♪ >> tonight on kqed "newsroom," a mayor'sal controvers warning about immigration raids is now under review by the u.s. junice departme also, self-driving vehicles get a big boost from california officials, but will tre be speed bumps ahead. and a tall cold glass of milk made with yellow tea. a new bok contends it is still very much a man's world in silicon wlley and suggests to change that. hello andelcome to "newsroom". i'm thuy vu. we begin with immigration. this week i.c.e. arrested undocumented immigrants in raids in california. the sters rallied outsi i.c.e. field office in san

francisco. on saturday, oakland mayor warned the public aboutmm an inent i.c.e. operation in the ay area, saying she did it to protect residents. but a top i.c.e. officials reed, criticizing the mayor for her, quote, reckless decision t hatped suspects flee and put i.c.e. agents at risk. joining me to talkbout this is kqed justice and immigration reporter judy small. and executive director of the immigrants rights group. welcome to you both. let's begin by listen to go a clip of what he said. >> typically we find that a high percentage of them already have so kind of criminal conviction removed from the united states before, or they have an outstanding final order to be removed from the united states. there is a misnomer out there

that we are just collecting up all of these people thatnave er had any kind of on encounter with us, which is really not the case. >> so that's the agent talking about what kinds of people they're targeting. and based on what you know, is .c.e. focusing on people who pose antual public safety risk, or that's not really the case? >> well, they do focus on that group. that's what they wemphasize. n they report on these kind of operations. but they are also pi people who have no criminal e.ckground but who have come in contact with i.cor the immigration system. they have been ordered deported. or they may have returned to the united states once or twice or multiple times. and that's anoth g bigup they're targeting which is different than how it was under the latter yearsf the obama administration. >> so,mp for exe, the chronicle had a sry about a family who has been here through the years.

he has an old duiio convi his family is now at risk of being broken apart. are those the stories that you're seeing playing out as ywell? >> . on over and over again. we're hearing a lot aboutit. we've covered some ourselves. it is very heartbreaking. >> how are these affecting the o undocumentedunities that you work with? >> as you can imagine, many families and children are in fear, living in a world of terror when their world has been turned up side-down. we knowamilies are not taking children to school or hospital visit because they're afraid i.c.e. might be there. and they have been informed thab i.c.e. hn picking up individuals at courts. so they have been avoiding their court appointments. even just a small traffic ticket. it's causing a lot of havoc. >> what would you say to those who say these a people who broke immigration laws and therefore should not be in this

ry and what i.c.e. is doing is justified? >> yeah. i think what we're seeing is a war on immigrants andi families separated that have built their homes here and their hiropractor are citizens. they arentributing to our economy. these are people that, you wouldn't pose a threat on our country. and i know many families are being separated. like she mentioned, folks who have had a dui maybe 20 years ago. they didtiheir . that shouldn't be a reason why someone should be a threat because they have a dui. we know folks walking on the street and i.c.e. stops them and picks them up. we should bein awhy are our families being taken apart and what is that message going to be saying to our community and the u.s. i long term? the ramifications to that, to those family values, what we are causing to our children. >> the center of these raids has been a controversialy decision open mayor libby shaft who putn

out early warning that this operation would happen. and the justice department, the request of the white house, said it will review the actions that mayor shaft took. julie, how much legal trouble could she be in and what kind of legal troubleld she be in? >> there is an understandi of confidentity between agencies. i.c.e. is required to notify all kinds of police departments,s, sherinybody who is in that domain. they have to notify them before they do these arrests. for her to come out and say this is happening, took it a step further and it did give people an opportunity, maybe some of those people who were dagerous, to flee. >> and that is in fact, what i.c.e. issaying, there are about 800 people still on the loo , and they partially bla that on what the mayor did. is that fair, do you think? >> i think there may be800 people in the community, but i doubt they were trying to round them all up in this operation.

that would be a hugeat opn. i don't think that would have been possible. but i think it feedsntotheir narrative to say, oh, there's still 800 people out there and it's libby shaft's fault. >> and did the mayor do the right tng in theommunity you? i mean, how are people viewing this? >>i think the community notificatio that especially organizers that aree holding esponse networks, local and across northern california, to really allow the community to provide support is. many of these families have been torn apart. they require coaniment, legal assistance. it adds another dimension of advocacy that is needed at this time to really bring to light that the families are being separated. really smallow matters are being heightened as someone is f ho criminal, we don't want to pose the narrative that they

are promoteng. >> but you said it set off some panic in thebeginning. did that make sense to do that? >> wel t i thinkre is some panic. but it is important to follow up with tons of information and creating a safety net for the community so they know where to go for resources andho is available to help. and i think she follows that up in he c pressference the next day. that's been really helpful because people were able to connect with legal services, local organations that are helping families, and the rapid response is so people can call and getupport as needed. >> mayor shaft's resistance does seem to mark an escalati in ocal resistance to president trump's immigration policies, going beyond sanctuary city protections. she took it proactive and took it a step further. how is this being viewed bay area wide, julie, as you talk to people about the raids, the

undocumented immigration situation? >> i think a lot of people feel tornabout it. because like for families tone t from having that information, that warning in advance, the people --'t you d really to bear the brunt of this enforcement operation. but also people feel a little uncomfortable with the fact that she exposed law enforcement to maybe some additional risks. when i spoke to eric bonner, the agency said ty did, in fact, experience people them in the streets. people were more resistant to being arrested.ad and theyeople chastising the agents directly. >> and do you think that that was a direct result, though, of what mayor libby shaft did or it would happen naturally without herounding the alarm? >> i think it would happen naturally but maybe it wa heightened. maybe people felt heightened by that. >> thank you both. >> thank you for having me. youay have seen the in

the streets of san francisco, funny loong cars with laser sensors and hard drives. they are self-driving prototypes. they are looking less and less like the stuff of science fiction. for the first time california dmv is allowing them to be tested without a human in the driver's seat to take control of the he. are the cars and the public ready for the driverless cars ahead? we talk to bernard soriano. he joins me via skype. hello to you. hi. thanks for having me. >> well, the new rule allowing autonomous cars without humans inside takes effect april 2nd. why did tey decide to do this? >> this is a natural progression of what we already have is in a . we have had autonomous vehicle testing regulations fective ever since september 2014. and to date, we have 50 companies that are aproved for testing their autonomous vehicles on california's public roadways. but that testin needs to have a

safety driver on board. so this is aatural progression. it's the neck step. and now these regulations a in place to allow manufacturers to conduct testing if they're itady ut a human on board. and this is all around trying to improve safety. because the statistics are that we as country a lot of people lose their lives due to traffic crashes. and the vast majority of those are because of the human choice. now, with autonomo vehicles, you take the human out of the loop and the hope is that the number of crashes will be reduced. >> but if there's no safety driver behind the wheel, how can the company take control of these cars if there's an accident or an emergency? >> well, i think you're referring to theemoncept of a e operator. so for manufacturers that have is a vehicle that's completely driverless and the vehicle encounters a situation that ,

can't handnufacturers will have the ability to sense what's around the vehicle and remote operator would have a very rudimentary aapability to maneuver that vehicle, say, to the side of the road. >> butthese autonomous vehicles have had problems too. for one instance, an uber zoomed through a red light on a busy san francisco streht. worried are you about the safety of these cars? are they ready? >> well, you know, safety has always been top priority for us. and that's our mandate, is to ensure the safe operation of these vehicles on our roadways. and so we've taken a lot of steps and deliberately developed theserelations to ensure the safe operation of these vehicles. ve always been concerned with safety. and we're -- we feel really good about how theses regulatihave been crafted. and we feel like it's something

that is needed tore enhe safe rollout of this technology. >> and what about liability? what if you'r in an accident and yet there's no driver in the other car for you to get insurance information from? >> right. so the rgulations speak to the -- all of those practical issues that need to be d. addres just like they're addressed now with drivers. and so manufacturers will have to come up with a law enforcement interaction plan. basically they need to be able to work with law enforcement in where these vehicles are anticipated to be tested and to develop a plan on how, for example, information is going to be exchanged with law enforcement should there be an issue. and all of thoset issues tw ondersement and first re need to be cognizant of. >> but if this takil effect apnd, there is not much of a plan to come up with a plan like that. are you confident at that pl

will be in place? >> well, what needs to happen is that manufacturers are going to apply to us for a permit to be able to test their cltonomous ve without a driver. and so they need to meet certain things that are outlined in those regulations. to submit ey need that application to us, and then we need to work with the anufacturer and ensurehat all of those items are met before we issue out a permit. so it's not on april 2nd that manufacturers are going to be able to test. they still need to receive ape it from us in order to conduct their test. >> mr. soriano, you have been following the development of all of this. when do you think these d-looking prototypes will go from what they are now to mass produced vehicles on ourroad? 5 years?y 10 rs? 20 years? >> well, that's a tough question. manufacturers all have their own timeline when they will be rolling out these vehicles. but,rom where we sit, you kn

we know these vehicles are going to be on the roadways. and our job is toen some sure that the process i in place and manufacturers with k get their roadway. on the >> that wasn't quite a full answer, i think i will take that for now. bernard soriano with the dmv. thank you very much. >> that you know for having me,u sticking with high-tech. vying to create game-changing products and services. but accding to a new book, it's also a place where gender inquality and the mistreatment of women run rampant. joining me is breaking up the boys club of silicon valley, emily yhang. >> tha for having me. >> how big a gender gap isinthee he tech industry? >> women account for 25% of jobs across the computing industry.

7% of venture capital investors, these are the people who decide what they get to be the next facebook. d women, like companies, get 2% of venture capital funding. n only are they underrepresented, they are not getting the money they need to start these pentially world-changing businesses. b> it wasn't always this way. you talkt women who played a formative role in t mputer industry, grace hopper, lovelace. tell uabout em. >> in the 1940s and 19 50s, this is what surprised me. women playedital roles. they were programming computers for the military. programmin.computers for na and then in the 60s and 70s as the industry was exploding, they were desperate for new talent. so a software company hired to psychologists to develop a personality testy to ident good programmers. and what they decideed that gooo ammers, quote, don't like people. well, if you look for people who

don't like people,ou'll hire far more men than women. that's what the research tells us. there is no resear to support this idea that people who don't like peoplere bettet this job or men are better a lt this than women. but the stereotype persists to this day. >>mphat's why cies you think keep on hiring people who fit that stereotype? >> so is that test, for example, was used for decades by a compani big as ibm. and that stereotype came tome pe not just the industry but computer labs and parents and families. and then it was repeated in popular culture. a lot of people told , wow, this stereotype was created by tv and movies. inact, it wasn't. the tech industry created that stereotype. and it has perpetuated this idea that aroery n group of people are good at this when in fact, many people of all backgrounds make these pro cts. billio people are using

them, men and women. >> you also cite another example of power and balbi talking about the sex parties that happen in silicon valley. what happens at these gatherings? >> in silicon valley, work and personal lives are very intertwdmen intertwined. a lot of business happens at the bar, the hotel lobby, sometimes even in the hot tub. i talk abou an investor who has hot tub parties at his housd hese sex parties that you mentioned, the bay area has long had a tradition of sexual liberation. so there is a wide spectrum of social behavior that you see. a many ways these parties are a lot more about power than they are about sex. it is a power dynamic that is completely lopsided. >> i guess some peopl may argue the women are coming to theav parties to a good time and what is wrong with that? >> i spoke to over three dozen ople, and several who have come forward since i wrote the

book, men and yomen. know, the men describe a situation where they're challenging social mores and traditional morality, where the women feel like this is whereow ful people are but they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. doif they attend the parties, they're disrespected or discredited. but if they don't attend, they're shut out of the important social gatherings. and, you know, some of the women i spoke to actually had -- felt they had to leave silicon valley in order to, you know, just do business on a level playingfi d. and they decided to continue their businesses in new york. >> it's a bit ironic as you are saying all of this, people who pride theelves on disrupti things, that kind of environment is not really disruptive at l. some would argue it is very much quo.status a lot of what has been happening. >> a tale as old as time. and i think part of the problem -- sexism exists everywhere. part of the problem with in

silicon valley, this is an dustry that prides itself on changing the world and being so progressive. and yetju if you look at the numbers, the representation of women is justo horrifying. yes, there's sexism in hollywood, inn. washing but i would argue that in silicon valley it matters more than everywtre. s is an industry that is changing our lives every day, controlling what we see, controlling what we read. >> how we live. >> the games thatur children are playing. but i am an optimist even after o years of writing th book. people who are changing the world, who solved all of these hard problems, they can change us toif they can get us to mars, self-driving cars, and give us rides at the push of a button, they cahire more wom and pay them fairly. >> elon musk has been very critical of your book.

he said, for ex, one of the sex parties, he was there. but he said no lurid behavior happ he thought its was a company party. you said your account was salaciou misleading and you should be ashamed. how do you respond to that criticism? >> that particular party i never said that party was a sex partyr but that twas behavior that was very disturbing and mirror some of the behavior we see in some of these other environments. and i spoke to men a women at that party who felt ccomfortable who described drug use,dling in the middle of the floor. and one woman in particular who felt she was pressured into sexual activity and who would not have beenfhere such powerful people had not been there. and so i came into this as a journalist a i don't ha agenda. i couldn't make this stuff up. and i uncovered some things that i found very troubling. >> all right. the na of the book is

brotopia. thank you so hmuch. >>k you for having me and shining a light on these issues. i appreciate now to a business story of a different sort. a brea entrepreneur created a line of environmentally friendly cleaning products. in 2012, he sold the company and embarked on a new mission, to reduce the planet's carbon footprint. his new company is ripple in emeryville. a nondairy milk made from peas. that's right, peas. ripple foodsfounder adam wry is in the studio. >> thanks for having is me, thuy. >> milk from peas. >> pea milk. peas are high in protein. and the situation right now is most alternatives to dairy products are pretty bad dairy alternatives. they don't have any protein in them or haveit very e. most people agree they are thin and watery. but making milk o of peas we are able to make something high in protein and cr my and

delicious. at the especially of the day, that's the way to get people to eat healthier, more nutritious aid more suble foods. >> you were a chemical engineer by training. a climate scientist at one point. where did thepi iation of this company come from? >> a big part of the story is my co-founder, ph.d. biochemist, he s. the real scientist between the two of he created a way to get totally pure protein out of any plant source. when you do that, it is tasteless. many people don't know proteins have no flavor. if you get pure protein you can make food out of that that are really delicious. ndey are foods that a lot more people will buy enjoy. >> you were also inspired by the philosophy of trying to cut do on the carbon footprint, right? >> yeah. >> tell us about tht. >> do have a background as a climate scientist. that was a long time ago. it was the big part of my first

business method to create social and environmental impact. fortunately, that's become a much more mainstream idea now. food iven more personal and has even more impacts on our environment and on our health, of course, than cleaning products. so that was my -- that's why i really wanted to get into i food. because it's very personal and it's very high impact. we need to do something about our broken food system. and we need to do it through foods that are really delicious that people enjoy. >> and does causaty of carbon products. dairy and meat contribute. >> yeah. dairy is abo quarter of our food carbon foot food is 30% of our human carbon footprin that means dairy is 8% of humanity's carbon foot print. almond milk, for example, takes a lot of water. >> and i know this was also the inspirati behind your method cleaning products, your prior company.

you started it with your college buddy eric ryan. in the beginning you were actually maki different method formulas in your bathtub. >> that is coect. sort of the most ironic place you can think of cleaning products compa being born, which is the bachelor pad of five guys in their mid 20s. >> probably not so clean bachelor pad. >> exactly

robert:: civil war in the white house and a possible trailed war coming. i'm robert costa. statue tensions, proposed tariffs and stadied gun talks. tonight on "washington week." as stream weather batters both coasts, a storm of controversy and conflicts are creating disturbs inside the white house, from power struggles and dent tigations of pre trump's family to trump's ongoing attacks against attorney general jeff sessions. the president finds himself isolated and angry. this week he took aim at the national rifle association and his own party over guns. >> we didn't address i mr. president. >> because you're afraid of the n.r.a. robert: but changed course the next day after meeting with the n.r.a. he surpris many