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what president trump's visit to san diego and a congressional race in pennsylvania m california. the police chief for oakland schools says arming teachers will not make schools safer. >> it was irresponsible, it was a ridiculous comment made by us, the students in alameda sound off why they walked out of school this week. >> t "kqed o and welcome to newsroom." i'm thuy vu. we begin with a wd week in politics. on tuesday, president trump made his first visit to california since taking office. toured t ur and examineds. wall prototyhis r
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immigration reenforcementigned in the wake of a bay ar raid. james schwab said he didn't want to spread falhoods. and robert mueller issued subpoenas to the trump organization, after republicans said they found no evidence of collusion with russia in the election. and aviarrowtory in a pennsylvania election lessons for key california res and to discuss all of this, i'm joined by san francisco chronic reporter joy arafoli, welcome to all of you. lonni, given all that's happened this week from the mueller subpoena to trump's visit to the california border, and 'sl not forget rex tillerson's firing, how would you sum u this week for the trump administration? >> welcome to the trump white feelswhere every week
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like three months. this is a remarkable amount of activity. to a certain degree, though, this is exactly the kind of dence and exactly the white house president trump wants. i think he thrives on some element of chaos, particular around him, talk about his inner circle. you know, let'sha not forget he brings t atrpprentethos to washington. and whether he was talking about immigration worle in cala, being more aggressive on drug dealers, that's something he talked abou this week as well. a lot of these are the themes he wants when he's talki the republican base, the base he perceives he needs to have abl rean majority return to the house and senate in november and to beel rted in 2020. i was order this week when trump visited withndreds of his supporters. i have to say you're right on. those folks were right behind him on all of these issues.
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the fact that it's looking more like "survivor" at the white house isot bothering them at all. >> s theporters who came out, were they californians? >> as far away as chicago. the base is there with him. the idea of a border is a very big deal to them. this issue with the i.c.e. raids is a t very big deal them. most of them did not care a bit about the russian story or stormy daniels' story. the media has gone on about it a lot. so that visit worked with his base. it also fed up democrats all across california, as well. >> he went after jerry brown,oa land may yoor. >> which they loved.ew gavinm started fund raising within hours after being
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called out by sessions. this was an appeal to the base, but as we saw in pennsylvania, the base may not be enough. the president did lose that race in western pennsylvania, a district that he had -- was up by 22 i poin the election. and those are his base voters, the democr won that seat. that's a warning for so he's appealing to tbase, but he has to broaden his appeal if he hopes t be re-elected. >> let's talk about conor lamb the democrat who won in pennsylvania. it a runoff, or t point, is this hurting him where it hurt counts with thi base? >> i it's both. conor lamb did run as a very conservative democrat. >> republican lht. >> how many democratks you imagine with a picturewi an
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ar-15. and you had a republican candidate who was anti-union in a district that was very pro union. so there are reasons to believe this is particularized. but you do have a lot of energy in the democrat base. the republican base is still angry over the failure to repeal obamacare last year. that still continues to be a factor. one the one hand you shouldn't be think thing is what we're going see in november.th on other hand, there are trends here worrisome to >> and this was no democratic primary there. we're seeing inache senate in california, feinstein being challenged from the left. these primaries in california are worrisome to some democratshere, because in some of these races tat looked to be easy for them to pick off, darrell issa down there, they'vf got h a dozen democrats now vying for these seats, andit's very possible that two republicans are going to end up
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in the -- winning in the primary as a result. democrats are reald about this. >> the chairman of the party is openly saying we have an overpopueation party. get out of he's asking democrats to leave. those orange county seats aren't as conservative -- or aren't as swing as we might think they are. those are voters who vote in state ballot measures for the conservative side of things. so democrats,hose are not in the bag. it may have been a blessing to opublicans that republicans left, because they got to have stronger candidates come in. >> so what is the lesson then from pennsylvania from california? you havro an oveed democratic field for a lot of these congressional seats. you know, californi is hoping to use this state to help it with -- take over the house in november. you have an overcrowded d what should democrats need to do in california with their
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messaging? i think theesson i s pennsylvania was, have candidates tat look like your correct. you can't -- if you start talking about single payer health care western pennsylvania, you'll g at as a socialist. but conor lamb looked like the district. so the lesson f some of the conservative districts, haveho someone looks like the correct. >> is devin nunes' seat, you have a former prosecutor that seat. it looked like there's no way you could take out devin nunes. but it's a republican leaning district, but now the candidate, the democrat, is saying it's going to be possible. if conor lamb could do it in a district so strongly republican, a lot of democrats are saying here that hope >> i think the challenge, though,rs that tare divisions within the democratic party electorate, as well.
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maybeou see more that in california, some of these candidates are getting pulled to ae left. so you may ha candidate that ends up being a little too progressive for a district like california39, whichis ed royce's seat. by and large, it may be less progressive people think. if you end up with a candidate who is trying to out-left the other candidate, your general cr election dem, if there is one, may be too far to the left november.dible come so that's a big concern for democrats. >> speaking of the left, i to move on to immigration real quickly. we have the first undocumented immigrant appointed to a statewide post on a commission that will help advi on college sets. >> that's a huge marker, and igally fired up a lot of people on the . she's a very creble attorney, someone who did not qualify for daca because shewent back to mexico. but she's been appointed to help
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undocumented immigrants get into college in california. of course, that's bein cheered by the left, and being vilified by the right. yet another really divisive immigration issue that comes right home to california. >> and the raise that has been happening,let's take a look at the biggerpicture. now you have a number of central valley farmers who once supported trump are sounding the alarm sayg these raises are hurting our farm worker population here in california. >> and there's already shortage farm lady. this will drive people underground, and then on the political side, it willse incr the urgency for latinos to vote. >> this is anss where president trump, if he really wanted to come out and forgep tisan consensus, there is a pathway to do that. so far, unfortunately, the administration attended to adopt some of that rhetoric, and some of the positioning on tisssue
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that will make a compromise difficult. if the president wanted to do it, i think he would uniquely be able to do it. >> there was a case this week in the centralalley where a couple, farm workers looking for work, in an suv, were to be pulled over by i.c.e.t car crashed after a chase. the six kids are now orphaned. i think this kind of case is thatng attention, the fact week were rkers last ye brought in by i.c.e. and senator feinsteined protes and said why are we going after farm workers? as you said, the benefit some of e elected officials who stood up to them, ike libby schaaf. this stuff has been gold to her. >> there's t people that could help bridge a come proszpromisc.
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that's kevin mccarthy nunes. they've been waiting years to take a stand, ando find that compromise that could appease conservatives. done it. >> all right. what a it started monday and kept [ laughter ] all right. thank you all. e month after 17 people were killed at stoneman douglas high school in florida, tens of thousands of students across the country walked out of school wednesday to send asa mee. they said they were protesting the inaction of congress on gun violence. president trumpreversed himself on several gun control proposa and is advocating that teachers be armed in classrooms. joining me now to discuss this
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are san francisco chronicle education reporter jill tucker. oakland unified school district's police chief jeff godal. and pttsburgh high school teacher peter. thank you for joining us today. chief, y lead a unit of 20 sworn police officers, ather 100 school security officers who are not armed. what is your treaction the suggestion that teachers be armed? >> my initial reaction to the president's statement was that it was a ridiculous comment made by the president. he hno experience in safety in schools. i know he'sdeveloping a blue ribbon panel of people that hav. sys it was irresponsible. there is not a positive aspect of ming teachers i can come up with, and i talked to ma teachers that say the same thing. same teachers are there to teach and prevent violence. that's what i'm paid to do. y>> what areur biggest concern it is teachers have guns?
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>> what is the responsible to do? are they responsible to stop a student a long ange rifl such as florida? are they supposed to stop a robbery in front of a are they now responsible for policing the school such as my poople would be rible for? i mean, really what is the reason why they're carrying g nd what are their responsibilities? it's fraught with problems and d training, here they're going to carry the gun. as a student, how am i feel if i know a teacher is carrying a gun. what kind ofir school enment, does that make me feel safer? i don see any positive aspects of it. ople in the midwest, i'm sure you'll find people that think it's t right thing to do. >> peter, you're a teacher at pittsbur what do you think about what he just said about that student-teacher teachers are armed? >> well, i want to say i 100%
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agree that 's a terrible idea to have teachers armed. what i was thinking about is that what makes an effective teacher is that they establish a relationship with their students. and that relationship involves trust, openness, it involves students feeling like they're comfortable to share anything i. the moment that you have somebody with a gun, it atudents will feel -- i believe that students will really feelhrtened or scared. and it just not be the same kind of environment. a r illy feel like the education of students is going to be much worse. i don't see it as being a good solution at all. >> and teaching in many districts is already a veryss stl job. >> yeah, you can say i make this joke with my students, but honestly, there hirung already, and it is an incredibly stressful job. iruly believe you'll have more
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instances of teachers losing their cool and yo going to have classroom tragedies because at,eacher j you know, some kid just pushed him or her to the limit and you'll have accidents and you'll have at sins. and i believe more people will be hurt that way than any -- stopping a mass shooting for e'ample. >> th a new poll that just came out today on this. in general, teachers oppose having other teachers armed. the gallup poll today with73% of teachers oppose the idea. 58% said they would feel less safe. he18% said would be willing a . andhat's out of teachers -- a quarter of teachers, of the 3.2 million teachers nation wide, give orfake h own guns. many are gun owners. but poll after poll after poll agree with peter here, saying we
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don't want our fellow teachers armed. >> and yet it is -- although it's illegal in california,it legal in at least 14 other states where teachers can be armed. texas, missouri, ohio, indiana, florida following t parkland shooting. a lot of these states made these chang after the sandy hook shooting. after happened in florida, do you see the moment picking up for teachers to be armed in other states across the nation is >> certainly i think communities in general in states are talking about it. isis t something that they would want? where we've seen it in the past in idaho where you see it, it's in some rural area where the local communities have said we want this because the sheriff is ines away. in arizona and other states, you can -- teachers can be armed, but they have to get permission from thscr locaol board. this is largely a discussion
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happening in local communities. not in california, certainly not the b but there's a lot of folks talking about this at their local school bocds and their munities and the argument forearming teachers from the nra and from president trump is that this could be a deterrent based on what you see out there, with your officers, would it be a deterrent? would it be effectiv stopping a determined >> i'm glad you answered the questio -- the question, becaus. we get confused between school safety and what happened in florida. the everyday schools in california and oakland and i'm sure in other areas are very safe. kids go tol, scho we might recover a hand gun every once in a while, but for the most part, schools are safe. in our l district, as w most districts in california. thisgentleman ca in with a the one ellered rifle,
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police officer stationed in florida didn't stop him. if that kid came into my office, it would be hard pressed for us to stopim to you expect one teach stop somebody with a high powered weapon? it's ridiculous to consider that. the reason that 18% of the teachers are willing to do that, because they're willing to take care of their kids. they might not understand the responsibility of what that will involve, but i'm not surprised because tey want keep their kids safe. but it's not going to work. and the officers show up on scene, how willac know which r is which? now i have a civilian with a hand gun and have other people . i don't see a simple solution, nor do i s it positive in any way. >> i was going to say, in talking to kids over the last few weeks, i spent a lot of time talking to young people, one
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thing that struck me when talking about their tbchers ng armed, they said, do you think a teacher is going toof shoot one their students when they walk in with gun? how do you expect them to look them in the eye and shoot them? it was dprgripping when they th about having their teachers being armed. they feel other students could easily get ahold of that gun. >> that's the other thing we haven't brought up yet.at s the likelihood an accident will happen if >>e saw that happen this week. >> this teacher was are erve police officer. you have to think this is somebody who would be the mosto qualified this kind of thing. and what happened? a gun goes off in hisoo clas >> during a lecture about gun safety.t' >> ironic and incredible this happened. but it's a perfect example of another reason why this is such
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a terrible idea. >> i think, chief, they -- what they say the statistics is that ev trained officers who train all the time don't hit their target, you know, 75% of the time. >> the harsh reality is every o of the shootings that occurred, a suspect that comes wants to pump as many rounds dn range as he an. he knows as soon as he pulls the trigger, 911 will be called and he has between five to eight minutes to cause as much damage as he can the calvaryar ves, and they're going to either commit suicide or killed by the police. officer in flori hard time go into thati bui, for whatever reason, which he is supposed to. now a teacher will have too that job instead? i can't imagine being in that position and i can't imagine where the teachers will ask for more money to do this job.
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>> this is very i'm actually really quite offended that the president proposed budget cuts toe department of education. and yet all of a sudden nowre th money, he's going to buy guns and bullets f teachers, provide training for teachers. he said we should offer a bonus if teachers are willing to do that. i would like to say how about money for bos,technology, smaller class sizes. health care for kfy
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walkout to memorialize the lives of the students from parkland, orida, and to take a stand. >> to parkland, florida, it's a date never to be forgotten. >> when i found out about the shooting in arkland, i was school and not the notification on my phe. i wasdevastated, bec thought, another one? how does this keep happening? for me, it's especially close to home, because i'm a high school >> can you guys help us really quick? >> these are theames of the victims,okay? >> we're not just skipping class
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or becoming reckless teams. >> marjory stoneman douglas, 17 lives were taken. we cannot tolerate 17 lives taken at the hands of a gun. we cannot tolerate gridlock in congress to tell us how to react to these situations. >> we want change! >> if i can say one thing to members of congress, i would say that there blood on your hand it is you're not doing anything to prevent gunsviolence in t country. >> let today be a step towards the change tomorrow. a change for the better. do not forget the lives that have been lost. and remember the reasons you walked today, because ytu are he change. >> we have about 300ng comi up from alameda high school. they're moving quickly. >> save o kids! stop thebullets. >> we've grown up with this mass violence. we know about it from social media, and fe're reallyeeling this. every there's a fire alarm
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that goes off, udents worry there might be a schoolsh ter on campus. >> hey, hey, ho, ho -- >> we're fed up. enough is enough. there's so many amazing student leaders around the country who areaying that and rallying students we are now atwashington park, we justwn marched from some other schools. we're here with alameda high an. >> parents are burying their damn and saying their last good boois. >> i'm proud to see how many students ar out here braving the rain, it's gross and wet, but they're out here being g involved, beroud of what think lieve in, and i that's something to to high , and i go school. today, i decided to speak because i'm the victim of gun violence and i would like to chair my story.
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someone who i'm close to threatened my life with agun. and someone i'm also very close to, they survived a mass shooting. >> thank you for >> i support the student's voice in standing up for what they believe, and affecting positive world.in th i also know that this is just an unacceptable reality that we live in. somebody, some day, may come to our school andshoot our children while they're i our care. and it's just got stop. >> due to all the school shootings going on, high school student s like us are forced to practice active shooter drills. silence. the red dot is the safest place in the classroom. so if a shooter wouldter, this would be the last place they look. and during this, our teacher is
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going to lock the door and close the blinds to prevent access from the shooter to see intoas r oom and enter. the three things we do while dealing with an active shooter is run, hide,if shooter is able to shoot through the windows and doors and getin, you have to fight. that means taking everything you can, staplers, desks and throwing fighting and try to stall, because a couple of seconds can make a huge a difference person's life. >> to betu a high school sdent today, it's scary. i'm notoing to lie and say it's not. >> we are done with gun violence. we are done withchool shootings. >> at the same time, it makes me feel like i have real purpose, i feel an urgency to create change. think it is this genera that'soing to advocate for gun control actually happen. >> we want change! >> and i would really hope that stu would understand that going forward. >> when do we want it?
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>> before we go, we have a update from another high school student. last week, we brought you the n ory of jennifer bro, whose mother had been it for a year. a judge ordered that her mother be released and they were reunited and that will do it for us. find more of our coverage at our website. i'm thuy vu. thank you for pete: fired or fo
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out? president trumpla rs more senior staff with like-minded advisors. i'm pete williams in for costa.t we discuss the churn inside the white house as robert mueller's russia investigation looks atth trump organization's business ptoctices. night on "washington week." president trump: but there'll always be change. pete: just 14 months into office, president trump reshapes s administration. president trump: i'm at a pint where we're getting very close to having the cabinet and othert things tha i want. pete: this week he fired the secretary of state and chose the c.i.a. director to take over. he's also reportedly preparing to name his third national security advisor in less than a year.sc dals have other issues
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