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i'm thuy vu. coming up,n thou of people convicted of marijuana related offenses insan francisco are cheering a decision by the district attorney to c criminal and we'll talk with a california activist who attended president trump's state of the union address. he represents undocumented black immigrants. and we'll hear from lieutenant governor gavin newsom why vote should back him as california's next governor. earlier today, house republicand rele memo that alleges the justice department and fbi abused their surveillance powers. several democrats on the committee, including congressman adam schiff, are accusing
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congressman devin nunes of manipulating the contents of the classified memo. president trump allowed the release despite objections from the justice department andfbi. this morning, he accused the two agencies of politicizing the investigative process. joining me now with more on this latest twist is congressman eric slawwell from the east way. what is your reaction to the release mo this >> it's disturbing that the republicans in the houseould w to protect the president. they're assertingcts not supported by the evidence to protect the presidentn this russian investigation. biey're doing it over the objection of the and in a first world democracy where neverbefore have we seen political leaders use police to attack our leaders. >> so from where y siton the house intelligence committee, what will you do at this point?
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>> the best way we can clean up theor dions that their memo has made is for the democratic memo to be released on monday. so we'll force a vote on monday when we return andhave a committee hearing. if our memo were released, y u would sen pages of details that lay out the true timeline a here, put into focus that this investigation occurred long before the steele dossier lande. it point out that fbi deputyirector andy mccabe, that his characterization in the gop memo is just flatly wrong and mischaracterized. and that the fisa application is mischaracterized. i think the a will walk away seeing new, unseen evidence from our but also the fbi's credibility will bolstered. >> you already tried to get that memo released last week. the republican leaders on the committee said no. what do you think will change that this time? >> now they have the public to answer to, and the public
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sentiment right now i believe is outrage. outrage that they would trample all over t rule of law, and that they're going to want to see, as i said,thhe evidence t corrects the record. >> president trump was asked today, what is his reaction to d this, whe try to fire deputy attorney general ro rosenstein? and he said, you figure that one out. what do you think that means? >> president trump has shown a willingness clear out ofwa his anyone who has been a part of this investigation. you thin individuals who no longer at doj or fbi from sally yates james yocomey, and now, of cour, and mccabe retiring this week or being forced out, he has an enemy's li, andhe, one by one, is removing them from this investigation. we must do all we in congress to protect bob mueller. there's legislation from nd republicans democrats to do that. and if this is not an alarm for
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to do that when we get back, i don't know what is. >> do you think he would fire rosenstein? it looks like he's set the circumstances to fire rosenstein. people may ask why does it matter if he fires deputy attorney general rosenstein? because he set the parameters of mueller's investigation. he approved the -- he's technically the person who would have to fire bob >> so let's just say hypothetically, rosenstein is fired, what would you do? you also sit on the house udiciarycommittee, which would take up impeachment for these proceedings if it were to >> i and with the supp of others, would move to the house judiciary committy to take up impeachment proceedings. i believe that would be clear obstruction justice and the house must act. >> is that an effort you would >> i would work with my colleagues and the leaders of the judiciary o committee and ranking member. having -- i'm the only democrat that serves on the intelligence
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committee and the judiciary committee. i had a real look into the evidence that exists here. a i believe th would be a clear case of obstruction. but i believe our hose leaders have already said that's a reda line he cross. the republicans this is a case where there was abuse of surveillance pow by the fbi and the justice department, thatge carter constitutional rights were violated in this case. isit possible that proper procedures and vettng procedures were not followed in this case? >> haven't seen that. the fbi iw and we should look at all of their investigations to make sure civil liberties are being protected. sure civil liberties are being protected. but what it looks hike he the president is trying to go after the fbi to taint their investigation so that the public sentiment or approval ofe fbi is reduced. so if more indictments come against the president or his team, the public reaction could not be as condemning as it probably li would be.
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one other point, thuy, by the republicans referring to the white house this classified memo, before it becamec, publ they essentially gave the white house pieces of evidence in the ru investigation that the white house and the president they not have otherwise seen.s thaimportant, because they're essentially allowing them now to tailor their testimony, the president or the aroundouse counsel, evidence that they know -- now >> well, there's so much more to discuss on this. but i can't let you go without asking you about the budget. ne deal is february 8, next thursday. democrats agreed to reopen the government after the shutdown last month wi eassurance from republicans there would be good-faith negotiations on immigration. has that happened? has been made? >> negotiations are under way. i think it's reckless for us to continue to comp two to three weeks at a time. it's not fair to the america people. we should be able to solve our
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immigration challenges, the challenges around also funding you know, health care centers in our community, and our but we shouldn't do this two to three weeks at a te. that's not fair to the american people. i've seen student councils in elementary schools budget out further than >> what would you need to see happen on daca, on immigration, in order tosupport a long-term budget bill? >> we can adess the dreamer issue by giving certainty to the nearly 700,000er dre who already signed up under daca. if there are other issues around border security or reforming immigration process, we should look at those. right now the president is proposing tat we reform and fix daca and the tradeoff ishat we end legal immigration that's exied, like family reunification our country for over 50 years. >> that's a non-starter for you? >> it's non-starter for me. >> uld you back another
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government shutdown if you can't reach compromise? >> i'm not going to propose a shutdoto, i'm going propose we solve the issues we were sent to take care . >> congressman, always great to have you on the program. >> my pleasure. n today, presitrump delivered first state of the union address. attending that was a young, undocumented immigration activist. joseph is the communications director for undocumented immigrants, a group that add slow kates for undocumented black immigrants. >> thank you for having me, thuy. attend was that like to the state of the union speech? >> it was a very bittersweet experience. this was the largest delegation of undocument ed at the state o the union. but we had to listen to the vitriol being sprd
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>> well, tell us a little bit what your personal story is, because i know the mission is to getheties of immigrants such as yourself. you came here at the age of 7. ho did you get re? >> because my parents wanted me access to opportunitie i otherwise wouldn't hav if i had remained in central america. it was one of those experieases he eldest child they knew i would be the closest one to access ititutions of higher learning, and they wanted me to get opportunities that they di. so as a result of that, they sent me to live wh my maternal grandmother in the united states. >> you're part of the advocacy group that serves undocumented black immigrants. how big is that population and how are you getting your message out? >> we have 619,000 undocumented black peopleepresented in the united states. as a result of that,oe seek
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send our message by making sure that our voicere amplifieamplif locally, statewide, and nationally. so webo go it by doing op-eds, interviews, videos that showcase thediversity for the immigrant community. something that we often don't talk about enough. comments thatve are made by the president and his administration about blank hole counies and he's referring to haiti and countries on thenefrican con, that's what it look for a lot of people to understand that immigration issue.lack >> what has life been like for you as an undocumented immigrani ing under the trump administration? >> chaotic would be an understatement. in that each day we definitty do now what's going to happen. a few weeks ago, we had the tonmp administraas well as leaders from both parties, give a press conference orhave a meeting in the midst of a press circus, and the spoke about the importance of being able to pass a clean dream act. momentslater, we heard rhetoric
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fey wanted to do so at the risk ofily reunification programs, and almost the elimination of diversity visas. so w don't knowhat to expect. we hear rhetoric that say clean dream act, but we hear attempts to use the 800,000 daca recipients against the remainder of the immigrant population. >> the latest proposal, he made it clearshat he willing to offer a 12-year path to citizenship acr recipients, but bare that with billions of dollars for a wall along the mexican border and tighter restrictions on legal immigration. what do you think of that? is there any part of that, that you could support in place of a clean >> it is a very problematic proposal that's being made, because for him to offer io8 mi people, there's 11.5 million undocumented people in e united statesof america. so to try to use 1.8 million or
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800,000 daca recipients against population r of the is creating an us versus them mentality, which you're tryin to label the undocumented youth as cominghere at no fault of their own, but crimina their parts and setting up families to be separated from onanother. becoming susceptible to elimination from being able to provide for their families and create a sustnable lifestyle. while the pathway to citizenship is a great aspect, we're going to be addressing these longer erm implications, which the remainder of the undocumented population is going to be less defense of themselves and that's someing i can't getbehind. >> there are a number of people, especially conservative republicans, by offeri a path c amnesty and feel that's wrong. they feel it's wrong to put dreamers ahead of the line. what do you h to say to snem >> first and foremost, there is
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no line fornt immiglike myself. if there was a line, it would have been something we would have gotten in the process of. as for somebody that has been here 15 years, daca is a merit based program. i have to submit $495 ev years to renew, i have to pay taxes. i asking the government permission in order to work in this country and pay taxes. that toe does not read as a handout. it's something that we worked very ha for. and not to mention undocumented people have contributed to the social, economic, and political fabric of this nation. but it's anything but a >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so thuy. it's been one month sce recreational marijuana became legal for adults in ifcalnia. now san francisco residents, we'll see this week their slate wiped clean.
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thousands of concrick shvi expunged going back to 1975 >> thank you >> what are you hoping to accomplish byma aucally erasing about 3,000 misdemeanor mariju convictions? >> there are three things. number one, we know that most of the w communitiee heavily impacted by the war on drugs and the war onmarijuana, where people of color, the african-american community, poor people, and tho people generally wi the -- would be hard pressed to hire an attorney and gorough the legal process o petition to have their convictions expunged or have a felony conviction reduced to a misdemeanor. we also know the impact of a criminal record and it often f government assistance, loans.
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on a felon case, you can't even vote. so we want to ensure that we right that wrong.nt we also to encourage other prosecutors the state to do the samething. so we're creating a blue print for this to occur a way that it's painless to the individual. and then finally, we want to send a national message, we're in a time where we have the national administration, the attorney general, you now, talking about marijuana being almost an existenal threat t our communities. wetill have marijuana as a scheduled it's on equal par with heroin, and that's obscene. if you talked to high school kids 30 years ago,l they would gh at this obscenity that has naput mariju at that level. when the law is not credible, it comes hypocrisy. >> some look at what you've done and say it was a crime back then. so if you committed a crime back then, it should stay on the
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record, regardless of changes to the law. >> that sort of ignores the fairness of what it is right. it shouldn't have been a crime back then, and secondly, how arbitrary would it be that if you were arrested f marijuana offense, december 31st of 2017, you were a criminal, but you engaged in the same 1nduct january of 2018, you're no longer a criminal. >> you talked about this whe you talked about racial discrepancies and the way marijuana laws have worked out with the enforcement. in 2011, african-americans made up 6% of san francisco's population. they accounted for half of the city's marijuanaed reloffenses. so with this new policy, what do you think will be the impact on that iscrepancy? what kinds of reform will it tcomplish in the long run? >> ink it's the beginning of
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redung the harmof decades old policy that's dcimated poor people, especially in african-american communities. there any studies that tell you that drug use in this couny is distribute equally among the racial groups. some will say that sometimes the whitemm ities, marijuana use is greater than in the african-american community. but when see who the people that were arrested, andvi ced, that went to jail and prison, it always seems to be people of color. and the african-american community has suffered thein mo this process. >> i wanted to ask you about immigration. federal immigrationwo authoriti ld allow agents to go to courthouses and make arrests. ey say they will only target convicted cri nals, gang members, and not take in family or friends or witnesses, for example, for deportation. what do you think of theti
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dire? >> it's very wroheaded, driven by phobic beliefs in the new administration. i think the reality is, courts ought to be a place where witnesses and victims can come in without being fearful they may be arrested because they're ere without documents or someone they know may be arrestedwithout being here not being legal. the ut they would argue courthouse is a safe place to make these arrests because of the metalet tors. >> here's the problem. we've seen a drop in the numbe of violent incidents in the chinese and latinoom nities. e now have victims of domestic violence that refuse to come to court because they are afraid that theymay be subject to deportation. so it doesn't matter what the federal government says, their
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credibility th the immigrant community is nonexistent. i have my own doubts, and the problem is thats this pople out of >> and another immigrationat re issue, i.c.e. has just served 77 bay area businesses notices of inspection, demanding employment verification. move, you think of that and is this the sign of a tougher crackdown to come? >> it was very interested the bay area gets selected for this. it seems to be somewhat vindicve, given th the bay area has seemed to be in lineh w politics that does not seem to be what the president wants. when law enforcement engages in ondictive cution, nothing good comes out of it. >> is there anything your office can do ounter this if a crackdown happens? >> clearly the federal government has jurisdiction.in there's nothat we can do.
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i'm not suggesting they shouldn't do the work. i just find it very odd that this region seems to be taking . >> thank you so much for joining us. >> my thank you as jerry brownerving out his final year as governor, there's a vigorous campaign to replace him. the early leader in terms of fund-raising and poll numbers, is gavin newsom. hiscaaign has raised nearly $20 million, but he's facing criticism from his rivals over issues such as his support for single payer coverage. scott shaffer sat down with gavin newsom earlier >> lieutenantgovernornewsom, thanks for coming in. >> great to be here. >> you are running to succeed jerry brown. it would hard to imagine two people more different than you two in terms of style, age, demeanor. so why are you the guy to repce him? >> i've known jerry my entire
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life. there's a lot of trutho that. stylistically, step up and step in. not as passive on certain issues. the knock on me is that i was the 12th member of the board of supervisors i was mor of san francisco. i tend to want to lead reforms, not wait for them to land on my desk. what is is an issue that you would be less passive in >> the issue of health care. in this country, 17.9% of gdp, conversation or pension conversation. can't have a conv relates to issues of small business growth, unless you're having health caresa convon. >> high speed rail, it is in trouble. it's limping .alo it is being built, but at the moment, it could be a trai to nowhere. at what point would you abandon it? because there may not be federal or private sector money? >> i don want to speculate.
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the key is the private secr money. also continue to advocate for more federal dollars. we're patching this together ane ing it going. you have 1600 folks working as we speak. this is under construction, and the redesign of the first phase provides preyou fi s this for t. this is not a boondoggle, unless we abandon the vision. because we couldn'tnd funding. that's my commitment, to find the dollars. >> wouldt you jee connecting the valleys and say that's all we can do? >> i have confidence we'll get mind. that will be a game changer up here. so the northern part of the state is best positioned to be well served, but i really feel a sense of responsibility to southern california that's been left wanting in that respect,
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because t gettinse tunnels through and above into the sane gabrie mountains remains an open questiono an opend for a lot of the elected officials that have been critical. brown shy to s no to democrats when it comes tospending. will you say >>? that was a word i used often as mayor of san francisco. >> what would you say no to? >> you haveoalance the budget. but at the same time, i want to recognize a fundamenfact that unless we deal with income and wealth dis social mobility, the state is going to chance on itself. 8 million people below the poverty line. 46% at or near the poverty lineh se are stubborn facts that nex address. >> sexual has rocked sacramento.
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when this sexual harassment began to happen with harvey weinstein and it all unfolded, what questions did youhave? >> it was very personal. my wife was the second person t come outimpacted directly by harvey. she had the courage to come rward and also to talk to me about what in ways shehe hadn't in past, which was jaw dropping. as it relating to sacramento, all those women that came forward deserve affirmation, s ce, and reforms. >> would you support penalties against w legislators are found guilty of harassment or sexual assault, andshould the public be paying money for these settlements? i thi the settleme have to bring to light. it's unfortunate we've these ch asking questions. >> whatou questions would ask? >> we are signing of ons
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settlements to women c come forward. taxpayer dollars shouldn't beth used for malfeasance and offense that is occurring by legislative leaders or members of staff. there has to be personal accountability that respect. >> one of the problems with the operations is the cash. what would you do about that? >> fye the last and a half, idea ofen promoting the a state bank, that's not going there e a lot of credit unions the are quietly accepting cannabis cash, and are hopeful that the federal government stays pat and doesn't necessarily interfere with that. but this is not unique torn calia. you've got red states and blue states with medicalri mana that have the same open-ended questions. y, and i k eventua hope in the near term, this will
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be addressed, the federal level will remove the status and this. >> you win, you'll take office in 2019, 2020 around the corner. can you say you will not run for president? >> that is not my aspiration.a califorill be well served by having a governor working full-me on the state's business. and quite substantively, the one redret i hear more often privately of governor brown, he had his eye off the ball and was doing a l of things, where he had a presidential lens and not a lens ocalifornia. what a contrast to what he's accomplished in the last seven years, versus being focused elsewhere in the previous seven years. we need a governor working full time. >>id i he you don't want to be president of the united states? >> with all due respect, ex-president sounds like a great job. >> only one way
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captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org robert: what happens when a o president goesr against the government he leads? president trump approves the release of a dputed republican memo, alleging the f.b.i. and juste partment abused their surveillance we discuss the fallout civil and political tonight on "washington week." presidt trump: i think it's a disgraro. rt: he ignores warnings from the f.b.i. and signs off the release of a republican memo he says shows bias against him in the russian probe. president trump: people should be ashamed of themselves. robert: democrats accuse the president of tryinto discredit robert mueller. >> this is not about the facts. this
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