. the first step is to take it seriously. d when you have a president of the united states who is objecting to a statue wh of a

general who kidnapped black people from the north, it's tough to get to the blue sky question that you're asking because we're still down here on ground level, arguing about things that really should be obvious. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kazuo ishigura was awarded the nobel prize for literate this week, among other things, the committee took notice of his novel, the buried giant. how memory relates to oblivion, history to the present and fantasy to reality. here is kazuo ishigura in 2015 talking about the burr the buried giant. >> i'm a bit before aviation these guys used to make kind of funny flying machines in their backyard. i feel like i'm a bit like that. i'm just trying get this thing

that will fly, for a long time it doesn't fly and i'm putting this piece onto and finally it kind of flies. but i don't really know what it looks like. it may look really weird to someone coming at it fresh. >> rose: but do you know what it is or does it have to be something in your mind? is it for example a love story? >> it's certainly a love story. it's a love story. but it's a love story of a certain kind because when we say love story we usually mean a courtship story. a story of two people coming together and the story ends when they declare love to each other. this is kind of a love story -- i think there should be more love stories like this one. it's about the decades, the years, it's the long distance of love. it's about all those years that you struggle to keep the flame alive and this is about a man and a woman who are determined to stand by each other right to the end. >> rose: they suffer from a kind of amnesia?

>> yeah, this is kind of what i had when i was talking about getting my flying machine together. this was one of the main problems. i start off with a kind of a story that i can almost express in two or three lines in the abstract. and i often can't find the right way to put it off, the right setting, and one of the things i started off with is i want a situation where there's a whole community, a nation, suffering from some kind of selective memory loss. and the nation has to decide as a nation, do they want to remember everything? maybe there's been something very traumatic buried in the recent past. and maybe there was a very good reason for these things being ried about ♪ come on be my baby ♪ ♪ come on be my baby come on ♪

♪ i'm in love with your body although my heart is pulling ♪ i'm in love with your body and you were in my room and my bed sheets smell like you ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm in love with your body ♪ coul come on be my baby, i'm n love with your body ♪ >> rose: ed sheeran's has been heard on spotify. that album is called divide. >> i didn't have a plan b, i don't consider myself talented. i continue play guitar or sing, i learned to do both. i think persistence is, more -- i came to london and was not the

best singer songwriter or the best liked performer in the scene i was in and even at the time i got signed i probably wasn't the best. but the more and more you work at something you give yourself no choice but to get better. persistence was the key. a kid comes up around says how can i become a performer? it doesn't really matter if you can't sing or play. i was persistent, i never thought i would be doing anything else. i never thought i'd be playing stadiums, i thought i would make a living, even if i only got a hundred quid at the end of the night. that was all possible. >> rose: you also have no time for anything but music. and friends. >> yeah but even with friends, friends fit in between the music and they know after this i'm going into the studio again and making a song. and i just love it man, i just

love it i don't know why i'd want to do anything else. >> rose: and can you feel and see yourself just getting better and better? do you feel better at it now? >> i definitely -- some writing has become i think i've learned the art of it whereas before, i would just chuck ideas together. whereas now i kind of know. >> rose: is it the art of it? >> the art of it is all about the structure and the -- i think for me, i was always so focused on lyrics, whereas now, it's more about usually where i write a melody, lyrics will just fall into it. it's a subconscious thing that just happens. lyrics are better than i was o . with castle in the hill, there is a line in it where i say sing into -- i it's me going da da da

da, that just falls in so now some writing's more just feeling it and just letting it happen. ♪ ♪ >> here's what's new for your weekend. austin city limits begins its 43rd season on pbs, saturday. the 18th annual new yorker festival opens in new york city. >> a lot of communication can happen in silence but you have to listen. >> and harrison ford and ryan gosling are in theaters with the sci-fi thriller. "bladerunner 2049." >> i know you're here. >> and here's a look at the week ahead. sunday is the running of the chicago marathon.

monday is columbus day. tuesday is independence day in cuba. wednesday is the opening day of the new orleans film festival. thursday account annual summit of former soviet nation in sochi russia, friday is the first day of the american league championship series of basebal baseball.saturday is the day the smithsonian sacr and freer galleries reopen to the public in washington. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week." with this week we leave you with something very special. lin-manuel miranda gathered puerto rican stars.

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