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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening, i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight, llesident trump meets top law enforcement and inence officials after calls to investigate the f.b.i. for litically motivated surveillance of his campaign. then, the supreme court delivers a blow to workers rights, oystricting the ability of emees to take collective action against labor disputes. and, data privacacross the pond-- how the european union and britain are taking online privy to the next level ahea of facebk c.e.o.'s testimony in parliament. >> the idea that mr zuckerberg has that the world should be an open place where everyone knows everything about everybody is absurd and it's dangerous. >> nawaz tonight's pbs newshour. f
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>> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. anbsby contributions to your station from viewers like you. thank you. >> nawaz: president trump met today with top jusce department officials, after demanding they investigate whether the f.b.i. infilated his 2016 campaign. f.b.i. director chris wray and deputy attorney genera rosenstein attended the white house meetg. the justice department has also asked its internal watchdog to examine the president's claims. we'll have a detailed look at all of this, after the news summary. gina haspel was officially sworn in today as director of the central intelligence agency.
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president trump attended the ceremony at c.i.a. headquarters in langley, virginia. vice president mike pence gave the oath of office to haspel, who becomes the first woman to lead the agency. >> i would not be standing before you today if not for the markable courage and dedication displayed by generations of o.s.s. and agency women in roles both large and small who challenged down barriersro and opened doors for the rest of us. >> nawaz: the senate ved to confirm haspel last week. that vote followed a tense deete over her role in the of harsh interrogations, later ctemed to be torture, and in the destn of interrogation tapes. orxas held a statewide moment of silence today, f those killed and wounded in friday's school shooting. outside santa fe high, students and staff gathered around 10 white crosses, one for each person who died in the attack. support dogs sat aloside survivors, who hugged and cried during the ceremony.
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in syria, the military declared the capital city of damascusnd and its surrgs, free of islamic state militants, for the first time in seven years. state tv showed troops waving syrian flags, surrounded by destroyed buildings. the celebration came after the army retook the last isis strongholds, in a month-long campaign. ade president of venezuela faced widespondemnation today after winning re-election in a unsputed vote. officials and socialist utader nicolas maduro took 68% of sunday's tally,he opposition charged widespread fraud. at a rally last night, maduro dismissed the claims, and he again blamed u.s. sanctis for his couny's economic crisis. >> ( translated ): we make a big effort for this country, pestered, attacked by the american empire. thank you for overcoming so many aggressions, so many lies, thanks for joining me in so many battles and thanks for making me president. >> nawaz: a number of latin
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american nations also refused to recognize the election results. in washington, vice president pence called the election "a sham" anthreatened more sanctions. ebola vaccinations began today in the democratic republic of congo, as the death toll rose to 27. this latest outbreak has now reached the northwest city of mbandaka, since first appearing in april. the world health organization hailed the experimental vaccine as aparadigm shift" in fighting the disease. ebola killed more than 11,000 people in west africa between 2013 and 2016. president trump is touting a kind of trade truce with china. the two nati agreed to put tariff threats "on hold" while they try to finish a potential deal. mr. trump tweeted today that the chinese "will purchase from our great american farmers practically as much as our farmers can produce." chinese officials said they, too, want a deal, but they warned it ma not put an end to tensions.
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>> ( translated the short term, we believe that once the chinese and u.s. governments reached a good agreement, both governments should honor such agreement. but it is hard to guarantee that there would be no new frictions, new disputes or new divergence of views beten the two sides. >> nawaz: u.s. commerce secretary wilbur ross will travel to china ne week, hoping to finalize a trade agreement. lke prospe of progress in the china trade s went over well on wall street. the dow jones industrial average gained nearly 300 points to close at 25,013. the nasdaq rose 39 points, and the s&p 500 added 20. erd, richard goodwin, former speechwror presidents iannedy and johnson, has died. his wife, histdoris kearns goodwin, says he passed away at his home last nit after a brief bout with cancer. kechard goodwin was one of the youngest members oedy's inner circle, and later worked on some of johnson's major domestic initiatives he was 86 years old.
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still to come on the newshour: the political and legal ramifications of the president's claims that an f.b.i. spy infiltrated his campaign. a supreme court ruling making it more difficult to sue your employer the secretary of state's threat to impose the "strongest sanctions in htory" on iran, d much more. >> nawaz: as we reported earlier, the justice department has asked its internal watchdog to review president trump's charge that the f.b.i. spied o16 mr. trump's lection campaign. the move came sunday night hours after the president announced on twitter that he would "demand" the department look into the matter. sunday, in a series of six tweets in the course of an hour, the president targeted special counsel robert mueller's probe, calling it "the world's most expensive witch hunt."
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sunday's developments came in e wake of last week's "washington post" report that a longtime u.s. intelligence source had contacts with several of mr. trump's advisors during the 2016 campaign. devlin barrett covers the justice departmentor the post and joins me now. vlin, thank you so much for your time. let me ask you now, as the basis of that demand, thident basically said there was a spy implanted in his campaign. tell me about that. based on your reporting, is that what you believe happened? >> i don't think that's a fair characterization at all of the person we are reporting on, which is the f.b.i. souce, an american professor who had several meetings that, to be clear, the source himself initiated, but thewere meetings what intelligence officials might fer to as brushups where you arrange a meeting with someone. acbut i don't think it'rate to characterize that as a spy or embedding them with the
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campaign. >> nawaz: the chain of events, the president makes a demand on twitter, the deputy attorney general responds asking the inspector general basically the watchdog to take this on.at o you make of that chain of events there? >> wl, there are certinly people who are worried you're sically setting a pattern of the president demanding things from the justice department and stice department giving him something, but i think it's still worth keeping in mind that the ceral thing that is sort offa red line for law enforcement ficials which is e turning over of classified documents to congress, that line hasn't been crossed yet. we may still reh that point, but i think, in a way, this is a lesser confrontation, a lesser conflict, this question of an asg. investigation than the source of ified documents on the hill. >> nawaz: what happened at th meeting today? >> the initial word is they had a meeting and basically agreed to have another meeting.
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so it may be that, as has happened before, the justice department essentially plays fo time, says they want to keep talking about it, but don't actuallyurn over paperwork to lawmakers on the hill who have been demanding the paperwork. the justice department's argument is that would be too dangerous for the source and for their operations. it's not clear today's meeting actually resolve very much but, obviously, the president is now more directly involved and that could rais.e the stake >> nawaz: talk to me about raising the stakes quickly fore we let you go. we know the president's lashed out at the justice department before. if history's a dyed, he could do it again. could we be back with tensings rigain sometime soon? >> oh, absolutely. i think what you've seen in the last three week has been a steady escalation of this issue. but at the same time, you know, the president could have issued an order sayng turn over those documents right now. he could have done that three weeks ago and hetill hasn't. so i don't think we should ngsume that this will keep escalaut i also think we
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have watched it escalate, so we have to keep close ts on it. >> nawaz: devlin barrette of "the washington post." thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> nawaz: we now breaksome of the broader legal questions here. a short time ago, i spoke with three people with extensive experience at the justice department. miael mukasey served as attorney general during the george w. bush administration. he also served as th judge of the united states district court for the southern distct of new york. ck goldsmith served as an assistant attorney general during the bush admis stration. heso a professor at f rvard law school and co-founderwfareblog.com. ved frank montoya is a retired f.b.i. agent whoaw national security investigations. he joins us via skype. gentlemen, thanks for making the time. michael mukasey, i want to askfi yot, the president certainly has constitutional authority to direct the work of the justice department.er the criticism, though, is that this specific directive wasn't about the law, it was about politics. did the president cross a line
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re? >> i don't know that he crossed a line. i think he was appropriately responded to by rod rosenstein id that is it was going to be referred to thpector general who in the ordinary course would take a look at a matter lnde this see whether it had been done appropriately or inappropriately, and that would be the end of it. >> nawaz: rosenstein responded, as you purchasedto the deputy a.g. by saying this would be a matter the inspetactr generas up. but in response to the president's first action to even demand such an investigation, do you f cl that waspletely within line? >> look, completely -- it's not something that's happened in my experience. on the other hand, there's a lot that's happened with respect to this president that hasn' happened in my experience and he's not a person with a fine sense ofetail. so do i think it's unusual that he would want this looked into? no. i don't know that he would publicly demand it be looked into but, in any event, it's not
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inappropriate to look into it. >> nawaz: frank mooya, you spoke with one of my colleagues earlier and called it an all-out assault from the president. why? >> in the first instance, it's very fascinating ths doing the very same thing that he's accused theobama administration of and that is driving or demanding an investigation. beyond that, there is a well-regarded separation between the white house and the independence of the department uf justice and in particular the f.b.i. and the co of its investigations, and whether it's an appropriate request or not, it certainly shouldn't be done over twitter and it shouldn't be doneayn a publicas it is being done because all that does is undermine the process, processes that are not only time honored but are legitimate, they toodegal and they have the test of time. >> jack goldsmith, let me ask you, this isn't the first time the president has come up ainst his own law enfocement agencies, but what you have you
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noticed about theio relathip between those two? >> you're right. the tweet over the weekend comes against the backdrop of almost a year of unprecedented bullysuing and pr and name calling by the president about the russia investigation and threatening and questioning th integrity of people he appointed to the f.b.i. director or the deputy attorney general. all of that is unpecedented in the post-water greater ray. we've never had anything like this level of -- or anything close to this level of presidential interference and threats with an ongoing investigation. i can't emphasize how tough it for them be conducting this investigation. usually the president in these hi-stakes events has the back of his justice department ofcials and here the presdent not only doesn't have their back, he's angachem and trying to undermine the degree inti of what theyre doing. >> nawaz: let me ask you about thpositiothe deputy attorney
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general is in, did he have a choice in responding to the president's request in this way. >> i guess he could have, if he resigned, but he work for the president who has the authority to fire him and make suggestions and orders about the investigation, so he finds himself with very conflicting responsibilities. i think he has mainly tried to protect the integrity and vedependence of the russia igation. i think the step he took in response to wt predent trump demanded by sending the issue to the inspector general who basically will find out facts and what happened, he has a related investigation going on, i think that was a nimble compromise on his part. >> nawaz: that seems like a remarkable position, either respond and take action on the n.esident's request o or resig were those his only two options here? >> if there's a thirdi can't
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ink of it. i think he made the appropriate response. should say that, as what mr. montoya said about his having done this in public, ven the fact that he got upset and did it at all, frankly i prefer he did it in public rather than private so that we don't know about it. now we know what he said, why he said it and what the response was andeth all out in the open. >> nawaz: as a former f.b.i. agent, the revelation of the f.b.i. source in reports seems to have spurred some of the president's tweets and this last directive for sure. testify confidential informants like the one reported on, give me a sense of h often they're used, whether the action uatailed in that report was unbecause the president characterized it as by planted in his campaign. that your read on what happened? >> absolutely not. the use overinformants is a common practice in all kinds of investigations, whether iey're tiiminnature or whether
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they're al security and counterintelligence in nature. the fact of the matter is the algations were made they weren't fabricated by tyone in the f.b.i. or department of justice. the f.b.i. was using tools at its dispose also. tools it uses all the time in these kinds of investigations to ferrate out the truth. >> nawaz: there is another issue here that the president and the justice department have thme to loggerheads, they're the documentt the justice department has that can identify who the informa was. house republicans wanted to see them, they me theequest, the president supported the request. col?'s the proto would bit current given current conditions for the justice department to be turning over those documents to house republicans? >> the justice department would never under any circumstances turn oor irmation about an informant in an ongoing criminal investigation to the congress. that's standard executive branch practice and view of
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presidential prerogatives. deputy attorney general rosenstein has been amazingly accommodating, maybe too requests,ing on other but on this one he had to draw the line. the remarkable thing is, usually, when the justice department is trying to protect the prerogatives of the tecutive branch, it has the support president. here the president is encouraging and on the verge of ordering the justice department to turn those documents over and he actually does have the authority to do that. i think that would cause a real crisis in the justice department if he ordered the justicert dent to burn a source to congress. it's cometly unprecedented, in my experience. >> nawaz: michael mukasey, what do you make of that? is there a crisis brewing if the president follows threw on support of request for his order tothe documents over. >> i think the answerrous heard illustrate the distinctionrr between being ct and being right. the answerrous just heard were correct, bute're not just
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dealing with an informant in a normal criminal case, and we're not dealing with an informant d anonymousai the people who disclosed information ability him who were some of the people who sport the investigation disclosed enough about him so that his entity has become public and, in fact, a number of news organizations d it. so we're not talking about some deep, dark secret. we're talking abousomething that, in fact, has already been disclosed and disclosed in large part because of statements that were made by people who support the existence of this investigation about the informant. >> let me ask you michael imukasey because you meed this is an unusual president who has surprised even you in the the institutions and norms in america, they can certainly be bent, but i'm cious, based on what did you've seen, is there a point at which you're worried those same norms could break? >> of course one always worries about if there's a point at which norms could break, but
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despite some of the antics going on on all sides and despite all sorts of crie about constitutional crisis, i think that the institutionsf government by and large a holding up fairly well. >> nawaz: frank montoya, what t do you s that?at >> loohe special counsel and how his focus is on the investigation its self-. the only public utterances from usm are the ones in the filings in varioourtrooms. but in terms of the, you know, the investigative process, thepr ecutor process, it's been pretty stellar, the inte integrf the investigation has been held to a very hh standard and will continue to be so through the end of the investigation. >> nawaz: jack goldsmith, rankael mukasey and f montoya, thank you for your time. >> thank you.
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>> nawaz: there was major legal news out of washington today. the supreme court weighed in once more on the balance of power between workers and hployers. william brangh more. >> brangham: this is the latest major ruling affecting corporate a to come out of the cou under chief justice john roberts. today, the focus w on workers' ility to take collective legal gainst their employers. many non-union workers are blocked from doing that because of their empyment contracts. instead, they must take their roaims to what's known as arbitration, ass labor groups say unfairly benefits companies. in a 5-to-4 ruling today, the court ruled the actice is allowable under federal law. here, as always, to dissect what the justicesrote is marcia coyle of "the national law journal." >> thank you. >> brangham: so tell us what the cases were that were involved and what the justices ruled. >> there were a group of workers for three different compaes
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who wanted to bring claims against their employers, genrally wage and hour claims, and some of them wantd to band together as a group because of the amount of money invold individually was not a lot. >> brangham: they were saying we weren't paidby appropriatel the company? d that's correct, maybe were miss classifd some felt they deserved overtime. so when they broug those claims and tried to band together they were told by their employers yo you cannot do this. under the workplace ash adminiration agreement w prohibit collective or class actions. the workers then turned around and challenged this ban in theii ation agreement saying it violated the national labor ons act which you know, william, applies not just to toion workers but applies almost all private employees in the united states and protects or guarantees the workers' rights to engae in collective action, to unionize or to do it
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just for their mutual aid and protection. so that was thessue that came before the supreme court. the employers say, no, the federal arbitration act says that arbitration agreements he to be enforced according to their terms. the issue before the supreme court was, you know, what gives? does the national labor res act, which by the way l s enacted in 1935, does that prev does the federal arbitration act enacted in 1925 prevail? justice gorsuch led the 5-4 majority in this case, the other wur justices with hime on the conservative side of the court and he ruled the federal arbitration act says you have to enforce the great according to its terms. workers, you cannot band together. you have to bring your claims individually. >> brangham: can you explain whr people who haven't been following alon an arbitration clause essentially
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says? >> basically, it's saying thacl if you have m against the prployer, you have to go in ate arbitration, and that kind of a proceeding, generally the employer fin an arbitrator -- there are associations of arbitrators -- to come in. it's supposed to be a neutraral trator, to hear your claim and make a decision, you are bound by that decision. and roughly 25 million employees in the united stats are under these arbitration agreements that include bans on collective or class actions. >> brangham: and these are clauses many times people have no idea they're signing. >> generally not. mes they're in very smal print. that's assent case with consumer arbitration agreements. back in 2011, the supreme court upheld class action bans in consumer arbitration agreements. this was sort of the lt
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battleground for employers, workplace arbitrati agreements agreements. >> brangham: judge gorsuch held the major the conservatives and they held sway today. justice ginsburg wrote the diss she took a position of reading it from the bench. >>he did. whena justice feels particularly strongly about a dissent and opinion, thatst e has the opportunity to read a summary from the benchf that dissent just as the justice who has the majority opinion can read a summary of his or her majority opinion. justice ginsburg, it was clear from the arguments in this case eaerier in the term, felt strongly and, during her summary of it from the bench today, she called these arbitration agreements arm-twisted, take it oreave it agreements that harkin back to a very early erat they use use the term
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yellow-dog contracts that employers would use to prevent employeefrom joining unios or prohibit them from joining unions, and she felt that t court, over the years, has taken the scope of the federal arbitration act away from what congress intended, that it was regionally enacted to encourage arbitration between merchts but now, as i just said, it's noen extended to consumer agreements and workplace agreements, also. so she read the text of those two laws that were at issue and the history very differently hrom justice gorsuch. justice gors looked at the labor law and said there was thing in it about arbitration and if congress meant the labor law supplant the arbitration law, the congress has to make its intent manifestly clear and e d not do that. lt the two laws could exist together, but she felt that the class action dan
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collective action bans in the law were really unlawful labor practices. >> brangham: mcia coyle, as always, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. clacks >> nawaz: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: how new e.u. privacy laws aim to protect both europeans' and americans' data. and the political response to the texas hool shooting. but first, two weeks ago president trump withdrew the united states from theran nuclear deal, which limited the islamic republic's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. today, secretary of state mike impeo unveiled the administration's nn strategy. here's foreign affairs and defense correspondent ni hifrin. >> schifrin: in his first major speech as secretary of state, mike pompeo painted iran's government as the source of middle east instability. >> the regime reaps a harvest of
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suffering and death in the middle east at the expense of its own people. >> schifrin: the new strategy targets iran's economy. the trump administration believes re-imposinganctions will cripple iran's finances, so it can't afford its nuclear program, or its support for regional proxy groups. >> iran will be forced to make a choice: either fight to keep its economy off li support at home, or keep squandering precious wealth on fights abroad. it will not have the resources to do both. >> schifrin: targeting iran's omonomy could end up targeting europeannies that sell iran products, like aircraft manufacturer airbus and french automaker puegeot. pompeo said the u.s. did not c re if u.s. policy hurt european econoterests. >> i know that they may decide to keep their old nuclear deal going with tehran. that is certainly their decision to make. they know where we stand. >> schifrin: the strategy also tolls for the u.s. militar counter small iranian boats that threaten u.sships in the persian gulf and hezbollah
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fighters based in lebanon and syria. >> we will track down iranian s eratives and their hezbollah proxerating around the world and we will crush them. >> schifrin: the u.s. also wants to increase internal pressure on the iranian regime. pompeo said the u.s. "stood with" anti-government protestors who, like some in the administration, have called for the overthrow of the iranian regime. >> we hope, indeed we expect, that the iranian regime will rtme to its senses and sup not suppress, the aspirations of its own citizens. >> schifrin: and pompeo said if iran gave into 12 fundamental demands, permanently abandoning its nuclear program, ending its missile program, ending support of proxy groups, the u.s. would offer iran a sweeping new relationship with economic alpport and full diplomatic noation. >> it is america's hope that our labors toward peace and security will bear fruit fothe long- suffering people of ir n schifrin: joining me now is brok, senior policy
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adviser to the secretary of state, and director of policy planning earlier this month he was in pyongyang and led negotiations with the europeans ahead of the president's decision to withdraw from the iran nuclear deal. welcome back to the "newshour". >> good to be here again. >> schifrin: thanks much. we heard from secretary pompeo the list of 12 demands. i talked to some people who criticized some of the speed t mit. they talked about magical thinking, ul ultimatums, not diplomacy, dead on arrival. this seemso be a wholesale transformation of policy. are they dead on arrival? >> no, the list of 12 demands secretary pompeo laid out today have been o reed tat one time or another by our european allies in. categories, the list is around ending iran's nuclear program so they can't enrich, it's denyingt th ability to support terrorism, to fund proxy wars,
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eto destabilize or countries, to detain citizens arbitraril this whole list of 12, a lot of it grew out of our neotiations with our european allies, and these are all very reasable demands. >> the speech specifically mentionsth iranian people multiple times and at one point secretary pompeo said it is upir to theian people to make the change quickly and if it doesn't happenwe will continu the u.s. pressure on iran. is the goal therefore actually opeither to the iranian le to overthrow their own government or for the u.s. somehow to get some kind of regime change? >> we are looking for a change in the bavior of the iranian regime, and if they can change their conduct, and a number of the key areas that secretary pompeo outlined, there can a much better future for the iranian people and the united states is prepared to enter inte irely new relationship with iran, one that completely lifts all of the sanctions, that
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has full diplomatic ties, that welcomes iran into the global economy, but they can't do at if they still intend to acquire a nuclear weapon, if they want to destabilize and stoke violence and instability across the middle east and viole the human rights of their own people. >> how do you get chia, russianings and europeans to create the same economic pressure on iran that existed in 2013 today when it's clear they're not willing to do that >> it's very early. we just started the process. the plan is to continue workingo wi allies as we have been over the last few months to create a new security architecture and, as that process unfolds, you will see more countritering into those discussions, and we're very hopefulbout thediplomacy ahead. we think that, over time, as we work for a new and bett deal, that we will have more countries supporting us >> secretary pompeo today talked about trying to get a new deal that would be aty trean the
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u.s. senate with iran. does u.s. want a treaty with kim jong un that would be confirmed by the senate? >> we are were open to areaty with north korea. the president has talked about a very bright future for the north korean pf ple ie regime can end its nuclear missile program among other things. but we are open to a treaty relationship with north korea under thright conditions and as secretary pompeo has said, we're also open to a trea relationship with iran, again under the right conditions. we'rtrying to set forth a positive and hopeful vision for the north korean people and the iranian people. >> schifrin: the national security advisor john boltonbr ght up libya when talking about kim jong un. he talked about the libya model efreferring to 2003 rts to try toll get libya to denuclearize. of course gadhafi, the head of libya, ended up dead in a ditch a few years later. was it not undetandable that
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kim jong un might hear the words libya model and think, oh, this n't going to end well r me? >> i think what we're trying to accomplish there abou the complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearition of north korea that's our objective. there are different ways toie describe ang denuclearization. libya made the decision to get rid of its nuclear weapons. you also had south tfrica ge rid of its nuclear weapons. a number of countries decided the cost-benefit of having a nuclear program just isn't there. so w very focused on creating a framework where it'st in nkorea's interest to denuclearize and we are ready to discusa range ofefits for north korea if they are willing nuclearize. >> how do you convince kim jong un that denuclearization doesn't end up with his death, if you're going to bring up libya? >> secretary pompeo has met with kim jong un twice, and i think
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that's been the center of the discussions have been those peo le to date. those have been very good meetings, and i think they are ing a good job to create the right kind of positive framework so that present trump and kim jong un can have a very productive meeting in singapore. d>> there is someit within the administration about the summit that's scheduled for a few weeks from now, and i'm wod ering what's chanbecause you were in pyongyang meeting with kim jong un and secretary pompeo and received assurance about denuclearization. what's changed to create the doubts about this summit today? >> i think we did have vey good discussions in north korea, and the purpose of that trip was to set the table for the discussion between president trump and kim jo un. >> is there a chance this summit might not happen? >> i'm always hopful on diplomacy and we're going to keep at it till we get to june 12.
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>> brian hook, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> nawaz: now, h europe is preparing for new rules that will give consumers more power over their personal data, and whether that could be a templa for the u.s. grcebook c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is expected to bled by members of the european parliament this week about the mbridge analytica scandal. his testimony is taking place as new rules in the e.u. are set to take effect friday. although britain is leaving the e.u., it is applying the new law, and is pledging to be an world leaderta protection. some companies, like facebook, apple and twitter, say they are updating their global policies in anticipation ti the new regus. special correspondent malcolm brabant reports from london. >> reporter: like any other european citizen who's got an online presence, i've been inundated with messages in the past few weeksrom internet companies from social media
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giants, even from the company that made my fitness tracker. and all of them want me to go into my settings, to update my privacy data, to make sure that wthey are compliant with european data protection rules that come into effect this week. n re's aideo, the irish produced to exple basics. >> so from may 25th, the new e.u. general data protection reguretion puts more onsibility on organizations who use our data and gives us grter control over how it' used. >> reporter: i've got an email here from facebook security saying that i need to accept it easier for you to controlat your privacy and security settings in one place and we want to explain mo c about how weate a personalized experience for you. >> they must tell us clearly a in straightforward terms how they will use and protect our data. only personal data that is needed to provide us with a service should be collected and it should not be used or shared for other related purposes.
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>> reporte have been in the making for several years, long before theri cae analytica scandal was exposed. among the protections: lscompanies must provide tn their platforms to let consumers opt-out. they must also clearly disclose data breaches to end users within 72 hours of learning about it. and allow ers the ability to keep a copy of their own private data. companies can no longer sell a customer's details without the customer's permission or bury this information in the small print about privacy, as happens in america. outside the bank of england and across the 27 other countries of the european union, citizens are taking back control of their inivacy as the new regulations prepare to kick . >> i suppose its evolution rather than revoluti but having said that it is the biggest shake up in european privacy rules in 20 odd year >> reporter: lawyer phil lee specializes in privacy issues. >> under the new law y t may have heare's this idea of
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the right to be forgotten, which is your right as an individual to write to a business and say i nant you to delete the per information that you hold about me. >> reporter: lee worked in california's silicon valley for four years and is now back in britain, helping american business to navigate e.u. and global data protection compliance. >> in the u.s. there is no equivalent overarching legislation that applies acrossy absolutely eing. instead what happens in the u.s. is you get very sector specific rules or rules that are designed to address specific risks. so you get for example financial services privacy regulation or you get health related privacy regulations. but the challenges with that approach are that you can get gaps that fall between the middle and so there are sections of individuals whose privacy are not protected in the same way as they are in europe. >> reporter: the new rules apply equally to a giant company like google, to the sthllest firm at keeps anyone's data.
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we repeatedly asked googlespo interview esperson, but our requests were ignored. the companies are facing gorous inspections from britain's data protection authority whose london base is here. the staff of the information commissioner is being beefed up to enforce the n european privacy regulations. deputy com can fine a company 4% of its global income. >> these companies are taking us seriously and under the new law we'll have even stronger powers. the companies are increasingly understanding as well that data protection is important with trust with their customers so customers might go elsewhere or may even use these platforms less if they d't take data protection seriously as well. >> reporter: despite brexit, britain is enthusiastically embracing the new european regulations and aspires become a world leader in data protection.
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damian collins, chairs parliament's digital aia committee, and favors international cooperation to ensure european standards go global. >> in the past wve been largely reliant on the tech companies telling us they are he law without the power to peer behind the curtain and see what they are actually doing.go there ar reasons why the facebook algorithm shouldn't be made public. but it doesn't mean that independent authority to make sure they're complying with the law. >> reporter: but consumer advocacy groups like open rightc aren't con by the government's promise to be the heternet's police force. some critics sayules are too broad. jim killock is the executive director. >> governments are allowed to do more or less what they like when it comes to data w.hin governme they've t lots of exceptions that's a problem because government simply thinks the rules shouldn't apply to them. >> reporter: despite ps to reinforce the firepower of the information commissioner, killock worries about the wriggling ability of big data companies, with their multi- billion dollar war chests.
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>> enforcement is going to be a problem because big companies do have a huge amount of resource but also the number of officials is small. >> reporter: this presentation by facebook founder markbe zuck in san jose earlier this month, was his first public appearance, following hisli gr by congress over the data harvesting scandal involving the british firm cambridge analytica. >> this has been an intense year. >> the idea that mr. zuckerberg has that the world should be an open place where everyone knows everhing about everybody is absurd and it's dangerous. >> reporter: mark weinstein has set up a social media company called mewe that doesn't rely on advertising. if, for example his mbers wanta to post extrvideos or have a secret chat service they have to pay for it. weinstein is longtime privacy campaigner, but his comments have to be seen through the prism of being a business rival to facebook. >> privacy is an innate human
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right. it's almost part of the social contract for being ali ads, to censorship, no algorithms. >> i've got accounts with facebook, google, instagram, twitter and youtube, and it's now investigating to see just how many cookies arout there.ra i've got 75cking me. >> what i've learned this year is that we year is that we need to take a broader view of our responsibility. it's not enough just to build powerful tools, we need to make sure they' used for good. it's very interesting that facebook have taken a preemptive measure against these new rules ming into place and they've moved 1.5 billion facebook users out of the european jurisdiction. >> reporter: zuckerberg's address to european m.p.'s is
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being seen in london as a snub to t british parliament. >> what we've said is that he won't accept to come to the u.k. to give evidence to themm tee we will issue a summons against him the next time he enters the jurisdicthen of.k. authorities demanding at that point that hev does givence. >> reporter: digital experts on thiside of the atlantic believe that the new european regulations will ultimately benefit americans if they decide they are being short changed by internet giants and demand the same levels of protection now available in europe. for the pbs newshour, i'm malcolm brabant in london. >> nawaz: it's a monday eveng in a midterm election year, which means voters somewhere are heading tohe polls tomorrow. this time it's primary voters in georgia, kentucky and arkansas,
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and a runoff in tetos. ive us an early look at what to watch, i'm joined by amy walter of "the cook political report" and stuart rothenberg ot inside ens. welcome, amy and stu. let's talk about some of the primary races, two in particular, georgia and texas ve caught a lot of people's attention. georgia the battle of stacey abrams and stacey evans and texas the runoff between laura moser and lizzie fletcher. amy, what do we know about the democrats now? twhat do t races tell us about where they are right now? >> i thinthe most important thing you mentioned at the beginning is, if you noticed, almost all the names were female. also we have a contest in question kentucky where there's a woman in a very competitive primary. so women have been a big story of this 201election. in either case, we're going to see a woman come out of one of these primaries and bthe nominee. there's some debate. a lot of it is centered in washington about whher there's the ideological battle going on
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in the democratic side between the bernie coalition and the more centrist hillary clinton coalition. i think what's happening is stylist than standtive, it's about the real fervdeor on the cratic side not just to turn out and vote and put more democrats in office and be a check on president trump, but the do it in a way that brings in a whole bunch of new peop. what you're seeing in both the texas and georgia rice, one democrat is sayiif we're going to win, we've got to do it by bringing out younger voters, voters of color, peoplewho don't normally turn out in midterm elections. you're not going to do that with a mealy-mouthed moderate message. the other democrats saying the onlyay we win in places like georgia and texas, you've got to win republicans. these are not overwhelmingly democratic areas. so that's really what we're going to be watching for in the primary and how they translate ohat. whoever wins has translate that investigation in a general election. >> nawaz: stu, what do you think about that?
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we're talking about the battle of the soul. >> i think amy is being very kind. i think in many cases reporter analysts are trying to impose a single interpretation on ever race throughout the country. i think the texas seven race with fletcher and moser isn establishment versus conservative progressive flight. moer is the benders progressive, hold your feet to the fire. the georgia race is much less, so right, amy? ere's a racial component here. we have an african-american n, andand a white woma it's true the traditional argument was nominate the white woman who can hold the african-americans and yet get white voters otherwise.as >> nawaz: thathe safe bet, right in. >> that was the safe bet. otherwise, this race isn't really the ideologicarace. >> nawaz: and right, this
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would be the first african-american woman governor ever in the country. so that you have to look to as the moreotivating factor than whether this iso idelogical. >> but does it say something ngout where the party is heading when you're loos to who they're choosing to support or endorse in these cases? >> both parties are divided. they have multiple wings and are trying to figure out how do we get along here and nominate candidates who can appeal to ad brectrum of voters and have enough charisma and energy to bring out the base? >> right. and this is the other issue inn this elect so much of -- especially on the democratic side, the candidates are coming, this is organic. these people just decided one day th were going to run, the trump party energized them. the parties go out, recruit, maybe an insurgence they didn't
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cexpect, in this thise there are five or six or seven candidates they never talked to, theyngon't have anyto do with the party and they may be the standard bearers. they're going to havcatch up to where the candidates are as opposed to where the candidates catch up with the party. >> nawaz: let me ask where some of the candidates may end on capitol hill. they hit road bunks failed to pass the bill friday. is the republican at war witsself right now? >> stu made this coment, they're always at war with themselves. and this is proven time and again to be an ungovernable caucusn the republican side, ight, time and again it's the freedom caucus thnds to put the leadership in a rightly tight position.at on immin, i think we see the bigger internal battle with ty between the p hard liners and now president trump is over on that side talk abou about m.s.-13 and
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sanction and border securities, and more moderate republicans who have to go back in november and talk to more centrist voters with a message tha is not hard lined. >> there is a reason john boehner last sod long, the party couldn't figure out who would take the job. paul ryan became speaker because the party was looking for alternatives. ryan said no and finally they had to g ryan. leading this group is very difficult. the nature of politicalr leadership is difficult when you have the outside forces competing against theis estaent. >> speaking of leadership, i exnt to ask you, stu, in reaction to thes shooting last week, we heard from senate majority leader mcconnell calling it a senseless act olof ce, we haven't heard a plan. is this where we are now? is this just the way it will move forward? states will have to step up if they want to see some action?
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>> yeah, i can't imagine the hill doing anything in the nefu re. you're seeing some states address the issue in terms of gun control or access to guns. no, it's going to have to be in the states. the only way guns is a national issue has to do with the mid-term elections and a motivati mobilizing college-educated white women who have simply had it now with guns and shootings and school shootings. >> that's the core group that could become a core issue. >> otherwise the states are going to have take the lead. >> and not just those women but also younger voters who have been marching in the strees, are going to show up to the ballot box? >> we'll see, indeed, in midterms ahead. amy walter, stu rotheerg, good to talk to you, thanks for being here. >> you're welcome.
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>> nawaz: before we go tonight, we remember the victims of the hool shooting in santa fe, texas, in which ten people were killed, and 13 others inred. they were sons and daughters, siblings, parents, spouses and grandparents and, of course, students and teachers. these are the ten people who died in friday's shooting and what frien and family have said about them. oored black turned 17 just two days before the ng. his family planned to have a poolside birthday party for him this past weekend. his half-brother, nick black said "my broth loved to play minecraft on xbox, play pokemon go on his cellphone, and loved t." jared was in the art room whensh thting started. 16-year-old shana fisher also recently had a birthday. she, too, was in the art room at the time of the attack. a childhood friend said "she stood up to bullies for me when rc were little."
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christian riley , 15 years old, had "grown up in the church," a texas pastor who baptized him wrote on facebook. garcia was waiting for his new home to be built when was killed. 15-year-old aaron ky mcleod had a reputation for finding humor even in dark situations. "he was never one toe a sad or down person, he always had to joke or laugh about things," a ose friend said about hi glenda ann perkins was a beloved substitute teacher at santa fe high school. her relatives said she would ve wanted faculty and students "to remember to keep their hearts open, to discuss their feelings with family members, friends, and counselors in order to successfully conquer this tragedy." sabika sheikh was a 17-year-old exchange student from pakistan who was planning to return home within weeks. her father abdul azikh said she wanted to be a diplomat to represent her cou secretary of state mike pompeo said she was helping to build ties betwe the us and pakistan.
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angelique ra member of the santa fe church's uth ministry and is remembered by a pastor as "a sweet young lady" with her own style. christopher stone, 17, was one of several students who blocked a classroom door to try to stop the attack. but he was struck by gunfire ten the gunman shot throu door. his father said, "helways there if someone needed someonee to lor some cheering up," cynthia tisdale, 63, was a substitute teacher at santa fe high school and a grandmother of eight. a family member said "words don't explain her lust for life and the joy she got from helping people." kim vaughn w also in art class on friday when her school came under attack. her mother rhonda hart posted on facebook saying "we need gun control. we need to protect our kids." and that's the newshour for
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