♪ >> tonight on kqed "newsroom," a mayor's controversial warning about immigration raids is now under review by the u.s. justice department. also, self-driving vehicles get a big boost from california officials, but will there be speed bumps ahead. and a tall cold glass of w milk madh yellow tea. a new book contends it is stillery much a man's world in silicon valley and suggests how to change that. hello and welcome to "newsroom". i'm thuy vu. we begin with immigration. this week i.c.e. arrested undocumented immigrants inaids in california. protesters ralli outside the i.c.e. field office in san francisco. on saturday, oakland mayor

warned the public about a imminent i.c.e. operation in the bay area, saying she did it to protect residents. but a top i.c.e. official disagreed, criticizing the mayor for her, quote, reckless decision that helped suspects flee and put i.c.e. agents at risk. joining me t talk about this is kqed justice and immigration reporter judy small. and executive director of the immigrants rights g welcome to you both. let's begin by listen to go a clip of what he said. >> typically we find that a high percentage of them already have some kindalf crimi conviction or they've been removed from the united states before, or they have an outstanding final order to be removed from the united states. there is aer misnut there that we are just collecting up

all of these peoplehat have never had any kind of on encounter with us, which is really not the case. o so that's the agent talking about what kinpeople they're targeting. and based on what you ow, is c.e. focusing on people who pose an actual public safety risk, or that's not really the case? >> well, they do focus on that group. that's what theyizemph when they report on these kind of operations. but they are als picking people who have no criminal background but who have coment ct with i.c.e. or the immigration system. they have been ordered deported. or they may have returned to the united states once or twice or multiple times. and that's another big group owey're targeting which is different than it was under the latter years of the obama administration. >> so,or example, the chronicle had a story abo a family who has been here through the years. he has an old dui conviction.

his family is now at risk of being broken apart. are those thes stor that you're seeing playing out as well? >> yes. on over and over agai we're hearing a lot about it. we've covered some ourselves. it is very akheartbg. >> how are these affecting the ndocumented communities that you work with? >> as you can imagine, many families andld cn are in fear, living in a wld of terror when their world has been turned up sie-down. we know families are not taking childr to school or hospital visits because they're afraid i.c.e. might be there. and they have been informed i.c.e. has been picking up individuals at courts. so they have been aoiding their court appointments. even just a small traffic ticket. it's causing a lot of havoc. >> what would you say to those who say these are people who broke immration laws and therefore should not be in this country and what i.c.e. is doing

is justified? >> yeah. i think what we're seeing is a war on immigrsts and famil being separated that have built their homes here and their chiropractor are eitizens. are contributing to our economy. these are people that, you o wouldn't pose a threat on our country. and i know manyie famare being separated. like she mentioned, folks who he had a dui maybe 20 years ago. they did their time. that shouldn't be a reason why someone should be a threat because they have a dui. we know folks walking on the street and i.c.e. stops them and picks them up. should be asking why are our families being taken apart and what is thatng message g to be saying to our community and the u.s. in the long term? the ramifications to that, to those family values, what we ar causing to our children. >> the center of these raids has been aonontroversial deci by open mayor libby shaft who put

out an early warning that this operation would happen. and the justice department, at the request of the white house, said it will review the actions that mayor shafttook. julie, how much legal trouble could she be in and what kind of legal trouble could she be in? >> there is an understanding of confidentity between agencies. i.c.e.r is req to notify all inds of police departments, sheriffs, anybody who is in that domain. they have to notify them before thethese arrests. for her to come out and say this is happening, took it a step further and it did give people an opportuni, maybe some of those people who were dangerous, to flee. >> and that is in fact, what i.c.e. is saying, there are about 800 people still on the ey loose, and artially blame that on what the mayor did. is that fair, do you think? >> i hink therey be 800 people in the community, but i doubt they were trying to round themthall up in operation. that would be a huge operation.

i don't think that would hav been possible. but i think it feeds into their narrative to say, oh, there's still 800 people out there and it's libby shaft's fault. >> d and the mayor do the right thing in the community you? i mean, how are people viewing this? >> i think the community appreciates that notification. especially organizers that are holding the response networks, local and across northern california, to real allow the community to provide support is. many of these families have been torn apart. they require accompaniment, an legal assi. it adds another dimension of advocacy that is needed at this time to reallyring to light that the families are being separated. really smars matt are now being heightened as someone is a horrific criminal, we don't want to posehe narrative that they re promoteng.

>> butu said it set off some panic in the beginning. did that make sense to do that? >> well, i think there is some panic. but it is important to follow up with tons ofnformation and creating a safety net for the community so they know where to go forso ces and who is available to help. and i think she follows that upr in hers conference the next day. that's been really helpful because people wre able to connect with legal services, local organizations that are helping families, and the rad response is so people can call and get support as needed. >> mayor shaft's resistance does seem to mark an escalation in local resistance to president trump's immigrationpolicies, going beyond sanctuaryity protections. she took it proactive and took it a step further. w is this being viewed bay area wide, julie, as you talk to people about the raids, the undocumented immigration situation? >> i think a lot of peop

torn about it. because like for famil es to benefit from having that information, that warning in advance, the people -- you don't really to bear the brunt of this enforcement operation. but also people feel a little uncomfortable with the fact that she exposed law enforcement to maybe some additional risks.to when i spokeric bonner, the agency said they did, in fact, experience people cnfronting them in the streets. people were more resistant to being ar and they had people chastising the agents directly. >> and do ink that that was a direct result, though, of what mayor libby shaft did or it would happen naturally without her sounding the alarm? >> think would happen naturally but maybe it was heightened. maybe people felt heightened by that. >> thank you both. >> thank you for having me. you may have seen them in the streets of san francisco,

funny looking cars with laser sensors and hard rives. they are self-driving prototypes. they are looking less and less like the stuff of science fiction. for the first time california v is allowing them to be tested without a humanin the driver's seat to take control of thewheel. are the cars and the public ready for the driverless crs ahead? we talk to bernard soriano. hejoins me via skype. hello to you. >> hi. thanks for having me. >> well, the new rulewi al autonomous cars without hans inside takes effect april 2nd. why did they decide to do this? >> this is a natural progression of what we already have is in place. we have had autonomous vehicle testing regulations effecti ever since september 2014. and to date, we have 50 compaes that are approved for testing their autonomous vehicles on california's public roadways. but that testing needs to have a safety driver on board.

so this is a natural progression. it's the n ckstep. and now these regulations are in place to allow manufacturers to conduct testing if there ready without a human on board. and this is all around tryingo improve safety. because the statistics are that we as a country a lot of people lose their lives due to traffic crashes. and the vast majority of those are because of the human choice. now, with autonomous vehicles, you take the human out of the loop a the hope is that the number of crashes will be reduced. ut if there's no safety driver behind the wheel, how can the company take control of these cars if there's an accident or an emergency? >> well, i think you're referring to the concept of a remote operator. so for manufacturers that have is a vehicle that'set comly driverless and the vehicle encounters a can't handle, manufacturers will

have the ability to sense what's around the vehicle and remote operator would have a very rudimentary a capability to maneuver that vehicle, say, to the side of the road. >> but these autonomous vehicles have had problemo. for one instance, an uber zoomed through a red light on a busy san francisco street. how worried are you about the safety of these cars? are they ready? >> well, you know, safety has always been top priority for us. and that's our mandate, is to ens e the safeeration of these vehicles on our roadways. and so we've taken a lot of steps and deliberately developed these regulations to ensure the safe operation of these es vehi we've always been concerned with safety. and we're -- we feel really good about how these regulations have been crafted. and we feel like it's something that is needed to ensure the

safe rollout of thisgy techno >> and what about liability? what if you're in an accident and yet there's no driver in the other car for you to get insurance information from? >> right. so the regulations speak to the -- all of those issues that need to be addressed. just like they're addressed now with drivers. and so manufacturers woll have to up with a law enforcement interaction plan. basically they need to be able toork with law enforcement in where these vehicles are anticipated to be tested and to develop a plan on how, for le exainformation is going to be exchanged with law enrcement should therbe an issue. and all of those issues that law enfcement andirst responders need to be cognizt of. >> but if this takes effect april 2nd, there is not much of a plan to come up with a plan like that. are you atnfident that plan will be in place? >> well, what needs to happen is

that manufacturers a going to apply to us for a permit to be able to test their autonomo vehicles without a driver. and so n theyd to meet certain things that are outlined in those regulations. and then they need to submit that application to us, and the we need to work with the manufacturer and ensure that all of those items are met before we issue out a permit. so it's not on april 2nd that manufacturers are going to be able to test. they still need to receive a permit from us in order to conduct their test. >> mr. soriano, you have been following the development of all of when do you think these odd-looking prototypes will go from what they are now to mass produc vehicles on our road? 5 10 years? 20 years? >> well, that's a tough manufacturers all have their own timeline when they will be rolling out these but from where we sit, you know,

we know these vehicles are going to be on the roadways. and o job is toen some sure that e process is in place andrs manufactuwith k get their products on the roadway. >> that wasn't quite a full answer, i think i will take that for now. bernard soriano with the dmv. thank you very hach. >>you know for having me, thuy. sticking with high-tech. vying to create game-changing products and services. but according to a new book, it's also a place where gender in a equali the mistreatment of women run rampant. joing me is breaking up the boys club of silicoeyva emily chang. me.thank you for having >> how big a gender gap is there in the tech industry? >> women account for 25% of jobs across thecomputing industry. 7% of venture capital investors,

these a p theple who decide what they get to be the next ce ok. and women, like companies, get 2% of ventre capital funding. not only are they underrepreseed, they are not getting the money they need to start these potentially world-changing businesses. >> it wasn't always this way.ou talk about women who played a formative role in the computer industry, grace hopper, lovelace. tell us aboutthem. >> in the 1940s and 19 50s, this is what surprised me. women played vital roles. omthey were programmingters for the military. programming computers for nasa. and then in the 60s and 70s as the industry was exploding, they were desperate for new talent. so a software company hired to psychologists to develop a personality test identify good programmers. and what they decideed that good programmers, quote, don't like people. well, ifoyou look people who don't like people, you'll hire

far more men an women. that's what the research tells us. there is no research to support this ide that people who don't like people are better at this job or men are better a lt this than women. but the stereotype persists to this dawh >> that's companies you think keep on hiring people who fit that stereotype? >> so is tt,at te for example, was used for decades by ibm.anies as big as and that stereotype came to permeate not just the industry but computer labs and parents and families. and then it was repeated in popular culture. a lot of people told me, wow, this stereotype was created by tv and movies. in fact, wasn't. the tech industry created that stereotype. and it haspe pated this idea that a very narrow group of people a good at this when in fact, many people of all backgrounds make these products. billions of people are using them, men and women.

>> you also cite another example of power and balbi talking about the sex parties that happen in silicon valley. what happens at these gatherings? >> in silicon valley, work and personal lives are very intertwinedme intertwined. a lot of business happen the bar, the hotel lobby, sometimes even in the hot tub. i talk about an investorho has hot tub parties at his house. and these sex parties that you mentioned, the bay area has long had a tradition of sexual liberation. so there is a wide spectrum of social behavior that you ee. and in many ways these parties are a lot more about power they are about sex. it is a power dynamic that is completely lopsided. >> i guess some people may arguo the women arng to the parties to have a good time and what is wrong with that? >> i spoke to over three dozen people, and several who have come forward since i wrote the book, men an women. you know, the men describe a

situation where they'rech lenging social mores and traditional morality where the women feel like this is where powerful people are but they're ddamned if they and damned if they don't. if they do attend the parties, they're isrespected or discredited. but if they don't attend, they're shut out of the important social gatherings. and, you know, some of the women i spe to actually had -- felt they had to leave silicon valley in orderto, you know, just do business on a level playing field. and they decided to continue their businessesn new york. >> it's a bit ironic as you are saying all o this, people who pride themselves on disrupting things, that kind of environment is not really disruptivet all. some would argue it is ve the status quo. a lot of what has been happening. >> a tale as old as time. and i ink part of the problem -- sexism exists everywhere. part of the problem with in

silicon vley, this is a industry that prides itself on changing the world and being so f ogressive. and yetou just look at the numbers, the representation of women is just so horrifying. yes, there's sexism in hollywood, in washington. but i would argue that in silicon valley it matters more than everywhere. this is an industry that is changingerur lives day, controlling what we see, controlling what we read. >> how we live.me >> the g that our children are playi. but i am an optimist even after two yea writing this book. people who are changing the world, who solved all of these hard problems, they can change us too. if they can get us to mars, self-driving cars, and give us rides at the push of a button, they can hire more women and pay them fairly. >> elon musk has been very critical of your sbook. hed, for example, one of the

sex parties, he was thert e said no lurid behavior happened when he was there. he thought its was a company party. you said your account was salacious, misleading and you should be ashamed. how do you respond to that criticism? >> that particular party i never said that party was a sexarty but that there was behavior that was very disturbing and mirror some of the behavior we see in some of these other environments. and i spoke to men and women at that party who felt uncomfortable whobe desc drug use, cuddling in the middle of the flood one woman in particular who felt she was pressured into sexual activit and who would not have been there if such powerful people had not been there. and so i came into this as a journalist. i don't have an agenda. i couldn't make this stuff up. and i uncovered some things that i found very troubling. >> all right. the name of the book is brotopia. thank you so muc >> thank you for having me and

shining a light on these issues. i appreciate it. now to a business story of a different sort. a bay area entrepreneur created a line of environmentally friendly cleaning products. a 2012, he sold the company and embarked on new mission, to reduce the planet's carbon footprint. his new company is ripp in emeryville. a nondairy milk made from peas. that's right, peas. ripple foods co-founder adam lowry is in the studio. >> thanks for having is me, thuy. >> milk from peas. >> pea milk. peas ar high in protein. and the situation right now is most alternatives to dairy products are pretty bad dairy alternatives. they don't have any protein in them or have very little. most people agree they arethin and watery. but making milk out of peas we are able to make something high in protein and creamy and delicious. at the especially of the day,

that's the way to get people to eat healthier, more nutritus and mor sustainable foods. >> you were a chemical engineer by training. a climate scientistat one point. where did the inspiration of this company come from? >> a big part of the story is my co-founder, ph.d. biochemist, he is the real scientit between two of us. he created a way to get totally pure protein out of any plant source. when you do that, it is tasteless. many people don't know proteins have no flavo if you get pure protein you can make foods out of that that are ally delicious. they are foods that a lot more people will buy and enjoy. >> you were also inspired by the philosophy of tryi to cut down on the carbon footprint, right? >> yeah. >> tl us about that. >> i do have a background as a climate scientist. that was aong time o. it was the big part of my first

business meo create social and environmental impact. fortunately, that's become a much more mainstream idea now. food is even more personal and as even more impacts on our environment and on our health, of course, than cleanings. produ so that was my -- that's why i really wanted getnto is food. because it's very personal and it's very high impact. n d to do something about our broken food system. and we need to do it rough foods that are really delicious that people j. >> and does causality of carbon products. dairy and meat contribute. >> yeah. dais about a quarter of our food carbonoot prin food is 30% of our human carbon footprint. that means dairy is 8% of humanity's carbon foot print. almond milk, for example, takes a lot of water. and i know this was also the inspiration behind your method cleaning prod ts, your prio company. you started it with your college

buddy eric ryan. in the beginning you were actuallyre making dif method formulas in your bathtub. >> that is correct. sort of the most ironic place you can think of cleaning products company beiborn, which is the bachelor pad of five guys in their mid0s. >> probably not so clean bachelor pad. exactly

ilrobert:: c war in the white house and a possible trailed war comi. i'm robert costa. statue tensions, proposed tariffs and stadiumed gun talks. tonight on "washington week." as stream wther batters both coasts, a storm of controversy and conflicts are creating disturbs inside the whiteowouse, from struggles and investigations of president trump's family to trump's ongoing attacks aga general jeff sessions. the president finds himself isolated and angry. this week he took aim at the national rifle association and his own partyver guns. >> we didn't address it, mr. presiden>> ecause you're afraid of the n.r.a. robert:ut changed course the next day after meeting with the n.r.a. he surprised many