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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: g judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, president trump raises doubts about the upcoming summit with north korea during a meeting at the white house with south korean leader moon jae-in.ma thenng sure a diploma means a future-- why chicagols public schre requiring students to plan out their next steps before graduation. and, distraction-free entertainment: how performers and venues are pushing crowds to live in the ment without their phones. >> i see how it distracts peop. i used to make requests of the audience, phone during the show, and they can't honor the request. >> woodruff:ll that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> and with the ongoing support of these ititutions: >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributionsioo your pbs stfrom viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: there's new uncertainty tonight about president trump's planned summit with north korea's k jong-un. mr. trump met today with south korea's leader, and said the meeting with kim might be delaye that's after the north had threatened to cancel it.ve we'll full report, after the news summary. the president also talked today of a new way to penalize chinese telecom giant zte. last month, the company was barred from importing american
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parts, after it admitted shipping u.s. technology to iran. in recent days, mr. trump suggested easing that ban. today, he floated a new plan. >> what i envision is a very large fine of more than a billion dollars. could be a billion-three.si i en a new management; a new board and very, very stricts security rnd i also that they will have to buy a big percentage of their parts and equipment from american companies. >> woodruff: the president faces criticism in congress, from both paoies, that he's giving in chinese pressure. palestinian leaders appealed today for the international criminal court to investigate alleged crim by israel. they cited military killings along the gaza border and israeli settlement policies. israel called the actionge "outs," and charged palestinians have incited the violence.
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in afghanistan, a blast in kandahar killed 16 people, when security forces tried to dispose of a container full of explosives. 38 others were wounded. dozens of stores and homes were destroyed or damaged by the explosion. the bombs were found in a cluster of car mechanic shops in the southern city. facebook founder and c.e.o. mark zuckerberg faced tough questioning in europe today. he testified before top european lawmakers in brussels. andy davies of independent television news filed this report. >> reporter: it began with a handshake with the president of the european parliament, who looked like he meant business. and he went on to tell the b facebookoss that democracy can't be turned into a marketing operation. and then in the meeting, with zue parliament's political leaders, came mrerbergs familiar mournful statement. >> we didn't take a broad enougn view of our rebility and
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that was a mistake and i'm sorry for it. >> reporter: it was an apology that someone in the room clearly knew was coming. >> the fact that maybe you have maybless control or no contr about your own company for the moment, because i think in total you have apologized now 15 or 16 times the last decade. >> reporter: the format was a succession of questions first before a note-taking, listening mark zuckerberg who gave insurance on the recurring these: fake news and integrity of elections. >> in 2016, we were too slow to identify russian interference on facebook in the u.s. presidential election. >> reporter: this week, as the european union introduces it's landmark general data protection regulation rules, or g.d.p.r., where by organizations will neee explicit c before processing e.u. citizens data. >> a number of you asked, when we expect to be fully compliant
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with g.d.p.r. regulations. we do expect to be fully compliant on may 25th. >> reporter: questioned, too, over concerns of political bias was influencing facebook, he untered with this. >> we have never and will not make decisions aboutishat content allowed or how we do ranking on the basis of a political orientation. >> reporter: next stop paris and a meeting with the french president. >> woodruff: that report from andy davies of independent television news. the president of venezuela has expelled the top u.s. diplomat in t country, and his deputy nicolas maduro claimed today they've conspired against his government. the white house has called maduro's ection win on sunday a "sham." back in this country, texas governor greg abbot a series of roundtables on school safety. it follows friday's attack that killed 10 people in santa fe, texas. abbot met today with school
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safety experts and law enforcers. he'll also speak with lawmakers, community leaders and ctims. the u.s. house gave final approval today to relaxing the dodd-frank banking law passed after the 2008 meltdown. the new bill eases rules on community and regional banks. and on wall street, the dow jones industrial average lost nearly 179 points to close at 24,834. the nasdaq fell 15 points, and the s&p 500 slipped eight. still to come on the newshour: the high-stakes summit withno north korein question. g.house freedom caucus leader on the divide in thp. chicago: where passing grades is not the only requirement for graduation, and much more. we
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>> woodruff: aeported earlier, president trump today voiced doubts about whether next month's planned summit with kim jong-un would proceed as planned. as nick schifrin reports, mr. trump and his south korean counterpart met today at a crucial moment. >> schifrin: in the oval office today, president trump blended a handful ofope with a pinch of perspective. hope that his planned summit with north korean leader kim jong-un coulcreate a historic peace. >> he has a chance to doat something maybe never been done before. he will be safe, happy, his country will be rich.ko norta really has the chance to be a great country. and i think they should seize the opportunity and we'll soon find out whether they want to do that. >> schifrin: and that perspective, that maybe the summit won't even happen. >> there are certain conditions gwe want, and i think we' those conditions, and if we
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don't we don't have the meting. thers a chance it will work out, there's a very substantial chance it won't work out. that doesn't mean it won't work out over a period of time. but it may not work out for june orth. >> schifrin: north enters the summit presenting itself as a ll-fledged nuclear state whether and how the country denuclearizes is at the negotiation's core. noh korean officials have expressed interest in slow, step-by-step denuclearization, and step-by-step american incentives. president trump said today he'd prefer, but wouldn't iist, on swift denucleraization. >> it would certainly be better if it were all in one. does it have to ? i don't think i want to totally commit myself. but all in one would be a lot bett. or at least, for physical reasons, over a very short period of time. >> schifrin: the go-between for trump and kim has been south korean president moon jae-in, who pushes peace in part by praising the president.ed >> ( transl ): i have no doubt you will be able to accomplish a historic feat that no one has been able to achieve
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in the decades past. >> schifrin: senior administration officials describe this moment to the newshour as brinksmanship, between two men who don't want to be the one to cancel, or be cancelled on. president trump said his blend of hope and perspective, comes from his past experience in business. >> i've made a lot of deals. i know deals i think better than anyone knows deals. you never really know. >> schifrin: as of now, the administration continues to plan as if the summit will happen, but suggests that reporters who plan on going, book refundab tickets. we take a closer look now atan today's meetinthe prospects for next month's summit with balbina hwang, who served in the state rtment during the george w. bush administration. she is now a visiting professor at georgetown university.d ffrey lewis is the director of the east asia nonproliferation program at middlebury institute of international studies at monterey.so he is ounding publisher of the blog, "arms control wonk." welcome to you both. jeffrey lewis, if i could start with you, why is president moon of south korea here?
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what's hismission? i think he has one overriding mission, and that's to save the summit between president trump and kim jong-un.nt from presioon's perspective, he wants to improve relations with north korea, but he can'tdo that unless the united states is also doing the same thing. so if he wants what he wants, he has to get that summit to happen. >> schifrin: and balbina hwang, is that right? is president moon here to save the summit? >> oh, abolutely, andnot only, that president moon has one mission, and this is to preven war on the korean peninsula. >> schifrin: and trying to keep some of the rhetoric that we heard las year down. i want to play some comments for th of you by the national security adviser john bolton to facebook news about four weeks ago. >> we have very much in mind thy model from 2003/2004. there are obviously differences. the lihyan program was muc smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made.
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>> schifrin: bolton is talking about a deal on denuclearization in 2003. of course, in 2011 he ended up dead in a ditch. so jeffrey lewis, what was bolton's intention by bringing up the libya model? >> well, you know, in his memoir, bolton bragged about using diplomacy to actually advance other gols, so h bragged about sending a delegation off to pyongyang, feeling that he had sabotaged them and knowing that it had collapsed. my guess is he was bringing up qaddafi not because it is a model for disarmament but because he knew it would annoy the north koreans, and, in fact, it did. i think we saw the north korean statement the other day singled lton out and made it very clear that libya was not a precedent they liked. >> schifrin: balbina hwang, was that right?th wanational security adviser trying scuttle this summit or somehow convreince noh ans that the u.s. wasn't serious about diplomacy? >> absolutely.
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libya is a red line that everybody knows isin some that north korea will not accept. now, on the other hand, it is also the sort of ereme that we set up going into negotiations so that you know that that is the furthest line that you know that is the extent to which is the hard line, the extreme. now, we also know that president trump is the negotiator. that's how he presents himself. that's how he is the deal maker. and when president trump is goinsuinto thmit, that is what he says that he's going to do. he's going to come out with a deal. and so that is how he is going to go in, andtlhat's exachow he wants to set it up. and so north korea is obviously going to come out and say, we're not going to go into a summit th this kind of a deal. so of course he's going to do that. and i think that's exactly h
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bolton is setting it up. >> schifrin: so you'gg ting it could help. this is something important, for the u.s. public or for the u.s.v tothis hard line going into the summit, that it's helpful? >> exatly. >> schifrin: jeffrey lewis, should there be a summit, we heard a lot of doubt about this today, and what do you expect to come out of the summit if itgo indeed forward on the 12th? >> i think the answer to whether there should be a summit is it depends, and i think it depends on whether the president goes in with realistic expectations. i don't think the north koreans are planning on disming and offering up their nuclear weapons. the real question is are the north koreans going to offer something short of that, a prolonesd moratorium onting missile, a continued pledge not to test nuclear weapon, maybe a pledge not to export those technologies so you have to look at th likely north korean concessions, what they're likely to put on the table and ask, is that something you want? the nightmare scenario for me is
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that john bolton's counselin private is not preparing the president for this. he's getting him ready to expect a surrender from kim. when that doesn't help, will the president settle for less or throw a tantrum and walk out. >> schifrin: balbina hwang, should there be lowered expectations for the sum?>> ell, is the summit really about the process of denuclearization or disarmament, or is it really about politics and a political pr i would argue that this really is about a political process, and if so, then, y, ther should be a summit. and possibly there will be one. >> schifrin: jeffrey lewis, quickly, is there any risk if in this summit with the u.s. alliance with south korea? >> i think there is some risk. you know, we're entering into this period where there are a lot of tensions. president moon is a no guessive, but he's also quit nationalistic. i think he's quite negative about the u.s. presence in the country. and president trump has insisted
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that south korea pay more. so my fundamental concern is i the summit goes badly, we don't want a situation where president moon decides that the big threat isn't m jong-un, it's donald trump. >> schifrin: interesting. balbina hwang, do some people in south korea believe the president is not kim jong-un but actually donald trump? >> i think thisshe single biggest underestimated risk is the alliance. this is the one thing that we e not looking at. the whole summit is unfortunately played as beeen the united states and north korea, and what we're not looking at is the third actor,ko which is souta and the u.s. alliance with south korea. >> schifrin: and therefore, is there risk to this alliance, especially if the summit doesn't go well? >> absolutely. especially if the sum doesn't occur at all t alliance could be at risk. >> schifrin: balbina hwang, jeffrey lewis, thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> woodruff: conservative members of the house freedom caucus called today for the appointment of a second special counsel to look into the f.b.i. and department of justice. i spoke a short time ago one member of the freedom caucus, congressman jim jordan of ohio. you said today that you are "sick and tired of toue run arounde been getting from the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein," you want a second special counsel appointed. why?at >> becausrney general jeff sessions has stated that onlyao under exinary circumstances do you have special counsels. will, how about the fact that five of the top people at the f.b.i. have been fird or demoted and reassigned? mes comey has been fired, deputy director andrew mccabe has been fired, there is a criminalhereferral because lied three times under oath acording to the inspector general,eputy director of
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counterintelligence peter struck has been demoteed and reassigned. f.b.i. counsel jim baker has been demoted and reasf.signed. i. counsel lisa page has been demoted and reassigned. five of the top people demoted, reassigned, and in some cases fired. if that isn't extraordinary, someone define to me what is. these five people while they were working in the obama administration ran the clinton investigation d launched the russia investigation into president trump and his campaign. they did the dossier.ey aybe were involved in what we've seen, this possible informant issue. so for al those reaons, it warrants a second special counsel. >> woodruff: well, as you know, congressman, the deputy attorney general is a republican, appointed by this administration, the head of thet f.b.i., chher wray, a republican, appointed by this administration. why not have confidence ih tem, le them -- >>n't care if they're republican, democrat,de ndent, i don't care. i care about getting the information. we've asked repeatedly for
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information. repeatedly they've denied it. we've caught the department of justice withholding information. one text message talked about the relationsh peter had with the fisa court judge who happened to be the judge whol heard michynn's case. they redacted that. they didn't want us knowing th peter struck and the judge were friends. why? when you catch the f.b.i. -- excuse me, the department of justice withholding information from congress for no good reason, that puts everything else und this cloud a little suspect. >>uff: do you think they lied to you or misled you? cted know they have reda that portion of the text messagd from struck age that talked about the relationship mr. struck had with judge contreras. they redacted that. why? is that classified? no? is it part of an ongoing investigation. no. they just didn't want us to know it, and for some reason it wasre cted. that's been the history. they've told us we're entitled on the jiciary and ovesight
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committee, approximately 46,000 documents. we've received approximately 15,000. at the pace we're going, we'll be well into predent trump's second term before we ever get the information that they told us we're entitled to as members of the separate and equal branch of government. >> woodruff: if this doesn't happen quickly, congressman jordan, are you prepared to honor the work that the special counsel is doing? >> no one isalking about the special counsel. we're talking about getting information. but what we do knothink about, this those five people who have been fired, dteed, or reassigned, they took an opposition research orcument, paidy the clinton campaign, took it to the findsa court to get a warrant to spy a fellow american citizen. they didn't tell the court who wrote the document, thathe guy who wrote the document had been fired by the f.b.i., and they didn't tell the court whoaid for it. when we go to court, judy, wete have tl the whole truth, nothing but the truth, all the truth, but f.b.i. went to cout and didn't do the same thing. that's a problem.
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>> woodruff: i want to move on to something else. inside the republican caucus, in the house of representae ves, the clearly serious divisions. republicans did not support the. p. leadership, what the g.o.p. leadership wanted last week with regard to the farm bill. is speaker ryan in trouble? should -- do you believe he's going to see out his term as speaker? >> i do think that. there'plenty of time to g farm bill done. wewant to get a farm bill across the finish line, one tha rk requirements for folks in the snap and food stamp program. now the focus is getting immigration policy right. because the american people were sry clear about making sure we built the bordurity wall, we did the right thing on immigration. aret's what we conservatives focused on getting done, because that was a paramount issue in e last campaign >> i'm also asking you about the leadership. since this was a basically a repudiation of what the leadership was asking for, are we now looking at a situation
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where speaker ryan's job is in jeopardy? >> it wasn't a repudiation. it was saying we should have a focus on doing the right immigration policy, after all, some of our colleagues are bringing forth a dischargeh position whiowd bring to the floor and the end result would be a bill that is not ofnsistent with the mandat the 2016 i election. we're focused, we conservatives who oppose thatarm bill are dcused on getting the right immigration polie, one that is consistent with what we told the american people we would do. >> woodruff: finally, more thanms100 bers of the tea party move. are urging do you run for speaker of the house. are you going to do that? >> if and when there is a race, i plan to be part ot conversation. right now the focus has to be on what we do as republicans to make sure we're inajority. more importantly, who the speaker is next year is what republicando this year. we better get focused on the things the american people elted us to do, accomplishing those things, and first and foremost in that is the right kind of immigration legieaslatin
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that with the border security wall, deals with chain migration, deals with theisa lottery. that's what we have to focus on. >> woodruff: should there be a new election for speaker before the election? >> the speaker has been clear, he's going to stay until after the election. i think that'sust fine. >> woodruff: congressman jim jordan of ohio, thank you very much. >> thank you, jud >> woodruff: i'm joined now by our white house correspondent yamiche alcindor and by lisa desjardins at the capitol. welcome to you both. so lisa, we heard from congressman jordan not only about the special counsel but the other thing he's asking for is that the justice department release a trove of classified documents, turn it over to congress. what is e conversation o capitol hill about that? >> i think as you got out of congressman jordan, there is a real concern from some conservatives that the f.b.i. abused its power. however, judy, from othe republicans and from conservatives, there are two other worries, one that those conservatives are going too far
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too fast. they say let thenspector general of the department of justice, who is working on this issue, finish tha investigation. the other concern is even broader, jud i heard this on both sides of the capitol, they're worried this is changing the rules of the game, how classified intelligence is handled. they're worried by allowing somc members, who mplain in some cases to have access to this kind oftnformation that sets a very bad precedent. also there are concerns thaton republicans are invited to talk about this information, not democrats. urgely these things are bipartisan. >> woodruff: so yamichelet's pick up on that. the president has asked chief of staff general john kelly to wors ting up meetings, to talk about these documents, what should be released. what have you learned abou?t tha >> well, president trump is one year into making the case that he's a victim of overreaching by the department of justice, and these documents and thear ments about them really are being used to build that case. president trump said that he in a meeting today when asked, he
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said he wanted to get to the bottom of this, that congress wants to know, but essentially it's that republican lawmakers want to know. i want to read off some of then peoplee meeting, it's going to be f.b.i. director christopher wray. it's going to the director of national intelligence. it's going to be rtiresen trey gowdy and chairman nunez. what we see is not just any kinr publicans, what we see there are people who have been making the case that this president a victim of really a political campaign to get him out of office and for people who don't like him. so i think it's really important to not just think about the fact that there are no democrats there, but the republicans are people who are very vocal supporters of the prdrident. >> woof: almost a foregoneng conclusion gn. >> yeah. >> woodruff: lisa, different subject, as we know, more conversation today about where the trade talks stanwith china. several strands to that. both at theation white house and at the capitol. saat are you hearing about that? what are lawmakering? >> this is one of the topics that came up the most today.
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it started this morning with a tweet from senator marco rubio. a former oppo president this morning tweeting out that sadly china is outnegotiating the administration and winning the trade talk right now. that's about as sharp of a a critiqthis president who sold himself as a negotiator as there can be. arday what's happened in congress is i rom republicans especially they're concerned that the president's policyn trade is scattered, and, in fact, we saw today some actual actn not just words, judy. the house banking committee passed out of its committee a broad bill that would overhaul the way the u.s. looks at foreign investment. it would in some ways make it tougher for chieese instors and chinese businesses that we think are security threats to get through. in that bill, ju v, was ay specific amendment that would stop the president from being able to roll back sanctions on chinese companies like gte. that's the company that's been in the headlines.
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i think yamiche will talk about enit. the pressays he wants to help. the senate today, judy, went the other way and said to the president,, no you should not be able to roll back these sanctions. there is a political war within the president's trade war. >> woodruff: fascinating. and yamiche, meantime, there are some reports today that the administration has reached some kind of deal with china over the gte question, which has been hanging out there, what, forren ow? days >> yes, and the president when asked about it today said that there is no deal. he said thate also is pushing running circles around him. the idea is that the prident wants to make the case that he is being really, really tough on china, and he says the u.s. has been losingr for yeas $500 billion a year in chinese trade. so the idea is that ts president is feeling like he has to be on the offense. today sarah sanders was asked about this today, and she said senator schumer, she pointed to senator schumer and said his criticism is vtry partisan, she didn't talk about the fact
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that marco rubio is also someonh oue criticizing the president, and what we see there is the president really feeling as though even hist own pary on this is questioning his leadership they're trying to have a united front and look strong, but there are cracks with these trade negotiations. >> wdruff: still a long way to go before this is figured out. finally, lisa, something else going onapat theitol. the senate has apparently come to some kind of agreement on how to deal with sexual harassmentms clnside the congress. tell us about that. you have been following this story and breaking news on it. >> that's right. we at pbs newshour were among first -- we were first to lear today that there is a deal in the senate after these many months of this question of the les about sexual harassment and n congress being in limbo, waiting for congressmen to act on the rules, now there is a deal between republicans and democrats in the senate, a remind their the rules here inar the capito just basically universally seen as archaic and
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unfair to those victims of sexual harassment. a curently, judone accusing someone of harassment has to wait 90 days and go through forced counseling and mediation. here's whas in this deal in the senate. it would take away that 90-day delay, and it would mae members of congress personally l hble. they woue to personally pay for any sexual har asment findininst themselves for their behavior, however, the senate did make one change from the house. those members of congress would not be personally liable for their staff behavior. so we expect this to moverw d pretty quickly. it's taken a long time. this is a big deal for people who work here inre cong in a statement from our lawmakers. >> woodruff: so have they reached final agreement? >> i wouldn't say final. we have to wait for the vote, but this has great momentum. there are not any problems for it right now. >> woodruff: lisa darjns at the capitol, thank you for your reporting on that. yamiche alcindor for a your reporting at the white house. thank you both.
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>> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: a pushback against using cell phones during concerts. and "the restless wave"-- a new book from the "maverick," senator john mccain.w our special look at "rethinking college" this graduation seasost ouies have been focused on programs that are helping lower- income students climb dder to economic stability. tonight, we head to chicagone where there's plan to make erre kids pursue a college degree or have anoiable career path after high school. hari sreenivasan has the story for our weekly segment, making the ade." >> sreenivan: students at north-grand high school in chicago know their teachers have high expectatis.
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>> we have talked so mh about g.p.a., and how every assignment and every class counts. >> sreenivasan: but on this day, freshman seminar teacher brett murphy upped the ante. >> the class that has the highest overall g.p.a. will getd to shave my heright here in the middle of the classroom, will shave my head. >> sreenivasan: a high school on academic probation just five years ago, north grand's new focus on raising grades has transformed them into a topng perforchool, even before teacher murphy decided to have fun with the idea. >> the first person will take an electric razor and zoom it across my head. the next student will lather my head up with a bunch of shaving cream. >> sreenivasan: north grand high principal, emily feltes.of >> the idereshman seminar came because we wanted to help our kids learn how to do highol scho successfully getting them into this mindset of college is possible, i am capable. >> sreenivasan: the r is part of a new city-wide strategy
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to get students prepared for life after high school. it's called learn, plan, succeed. by 2020, in order to get a cdiploma from chicago pub schools, a student will have to prove that they have a job, wili be j a trade school, will go on to college, or join the military. >>igh school degree doesn' cut it anymore. >> sreenivasan: the idea came from chicago's mayor, rahm emanl. >> you have to show either a letter ofm college, acceptance, a letter of acceptance from community college, a letter of acceptance from a branch of the armed anrces or a letter of acce from a trade school. that will give you and us the confidence that you have a plan for the future. you're not just dropping off the cliff on high school graduation day. >> sreenivasan: is that the responsibility of the city of chicago? >> it's a responsibility to the kids of the city of chicago, yes. >> sreenivasan: north-grand senior joshua zayas was accepted at eight schools. neither his parents nor his older brothers went to college. >> their high school didn't really push them to excel to the next level.ke here, t's a requirement. >> sreenivasan: but zayas has reasons beyond the districts
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expectations. last year, his 19-ye-old brother, who he says took the wrong path, was shot and killed. >> seeing where he dropped out, how his life went, that was something that actually motivated me. i honestly don't want to struggle like that, that's my deal, i just don't want to i struggle. nt to have my career and i'm set, happy, home and everythinge from. >> sreenivasan: should the city be worried about what happens af>>r graduation? think it's a moral imperative to be worried about what happens for our children i think that the old days of, you know, we've got you graduated, out of hiool, are done. >> sreenivasan: according to janice jackson, the c.e.o. of chicago public schools, 60% of high school students already meet t graduation requirement. >> the other 40%, that's the group that we're most concerned about. what we're trying to do is ensure that the students who need it the most are the ones that are r >> sreenivasan: there's going to be people that say, listen, you just moved the goal line for what constitutes a diploma. a child has worked their 12 years, they should get this piece of paper without having to
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tell you what two more years looks like. >> i didn't move the goalposts, the economy did. companies today are looking for somebody with a minimum of something post-high school. >> sreenivasan: critics of chicago's plan question if cash- strapped schools will be able to anovide the support and gu a student needs to meet the new squirement. kristy brooks isool counselor and represents counsellors for the chicago teachers union. >> my main concerns are that we're not resourcing that plan. we n schools, and we need funds for that. >> sreenivasan: brooks wants the city to limit the student-to- counselor ratio and stop asking school counselors to perform duties that are outside their role as advisors. >> chicago public schools ranks 28th out of 30, on the very low end of counselor-to-student ratio. and principals have to allow counselors to actually do counseling work with kids. we can't be pulled to be counting tests all the time. we can't be pulled to do recess duty and lunch duty three hours a day.
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>> sreenivasan: do you have enough connselors? >> i think it's a situation where you need more counselors. i think we have to look at some of the duties that counselors have, and ybe relieve them of some of those. >> sreenivasan: this spring, the mayor tapped employees from its vast community college system to assist counselors and students with the new requirement. >> by integrating the community college system, 're ensuring a system that kids do not fall between the gap between high school and whatever else they do in life. >> sreenivasan: but some ask if e new advisors have the qualifications needed. >> what are their credentials? are they certified? scr'ol counselors hold maste degrees and licenses? do they know our kids? we get to know our kids. >> sreenivasan: at north grand p high school,ncipal emily feltes made the decision to hire more qualified school counselors. but to do so, she had to forgo some classroom technology, like computers and smart boards. >> the ratio is lower, and we have a full-time college coach, not all schools are as
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fortunate, or are in that shape. >> sreenivasan: and at north- grand some freshman already had plans for their future. >> once i get my degree to be as prsional basketball player. >> to be a culinary chef. >> i want to be a veterinarian.n >> sasan: but others remained skeptical that the new requirement was a good fit for >>all students. t our age we're still young, and still figuring out what we want to do with our li i think we should have more time to figure out where we want to go with our futures. >> sreenivasan: what's t scenario where a student can't omethese requirements and doesn't get a dipla? >> i'm telling you that scenario won't happen. i'm not saying this just out of hope or aspiration. we intervene before it's too late. >> sreenivasan: in chicago, for the pbs newshour, i'm hari sreenivasan. >> woodruff: these days, it's hard to go to a conct or show where people don't quickly pull out their phones to capture the moment or t their friends know
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they're there. but some artists and performers have had enough of that. jeffrey brown tells us about a start-up catering to that sentiment, and its ambitions for dialing back our phone use in a much bigger way. >> brown: a recent concert at the famed fillmore auditorium in san francisco, filled with music, and laughs. but note something missing: no smartphones held high capturingh proceedings. that's just the way comedianha daveelle wants it. >> i see how it distracts people. i used to make requests of the audience, could you e your phone during the show, and they can't honor the request. >> brown: they can't. >> oftentimes they cannot. neown, responsible, discip adults have a hard time watching a comedy show without the distction of their phone. we need a break from technology.
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>> brown: chappelle is part of a growing movement of comedians and musicians pushing backns agthe ubiquity of the smartphone, in the concert hall and in our lives. >> the phone ian addictive device. i don't know if you've ever los your pjust the anxiety you feel, it's almost like worse than losing a pack of cigarenges or somethi else that's addictive. >> brown: here in "high-tech central," with silicon valley nearby, companies large and small vie to produce and monetize the latest gadgets. but one local start-up, called yondr, is after something different-- prying them away, at least for a few hours. 31year-old graham dugoni is its founder. >> it's just going hey, here's a phone free show, here's a classroom, here's an event, or a wedding, you step into this space, while you're there, what happens there, stays there, it's socially acceptable to unplug. your nervous system can relax from kind of the call and response pattern of modern life.
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>> brown: it's deceptively simple: at large events a yondr team passes through the line, takes your phone and puts it in a locked pouch, which you get to hold onto. at the end of the night, your pouch unlocked. if you really need to use your ph available, a bit like smoking areas at the airport. dave chappelleikes the idea so much he's become an investor in yondr, which charges a fee to the performers or venues, not the phe users. some 400 artists and musicians have used yondr so far but for dugoni, yondr is as much a cause as it is a busines >> you know i think people looking for new ways t of live, and things that can center their lives. so, i see us as just part of that. creating, at a real functional, practical sense, just creating, helping people create device free spaces. >> brown: in the age of social media, people are experiencing art in new ways: exhibitions like the recent blockbuster by
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japanese artist yayoi kusama come instagram ready. "wired" magazine editor arielle pardes has written about art and technology. t >> it's not ju show that the artists put on for you, but it's actually you taking that, capturing it, remixing it, posting it on your instagram account, and turninginto your own version of art. >> brown: yeah, so the artat on the wall, or the music up on stage, no longer lives by itself?ly >> exaand i think artists are a little bit squeamish aboua that, undersably so. a lot goes into creating art. >> brown: in today's music world, social media cuts both ways. in part, it's a marketing device. at mt of his concerts, guitarist and singer john mayer phones, which help get the word out about his music. >> if that's howy ou want to ene show, i get it. i also have a phone in the dressing room, and i'll go do something at night and take a picture with it. >> brownin your career,
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though, you've watched that take off, that technology. >> yeah, but it's helped me. i can also promote things from bed, on my phone. >> brown: but when performin with dave chappelle, as on this night, he abides by other rules, and likes that too. >> it's become sort of unconscious thinking now, that when you sing something on stage, in front of people, a you have a bad note, you go well, that's going to make the tape. i'm working something out, dave is working something out, sometimes that has to be cumulative. i learned last night, okay, ith messed uchorus in my own song that i just wrote, i don't have to suffer the indignity of knowing that that lives in repetition in 50,000 views, >> brown: people in line at the fillmore seemed happy enough to play along. >> you paid a significant amount of money to see the pouformer. you see the performer. >> i'm not that guy taking pictures of the act. i'm going to experience that and let bit right here.
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>> peo tle don't havehat self-control, so i am all for it. lo it away. lockt up. >> brown: and yondr is now being used in other places. at weddings, for einmple, includserena williams', and in courtrooms and more than 1000 schools, like west potomac academy in northern virginia, where teacher nancy mantelli is happy to have her students full attention. >> cell phone use is a mental health issue. because i feel that the students are addicted to it. they simply can't put the phone down. so here am as an educator and a m trying to give them this neutral environmenfe environment to teach them. and that cell phone puts them right back into that that place where they're potentially ing bullied where they're getting harassed. >> brown: all this raises new questions, of course: does locking up a phone lime speech? who gets to decide what's a
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phone free zone, especially in a world where cameras can help monitor and expose bad behavior? yondr founder dugoni: >> what is the interplay between privacy and transparency in modern society, and the answer is, in a way, it's complicated. i think what's part of a o healthoing dialogue in a well-functioning society, is to understand that there aref choices, butu think, if anyone thinks endless transparency is going d to more freedom, i think that's naive, because it leads, it's a prison of its own. >> brown: d technology itself changes, like these recently released sglasses that capture video, potentially outstripping efforts like yon. >> i see it as a bit of a cat and mouse game. yondr is sort of fixing the problem of the iphone, but what about what comes next? >> brownfor now, though, dave
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chappelle thinks it's keeping the focus where it belongs. >> right. it's also about the quality of the performance. we always have this lueling of beiny like we're an ¡us'. us in this room, we're the only ones who get to see this or feel this. you're not thinking about outside the room, d it is kind of wonderful. >> brown: something to think about, for those on and off the stage.ne for the pbhour, i'm jeffrey brown in san francisco. >> woodruff: repubhncan senator ccain is known as a maverick-- familiar with toughfr fights prison camps in vietnam to the floor of the u.s. senate.as recently, heeen staying close to the arizona ranch he calls home, aseae undergoes ent for brain cancer. ndbut he still speaks his nd there are new glimpses this month into mccain's life and thinking.
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heand his family are part o new hbo documentary: "john mccain: for whom the bell" tollwhich debuts next monday. here's a look. >> come on verma. >> come on verma. >> come on honey. >> i got a phone call from my mom that said, "jack you're going to see some stuff in the news. your father has, has brain cancer. i'm with him right now. he knows his diagnosis and he's as he's always been, he said, 'alright let's push forward.'" >> you know these doctors keep talking to me about people who, if you tell them the truth then they just give up and die. that you really want to and i, i keep saying them, "just tell me, just tell me, that's all i want to know, you know." some say, "well it's, it's not good" and i say, "wellknow it's just--" and it really drives me crazy but then i talk to other doctor friends of mine and say that
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most people, that's not what they want to hear. ary wouldn't they want to you know? why wouldn't they want to spendo a fe days here, you know? m >> woodrufain's confrontation with cancer is also ever-present, whether explicitly or implicitly, in a new memoir out today. there are reflections about living and past decisions, but it also makes clear that mccain still has plenty to say, about america, society, and politics in the age of president trump. it is called "the restless wave" and mccain co-wrote it with onec of hse, long-time aides, mark salter, who joins me from new york. mark salter, thank you for being with us. give us an update on how senator mccain is doing. >> he's hanging in there. he's fighting, rking hard at getting stronger. he had an operation a couple weeks ago thdt knocked the wi out of him a little bit. but he's back home, and he's working on gettinstronger a still staying engaged with his
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g fice and doing all the things he wants to be doght now. >> woodruff: you have been writing books with him for, what, almost 20 year this is your seventh book together. >> that's right. k soundsuff: this b like it reads like he's still got a lot rolling around in his nd that he wants to get out there. "restless wave," what did heth mine b? >> it's a line from the navy hymn "eternal father" it refers to eternal father, strongest save, whose arm is bond thele re wave. people know that john mccain is a restless individual and only god can restrain him. we thought that was an appropriate title. >> woodruff: but a lot to getes off his >> he did. the we started working on the book before his diagnosis. it was a differt book. it was going the concentrate mostly on foreign affairs and national security, but ed want to write something more personal and tell stories about the causes that matter most to him ricathe write about what ame
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means to him and what america means to the world. >> woodruff: one of the m things he writes about, he rally covers his entire public career, he writes out choosing sarah palin as his running mate in 2008. he takes responsibility for the problems in that camand her role in it, but he also says he wishes he had chosen democratic senator joe leakman as his running mate. how much does that bother him? >> well, i think that was his first choice. he wanted to do it. he was persuaded by aides and senior members of the party that it would cause a divided convention and a challenge on the floor of the nominaon of his vice presidential pick and was convinced not to do it. he would have... loking back, he wished he had stuck with it. that's not to say he regrets choosing governor palin. there is a dtinction. i think people have mixed that up. but it's not.d once he deci was convinced he couldn't pick senator liebman, he chose govrnor palin and he never regretted it
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publicly or privately.a he's never saiword of regret about it. >> woodruff: he writes at some length about how much h he loved serving in the senate. he makes that very clear. his friendships across the partisan aisle. why has that been so important to him?>> ell, he served there for over 30 years. now a long time, and even before at he was the navy's senatece liaison of he got to know some of the lions of the senate back in thesc '70sot jackson, barry goldwater, john tower, traveled with them overseas quite a bit, had bipartisan friendship, becahe good friends withn younger members, gary hart, bill cohen, joe bide he's just -- it's a place that he's seen do enormous amount of good and work together collaboratively to make progress on the problems of our time, mething that he's worried is getting a little lost now. >> woodruff: moving around, there's so much in this
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book mark salter. he writes about getting a copy of the steel dossier, the report written by christopher steel, turning it over the then-f.b.i. director come ce is clear that he takes the russia interfern the last election seriously. what does he think about how other republicans see that? >> well, he thinks most of hisea coes in the senate take it pretty seriously. i'm sure he's been a it a littl, like many people who worry about putin and putin's challenge to the u.s. and his chaenge to american allies, you know, he probably worries a littl bit about some people in the house intelligence committee not taking it that seriously, but he takes it seriously. he's had a pretty good senfse putin going back all the way to the late '90s.wa he has beeing about him. so he thinks probably china is r long-term challenge, you know, over the next generation or the work but our immedi problem is vladimir putin.
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he would like the see members of congress and his part democratic party confront that challenge honstly and forcefully. >> woodruff: so much of this book or at least a good chunk reads like what he stands for is in opposition to what president trump stands for.ei he talk about a champion of compromise, being someone who believ in working with the other side, and toning down the harsh rhetoric and lets err -- air just a little bit of what hi himself rethe audio version. >> before i leave i would like to see our politics begin to return to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history from t history of other nations. i'd like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different. we're citizens of a republic made of shared ideals, forged in a new world to replace the tribal enmities that tormented e old one. even in times of political e rmoil such as these, we share that awesritage and a
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responsibility to embrace it, whether we think each other right or wrong in our views on the issues of the day,we each other our respect. and so long as o character merits respect, and as long as we share for all of ouror differences,ll the rancorous debates that sometimes demean our politics, a mutual devotion to the ideals our nation was conceived of hold, that all are crendated equal liberty and equal justice are the natural rights of all. >> woodruff: mark salter, that's a very different message from what's in the political atmosphere right now. why did he want to get that out? >> well, you kno, he has served in uniform and in public office. he's serd this couny for 60 years. quite a listening stretch of -- a long strtch of time. serving this country to him as meant serving her ideals to, see e em advance in the world and to see them safre at home. that's been the most just cause of h life, cause that he believes has given his life
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honor and purpose.n he is erned when he thinks we're losing sight of, that whether it's nativeism or america-first nationalism that is only concerned about getting what advantages there are in the world for us a and to helhl wit the rest of humanity. i don't want anyone to think, okd he wouldn't want anyone to think that this is just an anti-donald trump diatribe. it's not. they have differences on many issues that are very important to the senator, and he discusses those issues quite forthrightly, but the book is about a great deal more than that. it's about his love of this country and what it means to him and what it means to the word d what he hopes it will continue to mean to the world in the future he may not be h see. >> woodruff: how many of his republican colleagues in the senate does he think share those views? >> the vastriajo of them. >> woodruff: but why aren't we hearing from the does he think? >> i think you do. and a loof the work, you know, it's always the controversies that get all the attention for
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obvious reasons, but take a look at the committee he chairs, the armed services comittee. every year, year after year, that committee reports out its bill, the defense authorization bill, almost always unanimously, always in a bipartisan fashion, and everybody works collaboratively with a sense athat america's ership of the world is important to us and portant to the world. that doesn't get as much attention as noisier, more confrontational or controversial statements and actions on the part of some members of congress, but it's more the norm thanf:ot. >> woodrs he hopeful for the country's future? >> he believes... yes, he believes this country is a match for its challenges in the present and in the future. >> woodruf mark salter, w wrote the book with john mccain, "the restless wave: good times, just causes, great flights, and other appreciations". mark salter, we thank you. >> thank you, judy.
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we appreciate it. >> woodruff: and that bk is out today. on the newshour online right now, we have live video of the dramatic eruption at the kilauea summit in hawaii.n you tch that and more on our website, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: or >> the ffoundation. working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. >> carnegie corporation of new york. supporting innovations in education, democratic nt, and the advancement of international peace and security.
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