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>> hello and welcome. coming up on our program, we look at the key issues, the controversial decisions that have marked president trump's first year in office, as congress faces a deadline to keep the government funded. and cnn host w.kamau bell talks about his new collaboration. but first, the investigation into russian meddling took a tense turn. steve bannon appeared before the house intelligence committee in a closed door session, but refused to answer questions about his time at mean while, the house passed a bill on thursday to keep the government funded for another four weeks, but senate democrats are refusing to back any bill
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that doesn't protect about 800,000 so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers who were brought to the u.s. illegally as children. and here now to discuss all of this is california congressman adam schiff, who joins us via skype from washington, d.c. good to have you back on the program. >> thank you. great to be with you. >> we'll get to the russia investigation a molt. but i wanted to ask you about the looming government shutdown. you voted against the stop gap resolution in the house. why? some months ago, the president created a crisis to the d.r.e.a.m.ers by revoking the daca program but promised to fix it, and now republicans are proposing to continue in a spending bill to leave that unaddressed and leave these young people's lives hanging by a thread. i'm not willing to do that. i'm not willing to pass a cr and worry about this another day. there ought to be room for bipartisan agreement on this. we need to reauthorize the children's health care program, and i think it's deeply
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irresponsible shut down the government or pass another funding bill that leaves these populations vulnerable. >> the last time there was a government shutdown in 2013, the democrats charged that congress should not be held hodge stage terms of trying to keep the government funded and open. now it seems like the democrats are doing that same thing. how do you respond to that? >> this a hostage situation created by the president when he decided he was going to repeal daca and set the clock ticking. and now it's gotten to the point where d.r.e.a.m.ers are months or weeks away from being sent to countries potentially that they have no memory of ever having lived in. and at the end of the day, you have to say we need to deal with this. we can't just keep kicking the can down the road and keep their hives in such jeopardy.
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the children's health care program you can make the same point with. it's been 111 days since that program expired, and the majority is simply unwilling to deal with it unless we force them. they have a responsibility to govern. if they can't, they ought to get out of the way and let someone else do it. >> on the russia investigation, you're the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. steve bannon was supposed to testify before the committee on thursday are you giving him a x extensi extension? >> we want him back before the committee to answer those questions, and it's not steve bannon alone. we also had corey lewandowski, the campaign manager for a time on the trump campaign. he came in and didn't even give an excuse that the white house was instructing him not to answer questions. he just said i'm not going to do it. i'm not prepared to do it. and the majority let him get away wit and said come back another day when you feel like
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answering questions. it sets a precedent for the future that the congress can be run over by the white house when the party in power is the same party as majority. >> how concerned are you that the white house will exert executive privilege and bannon will not say anything at all? >> there is no basis to say executive privilege covers any meetings, conversations during the transition. and there's no precedent for saying there's such a blanket executive privilege, and they're further applying it even when he left the administration to certain conversations. if this will lose. i don't think they want to do that. what concerns me at this point is they will propose, we'll answer these questions, but not those, and the majority, which has essentially had their back, will be willing to say that's fine with us. >> what are some of the key questions that you had for steve bannon the first time around that he refused to answer? he w
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"fire and fury" talking about the meeting at trump tower being treasonous and unpatriotic. he was quite convinced that there was a followup discussion or meeting between the russians and mr. trump. and he's had obviously a lot of conversation, interactions with the administration those in the white house since this story broke. bannon could shed a lot light on obstruction of justice and collusion. >> president trump has been in office for a year now. how would you assess his first year in office? >> i've been saying over the course of the year i'm running out of adjectives and expleti& expletives. it's been a really disastrous year for our democracy, far beyond what the russians were capable of doing for us. we see the administration doing to our own system of checks and balances, attacking the free press as the envy of the people, undermining the independence of the justice department, belittling federal judges, calling them only so-called
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judges, judges in name only. they rule against the administration. we've seen a real erosion of the checks that were put in place by the founders. so hard to find much of a silver lining this year. i have to hope that things will improve the future, but it will largely depend on the congress' willingness to stand up to the worst impulses of this administration. >> what should democrats do to work bet we are the white house? >> i think the primary challenge for the democrat party is the same for the republican party, and that is to address these profound economic challenges going on. automation poses the same danger to retail jobs as globalization posed to manufacturing jobs. that is a lot of retail establishments are going out of business because of the tremendous growth of services like amazon. that trend is going to continue. and it will be hugely disruptive. now, i don't think you can stop
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automation. you can't pass a law saying we shouldn't have automation, but it we need to figure out how to make this economy work for more americans. >> as you hook to the second year, what worries you the most? >> well, i would say a couple of in dramatic fashion, this president has remade the republican party in his image. in his deepy flawed image, and these attacks on our institutions are continuing. the attacks on the press are now being amplified around the world. dictators around the world are citing president trump to dismiss reports of their own corruption. also worried some o profound economic challenges are not being addressed. the stock market is doing great, but for people not in the market, they're still struggling, and the twin forces of automation and globalization are going to be something we need to be prepared for and help people get good work and keep
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it. >> congressman adam schiff, we appreciate your time. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. good to be saturday will mark one year since president donald trump sworn into office. what a year it's been. there have been so-called travel bans, white house shakeups, criminal charges in the russia investigation, the controversial $1.5 trillion rewrite of the tax code. which promises have been kept, which ones broken and what can we expect to see in the second year of the trump presidency? joining me now with analysis are hoover institution fellow lonny chen. san francisco chronical reporter joe garafoli. and host of the npr podcast scott detro. hello to all of you. scott, let's begin with you washington. youknow, we're going to be talking about the showdown over the potential government shutdown. what happened? why do they not have a deal? wi
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as we talk, there's a good chance that president trump's first anniversary in office will be dealing with a government shutdown. as of right now, democrats are simply saying we are not going to vote for a funding resolution until there's some sort of permanent fix for the 700,000 or so people in the expiring daca program, deferred action for childhood arrivals program that protects people brought to the country children. that's where the bulk of the democratic caucus is, and even though republicans control the house, the senate, and the white house, the way senate rules are set up, democrats do have the ability to prevent a final vote if they all stick together, and as of rightnow, it looks like they are sticking together to force this issue. >> lonny, if the senate can't get a stop gap funding measure passed, what effect will this have on california, and for democrats that want to take back the house? >> i'm not sure this works well
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for either party. i think what the democrats have decided is they are going to stake all of their political good will, if you will, on the issue immigration. that's a big issue here in california, an issue that will play to their base here in california. the republicans, it tougher play, because the perception is, they're in charge of everything. obviously, they don't have 60 votes in the senate and they can't do whatever they want. so for both sides it's tricky. going to overplay their hand on immigration? for the republicans, are they going to get blamed for the shutdown? >> a poll came out today in "the washington post" said 48% of the people will blame the republicans, 28% will blame the democrats. but there was a similar pole in 2013, and it didn't do anything in terms of the election. the republicans held the house so i think the voters' memory is short. this goes as part of the larger narrative, but i don't know if
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there's a direct impact. >> how tough is it going to be for democrats to take back the house? we have 14 members of the california congressional delegation. we have republican members saying they will not re-electi re-election.overall, how hard we for democrats to flip the seats here? >> a lot than they're advertising. they're saying hillary clinton won seven of these districts. but if you look at the ones in orange county where roy and issa were, since those districts have been in existence since 2012, no democrat has won anything there. diane feinstein was beat there, jerry brown was beat there. so these districts are much mo republican than the democrats want you to >> scott? >> that being said, if you look at all the things you look at, a lot of things are going in the
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democrat's favor. president trump's low approval ratings, in the mid 30s. the amount of incumbent republicans retiring. we asked voters, would you rather see a democrat or republican in your district? the way the districts are drawn and the fact that the economy is going well, isn't going to be a walk for the democrats. >> it is a weird dichotomy. the economy is doing well, the stock market humming along. unemployment rates are the lowest in 17 years. and yet we have a president who is really doing horribly in the. so this weekend marks the anniversary of the first year of trump's presidency. how would you describe the first year of this administration, scott? >> tumultuous, a plublur, a lot uncertainty. just going from tweet to tweet, moment to moment, confrontation
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to confrontation. i think the travel ban really reflected the way the rest of the year went. just a handful of aides, do something without getting any heads up for the federal government. might not be the moy sound document. they have to go back and do things over again. but in the end, they get their message across and follow through on a big, broad promise of the campaign, which was we are going to crack down on immigration, both legal and illegal in this country. >> i know it may be hard to separate what the administration has done from the style in which it's been done, and if you take a look at what they've done, the agenda that they have moved forward on is fundamentally quite conservative. if you look at the tax overhaul, if you look at what they've done in terms of regulatory reform, if you look at appointments to the supreme court and other federal courts. really, the policy agenda that this administration has pursued is not that much different than a president jeb bush or mark -
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have pursued. so we're left with not just the style but the substance. so the question has to be as we move towards 2018, is this administration going t along that pathway or looking toward a midterm election thinking about ways to capture more voters for republicans in races around the country? >> where can republicans get together? they got together on what is the next issue that is going to be like that? we don't know. maybe it's infrastructure, but that involves a lot of governmentinvestment, and the conservative republicans don't want that. so where are they going to come together next? time is ticking. they only have several months left before the midterm election. >> scott, how are the president's policies on offshore drilling, climatechange, taxes affecting the republican party in california? >> i think i do agree if you go through the achievements, the
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direct actions taken by president trump, a lot of them are surprisingly conventional. but i don't think that you can dismiss style and substance so easily, because that's the main way most people interact with the president. they see him in the news, they see him on the twitter feeds and in social media. and i think that is one reason why president trump has a low approval rating, even though the economy is going so well. i think the biggest change that republicans have to deal with is the way that so many suburbans voters have been turned off by president trump by the style and substance. so i think a republican candidate, especially in the southern california districts that hillary clinton carried, are going to have to work really hard to say i'm a republican, i'm conservative. here's what i stand for. here's what i want to talk about and try to keep donald trump out of the campaign as much as possible. >> the democratic party already set up field operations in california nearly six months ago. they're raising funds, and given
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that midterm elections, turnout is usually low, are they going t they're for? >> the kind of voters they want to come out are latino voters. there was a poll out this week that said, this is an off the charts number, but 68% of registered latino numbers are thinking of voting. the last time this was a midterm election in california, 25% of the voters voted. that's like an off the chart number. there is that energy that we see in the streets, the indivisible groups, all these swing left and grassroots groups that come up. it's one thing to protest in the streets, another one to cast ballots. >> that's what the democrats will need to motivate that base, that explains why the shutdown politics we're seeing today are playing out the way they are. democrats decided the immigration issue is crucial. and that's why they decided the
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shutdown could be worth it. the challenge for republicans in california, they're having a tough time fielding candidates but the second problem is, in the districts where republicans could potentially hold on, for example in southern california, you have very competitive races between republicans. so if you have a crowded primary, that will make it difficult hold on to those seats. >> and you now have former governor arnold schwarzenegger, they have an organization to try to save the state republican party. too little too late? >> i don't think it's too little too late. i think republican party needs a brand independent of donald trump in california. i don't know if that's possible. the question is, what is the next generation of republican leadership going to look like? is it folks that are more prerogative on social and environmental issues, while still remaining conservative on economic issues? i don't think that republicanism in california is dead, but it's certainly life support. >>scott, there's a lot of talk about california being funnished for being viewed as an epicenter
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of the resistance. you were seeing things like florida getting an exemption from offshore drilling where california from where you sit in washington, d.c., is that true? is there a sense there from the administration that california will and should be and is being punished? >> i mean, i think there have been a lot of things that have happened that you can make that argument. it fits into a broader pattern that president trump focused on the people that sent him into the oval office and viewed himself as the people who voted for him. again, i keep going back to the style, because i think that is important. you look at the job that he chooses to focus on when he gives speeches, when he talks on social media, things that really energize the people who showed up if the primaries, voted for trump in large numbers, and delivered those surprise wins in states like pennsylvania and michigan. and, again, the policies of, you know, giving florida an exemption where he has an ally
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in governor rick scott, there's a lot of things that fit into that. >> lonny, last >> wow. i'm honored. >> you're our conservative. so what do you expect to see in year two of the trump administration? >> continued focus on policies the base will like. that's the only way you win a midterm, an activated base electorate. that's the only way republicans continue hold on to the house and senate in the fall. >> thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you both. >> thank you. and this weekend marks the one-year anniversary of the women's march. check out our special online feature about that by going to kqed.org. comedian w. kamau bell hosts "united shades of america" on cnn as he travels across the
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nation to meet with diverse communities. now he's teaming up with the communities. now he's teaming up with the oakland symphony toer of his favorite music. great to have you on the show again. >> thanks for having me. >> what was your reaction when they said we have this great idea, we'll do a whole series of concerts based on their play list. and hey, we want you to be the first one? >> hope i don't ruin it for everyone else. this is a series of things, and i hope my songs are good enough to stand that test. i hope michael morgan doesn't go, oh, you don't listen to good music wrchlt where is kaeperni? >> and quite a list you chose. >> that's just music. that's in the category of music
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i like. i've liked music and art across genres. i'm a comedian on a show on cnn. so for me, if a song moves you, it's a good song. >> and you have a wide range of interests as reflected in your comedy, you're often know as a sociopolitical comedia you were at indiana university on martin luther king jr. day, talking about his legacy. what you tell the students there? >> i get hired often on that day to be -- to talk about the legacy of dr. king, and i usually don't talk about that very much. i always talk about extending the conversation forward. his legacy is about what is going on in this country right now, how do we learn from history so that we can do bette. so the thing i think dr. king would want all of us to do is not focus on the memes and the quotes and things he said and take those things in and live them out. >> one of the points you made
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was -- and you said it's on white people to be proud of being white, so that they can defeat other evil whiteness. >> yeah, i and they quoted me in the paper. >> and now i'm quoting you. >> now it's on tv. >> to me, race is a social construct, know that. you wouldn't know what race is unless somebody told you. but racism is real and you can study and see the effects it. so before we deconstruct race, we have to deconstruct racism. but white people, many of them, most of them don't claim their race. they claim oh, i'm irish and german, so if we want to deconstruct race im, white people, who think white pride is a negative thing, need to figure out positive white pride so they can go after the people who are trumping evil things. >> before you talked at indiana,
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you asked president trump to please hold off on making any more statements until today so you didn't have to change your monday speech. >> it was 10:00 at night and he just called africa and haiti the s-hole. so i was like, i can't keep up with this. it was a joke, but are we aware of how much we're dealing with right now? are we aware how oppressed people are in? pay rent, take care of their families and live their lives. there's also this attack, an oppressed person tax that we're all paying double living in the world right now. >> what do you think has been the impact of the trump presidency on race relations? >> i think that america has always had a fraught history with the races. it's founded on a couple of, you know, genocide of native americans. african people being enslaved. every ethnic group that comes in
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has to start off on the bottom. if you're browner than most, you don't rise up as quickly. and we haven't confronted that. in south africa, there's the truth and reconciliation commission. we never confronted it. many people like to think it's the history of the past. i didn't own slaves. but no, all those economic factors that is contributed through slavery is still part of our >> and do you think those conversations are going on across the country? as you do your series "united shades of america," what is your biggest take away from those conversations as you meet various people? >> the biggest take away, if you don't talk about politics as a team sport, if you talk about how are you doing? what do you need in your life? we all want the same things, better schools, better access to health care, better jobs, take better care of our family. generally, people think that the
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prison system is not doing a good job of rehabilitating people. if we can all come around that stuff, we would have a much better and more progressive and liberal path forward. >> how do we do that? i'm just [ laughter ] i tell jokes about it, you listen to the jokes and laugh, and you come here and do a story >> you're putting the burden on me. >> yeah. i am taking the burden of i'm going to figure out how to connect with people. i'm going to travel on the road and meet with >> what was that meeting like when you met with the klan? >> it was frightening. it was really quite scary, and it took me a few -- it took me a while to shake it off. because even though i didn't end up -- black people meeting with the klan historically doesn't end well. so even though i lived and went home, i still had to shake it off. >> why were you frightened by, what they said?
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>> it's the klu klux klan. >> but what was it specifically? >> there's the creepiness of them being real-life boogiemen. we talk about horror films. as a black person in this country, there's a horror film around the corner. there's also the thing about what if they set this up to kill me? what if they don't want to be on tv and this is all a game and we're there for hours and it gets darker and the cross is burning, and then the historicalness -- i'm seeing this cross and i get to leave. but most people who stood in this moment and saw this cross did not get to leave. >> that must have been just an incredible experience for you, like you said. but you get to do something lighter tonight. >> yes. i will host the event. limited tickets available. but i get to sit on stage and enjoy my favorite songs. >> thank you. and his play list premieres tonight at 8:00 p.m. in oakland.
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