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y captioning sponsored b newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, for t first time, president trump takes direct aim at specialle counsel mu lashing out at the ongoing russia investigation and reigniting many lawmakers' fears. then... >> if we don't get touthe drug dealers, we're wasting our ti. >> woodruff: ...the president unveils a new plan to fight the nation's opioid epidemic, calling for the death penalty and tougher laws for drug traffickers. plus, a familiar face on the international scene isn't going anywhere soon: russia's president putin wins s more years in power. >> a choice without real competition as we have seen in this election is not a real choice. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> woo from president trump today, new accusations that the investigation into ties between his campaign and russia th a "witch hunt." at the same timewhite house again insisted the pres remove special counsel robert mueller. meanwhile, "the washington post" reported mr. trump's attorneys have provided mueller with written accounts of key points in the investigation. it's an effort to limit the scope of any interview with the president. we'll have a full repoter the news summary. the capital city of texas is on edge tonight, after a fourth bombing this month. two people were wounded in the latest explosionlast night. syeda hasan of austin's npr station, kut, is covering the story, and spoke to us a short ile ago.
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syeda hasan, thank you very much for talking with us. what can you tell us about what's known about what happened? >> this latest explosion happened late sundy night, and we know that this explosive device was different than the previous three we've seen. it wasn't a package bomb. it was actually iggered by trip wire placed along the side ng a road, and these two you men who were the victims, both in their 20s, were walking along the side of that road in this residenti neighborhood in southwest austin, when they tripped that wire and seoff the explosive device. we know that both of those men did sufr injuries, non-life-threatening injuries. they were transported to the hospital, and they're said to be in good condition at this int. >point. >> woodruff: and what are police saying about a conibnectn po between this bombing and the other ones? >> police are saying they're operating under the assumption this latest explosion is related to the previous three we've seen throughout austin since mar 2. there is a lot we don't know at this point but they're operating under thassumption as that
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investigation moves forward. >> but it's not because ofny particular evidence? >> i haven't heard it tied to those bombings because of any particular evidence. i haven't likely heard policee express ationale behind that, but just the proximity of this to those other explosionss certainly caat into question. but, you know, there are aspects of this explosion thart are vey different. all of the previous three explosions have been packages that were left outside of people's door steps, and they were triggered by folks handling those packages in some way. and bectause of that reason, ty seem to target those folkser specifically, s this trip wire was really set in a way to where it could have been set off bynybody and it really could have harmed and affected anybody that came across it. >> woodruff: and police made an unusual appealirectly to the attacker? >> that's right, yesterday chief brian manly at a press conference told the attacker that investigators are interested in talking with them. th implored the attacker or
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attackers to reach out to investigators antalk with them and help them understand what kind of message this person or persons is trying to send through these attacks. >> woodruff: and finally, syeda, how is the community dealing with this? how are pee opressing their concern is this. >> i think that a lot of folks are looking for answers.se when tfficial attacks happened, you know, people knew to be aware of suspicious packages. police really spread the word about that for people to not pick up suspicious packages or any kind o item that may look out of place. as of now, i think that the naturef these attacks is really difficult to predict with something like a trip wire bei set up in a residential neighborhood. oo i know there is a lot of concern, folks lking for answers, and authorities are just encouraging people to, again, report anything suspicious they come across, whether it be a package or a bag or backpack of some sort and be aware of their surroundings.
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>> woodruff: syeda hasanwith station kut in austin. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, tech stocks helped sendvi wall street . facebook led the way. it dropped 7% in value on news that a firm hired by the trump presidential campaign accessed the private information of more than 50 million facebook users.w the nes industrial average plummeted 335 points to close61 tst under 2 the nasdaq fell mon 137 points, and the s&p 500 slipped 39. republicans in pennsylvania suffered critical lossesruoday in a loning congressional redistricting fight. both the u. supreme court and a panel of federal judges refused their request to block a newly drawn map deemed more fair, and more favorable to demoats. tomorrow is the deadline to file for the may primary ballot. the family business of jared
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kushner, theresident's son-in- law, now faces state and local investigations for allegedly falsifying documents in new york. that's after the associated press reported kushner companies routinely claimed it had no rent-controlled tenants, when in fact, there were hundreds. today, a new york city council member condemned the practice. >> there's a conscious effort by kushner companies to weaponize construction for the purpose of displacing new yorkers from affordable housing units. and once we lose rent-regulated units, we lose them forever. so as far as we're concerned, the buck stops with kushner ctmpanies. >> woodruff: the pe made it easier to bring in higher- paying tenants, and then, to sell the buildinmo for more y. jared kushner was running the business at the time.mp his y says it outsourcedk the paperw another firm. n the war in syria, turkey warned its campaainst syrian kurds is ready to expand, to areas where u.s. troops are deployed.
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that's after turkish forces seized the kurdish-hd city of afrin. today, theyrian government hedemanded the turks leave region. meanwhe, the syrian assault on eastern ghouta, outsidov damascus, drthousands more people from their homes, and into government lines. backn this country, uber halted all tests of self-driving cars after an arizona woman was killed by one last night. it's the first known fatality caused by an autonomous hicle. police in tempe said the woman was walking outside a crosswalk when she was hit. a human operator was in the car, but it was in self-driving mode at the time. mississippi has become the only state to ban abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. republican governor il bryant signed the restrictions into law today. the state's lone abortion clinic says it will file a legal
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challenge. and, leaders in the u.s. congress pressed today to finish a huge spending bill before iday's deadline. it totals $1.3 trillion and increases military and domestic% funding by the bill would fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year. still to come on the newshour: what the firing of andrew mccabe means for the mueller investigation. president trump lays out a plan to combat the opioid crisis. l vladimir putindslide victory in the russian election, and much more. >> woodruff: president trump seemed to drop his strategy of deferring to the speal counsel. lisa desjardins begins our coverage on the latest attacks
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coming from the white house. >> mr. president, should mueller be fired? >> desjardins: leaving for newmp haire today, president trump ignored shouted questions about special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation. it was a sharp contrast to days of attacking mueller on social media, including a tweet this morning declaring the probe "a total witch hunt with massive then this afternoon, the "newim york" reported the president mr. trump has hired lawyer joseph e. digenova, who has said the f.b.i. and justice department tried to frame mr. trump. meanwhile, lawmakers in both parties have warned the president: don't fire special counsel mueller. an senator, and sometime trump ally, lindsey graham: ni if he tried to do that, that would be the beg of the end of his presidency, because we're a rule of law nation.on >> desjardins:essman adam schiff, the top democrat on the housintelligence committee: >> this would undoubtedly result in a constitutional crisis, and i think decrats and republicans need to speak out
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about this right now. >> desjardins: and republican trey gowdy, who chairs the house oversight committee. >> let it play out its course, if you've done nothing wrong you should want the investigation to be as fulsome and thorough as possible. >> desjardins: to quell the furor, late last night, white house lawyer ty cobb issued a statement that the president is not considering firing mueller. and white house legislative director marc short insisted mr. trump is frustrated about a probe he sees as wasteful, but remains compliant. >> we have cooperated in every single way, every single paper they've asked for, every single interview. >> desjardins: this flurry of reaction came after "the new york times" reported thursday that mueller has subpoenaed business documents from the trump organization, something mr. trump had called "red line" last year. by sunday, the president was attacking mueller by name for the first time, accusing his team of being stacked with "13 hardened democrats, some bigoo crd hillary supporter and zero republicans."
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in fact, robert mueller himself is a longtime registered republican. he was appointed f.b.i. director by rep w. bush.esident george mr. trump is partially correct, according to the "washington post," 13 of mueller's 17 staff lawyers have at one time gistered as democrats. six of the 17 donated to hillary clinton in the 2016 presidenti race. >> cruel, un-american and mean spirited. >> desjardins: in a related story, today on the house floor, democratic congressman steve cohen of tennessee critized the justice department's friday firing of rmer f.b.i. deputy director andrew mccabe, two days before he was set to retire. >> it was a shot acrosbow at other government officials that are doing their jobs: justice department officials, f.b.i. officials, lawof enforcemencials who love this country and put their lives on the line. >> desjardins: attorney general jeff sessions said he fired mccabe on the recommendation of
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f.b.i. disciplinary als for leaking to the press and not being candid with investigators looking into the matter. the president saw mccabe as a biased foe and declared his dismissal "a great day for democracy." house majority leader kevin mccarthy defended mccabe's firing on saturday. >> i know a lot of democrats are trying to make this a political problem, but it's not. >> desjardins: media reports now say mccabe kept notes on his conversations with president oump, and has turned themr to special counsel mueller. for the pbs newshour, i'm lisa lpsjardins. >> woodruff: to ill in the picture of where things go form here: adam goldman covers the f.b.i. and national security for the "new york times." welcome back to the program, adam goldman. you have been reporting on thisn what wen the decision to fire andrew mccabe? >> well, essentially, what went into the decision was they looked at an episodehere mccabe tried to defend his
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reputation involving a "wall street journal" story about thei f.b.i.vestigation into the clinton foundation. he was accused of trying to thwart that investigation. he as a deputy director was authorized to speak with the media and he made it kno that's not what happened with the hillary clinton investigation. in t course of the a.i.g. investigation, they asked him about the mediauriscland dinged him for his response to those questions, and they found he had a lack of candor under .bth, which is a summary dismissal at the., and it's a big deal because f.b.i. agents are taught from dy one to be truthful because their credibility isn the line if they have to testify in the case. >> woodruff: i.g. is inspectorh general at justice department, and it's our understanding the report has not been made public yet.
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>> no. we're still waiting. we thought it would be late winter, early spring, but the report by the justice department inspector general is going to be a wide, wide big report the actions of the f.b.i. in 2016, including decisions that former f.b.i. director james b. comby made regarding the hillary clinton investigation. his famous press conference july 2016 and letters he sent to congress. >> you've -- you have some understanding of how mccabe has handled this. he put out a very tough statement when the firsing wa announced. how is he dealing with this and what can we expect from him going strward? as we eard, it's indicated that he's kept notes about his conversations with the president. >> that's true. mccabe, comby and others have all kept notes and are going to be potential witnesses in that obstruction investigation if that ever comes to light
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regarding mueller's probe intoen the press actions. i think mccabe feelsge unders he joined the bureau in 1996. many pple believed he was honest f.b.i. agent. some people didn't like the decisions he made as dety director, operational decisions but it's a tough decision in any organization like the f.b.i., the c.i.a., they have to make the tough call, some people didn't like them. but he gave his life to the bureau and to the country, andin hese dizzying events, he's now been accused of essentiallyn and it cost him his pension just hours before he was eligible to rtiren sunday. >> woodruff: you cover the f.b.i., you talk to people all the time there. is there any kind of consensus about how this will affect the muelr investigation? >> well, you know, they've attacked the -- mccabe's credibility has been attacked. he another key witness. the white house has attacked th
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credibil the former director comey, he is a key witness in this. you knowub, repcans on the hill have made text messages public between a couple of rb.i. -- you know, sen f.b.i. agent and a seen your f.b.i. lawyer who worked on the russia case. their credibility has now been attacked. so, you know, in the end, thesee le who played an important part in this f.b.i. investigation into possible russian collusion are all under attack and their credibilityli will be on the and not clear how that will tort hurt ol damage m's investigation. >> woodruff: adam goldman of the "new york times," thank youm veh.ge >> woodruff: wreaction from lisa monaco, who was the homeland security and counter- terrorism adviser to former president barack obama. t she has also l justice department's national security division, and served for tefee years as cf staff and counsel to robert mueller when he was director of the f.b.i.
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lisa monaco, thank you for joining us. is there any doubt in your mind that president trump and attorney general sessions were in their rights when they fired andrew mccabe? >> the attorney general was within his right to dismiss a member of the juste department, but we can't really judge the merits of that decision because we don't have the inspector general repor i will tell you, based on my nearly 15 years of exinperienc the justice department and being part of literally dozens of and reviewing dozens of inspector general reports, it is highly unusual to not havthe report itself made public when such a public action asd happete friday night takes place. so we have to ask ourselves why is that th case, why was there a rush to take thiioact26 hours befor before andy mccabe s
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due to retire? why was the report and investigation that was focused on mccabe separated out from the broader invtigation and accelerated from the broader investigation of the conduct of thf.b.i. on the hillary clinton email case? so all of these are, i think very significant questions. >> woodruff:ell, as i eunderstand it, that's the attorney general's decision tke ma you work with andrew atcabe in your time at the f.b.i. as his reputation then? >> mccabe has and had a very good reputation. i worked withim when i was at the justice department, the f.b.i. and when i was in the white house. he, my experience, iman of very high integrity. he has devoted his life to public service, and he was literally on the other end ofo the ne at all hours of the day and night when it came to terrorist attacks, rorist threats. this is a man who has devoted his life to public service. he is a career civil servant,
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and, you know, this is an issue that i think we really do have to wonder why was th ting done in this way. >> woodruff: i also want to,rs of co ask you about the mueller investigation. you worked very clseo with bob mueller when he ran, was hed of the f.b.i. when this firing took place over the weekend, andrew mccabe put out a statement he thought the president had done this? connection with the russia investigation. as all of us know, the president's been very critical of the mueller investigation. based on everything you kno does the president have a point when he says this is an investigation that should have never goten underway in the first place? >> wel i don't think there's any merit to that contention. this is an investigation tha was begun after the president fired james comby. this was an investigation that -- and the special counsel
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was appointed byod rosenstein, president trump's deputy attorney general, and a career prosecutor himself. so, you know, ane of tht really stands up. and i think, judy, what this shows is really a pattern of an effort to distract from the special counsel's investigation and the results that he ands team are putting forward. and it also shows somhing else, which i think is very damaging to the institutions of the department of justice and the f.b.i., which is the president not observing the longime norm of having a wall between law enforcement and justice department decisions both on cases and in personnel matters as was the case with e action against andy mccabe on friday night, novit obs that wall between the white house and the justice department. and the reason you want to observe that wall is so there is no question, no taint or cloud over decions made at the justice department and,
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unfortunately, that's now what we have. the minu the president started tweeting and publicly calng for andy mccabe's ouster, yhere's now a taint over justice department decision that follows from that. >> woodruff: one othe thing. the original intent of this inveigation, as we understan et, was to look into whether there was a connection betweenum the campaign and the russian officials, the 2016 campaign. how far can robert mueller stray from that original purpose in is investigation? >> well, i think, if you look at the charge givto the special counsel as laid down by rod rosenstein, the dputy attorn general and the acting attorney general for purposes of this eraler because attorney ge sessions is, of course, recused, the original charge to spia counsel mueller and his team is to investigate the matters as you set forth but also matters and issarues thaise from that
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investigation. so we also have e statement of rod rosenstein of just a few weeks ago recently where he said es not find any fault, or words to that effect, wih how special counsel mueller is conducting himself. and, of course, any expansion of the probe would have to be approved by rod rosstein, the depp at the attorney general. >> woodruff: well, lisa monaco, so much to talk about here. we thank you very much for joining us today.vi >> thanks for me. w >> woodruff:te house spokesman said today the trump administration was "not surprised by the outcome" of yesterdas russian presidential election, which renewed vladimir putin's rule f six more years. that spokesman said no congratulatory phoneall has been scheduled between putin and president trump. as john yang reports, the
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russian leader enjoys enormous support at home based in part on his confrontations abroad with the west. >> yang: it was a surprise to no ae: vladimir putin claime landslide victory sunday night, at a rally just outside the kremlin walls. >> ( translated ): we will think about the future of our great motherland, about the future ofl our chen, and by doing so we are surely destined for success. yes? >> ( translated ): yes! >> yang: with nearly 77% of the vote, 65-year-old putin's re- election to a fourth term makes the former k.g.b. officer russia's longest-serving leader since dictator joseph stalin. putin, who's previously said that political oppos threatens to "de-stabilize" russia, called for national unity. ( translated ): we need to make a breakthrough. we can do it, we have all the reasons for this, to think that that, while we do this, rsdifferent political powe should not be run by some group interests, not by clan
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inte sts, but national interests. >> yang: many russians celebrated putin's win, 13an points higher is 2012 re- election. >> ( translated ): people confirmed that they trust the president and his policies. >> yang: russian election authorities are investigating a variety of reported violations, including employers pressuring workers to vote, andas seen in this security camera footage, widespread ballot stuffingn atis least five dicts. but even russians who did not support putin said there was no question that he would win. >> ( translated ): i think i to be honest, there was no one else to vote for. i think it was all predictable. >> yang: international election observers agreed >> a choice without real competition as we have seen in this election is not a real choice. >> yang: putin's main challenger, opposition leader, alexei navals barred from running, because of what he says are politically motivated corruption charges after he called for a national boycott. navalny applauded those russians who stayed home from the polls.
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>> ( translated t is absolutely clear that for the first time we could unite a large number of people who with full consciousness, not because on a sofa, decided not to take part in this disgusting game. >> yang: opposition groupsll d in solidarity in moscow today. >> i wouldn't call an election at all, its particular elections it's designed not to have a choice. >> yang: arkady ostrovsky, russia editor for "the economist," says navalny was excluded to give putin the landslide victory hed. i so the process was set a way to exclude any competition and sohat putin could establish hielf as a sort of a national unchallenged national leader with no alternatives ores other candid well you know it was in other words it was a performance. the people who turned up at the tpolling stations also knt this is a performance. >> yang: ostrovsky says putin's broad popularity stems largely from his "confrontation with the
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west." that includes ongoing russian military intervention in ukraine. and in syria, where it's helping syrian president bashaecal-assad prose a brutal civil war. >> i think if anything, we're going to see some escalation cause the system depends on this escalation, the system and the way his legitimacy his popularity depends on this image of russia being a besieged fortress under attack. >> yang: meantime, britain, france, germany and the u.s. are blaming russia for a chemical weapons attack on a former double agent in britain. yesterday, putin called the accusations "nonsense." and last week, the trump administration slapped news sanctions on rn individuals and entities, for alleged g ssian election meddling in 2016, and launchberattacks against american energy grids and infrastructure. ostrovsky says putin is undeterred.ed
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>> he to create conflicts to have this backlash from the west powers which then in time allow him to justify himself as the defender of russian interests. >> yang: for his part, putin yesterday sought to assure russia watchers, that he's more statesman than instigator. ( translated ): build relations with all world in a way that is constructive. >> yang: russia's current constitution bars putin from running for a third, consecutive presidential term in 2024. when asked if he planned to reform russia's constitution again to allow himself additional terms, putin said he was considering it. for thpbs newshour, i'm john yang. >> woodruff: president trump announced his plan to combat nationwide opioid drug addiction today, calling for stronger punishments on drug dealers,
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including the death penalty. william brangham reports. ham: the president flew to new hampshire to make his announcement, a state he once called "a drug-infested den."io it has the ns third highest death rate from opioid overdoses. but in manchester today, mr. trump vowed more aggre prosecution, including the death penalty for traffickers. >> if we don't get tough on the drug dears we're wasting our time, just remember that, we're wasting our time. and that toughness includes thet death pe >> brangham: federal law already asallows for executions in that involve murders committed during drug-related crimes. the human rights group "harm reduction international," based in london, says the united states and 31 other countries ve the death penalty for drug crimes. only seven routinely carry out executions. earlier this month, mr. trump cited two of those, singapore and china, as exples. >> but if you go to singapore, i
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said, mr. president, what happens with your drugs? no. we don'tave a problem, president. i said, really? we have a zero tolerance. and he is not playing games. these guys don't play games. >> brangham: beyond the death penalty, the president also crlled for other initiatives to tackle the opioiis: they include: new laws making it easier to impose mandatory minimum sentences on opioid drue ers, increased education and awareness programs, broader access to medically-assissted treatment options, and more aggressive prosecutions of doctors, pharmacies and opioid manufacturers. >> our department of justice is looking very seriously into bringi major litigation against some of these drug companies. >> brangham: the president is also setti a goal of cutting opioid prescriptions by a third in three years, and boostingse rech in non-addictive painkillers. opioid prescriptions have declined somewhat in recent
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years, but an average of 115 americans still die each day dofrom opioid-related overses. tse centers for disease control and prevention reppioids killed more than 42,000 americans in 2016, the most ever recorded. many states, like new hampshire, are overwhelmed. last month, the granite state's largest drug rehab provider announced it's closing for want of funds. while congressromised $6 billion over two years to help battle opioids, lawmakers have yet to decide how and where e money will be spent. we take a closer look at what the president's new proposals could mean for the opioid crisiw in the u.sh sam quinones, journalist and author of "dreamland: the true tale of america's opiate epidemic." and dr. andrew kolodny, he's co- director of opioid policy research at brandeis university's heller school and is executive director of physicians for responsible opioid prescribing, a group r working uce the overprescription of painkillersy
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andrew koli would like to start with you first. could you just give me your reaction to the prposals that the president laid out today? >> well, what we heard from the pr oident, i think, is a lisf ideas, some of which sound good, others whi sound like step backward. what we still have not recei td fre trump administration is a plan of action, and we've yet to hear president trump request funding from congress, a multi-year, multi- billion-dollar funding request to address the problem, until we builout aeatment system that doesn't really exist yet so that people who opioid addicted who can access treatment more than opioids, until we get there we'll experience more deaths. >> brangham: t announcement
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was death penalty for drug traffickers. what do you make of that is this. >> facetiously, i was wondering is he referring doctors, referring to drug company salesmen and executives? this epdemic is unlike any other in which it begins withth e folks and not truck traffickers and street gangs and mafiosos. i welcome the idea the president is getting bind this.e i welcere are ideas a lot of people have been calling for i r a long time. nd the idea of a death penalty is like the silver llet, the idea of, well, this will solve our problems, this is how we got into this problem ins the place. everybody wanted a silver bullet, an answer to all human pain, and the answer was narcotic painkillers, an supposedly they're nonaddictive. i think as a country we really f are playing wie when we begin to look to easy answers. it's a complicatedroblem, it needs a lot of complicated and
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small solutions, all across the country, and what it adoes is divert attention from the place where the work is really going on, which is in a lot of counties where folks have just banded together. it's beautiful to watch. it's exhilaratrig, very amen thing to watch, i love it. you go to these counties and people are coming together, county task forces, works group learning to work together. for so long we have been so isolated, knees groups have not -- these groups have not worked together so well. i hopehe would say i'm going to these areas, tell them what a great job they're doing and put the focus on them, not me. >> brnyangham: andrew kol let's talk specifics. one of the things the president mentioned is he wants to cut opioid prescription by a third in three years. t that an important thino do? how realistic is that? what did you make of that part of the president's proposal? >> i think it's a worthwhile goal, and it can be hard to understand why it's stillan
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impoto focus on the overprescribing problem when deaths involving elicitly synthesized opiates like fentanyl are soaring. but it is important. we're not going to be able to bring the yoipped addiction epidemic to an ent unless we present more americans from becoming yoipp addicted. we no the vast majority of addicts, this addiction began taking prescription opioids. since 2012, pring has come down a bit, but we are stillov massivelrprescribing. canada is number two in the world and canada also has a serious opioid problem. but we're almost double canada, so we have a very long way to go, setting a target ma sense, but what we haven't heard from the administration is how they intend to achie that target. >> brangham: it seems, sam quinones, when you talk about redung the number of the ocean
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of pills out thealre, it'so difficult in the absence of nkillersives to pai we're kind of stuck if we start pulling people off meds. >> one of the things they need to focus on and i think is an important to do is to focus on what insurance companies reimburse for. if you just simple riproblem trope the number of pilyols will have lots of people who will transitiono the black market. they need other pain treatments that don't involve narcotics. acupuncture, diet, variety of things like this, various therapie that insurance companies were reimbursing for before and they've stopped years ago whreen they fi well, the pills are cheap, easy, nonaddictive, so we're going to go that route. that's another thing that i would have liked to have heard is we're going to cus on insurance companies and what they reimburse for and what thei are not reursing for today. >> brangham: andrew kolodny, there's also the $6 billion that's been appropriated but we don't know the details of where
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tthat money's goigo, how it might be spent. if you were advising the president and he said, okay, g i' $6 billion, what do i do with it? what would you tell hi >> what we're hearing as a figure, $6 billion over two years, don't think it's an adequate amount, and we also need a multi-year commitmt. e obama administration, president obama on his way out the door, signed a law that has made $500 million available for the past two years, but even that money, because it's not a long-term commitment, the states have had trouble using that money because if you're going to hire staff to build out aea ent program, it's difficult to just hire them for one or two years. we need a cmmitment for, i believe, ten years of funding, and i would say abouta $60 billion commitment over the next ten years or $6 billion a year for ten years so that we can create a system where nomeone who's yoipped addicted can walk into a ceter and receive out-patient treatment for their yoipped addiction regardless of their ability to
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pay tore it. that treatment has to be easier to access than a bag f dope if we want to see overdose deaths coming dwn. >> brangam: andrew kolodny, sam quinones, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: facebook has been under fire for months now, for everything from its handling of fake news to the rus investigation and more. but as john yang tells us, this weekend's revelations ar leading to calls for much tougher accountabity. >> yang: judy, facebook is at the center of a firestorm on both sides of the atlantic. it was sparked when the "new york times" and the british newspaper "the guardian" icported that cambridge analytica, a pol data firm that worked for the trump campaign, harvested private information from more than 50 million facebook profiles, and that facebook never told the users. wspapers aid the firm us
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that information to target political messages. we are now joined by senator ama klobuchaemocrat from minnesota, who is on the senate judiciary committee. >> yang: i know earlier today you sent a letter to senator irassley, chan of the judiciary committee, with your republican colleague john kennedy of louisiana, calling for hearings and for markrg zuckero be called to testify. have you heard back there the chairman? do you have any sense whether the chairman is going to do that? >> well, we have heard he is considering it, which i would imagine he will do, and i thi i will talk to him personally omorrow. t i think it's important that we have a hearing abo cambridge analytica and get the head of cambridge analytica there, but also do a hearing focused on the social media heads because we've heard from their lawyers and lobbyists, and senator kennedy and i thursday before this all blew up had asked senat
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grassley for such a hearing, and the reason that we did, is one, we see this political season upon us and we believe that you need to have a full vetting of what's going on here. we have ads that don't have disclaimers, ads that don't have disclosuree we snt $1 billion in the last election. it's frecast to go $3 billion to $4 billion in candidate and issue ads in 2020, and there are no rules of the. ro so that's one thing. the second, of course, is this data'reech, and im tired of hearing it's not a breach. it doesn't meter whether someone breaks into my apartment with a o crowbar or the maager gives them the keys, if they take something out of it, it's a breach. >> yang: facebook says the privacy settings werede hon is it time for regulation to make it tougher on facebook to ?protect this informati >> yes, and that's why we want to have this hearing, because
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thpae are brilliant comes with brilliant people working at them, and we're tired of hearing, well, hy, it's the internetters and, so, anything goes. not anything goes when you hae foreign countries that are influencing our democracy, when up an indictment of 13 russians that feature the fact that they actually were buying ads, some in rubles, that trying to mess around in our election, an the just wrong, and i think we're going to need some rules of the road here. >> yang: talk tact rules of the road, the "new york time reporting that the chief information security officer at facebook is leaving te company after he was pressing for greater investigations and greater disclosure about what the russians were doing onok face if the guy pushing for greater investigatio greater transparency is out, what does that tell you about facebook? >> you know, i don'tnow enough details about that, but it's just another reason why we would like mark zuckerberg as well as the c.e.o.s of the other social media companies -- and i
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emphasize media companies -- to come before us. this this has been going on now for well over a year where we know there have been some major eaches and we alo know they have been opposing our bill that simply says that ave to abide by the same rules that any tv station does or my radio station in thief river falhe, minnesota,they run a political or issue ad. so far, they have been stonewalling it. all these social media companies have made some changes on their own, but it's going to be realln tough goin the election season. we know the russians tried to hack into our election infrastructure. i'm working hard and i hope we'll find out good news thi gs week oting the bill passed i have with senator langford and the money included in the omnibus bill to give money to stat to protect our election equipment. but the other piece of this is we cannot close our eyes andut our heads in the sand and say, oh, they're not going to do this again on smeed. i can't they are. in trds of dan coates,
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president trp's director of intelligence, they're getting bolder. it means b ads and more dark ads so why not put rules of the road in plac now. they clearly have told us over and over again, hey, trt us, is is our platform, we'll protect you. well, 50 million americans can now say, noprye, sothat didn't work out for me, my private data was given tou trmp campaign consultants when i didn't give pe permission for tt to happen. >> senator amy klobuchar of minnesa, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. great to be >> woodruff:e return now to >> woodruff: we return now to the dides inside the republican party over special counsel robert mueller's ongoing investigation. that means its time for politics monday with amy walter of "the cook polical report" and tamara keith of npr.
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welcome to both of you, "politics monday." the fire storm over the weekend, firing of andrew mccabe the weekend before he was going to retire, someone who was criticat f.b.i. the president unleashing a string of tweets, going directl afe robert mueller investigation. tam, what i want to ask both of you about is the interesting reaction among republicans. as we reported earliern the program, senator lindseah lindsr said if the president fires robert mueller it will be the beginning of the end of the trump presidency. others put up their hands and said don't fire him, let thest ination goes. not all republicans are saying this. how do you see this? >>that's right. as today went on we heard fromdi more inc john cornyn who is a member of the leadership on the republican side of the senate who said there would be consequences that possibly we can't imagine. there seems to be sort o a -- some republican lawmakers, especially those who i like to
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ca r asterisk retiring have come out and strongly said the president shouldotten after mueller, let mueller's investigation go forward, and others have been more cautious and quiet, and it seems to be a very different approach, and, you know, it's not clear which one will win out. there is a larger feeling of, well, hopefully, ty will never get tocthat point. coming from those repnubli lawmakers. >> right. and i think what we've seen oveo thse of trump's candidacy and his presidency, he says a lot of things on twitter.ot he makes af comments. there's a lot of bluster and threat. not all of them are followed through on. i think the bigger question is has the president's really incessan tweeting and perception that he's being unfairly targeted, that he continues to publicly discuss,
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has that had an impact on the way voter americans see t special counsel? at this point, it hasn't. those who think that the special counsel is conducting a fair investigation, whether you look at the pew poll o or maris poll, the majority of americans think it's been fair andrust the f.b.i. the only folks who believe that it's unfair is a very small proportion of t electorate, probably people who have supported the president all along. so 25% to 35% of americans thinking this is unfair. if you're the president, you're going to make constitutional question about mueller but there's also a politicalqu tion. there's not a whole lot of support for this president that this system or the process sun fair. >> woodruff: -- ifair -- is unf. >> woodruff: but there is a as most people, as aimia says, to most peoe this investigation looks fair and looks like it's going to work its way through the process, yet
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the president is attacking itn and no is holding him accountable for that, how do wee tand that? >> there's even a disconnect among the president's lawyers. you have john dowd part of his outside legal team saying pefully this thing ends. you have the president bringing on a new outside lawyer who hase deeply critical of the investigation, and then you hav ty cobb the internal white house lawyer dealing with the investigation who keeps saying, you know, the best way for this to wn d dow for the investigation to be completed, and we believe that there is no collusion and it will show that. well, that's juast -- that' conflict. does the investigation exonerate the president and does he want it to be credible so that if it does exorate him et will be a good thing and be taken seriously, or is he going to thsnd the next however mon just tearing it down and sort of working the refs as he does with a lot of things. >> woodruff: we'll have to
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wait to find out. amy you mentioned voters, a poll out " the "wall street journ said when asked who do you want to see elected to congress thiso year, democrat have a 10-point advantage in the so-called generic question democratersus republican. >> right. >> woodruff: what do we read into that? t re's this one -- you should never look at just one poll. issue nuer one. but if we look over the average ,f polls that have come out really in the last couple of weeks, what you're seeing is somewhere between 8 and 10-point democratic advantage on who would you like to see control congress or who would you like to vote for congress. in our "cook political report," for democrats to win the 24 seats to take control of the house, they need to see an 8-point or 9-point advantage on the overall national vote, so they need to win by that margin to have a chance to get that 24 seats.
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we've actually seenis play out, judy. it's not just what we're seeing in the polling, we're actually seeing it in real life in the elections. in the six special elections that have taken place in republican districts, democrats have outperformed their traditional showing by about a little over eight points. so we are seeing a pretty consstent theme here which hemocrats are doing that muc better this year than they would be in a different kind of environment. >> woodruff: and we're seeing signs of republicans are worried. the president is talking about issues the white hou thinks will help elections, opioids, trade. >> opioids, the president campaigned on it. when he was in new hampshire day which hapns to be one of the first in the nation primaries. >>t.oodruff: we noticed th the president pointed out there were a lot of voters there in the room, but this is an issue that matters to a whole a lot ericans, and the
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president is making a big effort to let everyone now that he is still working on it, that he hasn't fgotten. >> except that -- that's what's really interesting. this is an issue that cuts across almost every category and the majority ofm aericans say they want to see something done on this. i think you could get a biparents coaliti, but the president's decision to talk about sanctuary cities and building the wall goes and polarizes the issues where americans really do want to come toge>>er on it. oodruff: so tough all of these issues. amy walter, tamera keith, "politics monday," thank you both. >> you're welcome. um >> woodruff: tis a word we hear used to describe a range of experiences from fleeing a war zone to being bullied at school. author and journalist aminatta forna thinks the word is over-
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used, and in her humble opinion, it is time to find a new way of talking about terrible events. >> my cousin morlai once told me how he was nearly shot at a checkpoint after being mistakene for a during the civil war in sierra leone. in 1999, rebel forces invaded freetown. eorlai was trying to reach home when he came upon checkpoint. men and women suspected of bei rebel soldiers disguised as civilians were being separated from the crowd and taken aside for summary execution. morlai's life was spared when one of the soldiers in the firing squad turned out to be a hormer pupil. i thought about thor and relief of that moment and then i said: "well, you must have been a better teacher than a lot of mine." i caught morlai's eye and we both began to laugh.ht i've thobout that exchange many times. how did my cousigo from such a
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shocking experience to being able to joke about i my family has seen what feels like more than our share of inful, you might say traumatic, events. the murder of my father who was a political activist when i was 11, followed b25 years of political oppression, ten years of civil war and even an ebola outbreak. i'm often asked whether i was traumatized by events, and i have to answer, truthfully no. over the years i have written a great deal about people who have managed to endure events with the power to ruin lives, and this is what i have learned. the more a society tells you that you are irrevocably damaged by what has taken place, the more it becomes a self- fulfilling prophecy. the ability to shape your own narrative rather than having others shape it for you isul mately what matters most. the power of the story lies in the hands of the story-teller. as a writer i know this to be true.
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y most any experience can be re- shaped, any dest-imagined, if those who have lived it tell their own stories. today i look athe survivors of e parkland high school shooting in florida and i see kids who have begun to writeei own narrative. they wish to be seen, not a the victims iller, but the kids who changed a nation's gun laws, who transfmed their vulnerability into strength. people who frame the experience within a wider lentext are often most cap of withstanding painful events. they rarely ask "why me?", butee ratherhe world for the capricious and unfair place it can be, and they have a vision of their role in it. rsdividual temperament mat but societal attitudes play a considerable role in shaping oup ses. the suffering is real, but it may yet be withstood. and so the story of morlai's w li never: "i am the man who nearly died for nothing."
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rather, and in morlai's words, it is: "i am the teacher whose student stepped forward to save my life." >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. thank you and seyou soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> tragedy has a way of defining people. >> what the hell happened, teddy? ne they're treating this like a crime sce >> we tell the truth, or at least our versi of it. >> senator! when can we get some answers? >> we're into this deeper than we thought. >> these theatricsre not going to hold up in a court of law! >> what if i done? chappaquiddick. april 13th.
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