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♪ >> tonight on kqed "newsroom california officials that suppor suffici-- support toughe immigration policies went to talk donald trump and governor brown looks to crack down on the blackmarket for ij mana. we begin with politics. on wednesday, president trump and members of his cabinet met with southern california officials to discuss a shared view on immigration policy, maimly opposition -- mainly opposition to lifornia policies. the president had tough words foranrous individuals entering the country. >> you would not believe how bad these people are. these are not people. these are animals and we are taking them out of the country
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at a level and a rate that h has never happened before, and because of the weak laws they come in fast, we get them, we release them. e get them again. we bring them out. it's crazy. >> mayor troy edgar attended the white house meeting as did san diego supervisor. lo the law sb-54 prohibits state and local police from helping federal authorities withim igration cases in many cases. it was the first of several c y cities and counties to pass similar resolutions. santa clar areita will file a c saying that it's unconstitutional. mayor edgar, nice to have you on
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the program. >> nice to be here, thank you. >> what is your biggest take away from the white house week?ng you attended this >> my biggest take away that i felt tit was acon oriented, we had the right people, and he had the senior members of histaff and those that could execute on anything that we were able to take on. >> during the meeting, president trump called some undocumented immigrants"animals," what was your reaction when you hard the comment? >> you know what? being in the room, i heard him talking about that in the context of the m-13 gang members. you know, ithink a little bit different perspective, is if you are the president of the united states and you have secret service around you, you could afford to be able to make a statement like that. as a city council member, i will say their bad ombres. >> do you have a lot of bad ombres, as you say, or dangerous
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undocumented immigrants in los ala had amp alamitos? >> no, we don't, it's long been a constitutional law issue. it's about the checks and th balances ofederal hastate, and local government. we feel the state overi stepped a city, where a charter city in the state of california, as a charter city, we have the right to raise tacks and have our own -- raise taxes and have our own police departments and set priorities for the police locally. when sb-54 was passed, it said, look, as a matter of law, we will not haveou guys do the something ordeal with the federal government when it com to thas where we drew the ine. it had to do with theceath of of why would we choose between honoring a state or federal constitution.
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what we are trying to do maintaining control of our own police department. >> in the meeting, the president suggested thakland mayor, libby schaff, b justice, due to when she issued a public warning of a pending immigration aid in our community. we asked the mayor about this, and here's what she said. >> i do not see how it can bele l to inform people of the law. if the you were to receive the same type of information again today, would you do the exact same thing again? >> under thect e same circumstances? yes. i do not regret what i did. >> so, mayor edgar, what is your reaction tohat mayor schaff did and her continued defense of it? >> yeah, you know what i don't how she defends that. it's honestly, her statement like that, thatmo tivated me if
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first time that i heard h say she was on p ommoral ground. this was supposed to b an evaluation or raid by i.c.e. to get criminals off the street. i think we need to look out for the resident s of the city, and not illegal immigrants that are criminals and providing them a safe haven. it's bad policy on her se of this. and quickly, as a mayor yourself, you think the oaklandy , libby schaff should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice? >> i do. i think absolutely. i think that she owes her city a duty and i think that if she is not prosecuted by the u.s. attorney. i think her city should she of if it'sso the right p to be elected to be their leer going forward -- their leaer going forward. >> during the meeting this week at the white house that you had with the president.yo mentioned the aclus lawsuit against lo alamitos, and you asked him for funding. why do you need funding and what do you plan to use it for? >> well, when we, went in to thh
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lawsuit, wi went in to it with -- we went in to it with eyes wide open. it cost money, and hahad to mak sure that we could afford whatever the cost would be. t we took actio harness this. like i told the president, sometimes being first can be pretty expensive and the clu has ten, different lawyers focused on this. thy are going to full-court press, and you know, we know this is ae very uni land mark issue, really, around constitutional and the city's rights iseues. have potentially could end up in the supreme court, and really, for us to kind of goodt distance, we need to be able to see if we can depepd on anier sort of federal assistance going through it, whether it's direct support of staffing or other support. they said, we need to help them look after this.
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so, we got together, laid out proposals on what potentially could work, and thealso, just trying to make sure thatne knew tht day it would be lobbying on capitol hill and talking to a bunch of other congressman to if there was anything i could do specifically around appropriations and judiciary committee. >> okay, thank you mayor edgar us. joining >> thank you so much for havi me on again. > and staying with politics, ballots went out by mail to registered voters for the up coming statewide primary election on june 5th. the candidates foril governor be narrowed down and the winners going on to november'selection. donald trump endorsed john cox, there's five statewide ballot es measur. one of them requires money raised from a gas tax and vehicle registration fees to be spent only on transportation projects. another measure would allow homeowners to get tax relief for
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nvesting in rain water captu system. joining me now to talk about it is our own kqed, california politics and government team. senior editor, scoff schafer. andreporte nk you to all of you. we will get to the primary election in a moment. i'm curious of your reaction of the of 11,000 people.he mayor of a you are the sheriff of fresno county a suddenly you are at the white house with the president. it's live on television. it has to be a little heady thing to find yourself in the middle of at. first of all, you have to kind of accept that there aviews aree sin e,oue ohheathit w ct shinanry uait hamperser their ability to keep the public safe. i was struck by the diskeb, between the rhetoric coming out
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e white house and the president in particular, saying, this mayor saying, we don't have emroa h w dblumenitted immigran. it's sort of problem that is around this issue where youhe he the president really going hard saying that these areen ha criminals, bad ombres r whatever you want to say, and you have l oa lsit's not the reality of the crime that ware concerned about. >> yeah, it's going to be an interesting one from a legal ri perspective,t, we heard that the aclu is going to sue them over the ordinan of fighting the sanctuary state law. i was at the republican state conventn, th te issue of first of all, if you are not a charter city the cities way cannot sue. it's a legal question and the resource issue, that is something th i heard from a expect everyone to stick their neck on ou and i think that, you know, tha. question of funding and sort of resources, will be int to watch politically too,
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because, you know, do their residts even if they oppose a sanctuary state law want to spend their tax dollarsighting it. i have a hard time believing that the department of justice d will fund tense of the city's lawsuit. >> and that really seemed to be' ma edgar's priority in the meeting. getting money out of it. before he went to the white house, he had a go fund me page rted to try to fight the aclu, looking for more of a sustainable source in the fight. >> that may be a better place to go. >> unlike daca, where there's solid support for the dreamers or the wall,t's fairly strong opposition. you know, this issue of te sanctuary sand city is down the middle. when you are down to places like range county, or fresno. it's very much split. so, it may be a short-term political issue for t republican party locally. it's not going help them statewide, especially john doco
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or travis allen. >> those are t two republican candidates for governor. you brought up daca, scott, i want to ask congressman y jeff m,deorcehe a immigration -- he isad g a movemen to force a vote i'm gra -- a vote on immigration. >> we have talked to him, they pe tohave alw aysconcern, and frun atsto thai bssile, of h ow little, i , has been done around immigration. it a'snkp th oat,mif t hat is s of the,hi s treisnsthe sanctuad push a dreamer thing. cal cott's point about the sorto ofxpiency of this, if you are in denim's district,
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it will probay good bet. oran gety coit,untwo , four hae thing to watch longer term. y> ouif meeng.o he wants to be the peakr, which he can only do if he holds on tjoe o .ueristma ttyhat im is o taking up the position. pkl ryan a lame d and a speaker of the house. it will be interesting to see if mccarthy falls on this. tset wan b t to the central push. >> and with the freedom caucus and immigration and safrpg wary policies arefocused in the california's governor's race, andarticularly in the republican candidates. what are he they saying and how is it resonating with voters. is it enough t get them to the polls? >> you are seeing cox and allen, the republicans in thepitc ng t
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trump's immigration policies and the others are going to the left, look at the especially didi -- looking at th democrats, none of them want to be seen ask moving to the center on an issue that is you have an electorate that is 40% republican. yeah, if you are fighting over that small sliver of the eelectr electorate, they are trying to s.tivate those vot >> the two gop candidates are in a tight race for second ceat is fuelling that? .>> whatlap you have seen amongs democince there's four, you couldallythis, you know, to t as machet share as they you are.can had republican and
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are lookinglo at the b you are going for somebody with an r next to their name. within the two, it will be interesting. john cox has been embraced by the par establishment. he is being pushed by folks in the party and the typical donor class, you may see. and travis allen is a bootstraps type candidate. there's a sense that cox has it locked up more among some people. i don't think it's -- i think it's wide open for number two. and it could be a democrat still. we don't know. >>here's a big ad push for charter schools for villaregosa. >> there will be a poll out this coming week and wwill see if it shifted. you have to take the polls with a grain of salit not the science it was a few years ago, so many people have cell phoness and ther internet polling.
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so, i think there's less confidence actually in how l accurate the are. you do see variation from poll to poll>> o your point about the independent of course pen which you are -- independent expenditures, we are seeing more coming in from the labor constituents, so, we are seeing the reports come in, andhe money come in, in the next few weeksrnthat money will in to a huge blitz of ads. >> and john cox is spen iago on the spending a lot of his own money. >> it's really a free for all. weheave an open primary, the top two candidate s regars focused on each other an republicans the same. newsome is putting out an ad attacking cox, but propping him up, because he would rather have the republican in the run-off. and you have the california medical asciation, attacking
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chung to try to prop up newsome, for vters it's confusing. >> a lot going on in the governor's race, and on the ballot, five propositions. hankfully just five. which ones are attracting the most attention? i think whats interesting is prop 69 and 70, they were put on the ballot last year as part of huge deals. ene to raise the gas tax, fix infrastructure in state. and deal with emissions and reduce those and the two blot measures were put on to get republican votes. it's to make surer that the vehicle fees are going to you infrastructure improvements and problem 70 is to make sure that the cap and trade issues are voted on, that gets republicans in the mix on where it's going. and here's p theitical fall-out. if the measures fail, it will especially bold enfolkshe gop saying, why did we w tith si
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g attention. g,hs's no money being spent ont a san francisco mayor's r getting natlalioas pe is candidates, they are teaming up, and running ads, and urging voters to mark them as choice one and two. how effective is the strategy? >>ca it's effective e of our voting stem. tke thep youto o, go and pickree caatndesid. so, the idea being if brooed eleetorate, they 1 and 2, so they are not knocked off when they count t votes. i s a calculation that cou work and backfire. their all liberal democrats in t
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'sn francisco,hey e k ifi it fi going to work. >>it could help cs agntime. he has not been a local official since 2003, been in the assembly and the teaccounts. but he that nhas not been in thy politics. kim has. so, people know her, so, in a way giving sing vote for him, number two, it may help sort of introduce him a bit to h voters in a way that may be more helpful to him. to it voting the starts the is candidates will rb nibe nice each other, if ey have to be a second or third place vote. >> scott, and marissa and guy, our kqed politics and government team, thank you so much.
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>> thank you. turning to cannabis, last week, governor jerry brown released a revised state budget tt included $14 million to cra down onillegal cannabis sales. retailers and other businesses have been required to gs. new permit but the steep costs of the permits and taxing the sale of all cannabisy contributing to a still thriving blackmarket of rijuana. joining me now for a discussion avissh, idthe spokesman for thes rnlifo industryia as thak you. massivwoc big is the elicit ic lhe nudoe.me produofmber the united sta te
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4 marijuana grown isgye10billion e revenue over all. >> a lot of money an governor brown isst using to inate the elicit market. >> it's a bssagit ofug old avwe networks that are growing and ting the cannabis out of the orpstate, some are domestic and we have a big caac bk l go after the biggest offenders. the people who are operating at gt tndtateca and federal on ere,v n to be a legal operation? why is the elicit market g?vi > rothto>e come in to compliancet
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lynt nlyyo 33% have anything on the books. 65% on the state is a desert of right now. which contributes to the market. >> why a the various cities and counties that have not enacted regulations, why are ng they d that? why are they holding back? >> i wish i d, younon anwe to what was fully halting them, i think a lot have been watching the state, wanting to see where the state was going to move. we are still operating undereme. we are currently ngso, there's been a wait and see etholo tt kucaon. >> and there's a disconnect between the voters. and their electedlsic o tia neari county, where 70% aof single store is open. bertf it
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secacas lifornuia. this dove tails in to issues of why we don'tha housing. why ou en ghrail alenwe cotdriver's seat d wheith regard to kana base, they have parked -- regard togarage. >> the barriers to entry, are they too big of a lust fift for operators? what if you are a small grower, and if you have to build an ada bathroom, is that feesable for ? th >> there's many barriers to entry in to the industry. the fst, i will agree with david, is completely the local control issues. but also, we need to acknowledge that this industry is not new in california. it existed since 1996 on the record and for many decad prior to this.n other counties inth nn california to the grow, they are on the sides mountai with
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no roads. in.t they kind of carved no plumbing, no ada c bathro plthomrooms. ntthose costs are real. and we have to acknowledge that, not a lot of these planned on being a part of the regulated market. >> i would build on tha by saying that imagine being a small business person and someone shows up with 300 pages of new regulations that you have follow. often from four different federal agencies. the pot shop that just opened i berkley, highad inl fidelity titanium security at a cost of $50,000, to meet the police department requests and these types of red tape can stack at the city, county, state level. >> so the state released numbers. california g $34 million in tax revenue in the first quarter of this ye. that is much weaker than expected. it off the 5 ste18li m hasil the ti torhe first f year of cannabis becauses o lo
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reioizthron,n'at lwa tnt o tohek say that theyerroneous, there's been a heavy lift in educating, regulators and officials on the reality of the industry. the language of the industry. and likewise, we have had an educational lift for them on how to create good policy. th takes time, learning the different language of the two different worlds and get them on the same page has taken our association, at this point, five years. nd it will be ao cntua oinnl what flower is, in comparison to what trim is, which relates directly to how we tax flower versus trim. >> so, that educational lift, i think is huge. >> awe i thinkeed to putcontext you historically around the tax revenue in the irst 100 days or so. we have had prohibition for 80 yers and we have had commercialization for 100 days. i apparently am anptimist all of a sudden, i see the glass as
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1/4 full instead of 3/4 empty. it will make a dent in the long standing market. it will come at the pace of the tax structure as well ask the licensing structure at the city and county level. we will be on track to make more money a lal taxes in a year one. i applaud voters th wan it to be a light switch. but the black market has traction, so, it may>>today, wet from the brewr the of cannabis control.
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what is your reaction? >> our membership is thrilled. this is something that have pushed for, through this entire process. so, the adult use and the medical use designat has had no affect on what thect prois. the doubling of application fees, licensing fees, to be an adult and medical use provider, it has served no purpose. that was discussed yesterday i the cannabis advisory committee they have passed it as well. we are thrilled to see it. and we hope that it has positive effects on the fnances forur members. >> all right, fwhowork in >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and that will do it for us,x week, please tune in for a kqed newsroom special, we will bring you the best interviews from our archives wi dynamic authors. you can find moreat kq
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: a high-stakes standoff. president trump and his allies clash with the justice department. russia probe enterss second year, tonight, on "washington week." president trump: i have this witch hunt constantly going on for over 12 months now and actually much more than that. robert: as president trump continues to insist there was no wrongdoing by his 2016 campaign, the russia probe hits the one-year mark,nd t allheies in pushing toongrs discredites robt mueller'soi ongng showdown, over aopecret b.i. se. b.i. director bureauhr scrambles.
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