hello, welcome to this special edition of "amanpour" on pbs. tonight, three women come forward to accuse president donald trump of sexual misconduct. the new york senator kirsten gillibrand long led the congressional charge for women's rights joins us for an exclusive interview. also ahead, my conversation with the actor gary oldman. nominated today for a golden globe for his uncanny portrayal of britain's war time hero, winston churchill.

>> announcer: "amanpour" on pbs was made possible by the support of rosalynn p. walter. good evening, everyone. welcome to the program. i'm cristiane amanpour in london giving you the global view. covered the world for three decades. dedicated to bringing you all the facts. today the world is watching as for the first time the #metoo campaign takes aim at president trump. three women out of the more than 13 who accused the president so far appeared at a press conference in new york to share their stories of being groped, fondled and otherwise harassed by then-citizen trump. here is rachel crooks who alleges he forcibly kissed her when she was a young receptionist at trump tower in 2005. >> i want to believe as americans we can put aside political inclinations and admit

some things do transcend politics, we will hold mr. trump to the same standard as harvey weinstein and men held accountable for their reprehensible behavior. >> women seen there with the producer of the film about their allegations are calling for a nonpartisan investigation in congress of the alleged sexual misconduct. president trump denies all of the allegations. although he was caught on tape bragging about groping women at will. the white house calls these false claims, saying the american people voice their judgment by delivering a decisive victory in the 2016 election. the allegations against the president are re-emerging at an unprecedented time in american politics. tomorrow, there is a special election in the state of alabama, when voters could send an accused child predator to the united states senate. president trump has been all in for the republican candidate, roy moore. meanwhile, democrats in congress, forced two of their own prominent members, senator

al franken and congressman john conyers to resign their seats. new york senator kirsten gillibrand led the movement started by women in the senate to compel al franken to step down. she has been wrestling with issues of abuse, accountability throughout her career. battling against sexual assault in the military, and on college campus. and she joins me now for an exclusive interview from washington. senator gillibrand, welcome to the program. >> thank you, great to be on. >> as i said this is an extraordinary moment, the saga. the world gripped n i mean here it takes aim squarely at president trump as this whole #metoo movement gains momentum. should he, should the white house be worried? >> well president trump should resign. these allegations are credible, they're numerous, i have heard the women's testimony.

many of them are heartbreaking. president trump should resign his position. whether he will ever hold himself accountable is something you, know, you really can't hold your breath for. congress should have hearings. they should do their investigation. they should have -- appropriate investigations of his behavior and hold him accountable. >> so you are standing by your prominent senator colleagues, senator cory booker and other whose have called today for the president to resign. i hear you clearly agreeing with them. do you've think though, that there should be, as these women have sca have called for bipartisan investigation. or are you calling for immediate resignation? he doesn't we should have thely investigation. >> you know, i wonder whether you read anything different into some of the prominent women around the president. it was quite extraordinary over the weekend, when his own u.n. envoy nikki haley said that these women who cues any accuse

should be heard or dealt with. women should feel comfortable coming forward. we should all be willing to listen to them. is -- is there a movement on his own side, do you think now amongst women? >> i think the point she is making is that this is a very powerful moment in america's history. not only should women be heard. but they should be believed. and they should be investigated. so when you have these allegations come, coming forward, those allegations should be investigated, just look you investigate any other allegation of fraud or crime committed, why do we not believe women? why do we not investigate their allegations? so they should be believed and should be investigated as a consequence, and so, i think, president trump should be held accountable. that's why i think the women are coming forward. they want the accountability. ceos being fired on the spot for this behavior and worse. and, president trump has the committed assault according to the women. those are very credible

allegations of misconduct. criminal activity. he should be fully investigate and should resign. >> before i move on to roy moore, the, the candidate, the republican candidate for the senate, special election in alabama can i first ask you about what you sort of started in the senate regarding your own senator, al franken, also in congress, with john conyers, long-time of congressman. you know, you say they should resign. why wutds it not okay for you to wait for the ethics investigation process to take its course? what made you, what was the tipping point for you and the other women? >> well this was very heartbreaking for all of us. we -- we worked well with, with -- senator franken. and it was hard for us personally. when we heard about the eighth allegation it was too much. enough was enough. these were credible allegations from multiple sources. and, you know, having a debate about, what's the difference

between sexual assault and sexual harassment, and, unwanted groping, if you having that debate and trying to split hairs you are really having the wrong conversation. none of this behavior its okay. and i wanted to, to, finally speak my mind on that issue. that's why i, expressed myself as the i did, with my, op-ed, talked about how i see this issue. i don't think we should be having a conversation splitting hairs about different conduct. and to me it was enough was enough. i wanted to express myself which is what i did? >> can i ask you, senator, you have made it a cause and you have been very prominent in trying to level the playing field for women, across the board, in their professional endeavors. military, i said, campus, said it now, in congress, in the senate, has the it ever happened to you? >> no. i have been blessed that i have never had to feel that sting of a harasser or sexual assault, and have to relive the moments

publicly like so many brave women and men have. but, what we can't lose sight of, in this moment is there are so many women around america who can't tell their story. there are so many low wage women, women, hourly wages, whether they're working in bars or restaurants. in service industries. on farms across america. and, their bosses aren't famous like harvey weinstein. they can't, see accountability be held in the public eye, when these allegations come out. and they may never see justice. and they may never feel they're in a possession to come forward. that's why i am grateful for all of the women who are coming forward. and asking, for accountability. and trying to hold president trump accountable for his outrageous conduct. >> i want to dig down a little bit. obviously you democrats forced two of your prominent members to resign before even the ethics investigation. and the exact opposite is being seen on the other side of the aisle. i just spoke about roy moore, president trump now got right behind him. and i mean, is this -- a political matter in that, they

want the seat. they wanted to pass their ajen darajen -- agenda and they're going to go for it. >> don't think this should be a political matter a but doing the right thing. about hold congress accountable. hold congress to the highest standards not the lowest standards. i hope, voters in alabama, reject roy moore. because of the allegations of pedophilia are horrendous. i think these allegations are credible. i hope that, voters will volt for doug jones, some body dedicated his life to public service and justice for all. i hope they will reject him. as someone who is not fit to serve in the u.s. senate. >> i mind is mind-boggling. the world is riveted. how could somebody with that many accusations including allegations of going after minors actually almost beef about to be elected to the u.s. senate. senior republican, sorry, senior republican, senator from alabama, richard shelby,

couldn't vote for roy moore. the state of alabama deserves better. but you have a woman. female senator, senator susan collins saying if the allegations are known prior to the elect weegs have hey tough decision to make about whether it is our role as senators to overturn the will of the people. what will happen if he joins you in the u.s. senate? >> well i hope that there will be an ethics investigation and actually have an opportunity to vote to not seat him. i hope they will make a recommendation to, expulltision role they can take. i think senator shelby is right. i've couldn't vote for this person. this person shouldn't be in the u.s. senate. again, elected leaders should be held to the highest standards. not the lowest. we should beef fundamentally valuing women. that's what the larger conversation is about. do we value women? make a space for them to come forward? ##metoo is a powerful movement. a lasting movement. not just this moment in time. but we reflect on how do we treat women? do we value women in our

communities? and then empower more women to, to be heard. and, and, i also hope this continues to drive more will tine run for office. we have seen overwhelming numbers of women running for office in the last election. we need to change the players' list. whether in congress, or in corporate america, or whether in small businesses. so that, we women cannot only change the climate but hold the perpetrators of the horrible behavior towards women accountable. >> look, i need to ask you this. suddenly starting to bubble to the surface. including women. there was a big article in, the american interest, newspaper, magazine. basically saying, that there should, there could be a, a backlash. mass hysteria has set in. become a classic moral panic. one that is ultimately, dangerous to women as to men. the idea that, you know, a hand on the knee, the same standard as rape or serious abuse. are you worried about that?

>> i am not worried about that. i think we all know what kind of conduct is unacceptable. not acceptable to harass someone, people that work for you. not appropriate, or, acceptable, to, to, attack a woman, to have unwanted groping. unwanted kissing. throwing them up against a wall. list the behavior. it just is not hard to understand and i hope that this country is strong enough, is thoughtful enough, to have this conversation. and, and, take from it, that weep must value women. and men. who are also victims of sexual violence. we need to value one another. we need to care about one another. we need to treat each other with respect. not asking for something more than that. and so i hope that -- people do not feel they need to retal yalt yalt -- retaliate or exclude women. that would snow we are not up to the moment. we should be big enough to create safe work places. places where men and women can thrive to gets. that's what makes our economy grow. makes our country strong. we should be up to this moment.

so, i would just urge everyone not to make an excuse. as, and, in some way, to, to see this as, as retaliation against women. we should, we should absolutely avoid it. we should just stay strong. women should be heard. they should keep coming forward. and, and, aspire to positions of power where they can change the players list and climate. >> senator, can i ask you one last question. abut wh about what democrats stand for. read the leading article in "the washington post" today. it said in recent weeks you scored huge electoral wins in virginia. cultivated public opposition, the republican tax plan. purged two liberal senators. you know all of that, but, still can't agree on what the party stands for. what does the party stand for? and are you a potential cann candidate for the presidential race? >> no. but what we stand for -- we care about one another. we believe if you work hard every day. your work should be rewarded.

we believe every american should have a right to the american dream. if you work hard every day. work your way into the middle-class. provide for your kids. that i care about your kids as much as i care about my own. that its what we stand for. we have always stood for that. and, so whether we are fighting to reward work in the country with national paid leave, or equal pay, or affordable day care, universal prek, or whether we are valuing all of us by fighting for women's voices and making sure we are all valued in the country. that its what we stand for. we have always stood for that. and, it is, a moment in time where, we have extra ordinary candidates coming forward in a lot of them are women. first time candidates. in record numbers. certainly in the last election in november. even in the next election in 2018. more women candidates than we have ever had in the history of the country. >> you are so passionate, why wouldn't you want to run? >> i want to serve in the u.s. senate. up for my own election in 2018. i would be blessed if the state voted for me again. >> senator kirsten gillibrand.

thank you for joining us from washington. >> thank you. the #metoo movement began in hollywood. as the award season begins. it will be the first time in decades without the larger than life influence of harvey weinstein to. day the hollywood foreign press association, announced its golden globe nominees. and actor gary oldman has been nominated for best actor. for his incredible performance, as winston churchill in "the darkest hour." in this clip we see britain's iconic war time leader saving the world as we know it, by staring down the nazis refusing to surrender to hitler. >> now is the time to negotiate. >> when shall the lesson be learned. you cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth! >> all was nearly lost in 1940 as plucky britain stood alone against monstrous tyranny. another year before the united states entered the ward to

defend pratzed oldman's -- pratz praised oldman. oldman tells me about disappearing into the role. after hundreds of hours in the makeup chair. >> gary oldman, welcome to the program. >> thank you, yeah. >> you are the talk of the town. people are talking about you as a shoo-in for an oscar nomination. golden globes. you did just win an award from british film industry. how does it feel? >> it feels very good. i mean -- it, it's always, always nice when, when people acknowledge the work and they thing it is good. and there is some highs and there is some lows. you know? it's, it's, it is with any career. but, but, at the moment, it's, it its ascending. >> and it skpiz tra ordinary,

shouordinary, -- and it is extraordinary. taking on unbelievable. establishment icon, churchill, and your first big film was a completely anti-establishment, sid and nancy, sid vicious. is there any poetry in that? >> maybe i like to think there is. winston is a bit of both. he is establishment and when he, he, he, he could, he could be a bit anti-establishment too. i like to think there is perhaps some very small ten wconnection between the boechth. they thought he would save britain at the worst, precarious time, 1940. went to parliament, gave a legendary speeches. these are incredibly well known speeches. >> yes. >> how did you prepare for them? how did you even, were you daunted by delivering them? >> i was excited. i think. we shot them last.

>> really? >> yeah. because they are the heart of the film. >> yeah. shot them over 2 1/2, 3 day period. i started -- the whole building of winston with the voice. it is so iconic. >> before you get to the voice. the face. >> the face. you are unrecognizable, gary oldman. it is incredible. >> so, the makeup was -- a process which, over months, we, we worked on that. >> prosthetics. >> yes. >> we should fight in the field and in the streets.

these were great men, who, who, once roamed the earth. there were great people, speech, orators, statesmen. leaders. in the subway, the prime minister is meeting real people to ask what they would do. never surrender. never surrender to the fascists. >> right. >> and i wonder what you make of, of the fact that, that so much far right is rising in europe right now. >> his mission in life, we know that he hated -- he hated adolf hitler. with every fiber of his being. and saw the menace. and did, everything he could to, completely eradicate it. and, and wipe it off the face of

the earth. he did a pretty good job. but these, these -- it, it, it's like -- it's waiting for its opportunity to, to breed and come back to life. >> it breeds and comes back to life. >> you grew up from what i gather in a place and you played in, in, in the playground was sort of a place that was bombed out, buildings. that still hadn't been put back together. 10, 15 years after the war. what was it like sfl h? how did you grow up? your memories of that period? >> my mother would talk about the war. the war was very mucht in the air. when my mother would walk me to school. and, sort of, you know, kindergarten. there were houses, row of houses. a huge hole.

and then another two houses. and then, a big hole where, where, three were completely wiped out. facade of a building. standing with struts like a movie set behind it. brick wall. empty windows and doors. >> in the film we see the secretary. beautiful young girl. who takes dictation while the great man is in bed in his balt robalt -- bathrobe. we hear dictation. speeches from the bath. announce that he is about to get in the all together. and everybody took that for granted in those days. but with the harvey weinstein, and whole bathrobe, naked, harassment, tip is extra ordinary. there was nothing untoward. he does announce he is coming out of bathtub naked does that count? >> think it counts. he warns her off. right? yeah, a little different to open

the door in bathrobe. when you are going to a business meeting. did you know and work with harvey weinstein. did you know any of the stuff. wumtz it in the air that people didn't talk about? >> i, i -- i was never in the or it of harvey. i met harvey in 1992. i did not like him. and said let's not do business with him >> really? >> yeah. >> what did you not like about him? >> he is creepy. a metaphysical reaction. just, just, you know -- and -- i had also heard firsthand accounts. directors that he had take any way. muf movie. he had bullied people. he was a bit of a shouter and screamer. and, and -- the whole thing with

the massaging and all of that, is total revelation. i've mean -- i had not, i had not truly had not heard any of that. >> what do you think of the backlash, the reckoning the fact that women have come out, the me too and the fact that "time" magazine has rewarded that and recognized it, the silence breakers as their time person of the year. >> i sort of see it, think of it as sort of an evolution. it is evolution that, that -- it's good to think about wlhat e say, how we say it, what we do. and who we do it to, and who we say it to? i think it can only be a good thing. and it's progress. >> last question back to

churchill. one of the extraordinary and affecting pargts of t ining par. everybody read of the black dog, he had depression, and self-doubt. here we see it in technicolor. a lot of effort to portray this great hero also with all of his vulnerabilities. >> that was one of the reservations that i initially had, apart from my striking resemblance to winston churchill. >> 200 hours in the makeup seat. >> such an ol -- mythologized, can you get past the statue and reach the man? do you know, you talk to earlier, about the beginning about the, the ols cscar buzz, had a set visit, 17 of the churchills they have embraced this film and they loved, loved

the movie. and, they, randolph just, loves the portrayal. that is to me -- and he feels, all, you captured my great grandpa pa. you know the humor, energy. and that's, that's my oscar. right there. >> gary oldman. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> gary oldman, skillfully bringing our interview full circle. a final thought tonight which perhaps puts the #metoo movement in perspective. i have been covering war and women's, use in afghanistan, since 1996. and now my friend, and fellow journalist, rod norland of "the new york times" has wrilt any bo -- has written about it. some brave victims of sexual harassment are speaking out. but in afghanistan, sharing their stories can be a death

sentence. it is still a country where women are sometimes killed by their accusers or even their own families just for revealing the truth. the me too has no borders, let's hope women in afghanistan and around the world can feel safe enough to speak out about the daily abuse many face, just for daring to step outside of the home and go to work. >> that's it for our program tonight. thank you for watching, this special edition of "amanpour" on pbs. join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: "amanpour"ing on pbs was made possible by the generous support of rosalynn p. walter.

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