captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff.r on the newshnight, a shakeup at the department of veterans affairs. i speak to now former v.a. secretary david shulkin about tat led to his departure and challenges ahead f huge federal agency. then, mourning and protestn sacramento. an unarmed black man shot to death by police is laid to res amid calls for justice. plus, a new museum exhibitionio draws atteto the role native americans play in our nation's identity. >> for most people they don't see or really think about indians, yet they're sded by indian imagery, place names, and have connections with indians on a kind of deep, emotional level. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.

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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: and individuals. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: a funeral today in a city on the edge. services were held in sacramento, california for 22- year-old stephon clark. he was shot and killed by police earlier this month, leading to days of protests. we'll have the full story, after the news summary. in the day's other news, russia retaliated for the expulsions of more than 150 diplomats by the u.s. and other nations.

moscow tossed out the same number, including 60 american diplomats. it also closing the u.s. consulate in st. petersburg, after the u.s. closed the russian coulate in seattle. it follows the poisoningsif a former r spy, in england. more funerals today inhe russian city of kemerovo. a shopping mall fire killed 64 people there on sunday. 41 of the dead were children. today, at a local school, teachers and classmates piled stuffed animals and hung pictures of those they'd lost.cu one woman d officials of "washing their hands of it and shifting responsibility." families in venezuela are demanding answers afd r 68 people d a fire during a jail riot. it happened wednesday in the town of valencia in carabobo state, 100 miles west of caracas. family members of inmates clashed with police outside the

prison and officers fired tear today, people were still angry. >> ( translated ): there was a riot here inside. i came quickly. ecen i arrived here, the cruelest news weved was that they burned them, they killed them, they assassinated them because they were locked up in a jail cell with a lock. they are not crazy enough to burn themselves.er theyburned. they were killed here like dogs. >> woodruff: the united nations has called for a prompt investigation into the deaths. in egypt, early estimates from this week's presidential ection suggest incumbent abdel fattah al-sisi will win 92% of the vote. but as ballots were counted today, state media reported voter turnout was only about 40%. at's despite government payments and even threats. nobel peace prize winner malala yousafzai returned to pakistan day. it was her first visit since shot by taliban militant in 2012, for promoting education for girls.

she met with pakistan's prime minister in islamabad, and said she had longed for a homecoming. >> ( translated ): for last five years i have dreamed that i can set foot in my country. whenever i travel in plane, cars i see the cif london, new york. i was told just imagine you are in pakistan. it was never true. but now today i see, i am very happy. >> woodruff: the visit is taking place under hey security, and expected to last for four days. back in this country, a maryland appeals court agreed on a newwh trial for a mae murder case was featured in the podcast "serial". adnan syed has spent almost 20 years in prison for the killing of an ex-girlfriend. today's ruling upheld a lower court that vacated syed's conviction, because his lawyer failed to cross-examine a key witness. and, wall street clotid out a

volale week. the dow jones industrial average nts to finish at 24,103. the naaq rose 114 points, and the s&p 500 added nearly 36. the markets will be closed tomorrow, for good friday. still to come on the newshour: i speak to now former v.a.d secretary daulkin. unrest in sacramento after a controversial police shooting. the new orleans mayor on his new book about confronting the south's confederate past, and much me. >> woodruff: president trump's cabinet and staff purge continued yesterday, with the firing of veterans affairs secretary david shulkin. mr. trump announced on twitter that his white house physician, vy rear admiral ronny jackson,

would be nominated for the job doctor s years.eld for three shulkin's ouster had beenr rumored me time. it came after an ethics investigation over some questionable travel and expense issues and after reported internal strife at the agency over the outsourcing of medical care to private providers. doctor shulkin criticized the administration this morning in the new york times, alleging he was fired because he disagreed with plans to privatize much of the v.a.'s functions. it is the government's second- largest department with more than 300,000 employees and an annual budget of $200 billion.wi i spok doctor shulkin a short time ago. >> i was simply told that he wanted to mae a change an of course, as a cabinet member, you serve at the pleasure of the president, so that's all that i was told. >> woodruff: and why do you think you were removed?

>> well, i think that the president has strong feelings about the way that he wants the cabinet made up, and this was as personal den that he felt more comfortable going a different direction, and i certn.nly respect that decis >> woodruff: you said in an interview earlier today with np that the political appointees at the veterans administration wanted to speed up, in effect, privatization, and they wanted to do it so much at they undermined what you were trying to do in reforming the v.a. who are these people, and what exactly were they doing? >> well, i think there's no doubt that, ien became secretary, i made it clear that the veterans administration should not be a political department, that it was important that w do things in a bipartisan way. i believe that's session fortunately our national security to get things done. people that came to the department of veteran affairs as

political appointter the election, i belie, wand to see the department move further towards privatization and no remain in a bipartisan, moderate approach and, therefore, saw me as a threato their political philosophy. >> woodruff: but you werere aly moving -- had moved the department in that direction, as you say. a number of the sevices provided by the v.a. were contractedut to private entities. what more did they want? did they want full privatizatio can you describe what they're asking for? >> absolutely. as you know, judy, i joined the administration under president obama and i have been consistent from the day i started that, in order to fix th i problemn the department of veteran affairs, that it can't do it alone, itor needs towith the private sector, and i've consistently driven us towards strengthening the v.a. internally at the same time working closelyh our

private sector partners. what i think that the polital appointees wand to see was not to strengthen the v.a. and just to increasingly allow veterans unfettered access to the privatt sect be able to go there whenever they wanted it which, of course, is a nole goal, but we have 9 million american veterans that we're caring for and we haveo make sure we're honoring our responsibility to them and that means also investing and keeping the v.a. a strong organization. >> woodruff: well, i guess some of this is hard to understand because president trump has talked repeatedly about wanting to arengthen the v.a.,nting better service force our veterans. but youe saing, in essence, he's sided with the folks who you say areoi to weaken what the v.a. is doing. >> no. you know, i think you're right. the president has been very consistent that he wants to seem the situationrove for veterans and i believe i was following his instructions and we were making that progress. i think that these metical

appoines have agendas of their own, and we're pushing ia direction that didn't necessarily come directly from the president and, you know, this was a concern that i triede to ad inside the ornization, but, you know, think that the political chaos just got to be so much that the president felt that he needed t go different direction. >> woodruff: but he sided with them, didn't he,m in reoving you? >> well, i think, ultimately, they wanted to se a change in the secretary, and the president ultimately madthat decision, but i don't believe that there was direct communication between these polical appointees and the president. >> woodruff: do you think your success u -- sucssor dr. ronny jackson, do you think he's going to be moving in the direction the political appointees want, moving faster in the rection of privatization. >> i've never talked to

dr. jackn about his policies but i certainly hope he is going to continue the work that i have been doing to move the department to transform it in a better way and i will do everything i can to help dr. jackson succeed in that role. >> woodruff: what may be unclear to ople who d't follow these issues closely is you referenced in your piece in the "new york times" today, you said you're convinced privatization is a political issue aimed at rewarding select people and copanies with profits even if it underminesar cofor veterans. so there is something underhanded going on here. can you name some of these companies or people who would profit? >> i just don't see privatization as a good thingve foerans, and i think those that are really sticking to a political ideology are doing this for otheerasons, like financial reasons, don't have the interests of veterans at heart, and i think you just have do talk to the veterans groups to hear that, a that's something that i did as

secretary. i stayed very close to those who represent the 9 million americans who get their healthcare in v.a. and the man more million veterans who get their services and benefits through v.a., and i think that the people that are pushing towards privatizati are really representing only a small minority of vetans in this country. >> woodruff: one other thing, david shulkin, and th the inspector general at the veterans administration found that in thatrip you took to europe last year that there were expenses that you basically made the government pay for that they said should have been personal. you mentioned the chaos a minute ago. did your own actions contribute to what happened herete ulti? >> well, judy, let's talk about that. this was a meeting that's been going on for 43 years that every v.a. secretary has attended with 40 hours of interaction with ouh allies fight all the wars

together and the only gov expense was a single co-chair affair for my wife who s invited to this conference. she's a physician. and that was approd by our ethics department. everything was done exactly as i should have. six months later tspector general found that a staff member had not done the paperwork correctly, and when that report came out, i paid every penny of that coach air fare back and i think this was about the politics and not the stance of. the iss >> woodruff: has president trump spoken with you since thisd? happe >> no. >> woodruff: david shulkin, the former secretary of veterans affairs. thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: tension hcontinue to rh in sacramento,

california today, almost two week after city police killed a young african americng man dun investigation into local vandalism. stephon clark was shot dead in the backyard of a family member's home. his funeral was this afternoon yamiche alcindoras this report.>> lcindor: gospel music echoed and tears flowed as family and friends gathered at stephonra clark's futo say a final goodbye. >> i'd always come down to bug him and be like, "what do you want to be when you grow up?" he told me the only ing he ever wanted to be was a great dad. >> alcindor: delivering hisid eulogy alongclark's brother, reverend al sharpton isshed back against the white house's claim thathooting was a "local matter." >> no, this is not a local matter. heey have been killing young black men all overountry and we are here to say that we

are going to stand with stephon clark and the leaders of this family. it's time for us to go down andp st this madness. >> alcindor: stephon clark's confrontation with polic 1came on march8. >> male subject who ndoke some car s, he's now hiding in the back yard. >> alcindor: after reports of a gman in a hoodie vandaliz cars, a police helicopter with an infra-red camera spotted the 22-year-old. two officers, one white, oneac blk, confronted clark outside his grandparents' meme. >> show our hands. stop! >> alcindor: their body camera footage showed them cornering clark, and shouting that he had a gun. >> show me your hands! gun! gun! gun! >> alcindor: all told, they fired 20 shots. but clark had be holding a cell phone, not a gun. ing quickly sparked unrest that, at times, has brought parts of sacramento to a near standstl. >> stephon clark! stephon clk! >> alcindor: on tuesday, clark's brother stevante marched into a

city council meeting and jumped up on the dais in front of mayor darrel steinberg. >> the chief of police got my brother killed. he don't care.ws he so emotion at all. >> alcindor: yesterday, stevante clark issued an apology to the mayor. later, he was visibly distraught at the funeral. >> i am stephon clark. >> alcindor: there have alsong been a demonstrations preventing fans from entering sacramento kings' basketball games. in turn, the players on sunday donned warm-up shirts with slogans that said "accountability. we are one." and "#stephonclark." anwhile, police chief daniel hahn announced california's intorney general will oversee the investigatio the shooting. >> our city is at a critical point right now and i believe this will build-- help build faith and confidence in the investigation from our community. >> alcindor: sworn in last august, hahn is sacramento's first black police chi he took over as the city adopted major reforms after the 2016 police killing of joseph mann, a

mentally ill black man. clark's deathas re-ignited the national debate on race and policing and follows other recent high-profile cases. they include the deaths of eric garner in new york, michaeln, brown in ferguissouri, tamir rice in cleveland, and samuel dubose in cincinnati in each case, police were either not charged, or charges were dropped.th week, the state of louisiana also announced it wilr not two white officers in the shooting of alton sterling. nc died in a struggle outside a baton rouge convenstore in de16. the white house lear yesterday that it has no plans to intervene. >>ntlcindor: back in sacrame there have been appeals for calm, but officials are bracing for new protests. for the pbs newshour, i'm yamiche alcindor. for mo on all this, i am joined by benjamin crump, the attorney representing the family of sthon clark. thanks for joining me. at stephon clark's funeral today, his brother seemed visibly shaken. talk to me a little bit about

this family's grief and the grief of so many families that you've represented. >> well, yamiche is very, very emotional, as you would imagine having to buny a loved oe, brother, son, grandson, a father who was killed in the backyard of the house that they all grew up ins just so emotional, especially for his grandmother, who her bedroom is less than five feet away frm where her grandson was executed. so they're dealing with emotions and grieving if their own unique ways. >> reporter: and the city released video we just showed ol stephork's last moments. there are some who have watched that video and said he should have surrendered to police and followed their instructions. what do you make of tsem who ak those questions and what do you see from a legal perspective when you watch that video? >> when i watch the video, i see, number one, stephon clark had no weapon, he had no gun, he was no threat to the police, he

was running from the police. the police gave him worning. they gave him no identification of who they were, and they also gave him no humanity after they executed him. i mean, they shot him 20 times and, when you think ab that, they could have done so many things differently that was withs their policy than to the most lethal use of for possible, an execution. and, so, for those people who say, wl, this happened because he ran from the police, well, what about oher instances where non-minorities and non-african-americans actually murdered people in schlyls, actuut bombs in people's houses in austin, texas? the police followed them for hours, and, yet, they didn't shoot not one bullet,ut an unarmed african-american man with a cell phone is unjustify unjustifiably and unnecessarily executed by police bullets.

>> reporter: this keeling has egg united a new national conversation about this. white house pss secretary sarah sanders was asked about this. she says stephon clangrk's shooeath was a local matter and that such incidents ould be handled by local authorities. what do you think of her comments? >> i think they are vey problematic and troubling. we need our leaders to see young african-americans especialan african-ameren as part of the american fabric and the fact that in the last two years 75 african-american men have been killed b police unarmed, now that's a problem not just here in sacramento, not just in chicagqu illinois for awn mcdonald's, not just tamir rice in cleveland, ohio, not with terrence crutch who had his hands up on video with a helicopter in tulsa, oklahoma,

it is an american problem, and we have toolve this prblem together if our society receiver going to heal. >> reporter: and you mentioned several different cities or incidents where it happened. in sacramento, they released the video pretty quickly after asephon clark died. the mayor therealso said he's going to look at policing practices and look at police training. the investigation i still ongoing, but has the city of sacramento's actions at all started to address the clark family's concerns? >> well, yes and no. they are very happy that the police tried to be transparenty some way bleasing the video. however, you must remember the day of his execution thanks put out a narrative we believe is false that says stephon clark had a guthat's why they had to execute him in the manner they did. then they walked that back. the next day, they said, well, stephon clark had a tool ba or crowbar and that's why they had to execute him. then t y walked thatback.

finally, they came clean and said he had no weapon at all, all he had was a cell phone. >> reporter: thank yoso much for joining me. we'll definitely folsw thi case closely and we appreciate you coming on tonight. >> tnk you, yamiche. >> woodruff: city officials, in particular the mayor and police chief, have been the focus of much of the public's oenrage. hari sasan has that perspective. >> sreenivasan: darrell steinberg has been mayorinf sacramento 2016 and joins me now.nb mayor stg, first to address the concern that mr. crump just had, why the different narratives so soon after the shooting? >> well, the investigation is just beginning here, and, you know, i know sometimes, in the moments and days after an horrific event like this, there's a lot of informationth gets out that may or may not be the case, but i want tell you that we are not going to wait yo t until the end ofhe

investigation here many sacramento to do aorough review of the policies, the protocols and the training. it's one thing to not pre-judge whetheor not these officers acted within the scope of the policy, the law and the training, but it's a who another thing to ask whether the otocols and trainings themselves need to be corrected. we're going to be very, very aggressive abut this because, regardless of whether or not there will be legal culpability here, the outcome was plain wrong. a 22-year-old young man liked this shot have lost his life in this way. and, so, we are going to be diligent. >> sreenivasan: mayor steinberg, unfortunately, this is not a new occurrence. there are cities around thiuns y that have tackled this and tried to figure out what sorts of policy preriptions they may make to recover and maybe prevent this from

happening again. so what's taken sramento so long? >> sacramento is in some ways on the forefront. weave one of te most progressive video release pontcies in the cou. our chief of police released this video within three days of the shooting. a year d a half ago our polls yand the policies throughout the country e rarely if ever to release videos. we are one of the first cities to have all our sfic actually equipped with body cams. we have a lot more work the do, there's no questn about it. certainly, the question is is there not a better way? and thanswer has to be,es, there has to be a better way, and the better way is around deescalation, it's around less lethal for,, of course it i and that's exactly what we're .oing to pursue. >> sreenivasan: ayor, if it wasn't for the death of joseph mann, in that case two years ago, you h wouldn't had this body cam video release policy. i know this is an ongoing investigation, but why did the officers in this particular case

uess the muteon on those cameras and why can't we hear o whatthat tape? >> i don't know. certainly there's a lot of audio that you can hea but it was turned off at some time, and that's a question that i hve, that the community has and will be answered in the investigation. certainly the question we'll beu asking ar next public hearing is simply is it ever appropriate to mute body cam? if the answer to that question is no, i think we'll already have the answer, but we're going to is ask that question, certainly, as one of the key troubling aspects of the case. >> sreenivasan: yor, you've also said you don't believe your police are racist but youev beimplicit bias might have played a role in this, so are you willing to implement implicit biatraining for your officers like indianapolis didth afteshooting of aaron bailey there last year? >> we are strting and absolutely must intensify our implils it bias tra wining. hereat i know. i have a 21-year-old son.

i never would have thought having to tell him as a teenager to keep his hands in a 10-2 driving position if he were approached or stopped by a police officer while dring his car. that is what african-american mom and dads have to do withn their kids from all strata of society, i hear thisrom everybody -- implicit bias, of course, is real and to dey n is not to do everything we have to do to prevent this from happening. >> sreenivasan: youhead a 10-year-old kid testify at city hall that he was scared of police. cahe was pointing to thie in tears and saying 20 shots over a cell phone. how do you deal with that deep-seated probm? >> you take this moment and you turn it into a movement. you take the anguish, the traum and ne, and you -- pain and you make real change. sacramento has a wonderful civic culture, and if there's any city

that could turn this horrific event into permanent real change, it's the capital city of california, and that's exactly what we intend to do. >> sreenllasan: mayor dar steinberg of sacramento, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: big money in the sneaker business. american indian history intertwid with our culture today. and a brief but spectacular take from the journalist behind the new york times hit podcast, "the daily." hebut first, we talk to an mayor who has had to confront a troubling history of racism in his city. mitch landrieu spearheaded the removal of four confederate monumentin new orleans. he recounts the cultural and politil battle to bring them down in a new book, "in the shadow of the statues." we spoke earlier today and began

with his responsto the situation in sacramento. it's a very painful example, again, that we haven't gotten it right yet in the country. first ofll, most law enforcement officers show up for work, they put their lives on the line, they risk their lives, but there have been too many examples over the years of police officers noteing properly trained, trained to shoot first and ask questions later, and then there's a lot of grey area. but one of the things that's been universally true over the past couple of years that we have been dealing with is how to investigate these things so the community feels there's been an honest assessment of whether or .ot it was done appropriate and i know they're going through this in sam meanto. we used to go through this in new orleans a lot. we have under federal consent to grief aid for years, all of our police officers wear body cams. lery time there's a poice involved shooting the area is cordoned off. we have independently folks not on the police department who helpnvestigate the matter so the public knows about it but clearly there's a rupture that

existed between the police departments and the community and you have to work really hard to puthat back together. >> woodruff: when you came up with the idea after talking to wenten marsalis after taking down confederate statutes you made an enormous contribution. >> after new orlomns suffered ay trina, ike, gustov, and we were in the midst of rebuilding the cities, as we rebuilt the hospitals and the river front we wondered how to get ready for the 300th anniversary. and the public space came into full view. when i asked wenten who is a great historian to help me curate the anniversary he said, you might think about taking the statutes down and because they don't reflect who we are and have you ever thought about them from the perspective of the rican-american community, and that set off an explosion in my

head and i thought about why aney were there and that beg suggesting we take them down. >> woodruff: they came down last year. it became a national discussion. >> correct. >> woodruff: the president goint lved in one point, said sad at see the history and gre culture of our country ripped apart by taking them down. >> it's interesting bause these confederate monuments were put up well after the civil war ended and as everybody knows or should be able to acknowledge that the civil war was fough to destroy the united states of america not to unit it, and it was fought for e cause of slavery and it shouldn't be hard to state. so what i say in the book is i make a distinction between having these monuments you have th places of reverence where we can revere men for what they did because what they did was wrg ong and rememberat they did so we never repeat it, and i think it was a very important step in the process the country has to go through for racial ronciliation. >> woodruff: yet, it's 150 years after this country fought that civil war, it's 50 yers after the civil rights movement.

>> correct. >> woodruff: why did it take so long? >> and a couple of years after had an african-american president. >> woodruff: yes. e goes to the big point. the fact that the speech i ge resonated across the country means we have a problem that't haeen reconciled and we've not done a good job of it, so whether it's police-community relations or other particular issues we're confronveng, we o work through the issue of race that we obviously have not worked through vwory well. >>ruff: the country keeps doling with it in different ways. >> well, the truth is we don't deal with it at all. we actike, oh, we had the civil war and civil rights, let's get over i and move behind. and the african-american community says we have more to ta about and more to do. we have tons of examples of it. one of the things the book ies to do is create an open invitation for people to re-think their story and reflect on whether or not the history that was told was actually the true history much less the whole history. i think whethey do ththey will recognize it as a country, thsithe div is a strengthor

america, not a weakness and people want to re-litigate tat now and i think we need to restate it clearly so people know where we stand.re >> woodruff: eople accepting this? >> we're certainly talking about it. i thint of people are being moved to think about it because when you put your self--- yourself in somebody else's shoes you can think abut things differently. >> woodruff: the president is very much against taking down the statues. how has he affected theer cotion around race in this country. >> he is certainly not the cause of our problems but is a sympto of td his uncareful language he uses helps acerbate it. he has given people who are e owed white supremacists the feeling now is tme for them to come out of the shadows and speak forcefuy that whites are better than african-americans and this national natis that's manifesting itself is okay and i think whether you're a repubcan, democrat,

conservative or liberal, one of the things we should agree ab as americans is there's no room for white nationalism in america. that has taken people into very dangerous places historically not oly in this but other counguies. we can awhether to approach the world through tax cuts and what opposition on war an has been, but the notion that white people are superior to black or brown people, that's not who we are as americans or who we aspire to be. >> woodruff: your term asis mayop in may of this year. outot of conversation a whether you will run for president in 2020. what is your thinking about it? firstall, i don't intend to do that. i'm coming to an end of a 30-year careernd i have been essed to in the last eight years to serve in one of thea great cities ol time and i'm thankful to the public to help us stand and celebrate our our 300th anniversar i hear the chatter but everybody is just desperate to think about what's coming net because i think people are tired of the chaos that we have. but there will be lots of otheri

people whl do that. i don't intend to do that now. in politics you never,ay nev you don't know what the future holds, but that's not something i plan on doing. what do you think the pluses and minuses are for a southerner, a southern democrat in 2020 coming off this administration? >> it's interesting, we always trhato guess wt comes next and everything is unpredictable. nobody cld have predictedpr ident trump or president obama, and you know as being a veteran journalist something will happen we don't have any idea about relating to a world crisis, nmade, and it will change the way people think. so i think it's way too early to try to gain that out at this point in time. >> woodruff: we thank you for coming in. mitch landrieu, mayor of new orleans. the book is "in the shadow of the statues," a wite southerner confronts history. >> thank you for having me >> woodruff: thank you.

>> woodruff: now to the world of collectible sneakers where buyers pay hundreds, sometimes thousands, of dollar limited edition shoes. tonight our economics correspondent paul solman profiles two so-called "sakerheads": one a major collector, the other a seller. it's part of his series "making sense" which aays every thur >> this is 3000 pairs of sneakers. >> reporter: mark "mayor" farese has been collecting sneakers for so long, he needs more than this baseme to house his hallowed 3600-pair collection. >> it's the storage unit, the apartment, the house. it's probably a million dollars in sneakers. >> reporter:t new york's sneakercon, we covered the billion-dollar secondary market for sneakers, 20,000 sneakerheads buying and selling rare kicks for hundreds, even thousands, of dollars. >> do you got change? >> reporter: we pointed out the drivers of this market: brand loyalty, alternative identity, aesthetics, and perhaps above all status.

mayor farese is a vivid case in point. >> i'm the imelda marcos of the hood, becausyou know she had all the shoes and i have all the sneakers. >> reporter: mayor is an" influencer people want what he endorses. in part because they drool over his collection. er so there was episode on entourage one day e turtle wanted a pair of sneakers that were unobtaible and they were online and he couldn't get it. and then vince made a phone call and he got him a special shoe. >> $5000. >> for sneakers? >> they're not just sneakers, e. they're wearable art. >> i made yoan even more limited edition. one of one. >> this is also the entourage shoe. but instead of ture's name on it ,it has my name. it says mayor. this is real crocodile. >> reporter: crocodile? >> this is croc. this was the last time that nike ever used the exotic materials on a shoe. >> reporter: mor's got 28 pairs. >> i have the only ones in existence. these are unobtainable. you can't get them. >> reporter: obtaining the unobtainable ups mayor's status

in sneaker culre. how does he get them? from friends and connections who sell him limited releases at retail. but nike and other bras also give them to him for free. >> the fact that i'm popular because of sneakers-- a lot of companies capitalize on that and they want to give me product because they know i'g to post it on social media or i'm going to wear it and i'm going to be seen in it >> reporter: at 45, mayor farese may seem an unlikely market leader for teenage sneakerheads. but, he says... >> i became the o.g., i became the... >> reporter: what is o.g? >> original gangster, or original gentleman. whatever they call. e it's a term earment for older people. i only have a 151,000 followers on instagram. but, my 150, 151,000 followers are core.'r theye following me because i'm mayor and they love what i love. so, i have a cult anllowing. that cult following means a lot to a lot brands. >> reporter: and it's not just sneaker brands that get exposure. this is a louis vuitton supreme pillow. >> yes. >> reporter: how much ishis thing worth? >> they sold for $600. they're probably going for,5

a pop now. louis vuitton was not selling them to the general public, iwo ded up with every piece in the collection. so, i pride myself on that. >> reporter: then there's his rolex collection. >> i like these nice things because i couldn't afford them as a kid. i grew uvery poor. i'm talking cereal with water, not lk, mayonnaise sandwiche wishing i had ham and cheese on it. i know my moms did what she could do, single parent.in and when ily made something with my life, and did something with my life, these are my trophies. >> reporter: and you always wanted them because it would be a sign that you weren't poor. >> it all started for sneakers with me, my mother brought mpaa chea of sneakers called the mark 5.'s division of spalding. c it was aheap, cheap sneaker. i thought i was cool because my name is mark. t i go back neighborhood, i got ridiculed. laughed off the block. >> reporter: raully? >> like,ed off to the block to the point where i was fighting. i was so angry and crywag, that

therfists flying. that's how angry i was. and i vowed that would never haen again. and that's where it became for me with my sneakers. >> reporter: how does he afford it all? >> let me show you theld's best sneaker cleaning product on the planet. >> reporter:arese is a well- paid "brand ambassador"-- at sneakercon, for a eaker- cleaning product called "crep protect." >> keeping your sneakers clean is a must in the sneaker community, because you always wa to look fresh. u always want to look good. >> reporter: he also hosts digital videos, runsis own marketing firm, all gigs that grew out of his love of sneakers. >> power les! all righ >> reporter: mayor actually has the back-to-the-futurehoe, the nike air mag. >> i think i paid $4,800 on the auction. it's probably selling for 15,000 right now? >> reporte and even that's not his most prized pair. >> this is a jordan 4 undefeated. this is one of the holy grails ers.ne 72 pair in existence.

$25,000 this shoe's going for. i've been offered 20,000 used off my feet. i can take this shoe, bend it and crack it in half like this and somebody will still offer me 25, $18,000 for this shoe. >> reporter: which may explain why he was willing to let me try them on.o can i just dit the way i do with normal sneakers? >> yeah. you can slip in there. go ahead. don't be afraid. >> reporter: well it's $25,000 sneakers. >> stand up and let me see. it mates your clothes! >> reporter: i tell you i swear i would wear those. but i wouldn't buy them. these undefeateds were going for $55,000 new york consignment shop stadium goods. and with that, meet the second star of our story, sneaker reseller young-ru"z" john, a.k.a. "23penny." those not lucky enough tbe mayor rely on the likes of z, who got the reselling bug from himom. >> she used to flip ipads. >> reporter: she used to flip ipads? >> yes, sir, because there was a shortage of ipads being sent to china when it first released here in the u.s., so what we thuld do, we would go to circuit

city, we would ge in the morning and then wait on the ldad. and then she wou send all those to china. >> reporter: z has been selling since he was 18 online, and now also from an showro outside nashville which doubles as his warehouse. he sells almost $2 million worth a year. and where d these come from for example? >> i can't quite tell you that exactly, paul. >> reporter: becauset's your trade secret? >> that's my trade secret. yes. >> reporter: resellers like z are notorious for snapping upte the st sneakers as soon as they get to stores, before the blic has a shot, as z acknowledged in a documentary. f >>or the people who think i'm a villain i just want to let them know that i'm trying to be the best villain there is. >> reporter: why are you the bad guy? >> i'm the bad guy because while everyone else is wan chance to buy a pair of sneakers for retail price, i'm sitting hre with a good amount of sneakers that i've gotten that other people might not really even have access to. >> reporter: thehaneaker market

created a technical competition of its own, featuring bots, r example, computer programs that complete an online purchase in the blink of an eye. >> when joe schmo gets on s phone on adidas.com at 10:00 o'clock, he's typing in all his credit card information digit by digit and his billing address, and the guy with the bot, he is buying 10 pairs at a time in matter of nanoseconds, and whene joe schm done, the shoe has already sold out. >> reporter: right. and this happens with ay shows, for example. they're all these then counter algorithms to try to, are you a hun as opposed to a bot? >> yeah. that's why we have reseller like me who have access to a lot of the goods that people have trouble accessing and whatnot. so that way, they'd rather just now pay the extra and en it's hassle-free. >> reporter: but you're like the person who is reselling "hamilton" tickets, but you got the "hamilton" tickets because

you knew somebody who knew somebody who'd gotten "hamilton" tickets as opposed to having a bot that bought up all the "hamilton" tickets on broadway for the next six months. >> right. so yeah, in a sense, i'm still a ticket scalper, but my approach to that is different. >> reporter: a ticket scalper with a shoe for even the unlikeliest of customers. >>ook at that. that's a carpe diem look right there. >> reporr: and i actually bought two pair, for a few hundred dollars. for the pbs newshour, this is economics correspondent paulng solman repor from nashville and new york. >> woodruff: now: history, mythology, imagery. a museum exhibition our eyes to the symbols of native american life and culture all around. jeffrey brown has our story. >> brown: a 1948 indian brand

motorcycle, one of the sleekest machines you're likely to see. clothing with the logo for your local sports team. and perhaps in your refrigerator right now, a box of land o'lakes butter. >> she's holding t butter, right. she's on her knees and she's holding the box that she's on. so it recedes into infinity. t re's something really profoundly weird going on. >> brown: en more profound, just how pervasive native imagery is embedded into theic am subconscious. that's according to paul chaatem smith, ar of the comanche naibe and co-curator of an exhibition at thonal museum of the american indian: >> it's really this paradox. the country, 330 million people today. tione percent of that popu is native american. for most people they dy 't see or reaink about indians, yet they're surrounded by indian imagery, place nes, and have connections with indians o

kind of deep, emotional level. >> brown whether we know it or not. >> whether you know it or not. b wn: to that end the exhibition is titled, simply, "americans," and shows us indians everywhere, in all aspects of life: overhead: a prototype of the frtomahawk missile, on loa the nearby air and space museum. on one large wall, clips from films and tv shows. a side room takes us through the strange history of pocahontas, known, but not really known, by all. around the gallery, headdresse everywhere, in signs and advertising. the image of the native american or indian; the museum uses the terms interchangeably; as a symbol of ruggedness or bravery, but often with no discernible connection to the products, as in ads over the decades for p calumet bakider.

>> an indian in a headdress has nothing to do with baking powder. yet it sometimes works because i think it talks about a kind of americanness and quality that people say, "ok, well that baking powder is pretty good, because there's an indian in a headdress in it." and note that it is a red, white and blue headdress. >> brown: a history antermination and appropriation of lands, and yembrace of american indians as a symbol authentically american. there's certainly explicitlyry racist imabut it's a pretty small minority of it. because the whole way that indians have been objectified in ane united states is about a kind of noble indea, which is a different kinof caricature than one that's explicitly vicious and that we're dirty d backward and unintelligent. but obviously it is, even though it's flattering in some way, it's still another kind of a stereotype. >> brown: it's also, of course, about images and myths, and not

about the actu people themselves. smith says this distinction began in the late 19th century after the protracted armed conflict between natives and settlers, and later the u.s. army, had come to an end. >> it was like there was a big meeting of the american collective unconscious to say, now we're going to freeze indiand in the past. love indians, but the actual indians that are on the wservations in 1895 or 1910, or the actual india might living in l.a., living lives like other people in angeles, they're not going to apar in entertainment. >> brown: one area of continuing contention: sports names and logos. in recent years some schools and universities have stopped using native american nicknames. earlier this year the cleveland indians announced they will stop ing the cartoonish chief wahoo logo on their uniforms. busthey're keeping the indi name. more controversially, thewa

ington redskins are keeping their name.f smith is a fans local team, but not its name, though he understands the strong feelings. >> i have great empathy for fans, especially here in d.c. fans don't choose the name of the team, right. a rich owner chooses it and in the case of these names it usually goes back a century sometimes. i get why people don't, aren'teo pleased when s like me comes in and says, "you know, this name is a dictionary- defined slur," as it is in d.c. but if you come in and try to take it away from somebody, i get that that's, you you feel attacked. >> brown: no one would name a team the redskins anymore, but not long ago victoria secret dressed model karlie klose like this, only to apologize after criticism. the museum wants people to think

about the images around them and what they convey. wvisitors are encouraged te of their own experiences. and for the country as ahahole, paul c smith says there's something more at stake. >> there's this challenge to the united states idea of itself to have to acknowledge that the united states natproject came about at great cost to native people. as it did to african americans. so what do we think about that? that's what this exhibition is saying. how do we come to teth that? should americans just feel guilty. i don't think so. i don't think anybody alive it's about all americans inherit this, how do we make sense of it? and a starting point is kind of looking at indians in everyday s fe. >> brown: for the wshour, i'm jeffrey brown at the national museum of the american indian in washington.

>> woodruff: now, our weekly brief but spectacular series where we ask people about their passions.ni t, journalist michael barbaro. he is host of the "new yorkdc times'" t, "the daily," which is currently among the top three most downloaded shows on itunes. >> when i was a political reporter at the times, you'd have all these moments where you wish that a camera crew or a audio team were with you and it was 2011 and i was in the las vegas hotel of real estate developer donald trump. his wife melania was in the nearby bedroom wearing a bathrobe because he asked me to meet her and she was feeling reticent about it because she was wearing a bathrobe, d he just said some of the most extraordinary things.e e i remember best being that the way he thought about same sex marriage and whether he how he thought about whether to use the new kind of putter that

men where using in goli and he said,n't wrap my head around using this. i can't make that change." d that was what he compared to his relationship with same sex marriage. he wasn't there yet. my biggest objecti to the kind of contemporary forum of news and news storytelling is that it often feels like the, whether it's a tv segment or radio news segment or newspaperr it's kind of beginning in the middle, there's a government shutdown. there's a crisis in myanmar, there's a ballistic missile that's being tested by north korea, but in almost every case, the real story requires the clock to start way, way earlier. and what the daily does, i think uniquely, is say no, no, no, wei are really to start this story where you need it to begin to understand it. the thing we lovelto do is

genusurprise people in the morning. so, you've had three or four days of coveragef president trump, of congress, of the shutdown. l morrow you're gonna wake up, we're going to tu 30- minute, operatic tale of tonya harding and her entire life. the idea of the daily was to r change tationship between the consumer of the news and the presentation of the news. we did an interview the night that the united states started to bomb syria after it had determined that chemical warfare had been used on the syrian people by bashar al-assad and we called up one of our dearest colleagues, helene cooper at home while she was reporting the stor and we asked her a pret provocative question, did these missile strikes on syria by theh u.s., di mean we're at war with syria? and instead of filibustering or pretending that she knew the answer, helene said, michael ist on't know that. i don't have an answer to. inevitably when you're transforming a story and makingm it and generating all the

intimacy of sound and letting someone really hear a journalist grappling with a story, you inevitably-you have a different relationship wat journalist. your bond with them changes. your understanding or mind changes and that relationship epens. so that's that not so secret, secret mission of the daily. i'm michael barbaro this is my brief but spectacular take on the daily. >> woodruff: you can watch additional brief but spectacular episodes on our website, pbs.org/newshour/brief. on the newshour online, we follow up on last night's segment on the overuse antibiotics with an explainer on the costs of antibiotic resistance and whe we go from here. that and more is on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening with mark shields and david brooks.

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