captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: move or a risky one? how president trump's decision to meet with north koreanr kim jong-un changes the u.s.' approach to nuclear negotiations. then, on the fire line. changes at the top of the forest service, after our nour investigation into a culture of sexual misconduct and retaliation at the agency. al ahead, we sit down with "a wrinkle in time" director ava duveay to talk her new film and being the first african american women to lead a movie of this scale. >> it's an indictmenof an industry that's ignored incredible black women, brown women, all kinds of women of color, filmmakers, for decades,

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>> woodruff: surprise, praise, ticism. the rang night's announcement that president trump and north korean dictator kim jong-un may meet face to face. hari sreenivasan begins our coverage. >> sreenivasan: it was a stunning announcement, made mort so by the circces: in the white house driveway, by south korea's viseting national rity adviser. >> kim pledged that north korea will refrain from anr nuclear or msile tests. umd he expressed his eagerness to meet president as soon as possible. >> sreenivasan: south korean officials had met with kim jong-un on monday, and then briefed president trump thursday afrnoon. >> president trump appreciated the briefing and s would meet kim jong-un by may to achie permanent denuclearization. >> sreenivasan: if that does happen, it would mark the first

time any sitting american president has met face-to-face with a nor korean leader. mr. trump weighed in on twitter last night, saying, "great progress being made, but sanctions will remain until an agreement is reached." today, during a visit to djibouti, u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson said the president's decision was "not a surprise." >> president trump has said for some time that he was open to talks and he would willingly meet with kim jong-un when conditions were right, when the time was right. and i think, in the president's judgment, that time has arrived now. >> sreenivasan: tillerson argued it's kim jong-un who has changed. >> what changed was his sture, in a fairly dramatic way. that, in all honesty, was a little of a surprise to us as well. >> sreenivasan: a top north korean diplomat at the united nations told the "washington po" that kim's invitation resulted from a "broad-minded and resolute decision" to achieve peace. the sudden turn of events came

after the two leaders had traded insults and threats for moth a year. this was president trump addressing the u.n. general assembly last september: >> the united states has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> sreenivasan: the north korean leader fired back, through a news reader on state-run tv. >> ( translated ): "i will surely and definitely tame the ntally deranged u.s. dotard with fire." >> sreenivasan: the north also launched nearly two dozen missiles last year, including intercontinental weapons that it said are capable of reaching the u.s. mainland. president trump responded with his "maximum pressure" campaign of s new sanctions and stepped-up military exercises. today, vice president pence said

in a statement, "president trump's strategyolate the kim regime is working. the north koreans are coming to the table despite the united states making zero concessions." but this afternoon, white house press secretary sarah sanders tsuggested the talks are definite yet. >> we are not going to have this meeting take place until we see concrete actions that match the words and the rhetoric of north korea. re sreenivasan: meanwhile in the on, reaction was cautiously optimistic. south korean president moon jae-in spoke in pyeongch >> ( translated ): president trump promised to meet north korean leader kim jong-un by zamay. denucleaon and peace on the korean peninsula are ing to be realized. >> sreenivasan: that hope was echoed by china's foreign ministry. >> ( translated ): we must eace and seize opportunity. >> sreenivasan: but there's also skepticism, based on a long history of failure. the u.s. and north korea signed

the so-called "agreed framework" in 1994. it eventually collapsed, wh both sides blaming each other for not living up to and, starting in 2003, the u.s. took part in a series of six- party talks after north korea withdrew from the nuclear non- proliferion treaty. they ultimately collapsed when the north expelledar weapons inspectors. for the pbs newshour, i'm hari sreen. >> woodruff: and we will have a full examination of thent pol trump-kim meeting, after the news summary. in the day's other news, a renner jobs report showed that employers hired mo workers last month than any time since july of 2016. the u.s. labor department reports a net gain of 313,000. jobs in februa the unemployment rate held at 4.1%, as thousands more people d looking for work, but wage growth slowed a bit from january's pace, possiblyasing inflation concerns. the jobs report went down well on wall street.

gee dow jones industrial ave gained 440 points to close at 25,335. the nasdaq rose 132 points, and the p 500 added 47. for the week, the dow and the s&p gained more than 3%. the nasdaq rose 4%. president trump's newly announced tariffs on steel and saluminum drew sharp rebu around the world today. the european union demded to be told if it will be exempt. and in beijing, the chinese commerce ministry slammed the move, and vowed to protect china's interests. >> ( translated ): we think it's perfect trade protectionism in e name of national security. it is an infringement to the rules of the world trade organization, and will definitely cause serious shocks to the normal order of international trade. >> woodruff: severublican senators also criticized the tariffs and called for hearings.

in syria, the red cross says that 13 ucks managed to get into rebel-held suburbs of damascus today, despite shelling and air strikes. amateur video showed them returning to eastern ghouta to fini initial attempt earlier this week. the trucks carried in food for some 12,000 people. turkish president tayyip erdogao is claiming a advance against kurdish fighters in northern syria. turkey says the kurds are terrorists. erdogan claimed today that turkish troops have encircled afrin, and are closing in on the kurds. video showed militiaers allied with the turks, driving inside the afrin district. ara, erdogan warned agai the offensive won't stop there. >> ( translated ): right now, the target is afrin. itentry into theis imminent. tomorrow, we will be in manbij. the next day, with god's help, we wileed in clearing the east of euphrates from the terrorists all the way to iraqi border. >> woodruff: if they do drive

east, turkish forces could come into conflict with u.s. troops that are deployed in the area. back in this country, florida governor rick scott signed a major school safety bill in onse to last month's mass shooting in parkland. the new law raises the legal age to purchase rifles, creates a program to arm some teachers, and includles in a waiting period for buying guns. the republican governor said that it strikes a bala >> i know the debate on all of these issues wl continue, and at's healthy in our democracy. people are passionate in their beliefs, and they should be. but we should not insu or disparage each other. we should work together to make our schools safe for our kids. sa woodruff: the national rifle associatio tonight that is suing.

former trump campaign aide rym nunberg appeared before a federal grand juoday in the special counsel's russia investigation. he had initially said that he would not testify. this mor the federal courthouse in washington, with his lawyer. he stayed into the afternoon. and, an executive once reviled for hiking the price of an aids drug by 5,000% now faces seven years in prison. martin shkreli was sentenced today in new york, in an unrelated case. he had been found guilty of defrauding hedge fund investors. shkreli cried in court and said that he was sorry. l to come on the newshou changes at the u.s. forest service after claims of sexual misconduct. mark shields and kathleen parker weigh in on the proposed meeting between kim jong-un and president trump. the renownirector who brought us "selma," and now, "a wrinkle in time plus, much more.

>> woodruff: we return to our top story, president trump's surprise acceptance of the offer from north korea's leader, kim jong-un, to meet. we examit's at stake with michael pillsbury. he has been advising the trump adminion on korea. he is also a senior fellow at the hudson institute where he directs the cent for chinese strategy. and, sung-yoon lee is an nsistant professor of kor studies at tufts university. and we welcome both of you to thank you very much. michael pillsbury, to you first, should president trump have agreed to this meeting? >> yes, absolutely. i think the issue,hough,s whether there should be conditions attached that the north koreans have to fulfill before the trip happens. as you know, the president was very clear that the date and the place are yet to be negotiated. so his agreement to the meeting is sject to quite few other edecisions being made. but, overall,his is really a chance for him to become a great

president in foreign policy. i wouldn't rule out the nobel peace prize and all kinds of breaktoughs, but we're in the very first phase of this today. >> woodruff: sung-yoon leld shhe president have done this? >> well, how to ascertain, how to understand kim jong un's sund dramatic outreach as of new years day, most likely he didn't wake up on new year's' days and have an epiphy and be a nice guy. more than likely, kim jong un feels the pinch from meaningful sanctions enforcement built up over the past year, but more likely than that, this is all premed dated, preplann certainly not unprecedented. kim is taking a page out of his daddy's playbook from the year 2000. >> true. hat year, kim jong un held hoe first summit with the south korean president we found

paid kim jong un $500 million for the privilege of making the pilgrimage and after softening up south korea, he turned to the united states and send, unprecedented, a special envoy u to t. president. so the highest ranking military man next to kim visited washington iy october conveying the message from president kim his bossnd president clinton was amenable and sent his secretary of state madeine albright, and there she was three weeks later hosting kim jong un. so don be prized if kim jong un sends his first sister who charmed people, melted hearts and minds when she showed up and flashed a few smiles in the south. >> woodruff: sounds as if, michael pillsbury, professor lee, that this could be a trap, the beginning of something that

won't lead anywheres. >> htealing my lines. i was going to tell you the story of 2000 and then decisio president clinton made that he would not accept thei inviton and would send madeleine albro advise him not who make the trip because the chancr l progress didn't exist. he's pointing this out as it affects the trump te as to what they want to do next, they want conditions before they go. >> woodruff: what should the conditions be? we heard the press secretary sarah sanders certain actions have to be taken if the meeting is to take place. >> the trump whitespousehouse noled out the conditions yet. they've impld at least what the south koreans brought from their meetings have to be implemented. so there's aertain amount of uncertainty, which is very common in dihomesy, as you knowc about y what north korea has to do. it's not an unc promise that i'll meet you

somewhere in the world and we'll ha dinner. it's more than that, and both sides now are going to have to have a secret channel to discs at exactly are these conditions. >> woodruff: well, we don't know what those conditions are, but, professor lee, if those conditions include, for example, certainly no nuclear testing, no belligerent moves. is north korea prepared to do that? how far do you think north korea is prepared to go to have this meeting take place? >> well, you see, north korea has conditioned the world to really lower the bar when it comes to engaging north korea. what kim conn vade to president trump through the south korean envoys is that now he is amenable toalking about denuclearization and that he will not conduct any missile or nuclearan tests in the time. those activities, of course, we know are prohibited by more than ten u.n. securitcouncil solutions. so the mere utterance of

abstention from illicit activities is no concession at all. fortunately, we have the cliffs notes, pre-conditions for suspending and terminating sanction which are codified in sanctions legislation that was signed into law by president obama two years ago,ti ss 401, 402. they explicitly state the pre-nditions which are north korea has to make a meaningful step towards denuclearization, stop censoring the north korean people, release foreign detainees, abide by the international -- woodruff: but -- as recipient nation -- >> woodruff: if i may sphwrupt -- interrupt just november this along because we only have a few conditions. >> those are tditions -- those aren't the conditions the trump white house is talking about. he's talking about something very different. >> woouff: to get to something fundamental, does anybody in the white house

belim jong un is actually prepared to dismantle his nuclear program? >> it depends on how you define dismantle. the trump white house has very serious talent who have been through through the history of the mistakes, deception, erravs. theya vision, as i understand it, which will be worked out. one of the issues is where will the meetintake place? should it be in switzerland where the l north koreder can see where he went to school? >> woodruff: does that matter? if it's beijing. i happen to support beijing because i believe china is our partner in this. it's quite important the trump white house chinese release two different versions w whatt happened in the phone call between president xi jinping and president trump. the chinese view is they are irreplaceable and are part of this. i get the impression they wold be happy to host the summit in beijing and help us with implementa the other idea is to go to the

d.m.z. in the big long buierldig so that's one of maybe five or six major decisions to be worked out. >> woodruff: a lot to be worked out. >> but president trump has started. that's the goo. e, woodruff: professor sung-yoon o you believe the north is prepared to go ahead with denleazation, to dismantle its nuclear program? >> in the history of denuclearization, only four nations who possessed nuclear weapons bargained them away and, in each of those instances, following a regime change, a new leader. the former soviet republic, kazakhstanened ukraine and belarus in the early '90s bargained them away and so did south africa when it ended its o presentation. >> no, south africa gave them away, th's closer to the north korean model. >> due to sanctions and lot of interpretational press we have not seen the kind of meaningful sanctions enforcement

that obama level against iran. millions of dollars were leviedr againsndly nations, the biggest bank in france. nothing has been tried againsts. china's ba >> woodruff: it's difficult the example north korea sees is it doesn't necessarily pay to dismantle a nuclear program. much more to talk about here. we are -- >> one sentence of good news. she and trump agreed today t sanctions remain in place up to the meeting. so there's no purchase of this meeting. >> woodruff: china sanctions and other sancon remains place? >> yes. >> woodruff: much more to talk about. we will be coming back to this a lot between now andhe time this meeting may or may not take place. michael pisbury here, professor sung-yoon lee. thank you ve much.

>> woodruff: this week, the chief of the u.s. forest service stepped down, following a newshour investigation into allegations of a culture of al misconduct and retaliation within that agency, .s well as questions about the chief's own behavi william brangham is here n for more on what this means for the rvice going forward. william, welcome. so tony took is his name, the chief of the forest service. he's out. inat more can you tell us about what's b this? >> last fall tony took was nominated to head the.s. forest service. at that time aia senior off of the forest service ou need to be aware of some of teeny took's behavior. he had had a consensual extra marital affair with a subordinate when he worked in florida. created a special position for the woman, promoted her through the ranks. according to the letter, when the affair was discovered by the

upung woman'svisor, took was told stop communicating with her but apparently he d not. a direct quote, mr. took not only contacted the female employee, he told her not to say anything more about their sexual relationship or her career "would go down." that's a pretty clear allegati of sexual misconduct and intimidation on his part. we're spoke on the letter writer and this woman's supervisor and asked the forest service during the course of reporting. they acknowledged an investigation was going on into his past, then ourstories ran online and on the broadcast and this week tony tooke stepped down. >> woodruff: in addition, there were other new week.pments this >> brangham: we have a new interim rim chief at theorest service, vicky christia.nson she sent out an email tovery forest service employee that said, in part, we've had to tas some hard truths aut

allegations and retaliation in our agency. i know we are up to the task. additionally we got word today that congress wants to start looking into this. congresswoman jackie spear of california and montana senator steve dane said they want to hold hearings to look into this broader culture of sexual harassment within the forest service. >> woodruff: finally, william, you and your team have been hearing from within side the forest service community. >> we've set up a tip line that appewes on oursite and we've gotten dozens and dozens and dozens of e-mails from people, former and current employees. many echo the complaints voiced in our stories, which was a culture of harassment and those who speak up about the harassment get battered down for it. we heard fromo some men wh also said we suffer from harassment as well. we also hed from other people who said, i don't recognize what you reported. that's not the forest service we experienced. i would like to read you an cerpt from a letter from one

woman who has been in the forest service 25 years, worke in t midwest, still in the forest service, and her letter echoed a feelings of a lot of letters we heard. >> quote, your letter was harder to read and watching the footage sexual harassment is embedded in our culture. you got the men in our office to sit up and listen. most were shocked to know women are viewed in that light. your article gav my co-workers and i do discuss the issues. i hope the women who spoke out realize they gavhe opportunity to make things atter. >> woodruff: it'hame it takes something like this to bring people to better wareness but, again, extraordinary reporting. thank you, william. >> brangham: you're welcome.

>> woodruff: and now, to the analysisields and parker. that's syndicated columnist mark shields, and "washington post" columnist kathleen parker. david brooks is away this week. welcome to both of you. happy friday, mark. two bold strokes by t president this week. let's start with the one we led the program with tonight. north korea surprised, i think, a lot of people by saying he will meet as long as north korea meets certainditions. was this the right move? >> we are find out if it was th rive, judy. it was a bold move. make no mistake about it. it disarmed his critics who accused him of being bellcose language, and was risking the brink of war, almost, and especially gratuitouslyli ling the north korean leadership. >> woodruff: little rocket man. >> little rocket man.

then miraculously, north korea said i'm willinto negotiate and consider the possibility of removing my nuclear capability, which i think nobody above the i.q. ofraoom temure believes, but, at the same time, rea problem with north ko the past has not been their willingness to meet or negotiate or agree, it's just that north korea has never kept its word. but the president certainly has taken a bold act and it's brought us back from the brink a of w i think there's an audible sigh of relief. woodruff: smart move, kathleen? >> i just see it as very, very risky, and it's risky because, giving kimhand, he's jong un this legitimacy that he has for so long wanted. you know, when the president of the united states says something, it's always important, everybody listens, and when he does something, it's always important. markets go up and down when he

opens his mouth. he can cause wars with his words, and when he now says he's going to meet with north korea, he is settingimself up for all sorts of problems, potential problems. but he's also, because he's donald trump, has l of wig room to pull out of it at the last minute if hees the circumstances aren't right and we don't know exactly what those ar it's all been just odd, i think, to have had hisn messagig about what north korea's willing to do came from the south koreans, who then are the ones who announced it in front of the white house. i was taken aback by that. i was, like, well, is he out, did he havea dinner dat so somebody else had to talk about it? and at what point is g truing to talk to the country about this very, very important and signifant move? woodruff: in fact, mark, it was announced abruptly. the south korean offic who was at the white house was

there -- he was going to meet with president trump today. yesterday, the president, we are told, it's been reported that he heard he was in the whit went to see him. the president stuck his head into the press room and said, we're going to have an announcement that you will want to pay attenn to. so the way it was announced, the way it w hdled raises some questions. >> it does raise questions, judy. but the questions have been raised and continue to be raised, as one republican explained to me, we have to understand every day is a new reality show, and there's no continuity to this presidency, and it's winning the day. it's changing onthe conversa he's changed the conversation. what was the conversation? ga gone -- gary cohn his economc advisor was quitting because the trade policy. what was the conversation? stormy daniels, the porn actress with which t president allegedly had -- people paid

$130,000 to just before the election to gs going to public. the disarray in the white house, you name it, republican civil war, if not civil war is strong, but at least republican strife over his trade policy, this knocked it all off the front pages. i nd notice the south kor national security head mastered one to have the great secrets of trump was he began praising president trr the meeting, it was all due to his leadership, his strong principled positions and, so, you know, this worked for donald trump. it got the other bad stories away for at least 24 hours. een, horuff: kat much attention should we pay to the theatrics of this? >> i don't know we learn anything from the the yarkts because it's bome sort a template of his. and you do realize you're

watching a reality show. there are other troubling aspects of this and that includes the fact we have esno retation in that part of the world, we have no ambassador to south korea, and our special representative to north korea has just left the building with mostly pro, i'm not sure, but i think because of a -isagreement with trump about how he was about his belicosity. but this fellow was tending toward having these talks. then to add tot tha, we don't have any realiplomatic involvement. secretary of state rex tillerson is speakingu publicly at how we're nowhere close to talking to north korea and in the same news cycle the president is making this announcement or making this invitation. >> reporter:. >> woodruff: while we're trying to figure it out, the other surprise throughout the week is his announcement on tariffs, on imported steel and aluminum. essentially we in the press were

told there would be noce annont and the president made the announcement in a meeting, surprised even, we're told, members of the white house staff, and as you mentioned hism top ec advisor gary cohn stepped down, apparently mainly because of this, b he didn't agree with the move. how do we read that? i should say the president said we're going to have sweeping tariffs on impord steel and aluminum but now we're learning there are a number of exceptions. >> a number of exceptions. donald tru has been consistent in his inconsistency throughout his political career except for his criticism of free trade. that has been continuous and alentless. he views trade aero tum, not that it's rising tide g lifting all boats, anyth that sort, and that the united states under the presence of both administrations have been throlled. so i sense, there are no surprises. obviously, there are great

surprises in how he did it, and he surprised politically. there was no preparation for republicans. there was no preparatiofor the press. there was no preparation in the sense of the stance of what the polls -- substance of what the policy was. >> woodruff: and it goes against republican orthodox. >> it does but he has been i will say for republicans that cuts of $1.5 trillion in medicare d not bother them, cuts in medicaid did not bother them, cuts erin socialces did not bother them, change of immigration policyas not bothered them, repeal of any sense of balance, fiscal policy, balance ago budget did not bother them. they are bothered on -- this is it. i mean, this is where, you know, quite frankly, judy, the corporate c.e.o.s are heard, mthey are of oned and trump is of the other mind and that's quite franklys. where it sta

>> woodruff: what about that? ell, no, i agree with everything mst said and it's just humorous, really that this is the one time the nepublicans are going to dig their heels and say this is not a good idea and say, trump, yore wrong on something. and by the way, what happened in the white house with the various departures and most recently cohn is donald trump is keeping no one around who does not align themselves with his ideas and rhetoric, and thathe problem, cohn disagreed th the tariffs and he is sort of the last moderate voice that was in the white house. now that he's gone, you can expect everyone else to stay in line. and when they stop, they will also disappear. so, you know, as part of this chaotic white house, they've had an awfully difficult time attracting experienced good people and keeping them, and this is the reason you see all these relatively y and inexperienced people in these key positions. 31-year-olds and 25-year-olds, you know, running the show,

because they say, years -- yes s sir, whatever you. say i don't think trump can do anything to alienate his base. it's what happened with the -- happens with the rest that matters. ieni agree with cath line l on one thing. two people not involved in thecine decision kim mattis and the joint chiefs. if you can make the decision not relying on the judgment of these two remarkable leaders, i can't believe it, but donald trump has done that. >> woodruff: and finally, only about a minute left, kathle but i want to bring it to something mark brought up earlier and that is the awkward situation now involving this woman, stephanie clifford. she goes by the name stormy

daniels, pornographic film star who is now involved in a lawsuit against the president because of an agreement to keep quiet about what she says was a relationship sith the president and said hi lawyer paid her $130,000. >> and made the arrangement usg the campaign email, the -- >> woodruff: the trump campaign now, this is more interesting than it appears because i think ofis is track ago little bit along the lineshat happened with bill clinton. michael koehn, trump's lawyer, is mentioned in the steele dossier which has beenne mentio in the russian possible collusion,ryo it's possible mueller could call koehn. at some point as all good

prosecutors do, mueller tries to wet everybody on record lying about something anould see this as president trump being put in a position as bill clinton was an wouldn't it be the irony of all things that despite everything else that's happened, this could be something that really does bring him down. >>woodruff: and we don't k what is going to happen but we certainly have no end of questions and threads to follow at the end of this week. kathleen parker, mark shields, thank you both. >> thank you. >> woodruff: filmmaker ava duvernay has been breaking down walls in her industry for lmveral years, with widely acclaimed now, as jeffrey brown tells us, she's taking on a different challenge: overseeing the adaptation of a much-beloved book, a movie with a big budget

and big expectations to boot. >> brown: it's a trito a fifth dimension of space travel, through what's called a "tesseract," a kind of portal through the galaxies, better known to millions of readers as "a wrinkle in time." madeleine l'engle's beloved 1962 science fiction novel for young daders now comes to new life as a big-budgetney film, as young meg murry and her companions search the universe tfor her missing scientis father, and do battle with dark forces of evil. >> i saw the girl. i saw e girl as hero, meg murry. >> brown: this week in new york, i spoke to dector ava duvernay. >> the girl who's the leader, even though she doesn't think she is or can be. and i loved that story and wanted to make sure it was told, but also told from a perspective that included images where all kinds of girls and boys could

possibly see themselves in it. it's the same story, jushas different skin. >> brown: it's a deeply emotional story of love an loss, but one in which science and brains are more important than brute force. y, brown: the film features oprah winfindy kaling and reese witherspoon as the three mysterious "astral travelers" who serve as guides to the young adventurers. at the heart of the story here, a mixed-race family, with 14-year-old storm reid playing meg. >> i'm conscious of the fact that there hasn't been a hero, a cinematic leading lady who's the heroine of her own story, that's been in the body of a black rl. and so to have the opportunity, with disney's blessing, to say, let's expand this and make sure thee all kinds of kids can s themselves in the film. and i'm proud of that, simply because, really, sndething that kaling said to me: "i used to love this genre, youth fantasy/sci-fi, but it never

loved me back. i never saw myself in it." >> brown: is this something you thought about from the mt ent you took, or as you were thinking about what you were going to create? >> i don't have the privilege of not thinking about it, to be honestith you. it's not like a quirky thing that i think about, or it comes to mind. it's life. and so wn i'm making a film, asserting myself in images of people like me, women and people of color, in places where we've been long absent, isn't a kind of cool thing to do for the movie. asserting my presence in a film is not anything that requires any thought. it just is, because it must be if i'm working on it. >> brown: on twitter, the 45-year-old duvernay calls herself "a girl from compton who got to make a disney movie." today, she's a top director, producer, screenwriter, as well as film marketer and distributor, actively working to change the culture of hollywood.

her 2012 film, "middle of nowhere," made her the first african american woman to win the best director prize at the sundance film festival. she received wider fand recognition in 2015 with her historical drama, "selma," which received an oscar nomination for best picture. the next yeashe made "13th," a critically-acclaimed documentary ceout the intersection of and mass incarceration. and she's the creator of the own network television drama "queen sugar," set in louisiana on a family-owned sugar cane farm. as the show's execute producer, duvernay has made point to hire all women directors. with "a wrinkle in time," duvernay becomes the first african american woman to lead a $100 million film production.

is it surprising that that's still a thing? >> no. i mean, we live, and i work, in an industry where, unfortunately, it's no surprise that it's tan until 2018 to make this so. so it doesn't surprise me. it's bittersweet. it's not anything that i applaud in myself or anything that i wear as a badge of honor. i think it's a real indictment. >>krown: because you look b at why it hasn't happened before? >> yeah, it's an indictment of an industry that's ignored wocredible black women, brown women, all kinds on of color filmmakers for decades, centuries, over a century. li the fact that there's been a decision to put t on me has nothing to do with me. it has to do with a trend in the ndindustry and the moment, happen to be standing here. >> brown: she recently formed a partnership with the city of los an50les and others to fund 1 hollywood internships for women,

people of color and thoswith low-incomes. and duvernay herself became a arfferent kind of role model when mattel made ae doll of her. at sunday's oscars, she appeared in a video calling for wider inclusion, and though she praised this year's event, she says lasting change in the industry is still to come. >> i think "change" is a big word. is there a spark, is there a leaning-in, an interest, an awareness that change should occur, yes. but change involves systems, you know what i mean? true change involves a real disassembling of architecture and systems that we've not achieved. we've not even gotten close to. >> brown: so what does it take to change at this point, beyond the kind of work individuals like yourself are doing? ma there are so many layers. you know, fir proficiency, what images are seen as whluable, who are the curators, are the people who are deciding what the audiences atould see?

cultn of audience, selection of where theaters are around the country. there's a cinema segregation that happens in this country. i jus tt took "wrinkle in tim compton, a city that has no movie theater. we had to create a mov theater! we had to create a movie theater inelma to show the film "selma," because it's a black community with no movie theater. so then u get into, which images are valuable and which audiences are valuable. so it's a complex question. >> brown: do you see yourself as an artist who is always interested in is kind of examining and remaking the world? >> art is simply entertainment that has meaning. there are some things that are empty calories, and there are some things that are soul food. and i prefer soul food. >> brown: with "a wrinkle in time," duvernay says she has the chance to speak directly to young people. >> it's really about the times that i've been the most content in life or the times that i ocdn't focus on the darkness. didn't on where i was from or what i didn't have.

and it's just a shift in perception about the way we walk through our days. imagine if you had millions of people living in that heart space, it would be transformative for the culture. >> brown: a shift in perception, like that "wrinkle" in time that transports the characters in her new film to unimagined worlds. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in new york. >> woodruff: duvernay's next project is a miniseries about the central park five case, in which black men were wrongly convicted of a brutal rape. >> woodruff: and we e back atortly with a "newshour shares," on ice ends. but first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. it is a chance to offer your support, which hel keep

>> woodruff: and now to our "newshour shares:" something that caughour eye that we ought you might be interested in too. earlier this winter, hen hk trygg film friend mårten ajne skating on some very thin ice-- less than two inches thic in fact. the result was a mini- documentary that captured the

eerie, beaiful sounds of bending ice, and it went viral. we recently spoke with trygg by skype about that day and those unique nois. >> my name is henrik trygg, and i'm swedish outdoor photographer. i've been ice skating for 25 years. i think mårten has skated 35 years. the lake is just south of stockholm. it's just 2,000 meters long and 50 meters wide. the sound was really extraordinary that day because the lake is so narrow and the ice was so thin, and then the quality was so good. it's just two-, 2.5-day-old ice. it's very pristine in the beginning. it's not too thick. it's alive.

you feel it you hear it. so this is like the holy grail. it's like the icu is singing, ar it when it's getting feet or the pitch, titch gets higher, the frequency gets higher. so, we jusstarted recording. you hear the noi best when you skate ten to 20 meters away. so i just took it inirectly into my camera. it's a very high pitched tone. so it was fairly okay to recd it with the built-in mic. so there's nothing fancy about it. i skate here because there's not nothing much more to do in the

stockholm winter, and i really enjoy the adventure. i'm very curious. i want to see how far can we go, where can we go. you can have adventure just outside your doorstep. you don't have to travel to the other side of the world. you can get your fix here. >> woodruff: how did he not fall llrough? yoind more online, where we explain the math behind this skater's thin-ice feat. that's on our website, www.pbs.org/newshour. and robert costa is preparing r "washington week," whi airs later tonight. robert, what's on tap? >> a moment of truth on trade for the president. we'll explain why the new tariffs on imported steel and aluminum may be about winning a political war, as well as a tradwar. plus, after months of threats, that potential breakthrough with north kore tonight on "washington week," >> woodrf: and we'll be watching. and that is the newshour for

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