♪ tonight on kqed"newsroom," california officials that support sufficie-- support toug to gration policies went talk toonald trump and governor brown looks to crack down on the blackmarket for marijuana. we begin with politics. on wednesday, president trump and members of his cabinet met with southern california officials to discuss a shared view on immigration policy, maimlypposition to -- mainly opposition to californ policies. the president had tough words for dangerous individuals entering the country. >> you would not believe how bad these people are. these are not people. these are animals and we are

taking them out of the coattry level and at a rate that h has never happened befo because of the weak laws they come in fast, we get them, we release theem we get gain. we bring them out. it's crazy. >> mayor troy edgar attended the white house meeting asid san diego pervisor. lo t law sb-54 prohibits state and local police from helping federal authorities with immigration cases in many cases. it was the first of several ci e c and counties to pass similar resolions. santa clar areita will file a c saying that it's unconstitutional. mayor edgar, nice to have you on

the program. >> nice to be here, thank you. >> what is your biggest take away from the white house meeting you attended this wee >> my biggest take away that i felt tit was action oriented, w had the right hpeople, and he the senior members of his staff and those that could execute anything that we were able to take on. >> during the meeting, president trump called some undocumented immigrants, "animals," what was your reaction when you hard the oucomment? >>know what? being in the room, i heard him talking about that in the context of the m-13 gang members. you know, i think a little bit different perspective, is if you are the president of the united states and you have secr service around you, you could to make a be abl statement like that. as a city council member, i will say their b ombres. >> do you have a lot of bad ombres, as you say, or dangerous

undocumented immigrants in los ala had a alamitos? >> no, we don't, it's long been aut constnal law issue. it's about the checks and balances of the federal hastate and local government. we feel the state over stepp in a city, where a charter city in the state of california, as a charter city, we have the right to raise tacks and have our r own ise taxes and have our own police departments and set priorities or thelice locally. when sb-54 was passed, it sa, look, as a matter of law, we will not have you guys do the something ordeal with the federal government when it comes to u.s. immigration issues.we that's wherdrew the line. it had to do with the oath of office, why would we choosetw en honoring a state or federal constitution.

what we are trying to do is maintaining control of our own police department. >> in the meeting, the president suggested that oakland mayor, libby schaff, be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, due to when she issued aublic warning of a pending immigration aid in our community. we asked t mayor about this, and here's what she said. >> i do not see how it can be illegal to inform people of the law. if the you were to receive the same type of information again today, would you do the exact same thing again? >> under the exact same s.rcumstances? i do not regret what i did. >> so, mayor edgar, what is your reaction to what mayor schaff did and her continued defense of it? >> yeah, you know what i don't how she defends that. it' honestly, her statement like tha that motivated me if

first time that i hea her say she was on p ommoral ground. this was supposed to be evaluation or raid by i.c.e. to net criminals off the street. i think we to look out for the resident s of the city, and not illegal immigrants that are criminals and providing them a safe haven. it's bad policy oner sidef this. and quickly, as a mayor yourself, you think the oakland mayor, libby schaff should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice? i do. i think absolutely. i think that she owes her city a duty and i think that if she is not prosecuted by the u.s. attorney. i think her city should she of if it's the right person to be electedo be their leer going forward -- their leader going forward. >> during the meeting this week at the white house that you had with the present. you mentioned the aclus lawsuit agains losalamitos, and you asked him for funding. wh do you need funding and what do you plan to use it for? >> ll, wh we, went in to the

lawsuit, with he went in to it with -- we went to it with eyes wide open. it cost money, and we hhad to m sure that we could afford whatever the cost would be. took action to harness this. like i told the president, sometimes being first can be pretty expensive and the aclu has ten, different lawyers focused on this. they are going to full-court press, and you know, we know thys is a v unique land mark issue, really, aroundns tutional and the city's rights issues. they have potentially could ende up in upreme court, and really, for us to kind of good the distance, we need to be abl to see if we can depepd on anier sort of federal assistance going through it, whether it's districect support of staffing or other support. they said, we need to help them look afr this.

so, we got together, we laid ouw proposals oat potentially could work, and then, also, just trying to s makee that i knew the next day it would be lobbying on capitol hill and talking to a bunch of other gr csman to see if there was anything i could do specifically around appropriations and judiciary committee.y, >> ok thank you mayor edgar for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me on again. >> and staying with politics, rsllots went out by mail to registered vo for the up coming statewideim py election on june 5th. the cdidates for governor will be narrowed down and the winners going on to november's election. donald trump endorsed john cox, there's five statewide ballot measures. one of them requires money raised from a gas tax and vehicle registration fees to be spent only on transportation projects. another measure would allow homeowners to get tax relief for

investing in rain water capture system. joining me now to talk about it is our own ifkqed, cnia politics and government team. senior editor, scoff schafer. andreport thank you to all of y. primary et to the election in a moment. i'm curious of your reaction of the mayor's comments. let's begin with you, scott. >> o you are the maya town of 11,000 people. su are the sheriff of fresno county anddenly you are at the white house with the president. it's live on television. it has to a little heady thing to find yourself in the middle of that. first of a, you have to kind of accept that there aviews are sincere. people at the white house, generally speaking, believe that the sanctuary state law is a good thing. it hamperser their ability tok p the public safe. i was struck by the diskeb, between the rhetoric coming out

of the white house and the president in particular, saying, this mayoryi g, we don't have a problem with crime, and you know documentedimmigrants. it's sort of the problem that is around this issue where you have the presidentineally hard saying that these are hardened criminals, bad ombres r whatever have nt to say, and you local officials saying, it's more of a principal thing. it's not the reality of the crime that we are ced about. >> yeah, it's going to be an interesting one from a legal rspective, right, we heard that the aclu going to sue them over thegrdinance of ing the sanctuary state law. i was at the republican state convention, they had a session on this. alked about the issue of first of all, if you are not a charter city the way they are, cities cannot sue. it's a legal question and the resource issue, that is something that i hefrom a lot of folks, you should not expect everyone totick their neck on out. and i think that, you know, that questionof funding and sort of resources, will be interesting

to watch politically too, because, you know, do their residents even if they oppose a sanctuary state law want to laend their tax d fighting it. i have a hard time believing that the department of justice ill fund the defense of the city's lawsuit. >> and that really seemed to be mayor's edgar's priority in the meeting. getting money out of it. before he wentto the white use, he had a go fund me page started to try to fight the aclu looking for more of a sustainable source in the fight. >> that may be a better place to go. >> unlike daca, where there's solid support for the dreamers or t wall, it's fairly strong opposition. you know, this issue of sanctuary state and city is down the middle. when you are down to places liko orange nty, or fresno. it's very much split. so, itmay be a short-term political issue for the republican party locally. 's not going help them statewide, especially john doco

or travis allen. >> those are the two rcan candidates for governor. you brought up daca, scott, i want to ask you about that as well, because we have congressman jeff denim, he is leading the fortunate to force a immigration -- he is leading a movement to force a vote i'm z -- a vote on immigration. >> we ave talked to him, th have always had this ability. it speaks to concern, and frustesation on both si of the aisle, of how little, i mean, not jubviously under trump, but has been done around immigration. it's a top of mi issue again this year. so, i think that, that is sort ofthe, this is desire to in a way play both sides. they are going to come out hard against thery sanct states and push a dreamer thing. to scott's point about the sort of political expediency of this, if you are in denim's district,

it will probably be a goodbet. in orange county, it may be a good bet now, but two, fourhe yearsdistricts are turning blue. that will be an interesting thing to watch longer term. >> ify look at what is in the meeting. he wants to be the speaker, which he can only do if he holds on to the majority. nly about the mid term election. >> and no question that denim is taking up the position. a paul ryaame duck and a speaker of the house. it will be interesting to see if mccarthy falls on this. he wants to be the speaker. how far does he let the central valley colleagues take the push. >> and with the freedom caucus and immigration and safrpg wary policins are focuse the california's governor's race, and particularlyn the republican candidates. what are he they saying and how is itresonating with voters. is it enough to get them to the polls? >> you are seeing cox and allen, the republicans in the race, pitching to the righ for

trump's immigration policies and the others are going to the at left, loohe especially didi -- looking at the democrats, none of them want seen ask moving to the center on an issue that isin polar >> and in the race, you have an electorate that is 40% republican. yeah, if you are fighting over that small sliver of the eelectrto elte, they are trying to motivate those voters. >> the two go candidates are in a tight race for second place. what is fuelling that? >> what you have seen among the democrats since there's four, you could say serious candidate ally this, you know, g where they are trying to get as much of the market share as theycan ha. republicans have more wiggle room.

some is simple politics. if yo are a republican and you are looking at the ballot, you are going for somebody with an r next to their name. within the two, it will be interesting. john cox has been embraced by the party establishment. he is being pushed by foln the party and the typicalouonor class,ay see. and travis allen is a bootstraps type candidate. there's a sense that cox has it locked me more among s people. i don't think it's -- i think it's wide open for number two. and it could a democrat still. we don't know. >> there's a big ad push for charter schools for villaregosa. >> there will be a poll out this coming week and we will see if it shifted. you have to take the polls with a grain of salt. it's not the science it was a few years ago, so many people have cll phones and there's

internet polling. so, i think there's less confidence actually in how accurate the polls are.u see variation from poll to poll. >> to your point about the independent of course pen which you are -- independent expenditures, we are seeing more coming in from the labor constituents, so, we are seeing the reports come in, and the money come in, in the next f eeks that money will turn in to a huge blitz of ads. >> and john cox is spend ago on the -- is spending a lot of his own money. >> it's really a free for all. we have an open primary, where the to two candidate s regardless of party move on. other states,focused on each o republicans the same. newsome is putting out an ad attacking cox, but propping himu up, be he would rather have the republican in the run-off. n,d you have the california medical associat attacking

chung to try to prop up newsome, for voters it's confusing. >> a lot going on the governor's race, and on the ballot, five proposition thankfully just five. which ones are attracting the >> i think what is interesting is prop 69 and 70, they were put on the ballot last year as pa huge deals. one to raise the gas tax, fix infrastructure in the state. and deal with emissions and reduce those and the two ballots measuere put on to get republican votes. it's to make surer that t fe vehics are going to you infrastructure improvements and problem 70 is to make se that the cap and trade issues are voted on, that gets republicans in the mix's on where i going. and here's the political fall-out. f the measures fail, it will especially bo enfolks with the gop saying, why did we sign on?

>> i have to say none of them is getting attention. there's no money being spent on it, for or against any of them. >> one thing that is getting en aon, a local race, right, a san francisco mayor's race is geting national play aswell. candidas, they are teaming up, and running ads, and urging voters to mark th as choice one and two. how effective is the strategy? >> it's effective because of our voting system. like the top two, san francisco has a unique strategy where you go and pick three candidates. it's an instant run-off. so, the idea being if brooed ee more of are of the electorate, they need, 1 and 2, soare not knocked off when they count the it's a calculation that could work and backfire. their all liberal democrats in

san francisco, but they are fighting for a n limitedber of votes and i don't know if i it's going to work. >> it could help no more than kim, he has been out of city politics for a long time. he has not been a local official since 2003, been in the assemblt an senate, and done a good job by all accounts. but he that nhas not been in thy politics. hem has. so, people know so, in a way giving saying vote for him, number two, it may help sort of introduce him a bit to her voters in a way tt ma be more helpful to him. >> no matterhe results the ranked voting, the start to it is candidates will rb nibe nice each other, if they have to be a secondte or third place >> scott, and marissa and guy, our kqed politics and government team, thank you so ch.

>> thank you. turning to cannabis, last week, governor jerry brown released a revised state budget that included $14 million crack down on illegal cannabis sales. retailers and other businesseeq have beenred to get new permits. but the steep costs of the permits and taxing the sale of all cannabisroducts may be contributing to a still thriving blackmarket of marijuana.no joining mfor a discussion of all this is david downs, and josh, thespokesman for the california cannabis industry association. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> how big is the elicit california market? >> it's massive. we are the number one domestic producer of cannabis for the united states. 4 on ut of the 5 pounds of

marijuana grow is being sent to other states. we feel it may be $10 billion in revenue over all. >> a lot of money at $14 million is what governor brown is using to investigate the elicit market. >> it's a bit of drug war theater. it sends a message, we have with entrenched generation old networks that are growing and exporting the cannabis out of the state, some are domestic, and we have a big black market to is mantel and this money canh go after biggest offenders. the people who are operating at scale, and are flagrantly violating the state and federal law. >> and so, josh, on averne, tow much does it cost to be a legal operation? why is theelicit market thriving? 150,000rough estimate is to come in to compliance and get

your annual license. kru currently only 33% have anything othe books. 65% on the state is a desertf right now. which contributes to the market. >> why are the various and counties that have not enacted regulations, why are they doing that? whol are they hding back? >> i wish i had, you know, an answer as to what was fully halting them, i think a lot have been wahing the state, wanting to see where the state was going to move. we are still operating under emergency regulations. we aretl curr working on our permanent regulations, so, there's been a wait and see methodology. but krond thbeyond that, there' of education. >> and there's adisconnect between the voters. and their elected officials that are older and more conservative. look at marinere county, w 70% of voters supported prop 64. not a single store is open.

part of it is because local control is out of control in california. this dove tails in to issues of why we don't have enough houng. why we cannot build high speed rail. the locals are in the driver's seat andith regard to kana base, they have parked -- regard to cannabis, they have parked the car in the garage. >> the barers to entry, are they too big of a lust fift for operators? what if you are a small grower, and if you have to build an ada bathroom is that feesable fo them? >> there's many barriers to entry in to the industry. the first, i will agree with david, isompletely the local control issues. but also, we need to acknowledge that this industry is not new in california. existed since 1996 on the record and for many decades prior to this. so, the rush that we saw in other countiesn northern slifornia to the grow, they are

on thees of mountains with no roads. that they kind of carved in. no plumbing, no ada complaint bathro bathrooms. those costs are real and we have to acknowledge that, not a lot of these farmers planned on being a partf the regulated market. >> i would build on that by saying that imagine being a small business person and someone shows up with 300 pages of n regulations that yove to follow. often from four different federal agencies. the pot shop that ju opened in berkley, high fidelity had to install titaniumecurity dors a cost of $50,000, to meet the police department requests and these types of red tape can stack at the city,county, state level. >> so the state released numbers. californ got $34 million in tax revenue in the first tharter o year. that is much weaker than expected. it off the 185 million dollars target that ts state for the entire year for the first year of cannabis year.

why is that amount so low? >> becauses of local authization, or the lack thereof. the regulations, i don't want to say that they are erroneous, there's been a heavy lift in educating, regulators and officials on the reality of the industry. the languagef e industry. and likewise, we have had an edational lift for them on how to create good policy. that takes time, learning the different language of the two different worlds and get themon the same page has taken our association, at this point, five years. and it wl be continual working process to educate on what flower is, in comparison to what trimchis, wh relates directly to how we tax flower versus trim. >> so, educational lift, i think is huge. >> and i think we need to xt putconou historically around the tax revenue in the first 100 days or so. we have had prohibition for 80 years and we have had commercialization for 100 days. i appently am a optimist all

of a sudden, i see the glass as 1/4 full instead of3/4 empty. it will make a dent in the long nding market. it will come at the pace of the tax structure as w tl ask licensing structure at the city and county level. we will be on track to me more money in recreation a aa aal ca taxes in year one. i applaud voters that want it to be light switch. but the black market has traction, o, it may take time and maybe years. >> today, we saw an announcement om the brewer -- from the of cannabis control.

what is your >> our membership is thrilled. this is something that we have pushed for,gh thrhis entire process. so, the adult use and the medical useegnation, really has had no affect on what the product is. the doubling of application fees, lensing fees, to be an adult and medical use provider, it has served no purpose. that was discussed yesterday in thecaabis advisory committee meetings. they have passed it as awell. thrilled to see it. and we hope that it has positive effects on the finances for our members. >> all right, fwhowork in progr. thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and that will do itus for next week, please tune in for a kqed newsroom special, we will bng you the best interviews from our archives withna dic authors. you can find moreat kq

kqed/newsroom. thank you for joining us.

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