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captioning sponsored by newshour productionsllc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, president trump raises doubts about the upcoming summit with north korea during a meeting at the white house with south korean leader moon jae-in. then, making sure a diploma means a future-- why chicago public schools are requiring students to plan out their next steps before graduation. and, distraction-free entertainment: how performers and venues are pushing crowds to live in the moment without their phones. >> i see how it distracts people. i used to make requests of the audience, could you not use your phone during the show, and they can't honor the request. >> woodruff: all that and moreon tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: >> this program was made possible by the corporation for publicd roadcasting. contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. t >> woodrufre's new uncertainty tonight about president trump'wiplanned summit north korea's kim jong-un. mr. trump met today with south hekorea's leader, and said meeting with kim might be delayed. that after the north had threatened to cancel it. we'll have a full report, after the news smary. the president also talked today ne a new way to penalize c telecom giant zte. last month, the companm was barred fporting american parts, after it admitted
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shipping u.s. technology to iran. in recent days, mr. trump suggested easing that ban. today, he floated a new plan. >> what i envision is a very large fine of more thaa billion dollars. could be a billion-thr i envision a new management; a new board and very, very strict security rules and i also envision that they will have to buy a big percentage of their parts and equipment from american companies. >> woodruff: the president faces criticism in congress, from both parties, that he's giving in to chinese pressure. palestinian leaders appealed today for the international criminal court to investigate alleged crimes by israel. they cited military killingse along za border and israeli settlement policies. israelalled the action "outrageous," and charged palestinians have incited the violence. in afghanistan, a blast ind
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kandahar kil people, when security forces tried to dispose of a container full of explosives. others were wounded. dozens of stores and homes were destroyed or damaged by the explosion. the bombs were found in a cluster of carechanic shops in the southern city. facebook founder and c.e.o. mark zuckerberg faced tough questioning in europe toda he testified before top european lawmakers in brussels. andy davies of independent television news filed this report. >> reporter: it began with awi hand the president of the european parliament, who looked like he meant business. heand he went on to tell t facebook boss that democracy can't be turned into a marketing operation. and then in the meeting, with the parliament's political leaders, came mr. zuckerbergs familiar mournful statement. >> we didn't take a broad enough view of our responsibility and that was a mistake and i'm sorry
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for it. >> reporter: it was an apology that someone in the room clearly knew was coming. >> the fact that maybe you have maybe less control or no control out your own company for the moment, because i think in totao you havegized now 15 or 16 times the last decade. >> reporter: the formaonwas a succesf questions first o fore a note-taking, listening mark zuckerberg ve insurance on the recurring these: fake news and integrity of elections. >> in 2016, we were too slow to identify russian intnce on facebook in the u.s. weesidential election. >> reporter: thi, as the european union introduces it's landmark general data protection regulation rules, or g.d.p.r., where by organizationsill need explicit consent before processing e.u. citizensata. >> a number of you asked, when we expect to be fully compliant with g.d.p.r. regulations.
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we do expect to be fully compliant on may 25th. >> reporter: questioned, too, p over concerns itical bias was influencing facebook, he countered with this. >> we have never and will not make decisions about what content is allowed or how we do aranking on the basis of political orientation. >> reporter: next stop paris and a meeting with the french president. >> woodruff: that report from andy davies of independent television news. the president of venezuela has expelled the top u.s. diplomat in the country, and his deputy. nicolas maduro claimed today they've conspired against his governmente ite house has called maduro's election win on sunday" a "sha back in this country, texas governor greg abbot began adt series of roles on school atfety. it follows friday'ck that killed 10 people in santa fe, texas. abbot met today with school safe experts and law
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enforcers. he'll also speak witunlawmakers, coy leaders and victims. the u.s. house ge final approval today to relaxing the dodd-frank banking law passed after the 2008 meltdown. the new bill eases rules on community and regional banks. and on wall street, the dow jones industrial average lost nearly 179 points to close at 24,834. the nasdaq fell 15 points, and the s&p 500 slipped eight. still to come on the newshour: the high-stakes summit with north korea now in question. a house freedom caucus leader on the divide in the g.o.p. chicago: where passing grades is not the only requirement for graduation, and much more.
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>> woodruff: as we reportedie ea president trump today voiced doubts about whether nexl month'ned summit with kim jong-un would proceed as planned.in as nick schieports, mr. trump and his south korean counterpart met today at a crucial moment. >> schifrin: in the oval office today, president trump blended a handful of hope with a pinch of perspective. hope that his planned summit with n jong-un could create a historic peace. >> he has a ance to do something that's maybe never been done before. he will be safe, hpy, his country will be rich. north korea really has the chance to be a gre country. and i think they should seize the opportunity and we'll soon find out whether they want to do that. >> schifrin: and that perspective, that maybe the summit won't even happen. >> there are certain conditions we want, and i think we'll get those conditions, and if we don't we don't have the meting.
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there's a chance it will work out, there's a very substantial chance it won't work out. that doesn't mean it won't work out over a period of time. but it may not work out for june 12th. >> schifrin: north korea enters the summit presenting itself as a full-fledged nuclear state. whether and how the country clearizes is at the negotiation's core. north korean officials have expressed interest in slow, step-by-step denuclearization, and step-by-step american incentives. president trump said today he'd prefer, but wouldn't insist, on swift denuclerzation. it would certainly be better if it re all in one. es it have to be? i don't think i want to totally commit myself. tt all in one would be a better. or at least, for phyvecal reasons,a very short period of time. >> schifrin: the go-between for trp and kim has been south korean president moon jae-in, who pushes peace in part by praising the president. >> ( translated ): i have no doubt you will be able to tcomplish a historic feat that no one has been abachieve in the decades past.
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>> schifrin: seniormi stration officials describe this moment to the newshour as brinksmanship,tw betweemen who don't want to be the one to cancel, or be cancelled on. president trump said hislend of hope and perspective, comes from his past experience in business. >> i've made a lot of deals. r i know deals i think betan anyone knows deals. you never really know. >> schifrin: as of now, the administration continues to plan as if the summit wl happen, but suggests that reporters who plan on going, book refundable tickets. we take a closer look now at today's meeting and the prospects for next month's summit with balbina hwang, who served in the state department during the grge w. bush administration. she is now a visiting professor at georgetown university. and jeffrey lewis is the director of the east asia nonproliferation program at s ddlebury institute of international stud monterey. he is also founding publisher of the blog, "arms control wonk." welcome to you both. jeffrey lewis, if i could start with you, why is president moon of south korea here what's his mission?
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>> i think he has one overriding mission, andhat's to save the summit between president trump and kim jong-un. from president moon's perspecte, he wants to improve relations with north korea, but he can't do that unless the united states is also the same thing. so if he wants what he wants, he has to get tha summit to happen. >> schn:ifnd balbina hwang, is that right? is president moon here to save the summit? >> oh, absolutely, and not only, that president moon has one mission, and this is to prevent war on the korean peniifula. >> sn: and trying to keep some of the rhetoric that we heard last year down. i want to play some comments for both of you by the national security adviser john bolton to facebook news about four weeks ago. >> we have very much in mind the libya model from 2003/2004. erences.e obviously diff the libyan program was much smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made. >> schifrin: bolton is talking
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about a dealon enuclearization in 2003. of course, in 2011 he ended deup in a ditch. so jeffrey lewis, what was bolton's intention by bringing up the liby model? >> well, you know, in his memo, bolton bragged about using diplomacy to actuvaly e other goals, so he bragged about sending a delegation off to pyongyang, feeling that he had sabotaged them and knowing that it had collapsed. my gue is he was briging up qaddafi not because it is a model for disarmament but because he knew it would annoy the north koreansand, in fa, it did. i think we saw the north korean statement the other day singled bolton out and made it very clear that libya was not a precedent they liked. >> schifrin: balbina hwang, was that right? was the national security adviser trying scuttle this summit or somehow convince north koreaians that the u.s. wasn' serious about diplomacy? >> absolutely. libyis a red line that
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everybody knows is something that north korea will not accept. now, on the other hand, it is also the sort of extreme that we set up going into negotiations so that you know that thats the furthest line that you know that is the extent to which is the hardxt line, thereme. now, we also know that president trump is the negotiator. that's how he presents himself. that's h is the deal maker. and when president trump is going into the summit, that is what he says that he's going to do. he's going to come out with a deal. and so tt is how he ioing to go in, and that's exactly how p. wants to set it and so north korea is obviously going come out and say, we're not going to go into a summit with this kind of a dea. so of course he's going to do that. and i think that's eactly how bolton is setting it up.
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>> schifrin: so you're suggesting it could help. this i something important, for the u.s. public or for the u.s. to have this hard line going into the summit, that it's helpful? >> exactly. >> schifrin: jeffrey lewis,re should te a summit, we heard a lot of doubt about this today, and what do you eect to come out of the summit if it indeed goes forward on the 12th? >> i think the answer to whether there should be a summit is it depends, and i think it depends on whether the president goes in with realattic expens. i don't think the north koreans uce planning on disarming and offering up theirear weapons. the real question is are the north koreans going r offe something short of that, a prolonged moratorium on testing, miss continued pledge not to test nuclear weapon, maybe a pledge not to export thos technologies. so you have to look at the likely north korean concessions, what they're likely to put on the table and ask, is that something you want? the nightmare scenario for me is
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that john bolton's counsel in private is not preparing the president for this. he's getting him ready to expect a surrender from kim when that doesn't help, will the president settle for less or throw a tantrum and walk out >> schifrin: balbina hwang, should there be lowered expectations for the sum? >> well, is the summit reaoully the process of denuclearization or disarmament, or is it really about politics and a political process? i would argue that thills rea is about a political process, and if so, then, yes, there should ba summit. and possibly there will be one. >> schifrin: jeffrey lews, quickly, is there any risk if in this summit with the u.s. alliance with south korea? >> i think there is some risk. you know, we're entering into this period where there are a lot of tensidns. prt moon is a no guessive, but he's also quite i think he's quite negative about the u.s. presence in the country. and president ump has insisted
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that south korea pay more. so my fundn amental conc if the summit goes badly, we don't want a situation whre president moon decides that the big threat isn't kim jong-un, it's donald trump. >> schifrin: interesting. baina hwang, do someeople in south korea believe the president is not kim jong-un but acally donald trump? >> i think this is the single biggest underestimated risk is the alliance. this is the one thing that we are not looking at. the whole summit is unfortunately played as between the united states and northnd korea,hat we're not looking at is the third actor, which is south korea and the u.s. alliance with south kor. >> schifri and therefore, is there risk to this alliance, especially if the summit doesn't go well? >> absolutely. especially if the sum doesn't occur at all the alliance could be at risk. >> schifrin: balbina hwang, jeffrey lewis, thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> woodruff: conservativeou members of the freedom caucus called today for the appointment of a second sp lial counsel k into the f.b.i. and department of justice. i spoke a short me ago one member of the freedom caucus, congressman jim jordan of ohio. you said today that you are "sick and tired of the run around you've been getting from the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein," you want a second special counsel appointed. why? >> because attorney general jeff sessions has stated that only under extraordinary circumstances do you have special counsels. will, how about the fact that five of the top peop h at the f.b.e been fired or demoted and reassigned? james comey has been fired,ir deputytor andrew mccabe has been fired, there is a criminal referral because he lied three timerunde oath acording to the inspector general, deputy director of counterintelligence peter struck
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has been demoteed and reassigned. f.b.i. counsel jim bak been demoted and reassigned. f.b.i. counsel lisa pag has been demoted and reassigned. five of the top peopleo demted, reassigned, and in some cases fired. if that isn't extraordinary, someone define to me is. these five people while they were working in the obamaan administration the clinton investigation and launched the russia investigation intotr presidenp and his campaign. they did the dossier. they maybe were involved in what we've seen, this possible informant issue. so for all those reasons, it rrants a secnd special counsel. >> woodruff: well, as you know, congressman, the deputy i attorney genera republican, appointed by this administration, the head of the f.b.i., christopher wray, a republan, appointed by this administration. why not have confidence in them, let them -- >> i don't care if they're republican, democrat, independent, i don't care. etting theut information. we've asked repeatedly for information. repeatedly they've denied it.
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we've caught the department of justice withholding information. one textessage talked about the relationship peter had withj the fisa coudge who happened to be the judge who heard michael flynn's case. t they redactt. they didn't want us knowing that peter struck and the jud were friends. why? when you catch the f.b.i. -- cuse me, the department of justice withholding information from congress for no good reason, that puts ev else under this cloud a little suspect. >> woodruff: do you think they liis to you orled you? >> i know they have redacted that portion of the text message from struck and page that talkee about relationship mr. struck had with judge contreras. they redcted that. why? is that classified? no? is it part of an ongoing investigation. no. they just didn't want us to know it, and for some reason itas redacted. that's been the history. they've told us we're entitled on the judiciary and oversight
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committee, approximately 46,000 documents. we've received approximately 15,000. at the pace we're going, we'll be well into president trump's second term before we ever get the information that they told us we're entitled to as members of the separate and equal branch of government. >> woodruff: if this doesn't happen quicklycongressman jordan, are you prepared to honor the work that the special counsel is doing? >> no one is talking about the special counsel. we're talking about getting information. but what we do know, think about, this thoe five people who have been fired, demoteed, or reassigned, they took an opposition research document, paid for by the clint campaign, took it to the findsa court to get a warrant to spy on a fellow ameriticanzen. they didn't tell the court who wrote theth documentt the guy who wrote the document had been fired by the f.b.i., and they didn't tell the court who paid for it. when we go to court, judy, we have to tell the whole trutinh, nobut the truth, all the truth, but f.b.i. went to court and didn't do the same thing. that's a problem. >> woodruff: i want to move on to something else.
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inside treublican caucus, in the house of representatives, there are cleairly serous divisions. republicans did not support the g.o.p. leadership, what the g.o.p. leadership wanted last week with regard to the farm bill. is speaker ryan in trouble? believe he'sy going to see out his term as speaker? >> i do think that. there's plenty of time to get farm bill done. wewant to g a farm bill across the finish line, one that has work requirements for folks in the snap and food stamp program. now the focus is geting immigration policy right. because the american people were very clear about making sure we built the border security wall,t we did the rihing on immigration. that's what we conservatives are useused on getting done, beca that was a paramount issue in the last campaign. >> i'm alsohe asking you about leadership. since this was a basically an repudiat what the leadership was asking for, are we now looking at a situation where speaker ryan's job is in
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jeopardy? >> it wasn't a repudiation. it was saying we should have a focus on doing the right immigration policy, after all, some of our colleagues are bringing forth a discrge position which crowd bring to the floor and the end result would be a bill that is not consistent with the mandate of the 2016 i election. we're focused, we conservatives o oppose that farm bill are focused on getting the right immigration policy done, one that is consistent with what we told the american people we would do. >> woodruff: finally, more than is100 members of the tea party move. une urging do youor speaker of the house. are you going to do that? >> if and when there is a race, i plan to be part of that conversation. right now the focus has to be on what we do as republics to make sure we're in the majority. more importantly, who the speaker is next year is what republicans do this year. we better get focused on the things the american people elected us to do, accomplishing those things, and first and foremost in that is the right kind of immigration legislation that deals with the border security wall, deals with chain
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miation, deals witthe visa lottery. that's what we have to focus on. >> woodruff: should there be a new election for speaker ecfore the on? >> the speaker has been clear, he's going to stay until after the election. i think that's just fine. >> woodruff: congressman jim jordan of ohio, thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: i'm join now by our white house correspondent yamiche alcindor and by lisae desjardins at pitol. welcome to you both. so lisa, we heard from congressman jordan not onlyou the special counsel but the other thing he's asking for is that the justice department release a trove of classified documents, turn it over to congress. what is the conversation on capitol hi>> about that? think as you got out of ongressman jordan, there is a real concern frome conservatives that the f.b.i. abused its power. however, judy, from other republicans and frm conservatives, there are two other worries, one that those conservatives are going too far too fast. they say let the inspector
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general of the partment of justice, who is working on this issue, finish that investigcoion. the othecern is even broader, judy. i heard this on bothides of the capitol, they're worried this is changing the rules ofe, the gaow classified intelligence is handled. they're worried by allowing some members, who may complain in some cases ave access to this kind of information that it sets a very bad precedent. also there are concerns that only republicans are invited to talk about this informatio not democrats. urgely these things are bipartisan. >> woodruff: so yamiche, let's pick up on tt. the president has asked chief of staff general john kelly to work on setting up meetings, to talk about these documents, what should be released. what have you learned about that? >> well, presidt trump is one year into making the case that he's a victim of overreaching bt the departf justice, and these documents and the arguments about them really are being used to build that case. president trump said that he in a meeting todey when asked, said he wanted to get to the
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bottom of this, that congress wants to kn, but essentially it's that republican lawmakers want to know. i want to read off some of the people in the meeting, it's going to be f.b.i. director christopher wray. it's going to be the director of national intelligence. it's going to be representative trey gowdy and chairman nunez. what we see is not just any kind of republicans, what we seee there ople who have been making the case that this president is a victim of really a political campaign to get him out of office and for people whm don't like so i think it's really important to not just think about the fact that there are no democrats there, but the repblicans are people who are very vocal supporters of the president. >> woodruff: almost a foregone conclusion going in. >> yeah. >> woodruff: lisa, different subject, as we know, mor conversation today about where the trade talks stand with china. several strands to that. the conversations both at the white house and at the capitol. what are you hearing about that? what are lawmakers saying? >> this is one of the topics that cammoup the today. it started this morning with a
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tweet from senator mao rubio. a former opponent of the president this morning tweeting out that sadly china is outnegotiating the administration and winning the trade talk right now. that's about as sharp a critique as this president who sold himself as a negotiator as there can be. today what's happened in congress is i hear from republicans especially they're concerned that the president's policy on trade is scattered, and, in fact, we saw today some actual action not just words, judy. the house banking committeepa ed out of its committee a broad bill that would overhaul the way the u.s.ooks at foreign investment. it would in some ways make it ugher for chinese investors and chinese businesses that we think are security threats to get through. hat bill, judy, was a very specific amendment that would stop them president fr being able to roll back sanctions on hainese companies like gte. that's the company's been in the headlines.
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i think yamiche will talk out it. the president says he wants to help. the senate today, judy, went the other way and said to the president,, no you should n be able to roll back these sanctions. there is a political war within the president'trade war. >> woodruff: fascinating. and yamiche, meantime, there are me reports today that th administration has reached some kind of deal with china over the gte question, which has been ennging out there, what, forr the days now? >> yes, and the president when asked about it today said that there iso deal. he said that he also is pushing back on criticisms that china is running circles around him. the idea is that tpresident wants to make the case that he is being really, realy tough on china, and he says the u.s. hass beenng for years $500 billion a year in chinese trade. so the idea is that this president is feeling like he has to be on the offens today sarah sanders was asked about this today, and she said senahumer, she poited to senator schumer and said his criticism is very partisan, but she didn't talk about the fact
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that marco rubio ialso someone out there criticizing the president, and what we see there is the president really feeling as though es own party on this is questionerg his leip. they're trying to have a united front and look strong, but there arcracks with these trade negotiations. >> woodruff: still a long way to go before this is figured out. finally, lisa, something else going on at the capitol. the senate has apparently come to some kind hof agreement to deal with sexual harassment claims inside the congress. tell us about that. you have been following this story and breaking news on it. >> that's right. we at pbs newshour were among first -- we were firto learn today that there is a deal in the senate after these many nths of this question of the rules about sexual harassment and congress being in limbo, waiting for congressmen to act on the rules, now there is a deal between republicans d democrats in the senate, a remind their the rules here i the capitol are just basically universally seen as archaic and
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unfair to those victims ofsm sexual hart. curently, judy, anyone accusing someone of harassment has to wait 90 days and go thrugh forced counseling and mediation. here's what's in this deal in the senate. it would take away t 90-day delay, and it would make members alof congress pers liable. they would have to personally pay for any alsearassment findings against themselves for their behavior, however, the senate did make one change fm the house. those members of congress would not be personally liable forbe their stafavior. so we expect this to move forward pretty quickly. 's taken a long time. this is a big deal for people who work here in congress in a statement from our lawmakers. >> woodruff: soave they reached final agreement? >> i wouldn't say final. we have to wait for the vote, but this has great momentum. there are not any problems for it right now.a >> woodruff: lesjardins at the capitol, thank you for your reporting on that. yamiche alcindor for all your reporting at the white house. thank you both.
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>> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: a pushback against using cell phones during concerts. and "the restless wave- a new book from the "maverick," senator john mccain. now to our special look at "rethinking college" this s graduatison. our stories have been focused on programs that are helping lower- income students climb the ladder to economic stability. tonight, we head to chicago where there's a new plan to make re kids pursue a college degree or have another viableer careath after high school. hari sreenivasan has the story for our weekly segment, makingth grade."en >> sasan: students at north-grand high school in chicago know their teachers hava sogh expons. >> we have talkeuch about
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g.p.a., and how every assignment and every class counts. >> sreenivas: but on this day, freshman seminar teacher brett murphy upped the ante.t >> the class ts the highest overall g.p.a. will get to shave my head, right here in the middle of the classroom, will shave my head.an >> sreenivasa high school on academic probation jusfive years ago, north grand's new focus on raising grades has transformed them into a top performing school, even before teacher murphy decided to have fun with the idea. >> the first person will take an electric razor and zoom it across my head. the next student will lather my head up with a bunch of shaving cream. >> sreenivasan: north grand high principal, emily feltes. >> the idea of freshman seminar came because we wanted to he our kids lea how to do high school successfully getting them into this mindset of college is possible, i am capable. >> sreenivasan: the seminar is part of a new city-wide strategy to get students prepared for
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life after high school. it's called learn, plan, succeed. by 2020, in order to get a diploma from chicago public schools, a student will have to prove that they have a job, will be joining a trade school, will go on to college, or join the military. high school degree doesn't cut it anymore. >> sreenivasan: the idea came from chicago's memor, rahm uel. >> you have to show either all letter from e, a letter of acceptance, a letter of acceptance from community college, a letter of acceptance from a branch of the armed forces or a letter of acceptance from a trade school. ththat will give you and u confidence that you have a plan for the future. you' not just dropping off t cliff on high school graduation day. >> sreenivasan: is that the responsibility of age city of ch >> it's a responsibility to the kids of the city of chicago, yes. >> sreenivasan: north-grand senior joshua zayas waaccepted at eight schools. neither his parents nor his older brothers went to colle. >> their high school didn't really push them to excel to the next level. here, like it's a requirement. >> sreenivasan: but zas has reasons beyond the districts expectations.9-
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last year, hisar-old brother, who he says took the wrong path, was ot and killed. >> seeing where he dropped out, how his life went, that was something that actually motivated me. i honestly don't want to struggle like that, that's my deal, i just don't want to struggle. i want to have my career and i'm set, happy, home and everything from there.sh >> sreenivasanld the city be worried about what happens after graduation? >> i think it's a moral imperative to be worried about what happens for our children i think that the old days of, you know, we've got yo graduated, out of high school, are done. >> sreenivasan: according to janice jackson, the c.e.o. of chicago public schools, 60% of high school students already meet the graduation requirement. >> the other 40%, that's the group that we're most concerned about. what we're trying to do e ensure that udents who need it the most are the ones that are receiving the support. >> sreenivasan: there's going to be people that say, listen, you just moved the goal line for what constitutes a diploma. a child has worked their 12ou years, they get this piece of paper without having to tell you what two more years looks like.
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>> i didn't ve the goalposts, the economy did. companies today are looking for somebody with a minimum of something post-high school. >> sreenasan: critics of chicago's plan question if cash- strapped schools will be able to provide the support and guidance a student needs to meet the new requirement. kristy brooks is a school counselor and represents counsellors for the chicago teachers union. >> my main concerns are that we're not resourcing that plan. need more counselors in our schools, and we need funds for that. >> sreenivasan: ooks wants the city to limit the student-to- counselor ratio and stop asking school counselors to perform duties that are outside their role as advisors. >> chicago public schools ranks 28th out of 30, on the very lo end of counselor-to-student ratio. and principals have to allowun lors to actually do counseling work with kids. we can't be pulled to be counting tests all the time. we can't be pulled to do recess suty and lunch duty three ho a day.
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>> sreenivasanoudo you have counselors? >> i don't think it's a situation where you need more counselors. i think we have to look at some of the duties that counselors have, and maybe relieve them of some of those. >> sreenivasan: this spring, the mayor tapped employees from its vast community college system to assist counselors and students with the new requirement. >> by integrating the communitym college sywe're ensuring a system that kids do not fall between the gap between high school and whatever else they do in life. >> sreenivas: but some ask if the new advisors have the qualifications needed. >> what are their credentials? are they certified? school counselors hold master's' degrees and licenses? do they know our kids? we get to know our kids. >> sreenivasan: at north grand high school, principal emily to hireade the decisi more qualified school counselors. buto do so, she had to for some classroom technology, like computers and smt boards. >> the ratio is lower, and we have a full-time college coach, not all schools are as fortunate, or are in that shape.
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>> sreenivasan: and at north- grand some freshman already had plans for their future. >> once i get my degree to be a professional basketball player. >> a culinary chef. >> i want to be a veterinarian. >> sreenivasan: but others remained skeptical thanew requirement was a good fit for all students. >> at our age we're still young, and still figuring out what we want to do with our life, so i think we should have more time to figure out where we want to go with our futures. >> sreenivasan: what's the scenario where a student can't et these requirements and doesn't get a diploma? >> i'm telling you that scenari woppen. i'm not saying this just out of hope or aspiration. we intervene before it late. >> sreenivasan: in chicago, for the pbs newshour, i'm hari sreenivasan. >> woouff: these days, it's hard to go to a concert or show where peop don't quickly pull out their phones to capture the moment or let their friends know they're there.
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but some artists and performers have had enough of that. jeffrey brown tells us about a start-up catering to that sentiment, and its ambitions for dialing back our phone use in a much bigger way. >> brown: a recent concert at the famed fillmore auditorium in san francisco, filled with music, and laughs. but note something missing: noho smars held high capturing the proceedings. that's just the way comedian dave chappelle wants it. >> i see how it distracts people. i used to make requests of the audience, could you not use your phone during the show, and they can't honor the request. >> brown: they can't. >> oftentimes they cannot. grown, responsible, disciplined adults have a hard time watching a comedy show without the distraction of their phone. we need a break from technology.
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>> brown: chappee is part of a growing movement of comedians and musicians pushing back against the ubiquity of the smartphone, in the concert hall and in our lives.ne >> the ps an addictive device. i don't know if you've ever lost your phone, just the anxiety you feel, it's almost like worse than losing a pack orettes or something else that's addictive. >> brown: here in "high-tech central," with siliconcoalley nearbyanies large and small vie to produce and monetize the latest gadgs. but one local start-up, called yondr, is after someing different-- prying them away, at least for a few hours. 31year-old graham dugoni is its founder. >> it's just going hey, here's a phone free show, here's a classroom, here's an event, or a wedding, you step into this space, while you're there, what happens the, stays there, it's socially acceptable to unplug. your nervous system n relax from kind of the call and response pattern of modern life. >> brown: it's deceptively
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simple: at large events a yond team passes through the line, takes your phone and puts it in a locked pouch, which you get to hold onto. at the end of thponight, your h is unlocked. if you really need to use your phone, there are spaces available, a bit like smoking areas at the airport.ha dave celle likes the idea so much he's become an investor in yondr, which charges a fee to the performers othvenues, not phone users. some 400 artists and musicians have used yondr so far.r but goni, yondr is as much a cause as it is a business. >> you know i think people looking for new ways to kind of live, ings that can center their lives. so, i see us as just part of that. creating, at a real functional, practical sense, just crpeting, helpinle create device free spaces. >> brown: in the age of social media, people are expeencing art in new ways: exhibitions like the recent blockbuster by japanese artist yayoi kusama
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come instagram ready. "wired" magazineditor arielle rdes has written about art and technology. >> it's not just the show that the artists put on for you, butl it's actyou taking that, capturing it, remixing it, posting it on your instagram account, and turning that into your own version of art. >> brown: yeah, so the art that's on the wall, or the music on stage, no longer lives by itself? >> exactly, and i think artists are a little bit squeamish about that, understandably so. a lot goes into creating art.in >> brownoday's music world, social media cuts both ways. in part, it's a rketing device. at most of his concerts, guitarist and singer john mayer allows smartphones, which help get the word out about his music. >> if that's how you want to enjoy the show, i get it. i also have a phone in thend dressing room,'ll go do something at night and take a picture with it. >> brown: in your career, thkegh, you've watched that off, that technology.
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e.>> yeah, but it's helped i can also promote things from bed,n my phone. >> brown: but when performing with dave appelle, as on this night, he abides by other rules, t d likes that too. >> it's become s unconscious thinking now, that when you sing something on stage, in front of people, and you have a bad note, you go well, that's going to make the tape. i'm working something out, dave is working something out, sometimes that cumulative. i learned last night, okay, i messed up the chorus in my own song that i just wrote, i don' have to suffer the indignity of knowing that that lives in repetition in 50,000 views, >> brown: people in t the fillmore seemed happy enough to play along. >> you paid a significant amount of money to se performer. you should see the performer. >> i'm not that guy taking pictures of the act. i'm going to experience that and let bit pght here. eople don't have that
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self-control, so i am a for it. lock it away. lock it up. >> brown: and yondr is now being used in other places. f at weddings,or example, including serena williams',om and in courtand more than 1000 schools, like west potomac academy in northern virginia, where teacher nancy mantelli is happy to have her students full attention. >> cell phone use is a mental health issue. because i feel that the students are addicted to it. they simply cat put the phone wn. so here i am as an educator and i'm tryi to give them this neutral environment a safe environment toeach them. and that cell phone puts them right ba into that that place where they're potentially being bullied where they're getting harassed. >> brown: all this raises new questions, of course: does locking up a phone limit free speech? who getso decide what's a phone free zone, especially in a
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world where cameras can help monitor and expose bad behavior? yondr founder dugoni: >> what is the interplay between privacy and transparency i modern society, and the answer is, in a way, it's complicated. i think what's parof a healthy, ongoing dialogue in a well-functioning society, is to understand that there are choices, but if you think, if anyone thinks endless transparency is going to lead to more freedom, i think that's naive, because it leads, it's a prison of its own. >> brown: and technology itself changes, like these recently s releasunglasses that capture video, potentially outstrippinge efforts ondr. >> i see it as a bit of a cat and mouse game. f yondr is sort ing the problem of the iphone, but what about what comes nex >> brown: for now, though, dave chappelle thinks it's keepine the focus wh belongs.
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>> right. it's also about the quality of the performance. we always have this feeling of being lucky like we're an ¡us'. us in this room, we're the only ones who get to see this or feel this. you're not thinking about outside the room, and it is kind g wonderful. >> brown: someth think about, for those on and off the stage. for the pbs newshour, i'm isffrey brown in san francco. >> woodruff: republican senator john mccain is known as a maverick-- familr with tough fights, from prison camps in vietnam to the floor of the u.s. senate. recently, he has been staying close to the arizona ranch hme calls as he undergoes treatment for brain cancer. but he still speaks his mind and there are new glimpses this month into mccain's life and thinking.
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he and his family are part of ab nedocumentary: "john mccain: for whom the bell tolls," which debuts next monday.oo here's a l >> come on verma. >> come on verma.. >> come on hon >> i got a phone cal my mom that said, "jack you're going to see some stuff in the news. ur father has, has brain cancer. i'm with him right now. he knows his diagnosis and he's the same as he's always been, he said, 'alright let's push forward.'" k >> yw these doctors keep talking to me about people who,l if youthem the truth then ntey just give up and die. that you really o and i, i keep saying them, "just tell llme, just tell me, that's want to know, you know." some say, "well it's, it's not good" and i say, "well, you know it's just--" and it really drives me crazy but then i talk to other doctor friends of mine and say that most people, that's not what
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they want to hear. why wouldn't they want to hear? you know? why wouldn't they want to spend a few more days here, you know? >> woodruff: mccain's confrontation with cancer isr- also eesent, whether explicitly or implicitly, in a new memoir out today. there are reflections about living and past decisions, but it also makes ear that mccain still has plenty to say, abouter a, society, and politics in the age of president trump.th it is calledrestless wave" and mccain co-wrote it with one of his close, long-time aides,ho mark salter,oins me from new york. mark salter, thank you for being with us. give us an update on how senato. mccain is doi >> he's hanging in there. he's fighting, working hard at gett hg stronger. an operation a couple weeks ago that knocked the wind out of him a litt. bit but he's back home, and he's working on getting stronger and still staying engaged his office and doing all the things
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.e wants to be doing right now >> woodruff: you have been writing books with him for, what, almost 20 years. this is your seventh book together. >> that's right. >> woodruff: this book sounds like it reads likel he's stil got a lot rolling around in his mind that he wants to get out there. "restless wave," what did he mine by that? >> it's a line from the ny hymn "eternal father" it refers to eternal father, strongestos save, arm is bond the restless wave. people know that john mccai a restless individual and only god can restrain him. we thought that was an propriate title. >> woodruff: but a lot to get off his chest. >> he did. the we started working on the book before his diagnosis. it was a different book. it was gog the concentrate mostly on foreign affairs and national security, but he wanted to write something more personal and tell stories about the catees that mamost to him and the write about what america
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means to him and whatr ameica means to the world. >> woodruff: one of the many things he writes about, he rall covers his entire public career, he writes about choosing sarah palin as his running mate in 2008. he takes responsibility for the problems in that campaign and her role in it,ut he als says he wishes he had chosen democratic senator joe leakman asisrunning mate. how much does that bother him? >> well, i think that was his first choice. he wanted to do it. he was persuaded by aids and senior members of the party that it would cause a divided convention and a challenge on the floor of the nomination of his vice presidential pick andwa convinced not to do it. he would have... looking back,is heed he had stuck with it. that's not to say he regrets choosing governor palin. there is a distinction. i thinpeople have mixed that up. but it's not. ence he decided or was convinced he couldn't picktor lieberman, he chose governor palin and heeve regretted it
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publicly or privately. he's never said a word of regret out it. >> woodruff: he writes at some length about how much he has loveatserving in the sen he makes that very clear. his friendships across the partisan aisle b why has than so important to him? >> well, he served there for over 30 years. now a long time, and even before that he was the navy's senate liaison officer. he got to know somen of the lios of the senate back in the '70s, scoot jackson, barry goldwater, john tower, traveled with them overseas quite a bit, had bipartisan friendship, became good friends with then younr memers, gary hart, bill cohen, joe biden. he's just -- it's a place that he's seen do enormous amount of good and work together collaborativelyeo mak progress on the problems of our time, something that he's worried is getting a little lost now. >> woodruff: moving around,uc there's soin this
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book mark salter. he writes about getting a copy of the steel dossier, the report written by christopher steel, turning it over the then-f.b.i. director comey. it is clear that he takes the russia interference in the lastc on seriously. what does he think about how other republicans see that? >> well, he thinks most of his colleagues in the senate take it pretty seriously. i'm sure he's been a it a littl, like many people who worry about putin and putn's challenge to the u.s. and his challenge toer an allies, you know, he probably worries a little bit about some people in the hse intelligence committee not taking it that seriously, but he takes it seriously. he's had a pretty good sense of putin ing back all the wayto the late '90s. he has been warning about him so he thinks probably china is our long-term challeowe, you over the next generation or the work but our immediate problem is vladimir putin. he woulerlike the see membof
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congress and his party and the democratic party confront tat challenge honstly and forceful s. >> woodrufmuch of this book or at least a good chunk reads like what he stands for is in opposition to what president trump stands for. he talk about being a champion c promise, being someone who believes in working with the owother side, and toningn the harsh rhetoric and let's err -- air just a little bit of what he himself read in the audio version. w>> before i leave ild like to see our politics begin to retu to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history from the history of other nations. i'd like to see us recover our sense that we are more alikeif thanrent. we're citizens of a republic made of shared ideals, forged in a new world t replace the tribal enmities that tormented the old one. even in times of poca turmoil such as these, we share that awesome heritage and are onsibility to embrace it,
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whether we think eachthe right or wrong in our views on the issues of the day, we owe each other our respect. and so long as our character ngmerits respect, and as s we share for all of our differences, for all the rancoroudebates that sometimes demean our politics, a mutual devotion to the ideals our nation was conceived d, that all are created equal and liberty and equal justice ar the natural rights of all. >> woodruff: mark salter, that's a very different message from what's in the political r atmospheht now. why did he want to get that out? >> well, you know, he has serv in uniform and in public office. he's served this country for 60 years. quite a listening stretch of -- a long stretch of time. serving this country to him as meant serving her ideals to, see them advance in the world and to see them safe here at home's theen the most just cause of his life, a cause that he believes has given his life
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honor and purpose. he is concerned when hn thiks we're losing sight of, that whether it's nativeism or america-first nationalism that is only concerned about getting what advantages there are in the world for us a and to hell with the rest of humanity.t i don't wayone to think, and he wouldn't want anyone to think that this book is just an anti-donald trump diatribe. it's not. they have differences on many issu that are verymportant to the senator, and he discusses those issues quite fortt hright, e book is about a great deal more than that. it's about his love of this country and what it means to him and what it means to the world and what he hopes it will continue to mean to the world in the future he may not be here to see. >> woodruff: how many of his republican colleagues in the senate does he think share those views? >> the vast majority of them. >> woodruff: but why aren't we hearing from them does he think? nk>> i thi you do. and a lot of the work, you knowa itays the controversies that get all the attention for obvious reasons, but take a look
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at the committee he chairs, the armed services committee. every year, year after year, that committee reports out its bill, the defense authorization bill, alost always unanimously, always in a bipartisan fashion, and everybody work collaboratively with a sense that america's leadership of the rld is important to us and important to the world. that doesn't get as much attention ar,s noisore confrontational or controversial statements and actions on the part of some members of congress, but it's more the nor than not. >> woodruff: is he hopeful for e?the country's fut >> he believes... yes, he believes this couny is a match for its challenges in theen prest and in the future. th woodruff: mark salter, who wrote the book ohn mccain, "the restless wave: good times, jufl causes, great hts, and other appreciations". mark salter, we thank you. >> thank you, jud we appreciate it.
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>> woodruff: and that book is out toda the newshour online rig now, we have live video of the dramatic eruption at the kilauea summit in hawaii. you can watch that and more on our website, pan.org/newshour. that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of uhoat the pbs ne, thank you and see you soon. >> mor funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> the ford foundation. working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. >> carnegie corporation of new york. supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of international peace and security. at carnegie.org. h
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