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woodruff: from presiden trump today, new accusations that the investigation into ties between his campaign and russia is a "witch hunt." at the same time, the whiteag housn insisted the president is not planning to remove special counsel robert mueller. meanwhile, "the washington post. reportedrump's attorneys have provided mueller with written accounts of key points in the investigation. it's an effort to limit the scope of any interview with the president. we'll have a fulreport, after the news summary. the capital city of texas is on edge tonight, after a fourth bombing this month. two people were wounded in the latest explosion, last night. syeda hasan of austin's npr station, kut, is covering the story, and spoke to us a short while ago.

syeda hasan, thank you very much for talking with us. what can you tell us about what's known about what happened? >> this latest explosion happened late sunday night, and we know that this explosive device was different than the evious three we've seen. it wasn't a package bomb. it was actually trigged by a trip wire placed along the side of a road, and these two youngwe men wh the victims, both in their 20s, were walking along the side of that rod in this residential neighborhood in southwest austin, when the tripped that wire and set off the explosive device. we know that both of those men did sufjfer inuries, non-life-threatening injuries. they were transported to the hospital, and they're said to be in good condition at this point. >point. >> woodruff: and what are police saying about a connection possibly between thibing and the other ones? >> police are saying they'reth operating unde assumption this latest explosion is related to the previous three we've seen throughout austin since march 2. there is a lot we don't know at this point but they're operating under the assumption as tta

investigation moves forward. >> but it's not because o any particular evidence? >> i haven't heard it tied to those bombings because of any particular evidence. i haven't likely heard police press the rationale behind that, but just the proximity of this to those other explosions certainly calls that into question. but, you know, there are aspects of this explosion that are very different. all of the previous threeav explosionsbeen packages that were left outside ofop pele's door steps, and they wereksriggered by fol handling those packages in some way. and bese that of that reason, ty seem to target those folks specificly, whereas this trip wire was really set in a way to where it could have been set off b anody and it really could have harmed and affected anybody that came across it. >> woodruff: and police made an unusual appeal directly to the attacker?, >> that's rigsterday chief brian manly at a press conference told thttacker that investigators are interested in talking with them. they implored the attacker or

attackers to reach out to mnvestigators and talk with the and help them understand what kind of message this person or persons is trying to send through these attacks. >> woodruff: and finally, syeda, how is theni com dealing with this? how are people expressing their concern is this. >> i think that a lot of folks are looking for answers. en these official attack happened, you know, people knew to be aware of suspicious packages. police really spread the word about that for people to not pick up suspicious packages or any kind of item that may look out of place., as of nothink that the nature of these attacks is really difficult to predictith something like a trip wire being set up in a residential soneighborhood. know there is a lot of concern, folks looking for answers, and authorities are just encouraging people to, again, report anything suspicious they come acrr oss, whett be a package or a bag or a backpack of some sort and be aware of their surroundings.>

oodruff: syeda hasan, with station kut in ausk n. thu very much. >> thank you.th >> woodruff: iday's other news, tech stocks helped send wall street diving. facebook led the way. it dro that a firm hired by the trump presidential campaign accessed the private information of more than 50 million facebooker the dow jones industrial average plummeted 335 points to close just under 24,611. the nasdaqell more than 137 points, and the s&p 500 slipped 39. republicans in pennsylvania suffered critical losses today na a long-running congress redistricting fight. both the u.s. supreme court d a panel of federal judges refused their request to block a newly drawn map deemed more fair, and more favorable to democrats. tomorrow is the deadline to file for the may primary ballot. the family business of jared

kushner, the president's son-i law, now faces state and local investigations for allegedlyfa ifying documents in new york. that's after the associated press reported kushner companiel routclaimed it had no rent-controlled tenants, when in fact, there were hundreds. today, a new york city council member condemned the practice. >> there's a conscious effort by kushner companies to weaponize construction for the purpose of displacing new yorkers from affordable housing units. and once we lose rent-regulatedw unitlose them forever. so as far as we're concerned, the buck stops with kushner mpanies. >> woodruff: the practice made it easier to bring in higher- paying tenants, and then, to sell the buildings for more money. jared kushner was running the business at the time. his company says it oued thpaperwork to another fir in the war in syria, turkey warned i campaign against syrian kurds is ready to expands to ahere u.s. troops are deployed.

that's after turkish fces seized the kurdish-held city of afrin. today, the syrian government demanded the turks l.ve the region meanwhile, the syrian assat on eastern ghouta, outside dascus, drove thousands mo people from their homes, and into government lines. back in this country, uber halted all tests of self-driving cars after an arizona woman was killed by one last night. it's the first known fatality caused by an autonomous vehicle. police in tempe said the woman was walking outside a crosswalk when she was hit. a human operator was in the car, but it was in self-driving mode at the time. mississippi has become the only state to ban abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. republican governor phil bryant signed the restrictions into law today. the state's lone abortion clinic says it will file a legal

challenge.rs and, lean the u.s. congress pressed today to finish a huge spending bill beforee. friday's deadl it totals $1.3 trillion and increases military and domestic fuing by 10%. the bill would fund the government for the rest of the fiscal yea still to come on the newshour: what the firing of as rew mccabe mer the mueller investigation. president trump lays out a plan to combat the opioid crisis. vladim putin's landslide victory in the russian election, and much more. >> woodruff: president trump seemed to drop his strategy of deferring to the special counsel. lisa desjardins begins our coverage on the latest attacks

coming from the white house. >> mr. president, should mueller be fired? >> desjardins: leaving for new hampshire today, president trump ignored shouted questions about specl counsel robert mueller russia investigation. it was a sharp contrast to daysf ttacking mueller on social media, including a tweet this morning declaring the probe "a total witch hunt with massive then this afternoon, the "new york times" reported the president mr. trump has hired lawyer joseph e. digenova, who has said the f.b.i. and justice department tried to frame mr. trump. meanwhile, lawmakers in both parties have warned the president: don't fire special counsel mueller. republican senator, and so, time trump alndsey graham: >> if he tried to do that, that would be t beginning of the end of his presidency, because we're a rule of law nation. >> desjains: congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence commiee: >> this would undoubtedly result in a constitutional crisis, and i think democrats and republicans need to speak outig

about this now. >> desjardins: and republican trey gowdy, who chairs the house oversight committee. >> let it play out its course, if you've done nothing wrong you should want the investigation to be as fulsome and thorough as possible. >> desjardins: to quell the furor, late last night, whiteho e lawyer ty cobb issued a statement that the president is not considering firing mueller. and white house legislative director marc short insisted mr. trump is frustrated about a probe he sees as wasteful, b remains compliant. >> we have cooperated in every single way, every single paper they've asked for, every single interview. >> desjardins: this flurry of reaction came after "the new york times" reported thursday that mueller has subpoenaed business documents from the trump organization, something mr. trump had called a "red" linelast year. by sunday, the president wasin attamueller by name for the first time, accusing hisg team of beacked with "13 pprdened democrats, some big crooked hillary suter and zero republicans."

in fact, robert mueller himself is a longtime restered republican. he was appointed f.b.i. director by republican president orge w. bush. mr. trump is partially correct, according to the "washington post," 13 of mueller's 17 staff lawyers have at one time registered as democrats. siryof the 17 donated to hil clinton in the 2016 presidential race. >> cruel, un-american and mean spirited. >> desjardins: in a related story, today on the house floor, democratic congressmve cohen of tennessee criticized the justice department's friday firing of former f.b.i. deputy director andrew mccabe, two days before he was set to retire. >> it was a sh across the bow other government officials that are doing their jobs: justice department officials, f.b.i. officials, law ens rcement officio love this country and put their lives on the line. >> desjardins: attorney general jeff sessions said he fired mccabe on the recommendation of

f.b.i. disciplinary officials for leaking to the press and not being candid with investigators looking into the matter. the president saw mccabe as abi ed foe and declared his dismissal "a great day for democracy."ma housrity leader kevin mccarthy defended mccabe'stu firing on ay. >> i know a lot of democrats are trying to make this a political problem, but it's not. >> desjardins: media reports now say mccabe kept notes on his conversations with president trump, and has turned them over to special counsel mueller. fosathe pbs newshour, i'm li desjardins. >> woodrf: to help fill in the picture of where things go form here: adam goldman covers the f.b.i. and national security for the "new york times." welcome back to the program, adam goldman you have been reporting on this. what went into the decision to fire andrew mccabe? >> well, essentially, what went into the decision was they looked at an episode wher mccabe tried to defend his

reputation involving a "wall street journal" story about the tif.b.i.'s investi into the clinton foundation. he was accused of trying to thwart that investigation. he as a deputy director was hthorized to speak with media and he made it known that's not what happened with the hillary clinton investigation. in the course of the.i. investigation, they asked him about the media disclosure and nged him for his response to those questions, and they found he had a lack of candor under oath, which is a summary dismissal at the f.b.i., and it's a big deal because f.b.i. agents are taught from day one to be truthful because their credibility is on the line if they have to testify in the case >> woodruff: i.g. is inspector geral at the justice department, and it's our understanding the report has not been made public yet.

>> no. we're still waiting. we thought it would be late winter, eay spring, but the report by the justice department oing to begeneral is a wide, wide big report on the actions of the f.b.i. in 2016, including decisions that fomer f.b.i. director james b. comby made regarding the hillary clinton investigation. his famous press conferenc july 2016 and letters he sent to congress. y >> you've have some understanding of how mccabe has handled this. he put out very tough statement when the firing was announced. how is he dealing with this and what can we expect from him going forward? as we just heard, it's indicated that he's kept notes about his conversations with the president. >> that's true. mccabe, comby and others have all kept notes and are going to be potential witnesses in that obstruction investigation if that ever comes to light

regarding mueller's probe into e president's actions. i think mccabe feels jundersiege. ned the bureau in 1996. many people believed heas an honest f.b.i. agent. some people didn't like the deputyons he made as director, operational decisions but it's a tough decision in any organization like the f.b.i., the c.i.a., they have to make the tough call, some people didn't like them. but he gave his life to the zyreau and to the country, and in these dizg events, he's hiw been accused of essentially lying and it cos his pension just hours before he was eligible to retire s onunday. >> woodruff: you cover the f.b.i., you talk to people allme the here. is there any kind of consensus about how this will affect the mueller investigation? >> well, you know, they'veck at the -- mccabe's credibility has been attacked. he's another keyt winess. the white house has attacked the

edibility of the former director comey, he is a key witness in this. you know, republicans on the hill have made text messages public between a fcouple f.b.i. -- you know, senior f.b.i. agent and a seen your f.b.i. lawyer who worked on the russia case. their credibility has now been attacked. an, you know, in the end, these people who playe important part in this f.b.i. investigation into possible russian collusion are all under attack and their credibility will bon the line and not clear how that will tort hurt or damage mueller's investigation. >> woodruff: adam goldman ofti the "new yores," thank you very much. >> woo from lisa monaco, who was the homeland security and counter- terrorism adviser to former president barack obama. she ha department's national security division, and served for three yes as chief of staff and counsel to robert mueller when he was director of the f.b.i.

lisa mono, thank you for ining us. is there any doubt in your mind that president trump and attorney general sessions were in their rights when they fired andrew mccabe? >> the attorney general was within his right to dismiss a member of the justice ofpartment, but we can't really judge the merit that decision because we don't have the inspector general report.i ll tell you, based on my nearly 15 years of expjueriencen thice department and being part of literally dozens of and reviewing dozens of inspector neral reports, it highly unusual to not have the report itself made public en such a public action as happened late friday night takes place. so we have to ask ourselves why is that thea case, whys there a rush to take this action 26 hours befor before andy mccabe s

due to retire? why was the report and investigation that was focusedc on e separated out from the broader investigation and accelerated from the broader investigation of the conduct of the f.b.i. on the hillary clinton email case? so all of these are, i think, very significant questions. >> woodruff: wel as i eunderstand it, that's the attorney general's decision to make you work wih andrew mccabe in your time at the f.b.i. what was hi reputation then? >> mccabe has and had a very good reputation. i worked with him when i was at the justice department, the f.b.i. a when i was in the white house. he, in my experience, is a man of very high integrity. he has devoted his lifto public service, and he was literally on the other end of the phone at al hours of the day and night when it came to terrorist atacks, terrorist threats. this is a man who has devoted his life to publicervice. he is a career civil,serva

and, you know, this is an issue that i think we really do have to wonder why was the timing done in this way. >> woodruff: i also want to, aof course, ask youbout the mueller investigation. you worked very closely with bob mueller when he ran, was headf the f.b.i. when this firing took place over theeekend, andrew mccabe put out a statement he thought the d president hane this? connection with the russia investigation. as all of us know, the president's been very critical of the mueller investigation. based on everything you know, does the president have a point en he says this is an investigation that should have never gotten underway in the first place? >> well, i don't think the's any merit to that contention. this is an investigation that was begun after the president fired james comby. this was an investigation that -- and the specialouns

was appointed by rod rosenstein, president trump's deputy attorney general, and a career prosecutor himself. at, you know, none of t really stands up. and i think, judy, what this shows is really a pattern of an effort to distract from the special counsel's investigation and the results that he and his team are putting forward. and it also shows something else, which i think is very damaging to the institutions of the department of justice and the f.b.i., which is the president not observing the long-time norm of having a wall between law enforcement and isionse department dec both on cases and in personnel matters as was the case with the action against andy mccabe on friday night, not observing that wall between the white house ana the justice ment. and the reason you want to observe that wall is so there is no question, no taint or cloud over decisions made at te justice department and,

unfortunately, that's now what we have. thminute the president started tweeting and publicly calling for andy mccabe's ouster, there's now a taint over anyep justice dartment decision that follows frothat. >> woodruff: one other thing. the original intent of ts investigation, as we understand et, was to look into whether there was a connection between the trump camn and the russian officials, the 2016 caaign. how far can robert mueller stray from that original purpose in this investigation? >> well, i think, if you look at the charge gien to the special counsel as laid down by rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general and the acting attorney general for purposes of this matter because attorney general sessions is, of course, recused, the original charge to special counsel mueller and his team is to investigate the matters asyo set forth but also matters and issues thaset ari from that

investigation. so we also have the statement of rod rosenstein of just a few weeks ago recently where he said he does not find any fault, or words to that effect, with how special counsel mueller is conducting himself. and, of course, any expnsion of the probe would have to be approved by rod rosenstein, the depp at the attorney general. >> woodruff: well, lisa monaco, so much to talk about here. we thank you very much for joining us today. >> thanks for having me. >> wdruff: a white house spokesman said today the trump coministration was "not surprised by the o" of yesterday's russian presidential election, which renewed vladimir putin's rule for six more years. that spokesman said no congratulatory phone call has en scheduled between putin and president trump. as john yang reports, the

russian leader enjoys enormous support at home based in part on his confrontations abroad with the west. >> yang: it was a surprise to no one: vladimir putislclaimed a lae victory sunday night, at a rally just outside the kremlin walls. >> ( translated ): we will think about the future of our great motherland, about the future of our children, and by doing so we r success. destined yes? >> ( translated ): yes! >> yang: with nearly 77% of the vote, 65-year-old putin's re-ti el to a fourth term makes the former k.g.b. officer russia's longest-serving leaderj since dictateph stalin. putin, who's previously said that politicre opposition ens to "de-stabilize" russia, called for national unity.ed >> ( transl ): we need to make a breakthrough. we c do it, we have all the reasons for this, to think that that, while we do this, different political powers should not be run by some group interests, not by clan interests, but nationa

interests. >> yang: many russians celebrated putin's w13 igher than his 2012 re- election. >> ( translated ): people confirmed that they trust the president and his policies. >> yang: russian election authorities are investigating a variety of reported violations, including employers pressuring workers to vote, and, as seen in this security camera footage, widespread ballot stuffing in at leasfive districts. but even russians who did not support putin said there was no question that he would win. >> ( translated ): i think i to be honest, there was no one else to vote for. i think it was all predictable. >> yang: international election observere agreed. >> a chothout real competition as we have seen in this election is not a real choice. >> yang: putin's main challenger, opposition leader navalny, was barred fro running, because of what he saya are poliy motivated corruption charges after he called for a national boycott. tvalny applauded those russians who stayed home fr polls.

ated ): it is solutely clear that for the first time we could unite a large number of people who with full consciousness, not because on a sofa, decided not to take part in this disgusting game. y yang: opposition groups rallied in solidar moscow today. >> i wouldn't call an election at all, its particular elections it's designed not to have ach ce. >> yang: arkady ostrovsky, russia editor for "the onomist," says navalny was excluded to give putin the landslide victory he wanted. >> so the process s set up in a way to exclude any competition and so that putin could establish himself as a sort of national unchallenged national leader with no altertives or other candidates. well you know it was in other words it was a performance. the people who turned up at the polling stationsthlso know that is a performance. >> yang: ostrovsky says putin's broad popularity stems largely from his "confrontation with the

west." that includes ongoing russian military intervention in ukraine. and in syria, where it's helping syrian president bashar al-assad prosecute a brutal civil war. >> i think if anything, we're going to see some escalation because the system depends on this escalation, the system andh way his legitimacy his popularity depends on this image of russia being a besieged fortress under attack. >> yang: meantime, britain, france, germany and the u.s. are blaming russia for a chemical weapons attack on a former double agent in britain. yesterday, putin called the accusations "nonsense." and last week, the trump ministration slapped new sanctions on russian individuals and entities, for alleged russian election meddling in 2016, an against american energy grids and infrastructure. ostrovsky says putin is undeterred.

li>> he needs to create cos to have this backlash from the west powers which then in time allow him to justify himself as the defender of russian intests. h >> yang: f part, putin yesterday sought to assure russians, and international watchers, that he's more statesman than instigator. ( translated ): build relations with all the countries in aye world in ahat is constructive. >> yang: russia's current constitution bars putin from running for a third, consecutive presidential term in 2024. when asked if he planned to reform russia's constitution again to allow himself, additional tertin said he was considering it. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang. w druff: president trump announced his plan to combatde nationpioid drug addiction today, calling for stronger punishments on drug dealers,

including the death penalty. william brangham repor >> brangham: the preside h flew to newpshire to make his announcement, a state he once called "a drug-infested den." it h highest death rate from opioid overdoses.ch but in mter today, mr. trump vowed more aggressive prosecution, including the deatf penalty for ckers. >> iwe don't get tough on th drug dealers we're wasting our time, just remember that, we're wasting our time. and that toughness includes the death penalty. >> brangham: federal law already allows for executions in cases that involve murders committed dung drug-related crimes. the human rights group "harm reduction international," based in london, says the united states and 31 other countriesen have the deathty for drug crimes. only seven routinely carry out executions. earlier this month, mr. trump cited two of those, singapore and china, as examples. >> but if you go to singapore, i

said, mr. president, what happens with your drugs? no. we don't have a problem, president. i said, really? we have a zero tolerance. and he is not playing games. these guys don't play >> brangham: beyond the death penalty, the president also called for other initiatives to tackle t opioid crisis: ey include: new laws making it easier to impose mandatoryen enimum ses on opioid drug dealers, increascation and awareness programs, broader access to medically-assissted treatment options, and aggressive prosecutions of doctors, pharmacies and opioid nufacturers. >> our department of justice is looking very seriously into bringing major litigatioth against someese drug companies. >> brangham: the president is also setting a goal of cutti opioid prescriptions by a thead ct three y, and boosting research in non-ade painkillers. opioid prescriinions have de somewhat in recent

years, but an average of 1 americans still die each day from opioid-related overdoses. the centers for disease control and prevenon reports opioids killed more than 42,0 americans in 2016, the most evee rded. many states, like new hampshire, are overwhelmed. last month, the granite state's largest drug rehab provider announced it closing for want of funds. while congress promised $6 billion over two years to help battle opioids, lawmakers have yet to decide how and where the money will be spent. we take a closer look at what the president's new proposals could mean for the opioid crisis in,he u.s., with sam quinon journalist and author of "dreamland: the true tale of america's opiate epidemic." and dr. andrew kolodny, he's co- director of opioid policy research at brandeis university's heller school and is executive director of physicians for responsible opioid prescribing, a group working to reduce the overprescription of painkillers.

andrew kolodny, i would like to start with you first. could you just give me your reaction to thelsropohat the president laid out today? >> well, what we heard from the president, i think, a list of ideas, some of which sound good, others which sound lik se atep backward. what we still have not received from the trump administration is a plan of action, and we've yet to hear president trump request funding from congress, a multi-year, multi- billion-dollar funding request to address the problem, until we build out a treatment system that doesn't really exist yet so that people who are opioid addicted who can access treatment more than opioids, until we get there we'll experience more deaths. >> brangham: the annncent

was death penalty for drug traffickers. what do you make of that is this. >> facetiously, i was wondering is he referring to doctors, referring to drug compa salesmen and executives? this epidemic is unlike anyh other inch it begins with those folks and not truck traffickers and street gangs and mafiosos. i welcome the idea the president is getting bind this. ielcome there are ideas a lot of people have been calling for for a long time. i find the idea of a death penalty is like the silver bullet, the idea of, well, this will solve our problems, this is how we got into this blem in the first place. everybody wanted a silveran bulletanswer to all human pain, and the answer was narcotic painkillers, an supposedly they're nonaddictive. i think as a country we really are pling with fire when we begin to look to easy answers. it's a complicated problemit needs a lot of complicated and

small solutions, lcross the country, and what it also does is divert attention from the place where the work is really going on, which is in a lot of counties where folks have just banded together. it's beautiful to watch. it's exhilarating, very american thing to watch, i love it. you go to these counties and people are coming together, county task forces, wor learning to work together. for so long we have been so isolated, knees groups have not -- these groups have not worked toether so well. i hoped he would say i'm going to these areas, tell them what h great job 're doing and put the focus on them, not me. >> brangham: andr kolodny, let's talk specifics. one of the things the president mentioned is he wants tout opioid prescription by a third in three years. is that an importt thing to do? how realistic is that? what did you make of that part of the 'sesideproposal? >> i think it's a worthwhile goal, and it can be hard to understand why it's still

important to focus on the overprescribing problem when deaths involving elicitly synthesized opiates like fentanyl are soaring. but it is important. 're not going to be able to tring the yoipped addiction epidemic to an e unless we present more americans from becoming yoipped addicted. we no the vast majority of addicts, this addiction began taking prescription opioids. since 2012, prescribing has cme down a bit, but we are still .ssively overprescribi canada is number two in the world and canada also has a p serious opioblem. but we're almost double canada, so we have a very long way to go, setting a target makes sense, but wat we haven't heard from the administration is hw they intend to achieve that target. >> brangm: it seems, sam quinones, when you talk about reducing the number of the ocean

of pills out there, it's also difficult in the absence of alternatives to paikiillers, we'r of stuck if we start pulling people off meds. ey needof the things to focus on and i think is an important to do is to focus ons what iance companies reimburse for. if you just simple riproblem trope the number of pilllls, you ave lots of people who will transitiono the blacket ma they need other pain treatments that don't involve nrcotics. acupuncture, diet, variety of things like this, various therapies that insurance companies were reimburng for before and they've stopped years ago when they figured, well, the pills are cheap, easy, nonaddictive, so we're going to go that rote. that's another thing that i would have liked to have heard is we're going to focus on insurance companies and what they reimburse for and what they are no reimbursing for today. >> brangham: andrew kolodny, there's also the $6 billion that's been appropriated but we don't know the dls of where

that money's going to go, how it might be spent. ifou were advising the president and he said, okay, i've got $6 billion, what do i do with it? what would you tell him?t >> w're hearing as a figure, $6 billion over two anars, i don't think it' adequate amount, and we also need a multi-year commitment.is the obama admation, president obama on his way out the door, signed a law that has made $500 million available for the past two years, but evenbe that moneyause it's not a long-term commitment, the stas have had trouble using that money because if you're going to itre staff to build out a treatment programs difficult to just hire them for one or two years. we need a commitment fori believe, ten years of funding, and i would say about a $60 billion commitment over the next ten years or $6 n bill year for ten years so that we can create a system where meone who's yoipped addicted can walk into a center and receive out-patient treatment for their yoipped addicti gardless of their ability to pay tore it.

that treatment has to be easier to access than bag ofope if we want to see overdose deaths coming down. brangh: andrew kolodny, sam quinones, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: facebook has been under fire for months now, for everything from its handling of fake news tohe russia investigation and more. but as john yang tells us, this weekend's revelations are leading to calls for much tougher accountability. >> yang: judy, facebook is at the center of a firestorm on both sides of the atlantic. it was sparked when the "new york times" and the british newspaper "the guardian" reported that cambridge analytica, a political data firm that worked for the trump campaign, harvested private information from more than 50 million facebook profiles, andeb that fk never told the users. the newspapers aid thenfirm used

thatmation to target political messages. we are now joined by senator amy klobuchar, a democrat from minnesota, who is on the senateu ciary committee. >> yang: i know earlier today you sent a letter to senator grassley, chairman of the judiciary committee, with your republican colleague john kennedy of louisiana, calling for hearings and for mark zuckerberg to be calleto testify. have you heard back there the nsairman? do you have any whether the chairman is going to do that? >> well, we have heard he is considering it, which iould imagine he will do, and i think i will talk to him personally about it tomorrok i th's important that we have a hearing about cambridge analytica and get the head of cambridge analytica there, but also do a hearing focused on the social media heads because we've heard from their lawyers and lobbyists, and senator kennedy and i thursday before this all blew up ha asked senator grassley for such a hearing, and

the reason that o did, e, we see this political season upon us and we believe that you need to have a full vetting of what's going on here. we have ads that don't have disclaimers, ads that don't have disclosures. we spent $1 billion in the last election. it's forecast to go to $3 billion to $4 billion in candidate and issue ads in 2020r and are no rules of the road. so that's one thing. the second, of course, is this data breech, ad i'm red of hearing it's not a breach. it doesn'thmeter wether someone breaks into my apartment with a bro crowbar or th manager gives them the keys, if they take something out of it, it's a yseach. >> yang: facebook the privacy settings were honored. is it time for regulation to make it tougher on facebook to protect this inesormation? >>and that's why we want to have this hearing, because

these are brilliantompanies with brilliant people working at them, and we're tired of hearing, well, hey, it's th internetters and, so, anything goes. not anything goes when you have foreign countries that are influencing our democracy, when upan indictment of 13 russians that feature the fact that they actually were buying ads, some in rubles, that trying to mess around in our election, an thato the justg, and i think we're going to need some rules of the road here. >> yang: talk tact rules of the road, the "new york times"a is reporting tthe chief information security officer at facebook is leaving theco any after he was pressing for greater investigations and greater disclosure about whatr thsians were doing on facebook. if the guy pushing for greater investigation, greater transparency is out, what does that tell you about facebook? >> you know, i don't know enough details about that, but it's just another reason why we would likerk zuckerberg as well as the c.e.o.s of the other social media companies -- and i

emphasize media companies -- to come beforus. this this has been going on now for well over a year where we knowhere have been me major breaches and we also know they have been opposing our bill that simply says tht they have to abide by the same rules that any tv station does or my radio station in thief river falls, miruesota, when they a political or issue ad. so far, they have been stonewalling it. all these social media companies have made some changes on their own, but it's goine really tough going into the election season. we know the russians to hack into our election infrastructure. i'm working hard and i hope we'll find out good news this week on getting the bill passed i have with senator langford an the mocluded in the omnibus bill to give money to states to pro ote election equipment. but the other piece of this is we cannot close our eyes and put our heads in the sand and say, oh, they're not going to do this again smeed. i can't they are. in the words of danoates,

president trump's director of intelligence, they're getting bolder. it meaanns bad add more dark ads so why not put rules of the road in placew. they clearly have told us over and over again, hey, trust us, this is our platform, we'll protect you. well, 50 million americans can now say, nope, sorry, that didn't work out for me, my private data was given to trump campaign consultants when i didn't give pe prmission for tht to happen.or >> senmy klobuchar of minnesota, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. great to be >> woodruff: we return now to >> woodruff: we return now to the divides inside the republican party over special counsel robert mueller's ongoing investigation. that means its time for politics monday with amy walter of "the cook political report" and tamara keith of npr.

welcome to both of you, "politics monday." the fire storm over the weekend, ring of andrew mccabe the weekend before he was going to retire, someone who was critical of the f.b.i. the president unleashing aet string of tw going directly after the robert mueller investigation. tam, what i want to ask both of you about is the interesting reaction among republicans. as we reported earlier in thepr ram, senator lindse lindsey gram said if the president fires robert mueller it will be the beginning of t end of the trump presidency. others put up their hands and said don't fire him, let the investigation goes. not all republicans are saying this. how do you see this? >>that's r wght. as todnt on we heard from whre including john corny is a member of the leadership on the republican side of the senate who said there would be consequences that possibly we can't imagine. there seems to be sort of a -- some republican lawmakers, especially those who i like

call r asterisk retiring have come out and strongly said the president should gotten after mueller, let mueller'sst ination go forward, and others have been more cautious and quiet, and it seems to be a very different approach, and, you know, it's not clear which one will wiout. there is a larger feeling of, well, hopefully, they will never get tocthat point. coming fm those rublican lawmakers. >> right. and i think what we've seen over the course of trumpndidacy and his presidency, he says a lot of things on twitter. he maes a lot of comnts. there's a lot of bluster and threat. not all of them are followe rough on. 'sthink the bigger question is has the presideeally incessant tweeting d perception that he's being unfairly targeted, that he continues to publiy discuss,

has that had an impact on the way voters, americans e the special counsel? at this point, it hasn't. those who hink that the special counsel is conducting a fairst ination, whether you look at the pew poll o or mais poll, the majority of americans think it's been fair and trust the f.b.i. the only folks who believe that it's unfair is a very small proportil of the eectorate, probably people who have supported the president all along. % so 25 35% of americans thinking this is unfair. you're the president, you're going to make a constitutional question about mueller but there's also a political question. there's not a whole lot of support for this president that this system or the process sun fair. >> woodruff: -- ifair -- is unf. >> woodruff: but there is a disconoct. as most e, as aimia says, to most peple this investigation looks fair and looks like it's going to work its way through e process, yet the president is attacking it

and no one is holding him accounta, e for thw do we understand that? >> there's even a disconnect .mong the president's lawye you have john dowd part of his outside legal team sayingh hopefully thisg ends. you have the president bringing al a new outside lawyer who has been deeply critof the investigation, and then you have e cobb who is thternal white house lawyer dealing with the investigation who keeps sayingyou know, the best way for this to wind down is for the investigation to be completed, and we believe that there is no collusion and it will show that. well, that's just that's a conflict. does the investigation exonerate e president an does he want it to be credible so that if it does exonerate him et ll be a good thing and be taken seriously, or is he gog to spend e next however months just tearing it down and sort of working the refs as he does with a lot of ings. >> woodruff: we'll have to

wait to find ou. amy you mentioned voters, a poll journal"he "wall stree said when asked who do you want to see elected to congress this year, democrats now have a 10-point advantage in thee so-called gec question democrat versus republican. >> right. d> woodruff: what do we rea into that? >> there's this one -- you should never look at just one poll. issue number one. but if we look over the aveofrae polls that have come out, really in the last couple of weeks, what you're seeing is somewhere between 8 and 10-point democratic advantage on who would you like to see control congress or who would you liketo ote for congress. in our "cook political report," for democrats to win these4 s to take control of the house, they need to see an 8-point or 9-oint advantage on the overall national vote, so they need to win by that margin have a chance to get that 24 seats. we've actuayy seen this p

out, judy. it's not just what we're seeing in the polling, we're actually seei it in real life in the elections. in the six special elections that have taken place in republican districts, democrats have outperformed their traditional showing by about a little over eight ponts. so we are seeing a pretty consistent theme herewhich is democrats are doing that much t bettis year than they woul be in a different kind of environment. >> woodruff: and we're seeing signs of republicans are worried. the president is talking about issues the wte house thinks will help elections, opioids, trpie. >>ds, the president campaigned on it. when he was in new hampshire today which hapfpens to be one the first in the nation primaries. >> woodruff: we notthed that. president pointed out there were a lot of voters there nn the room, but this is a issue that matters to a whole lot of americans, and the

president is making a b eigffort to let everyone know that he is still working on it, that he hasn't for.gott >> except that -- that's what's really interesting. this is an issue that cuts across almost every category and the majority of s america they want to see something done on this. i think you could get a biparents coalition, but the president's decision to talk aout sanctuary citid building the wall goes and polarizes the issues where americans really do want to come oogether on it. >> woodruff: sogh all of these issues. amy walter, tamera keith, "polics monday," thank you both. >> you're welcome. >> woouff: trauma is a word we hear used to describe a range of experiences from fleeing a war zone to being bullied at school. author and joualist aminatta forna thinks the word is over-

used, and in her humble opinion, it is time to find a new way of talking about terrible events. >> my cousin morlai once told me how he was nearly shot at a checkpoint after being mistaken for a rebel during the civil war in sierra leone.99 in rebel forces invaded freetown. morlai was trying to reach home when he came upon the checkpoint. men and women suspected of being rebel soldiers disguised as hevilians were being separated fromrowd and taken aside for summary execution. moai's life was spared whe one of the soldiers in the firing squad turned out to be ap formil. i thought about the horror and m relief of thent and then i said: "well, you mushave been a better teacher than a lot of mine." i caught mlai's eye and we th began to laugh. i've thought about that exchange many times how did my cousin go from such c

shocking experto being able to joke about it? my family has seen what feels like more than our share of painful, you might say aumatic, events. the murder of my father who was a political activisthen i was 11, followed by 25 years of political oppression, ten years of civil war and even an ebola outbreak. i'm often asked whether i was traumatized by events, and i have to answer, truthfully no. over the years i have written a great deal about people who have managed to endure events with the power to ruin lives, and this is what i have learned. the more a society tells you that you are irrevocably damagea byhas taken place, the more it becomes a self- fulfilling prophecy.y the abil shape your own narrative rather than having others shape it for you is ultimately what matters most.po thr of the story lies in the hands of the story-teller. as a writer i know this to be true.ny

almostxperience can be re- shaped, any destiny re-imagined, if those who he lived it tell eir own stories. today i look at the survivors of the parkland high schoolsh ting in florida and i see kids who have begun to write their own narrative. they wish to be seen, not as the victims of a killer, but the kids who changed a nation's gun laws, who transformed theirto vulnerability trength. people who frame their experience within a wider context are often most capable withstanding painful events. they rarely ask "why me?", but rather see the world for the capricious and unfair place can be, and they have a vision of their role in it. individual temperament matters, but societal attitudes play a couriderable role in shaping responses. the suffering is real, but it may yet be withstood. and so the story of morlai's life was never: "i am the man who nearly died for nothing."

rather, and in morlai's words, it is: "i am the teacher whose student stepped forward to save my life." >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbsur newsho has been provided by: >> tragedy has a way of defining people. >> what the hell happened, teddy? >> they're treating this like a crime scene. >> we tell the truth, or at least our version of i. >> senator! when can we get some answers? >> we're into this deeper than we thought. >> these theatrics are not going to hold up in a court of law! >> what if i done? chappaquiddick. april 13th.

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