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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: on the "newshour" tonight, a supreme decision. president trump is set to announce his nominee to replace justice kennedy and reshape the high court. then, a troubled alliance.th italk he u.s. ambassador to nato before a summit in brussels about how the president's attacks change talks with europe. and inside the f.b.i.'s investigation into the growing abuse of children online-- the bale against child pornography and the dark web. >> it's your pastor, it's your teacher, it's your soccer coach, we've had all of those types of people, people with kids, people
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the pick could change the make- up of the supreme cor decades to come. alrey, political forces are bracing for a contentious confirmation battle. we get preview now from both ends of pennsylvania avenue: our jo house.is at the white and lisa desjardins is on capitol hill. hello to both of you. so, john, you're at the white house. what's the latest? >> well, judy, we're reliably told that the final decision earlier today, but anyone who knows what that decision is isn't talking, at least not to us. sunday, the president said he had narrowed it down to fou all conservative appls court judges. they are raymond kethledge. amy barree, brett cavanaugh and thomas hardeman, the oldes e youngest 46, oldest 53 a th have backers and trackers. social conservatives, barrette,
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legal coervatives cavanaugh.k some th cav knew and keflego uld have the easiest track. semary ann trump barrettrved with hardeman on the appeals court. ru giuliani, on of the president's personal aorneys, told our colleague yamiche alcindor he thought it would be hardeman bid quickly he didn't know for sure. we will know the presionnt's choice and then it will be up to the senate to advice and consent. >> woodruff: lisa, that brings it to you, codong to senate confirmation. what are you hearing from senate republicans? >> for senate republicans, this is actually a joyous day, its as if they just have to figure out which of the players from their team gets promoted to the n.f.l. they all have their favorite choices but from this viewpoihe inenate, they believe the
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easiest choices to go through here would be judges hardeman and kethledge. judge ka v.r. anaugh has a long record that there's cocern there may bish shoes that would cause problems especially in a senate very gnar lowe roy divide butorenccain is still battling cancer in arizona so still 50 republicans to 49 democrats. can't lose angle member. >> woodruff: so a close vote, clearly democrats havtoe somethg ay, what are they saying now? >> well, for drnlings they're placing for tbig tle. truth is, judy, they need help, probably a nominee that collins and murkowski would not like, but they're ready. they've got files on all of these nominees and they're particularly watching thre thref
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their own members, joe manchian and heidi heitkamp and joe donnelly, all repatresenting that voted for donald trump, and we know they were invited to the white house fo this ceremony, this announcement but are told by manchin ad heidieitkamp's office they will not be attending. we haven't heard from joe nnelly's office. pressure from democrats to vote against the nominee because it's so critical. pressure in the republicans in the red-pinkish states to vote for him. >> woodruff: john remind us what the president himself isng sa >> the president said his nomination of neal gorsuch was an unqualified success both because of the stature of now justice gorsuch and the ease of his confirmation. he cled it a home run, says he wants to hit another home runni t. in his only tweet about this, specifically about this in the la 24 hours, he promised his
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choice would be exceptional. dy. >> woodruff: all right, john yang at the white house, lisa desjardins at the capitol. we're all watching and waiting. thank you. and we'll have more on the supreme court pick aft the news summary. plus the "newshour" will bringyo live coverage of president trump's gus, the newshour will br you special live coverage of present trump's announcement at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. in theay's other news, the trump administration confirmed that it willot meet tomorrow's deadline to return 102 migrant children under the age of five to their parents. instead, the justice department told a federal judge in san diego that about half that number may be reunit. older children must be reunited with their families by july 26. in thailand, four more boys were brought out of a cave today, making eight rescued over two days. they'd been trapped by flooding, since june 23.oy four otherand their soccer coach remain underground, as
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john irvine of independent television news, reports. >> reporter: ambulances have become guiding lights here, with the sight of one trundling down the track from the cavemi confng they are a boy closer to completing a great escape. it's no wonder the thais are smiling, o as big a worry as anything here. day's goal was to emulate the success of yesterday, when fourf weed before a halt was called because resources were during thour break before 1ent. the resumption of the rescue mission here today, fresh oxygea tanks wered in the cave system, guide ropes tightened, and crucially, the all star team of rescue divers had a chance to get some rest, before round two. and so they got down to itgain this morning. dozens of divers entered the
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cave system to line the route out, and then meet t needs of each individual boy and his guide as they passed throu. now in hospital, all the rescuei boys remain ofly anonymous, out of sensitivity toward the families of those still trapped. so instead of names they have numbers. today saw 5, 6, 7, and 8 driven to a landing zone and then airlifted to that hospital in the nearest town, chiang rai. after the trials and tragedy of last week, the last two days have been a stunning success. tonight against the odds those hittled downe been to five. >> woodruff: that report from john irvine independent television news. president trump says he believes north korea will give up nuclear weapons, as promised. this, after the north accused the u.s. of making "gangster-
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like" demands. on twitter today, mr. trump h referenc summit with north harea's leader, and said: "i have confidencekim jong un will honor the contract we signed and even more importantly, our handshake." but he suggested china may be trying to derail the effort, to retalie for u.s. tariffs. inrkey's president recep tayyip erdogan was sworoday to a new term, with broad new powers. he entered the parliament flanked byeremonial guards before taking the oath of office. it came as turkey's central bank moved to give erdogan grear control over monetary policy. he also named his son-in-l, treasury and finance minister. government forces in syria closed in today on the last rebel strongholds in the southwestern part of the country. the rebels were under heavy fire from syrian guns and russian air strikes. russian officials said more than 90 towns ithe region have joined a truce. as a result, thousands of
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refugees have begun ing home. the death toll from flooding in western japan has reached 114. rescuers were still digging through debris and mud today, after days of heavy rain, especially around hiroshima. prime minister shinzo abeca eled an overseas trip, toe overe effort. >> ( translated ): the number of the dead and missing from these historically torrential rains has reached over 100, an serious damage has been caused. there are still many people missing, we are increasi the number of self defense forces to 73,000 members who are doing their utmost to rescue and assist locals. >> woodruff: several million people have been forced to hiescape the rising water, some 11,000 households have no power. across the american west, fire crews report progress on containing a wave of wilorires. in cala, they've been gaining ground against a fire that killed one person a scorched 55 square miles along the oregon border.
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a fire three times that size, in colorado, is now mostly contained. there's word the trump administration tried in vain to block an international endorsement of breast-feeding. "the new yortimes" reports the u.s. threatened members of the world health assembly with trade sanctions and cuts in military aid. president trump lled the story "fake news." he said the u.s. opposed curbs on infant formula, not breastfeeding. starbucks is giving up plastic straws over the next two years, in a bid to cut waste and pollution. the coffee chain says it will transition to biodegradable pecially designed lids. it's the largest food and bevege company yet, to make that move. on wall street, stocks rallied on hopes for strong second-ea quarteings. the dow jones industrial averagt gained 320 pto close at oi,776. the nasdaq rose 67s, and
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the s&p 500 added 24. and, catholic bishops across the philpines called today for a national day of prayer, after president drigo duterte said god is "stupid." the fiery leader also said in recent days that he'd resign if anyone can prove there is a god. the orshops say they'll pray f mercy for those who commit blasphemy. still to come on the newshour: how the next supreme court justice could shape the nation's ws. the u-s representative to nato ead of what promises to be a tense summit with european allies. turmoil in the u.k.-- top politicians quit as disagreements over brexit mount, and much more. >> woodruff: tonight, president trump has his second opportunity to leave a lasting mark on the
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supreme court. with us now, ahead of the announcement, are three seasoned court watchers: "newshour" regular marcia coyle, who covers the court for the "national law journal.ne katyal is a former acting solicitor general, wju clerked foice stephen breyer. and christopher landau, who hase also arguere the court and clerked for justices clarence thomas, as well asn he late antoalia. the pr'mram. harrisiaoing to start with you. before we talk about the people who we think are the finalists who theth's going to name, let's talk about what the departure of justice kennedy means. how much has this court changed as a result of justice kennedy? >> well, i think you do ha to start with justice kennedy in order to understand how the next justice can be so important. justice nnedy was that crucial fifth vote in a number of very high profile areas like same-sex marriage, voting rights,rs
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abortion, amendment, reling, i could keep going. it was his tendency at times to move to the left, even though he was a conservative, is a conservative, but it was his movement to the left that ocured certain victories the court's left wing and for those who were social liberalsmo anerates. so with the addition of wthe ne justice who, looking at the fielntthat presirump has been looking at, all appear to be very strong conthservatives. may well give the supreme court a very stong working conservative majority for years to come, andhohe like of any of those nominees or potential nominees moving to the left may not be eat as we've seen with justi kennedy. >> woodruff: neal katyal, i think we have to quickly look as marc is saying at e legacy of justice kennedy in order to
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realize the difference this new justice could make. >> absolutely. you started the program saying supreme court nominations are one of the most important thi a president does, but this seat is the most important seat on the supreme court and, as marcia is saying, you know, if theth nominees o four short list are picked, there is a risk this becomes the st conservative list not just in our lifetime but going back to the '30s. justice kennedy, i argued before him 30 times and he wasin listevery single time. that's what made him remarkable. >> woodruff: how do you see justice kennedy an important the next pick is. >> justice kennedy playedrtn imt role in a number of areas. t's important to keep in mind the supreme cou a small institution, nine people, and when you change any one of those people, the others rearrange
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themselves like pieces on the a chess board, so i wouldn't necesarily assume that you j plug in a replacement for justice kennedy and everybody else necessaly stays whre they are. it may cause other people to shift around. so it's always a very dangerous bet to assume you know exaly what's going to happen when you introduce a new factor into such a small group of peo wple. druff: so with that, marcia, let's talk a little bit more about these fouu r. aid a minute ago they're all conservative but different kinds of conservative. what do you me by that? >> well, first of all, i think they're strong conservatives,k and i th can take that as a given because they have been vetted and approved the conservative federalist society which has helped construct the list for president trump of who should be, in their opinion, on the supreme court. even those who have been unhappen put with justice kennedy, conservatives unhappy ustice kennedy over the years, have not really eriticized the four short
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listers that the pdent is looking at. now, you're right, they're not all the same. they all espseriginalism and textualism, but to different degrees. some seem strongethan others. take them individually, you can see some of their differences in where they come from, where they were educated, take judge kavanaugh, for example, he's probably considered the most insider of the four short lister p martirtially geography. he's been here in washington, d.c. on the federal appellate court for 12 years. he has the pedigree president trump really admired in neil gorsuch, yale on yale. they went to the same pep school. then you have to the extreme the outsider who would be judge hardeman, who doesn't have the ivy league pedigree, though he
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went to a fine law scool, georgetown university. >> wooydruff: how d see the differences? >> i love georgetown universitye fine university. it's hard to assess these four nominees. i think the real concern is the president go pick among the four, based on who is most qualified for the natn or who's the most qualified for him. this is the first presidentn a ng time to make supreme court nominations while his administration is under such criminal investigation.ss so this proyes, it's selected down to four, spposedly, is what we' learned, but, you know, how he's picking among those four, you know, what's the confidenc that, you know, things have come up as to his cases and theik with these nominations. >> woodruff: how do you see the differences, christopher landau, amg the four? yes, they're all conservative, originalists in their reading of the constitution, but what does
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that mean? what do you see as te distinction here? >> first of all, i would just like to say i think this another area where president trump has somewhat broken the mold with a remarkably transparent process, campaigning on a specific list of judges, and i think, you know, that's for a reason that they are all extremely well-qualified, well-vetted people. i think we're not likely to get a david suiter nomination that comes completely out of the blue or a arriet miers nomination. i think these are all people with stellar background -- >> woodruff: you're saying theylie less quaed? >> i think they came out of the blue. these are all people people know in advance and they're known quantities, and i think that that, in a sense, i think, has made the process, this time, i think, very different than in the past where we had no ea what was coming. >> woodruff: marhacia, there been some, you know, dramatic pronouncements made, predictis made, thaif the
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president goes this way, the court will chnge, if he goes another way -- are we looking at gloom andoom? >> depends on your perspective. >> woodruff: that's true. but how wide are the array of possibilities for what this picl mean? >> well, i think, again you come back to justice kennedy's at and what will happen with the nominee whoills tht seat and faces the kinds of issues whered justice kemade a difference. in terms of how conservative these four are, there have been recent studiesy political scientists that put them on a scale and say, you know, judge i hardemsomewhere between kennedy and roberts and that judge kavanaugh is the most conservative, bu the differences are so small when .hey're measured that way you just don't know until a justice gets ere relly how
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they are going to be. these are relatively young. they have been on the bench, kavanaugh 12 years, 10 years, 11 years. the one who is trunlyknowable is judge barrett who's been a fe eral judge foright months. so you don't really know untilt they face -- 's going to be a huge change, in a sense, that you will have a solid working conservative majority. >> woodruff: neal katyal, how much difference can this make on the court in yearso come. >> it's any of the four toic jukennedy. when you think about his pivotal votes on affirmative action, abortion, capital punishment, on ues, thesest of is four are very much to the right of him, so the court are going to change, and trump is proudf that. i mean, this is not something he's shied from. >> woodruff: christopher landau, the court's going to change in the conservative direction dramatically? >> younnow, judy, we have be
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using the word "conservative" a lot. it's important for the viewersn toerstand, when we're talking about conservatives on the cou'rt, its different than talking about political ves and liberals. you can have a judicial conservative, regardless ofr he political views, just thinks the role of a judge in our democratic society is very limited. so when we're talking about is this person more or less conservative, i think it's important to consider we mean something different in conservative in the judicial realm than we necessarily mean of conservative in the political realm.l, >> woodruff: where's going to be a lot of assessing and weighing of the choice as soon as we nd out what it is in a little under three hou. we thank you all three. >> thank you.
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>> woodruff: president trump will meet with leaders of nato r this week in brussels, belgium. mr. trump has blasted the alliance repeatedly, as he did again today, focusing on what he sees as lack of financial commitment from other nations. to talk about that, and others mattder discussion at the summit, i was joined earlier from brussels by the u.s. ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison. madam ambassador, let mee sk you about eting the nato meeting this week president trump will be there in brief.go what's the u.s for this meeting? >> the u.s. al is the strength and unity of this liance and so much of what we have done this year is to affirm ts alliance and strengthen it. we are looking at a very strong capability of what we call the four 30s and that is 30 battalions 30 air squadrons 30 ships in 30 days meaning that we
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could respond to any crisis in any of our 29 countries. with that kind of a force it is a deterrent to any adversary and that is something that we willod e a new command structure that gets there. it's a goal that is worthy and i think that we're going to show an alliance strength and most certainly unity. >> woodruff: president trump has repeatedly criticized the nato allies for not paying their fair share of the defense ope. just today he's tweeting more about it. p and at ont he tweeted that the u.s. is paying 90% of theng cost of supporato is that a fact? >> well the u.s. part of the .ato common funding is 22% and it is capped at th of course we do have other forces that are not just for european surity but for our
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forward presence. i don't know where he is looking for the 70 to 90% but i ow that there are many different areas where we are a dual purpose. we are enhancing the security of europe because of the russian takeover of crimea. but we also have hospitals in germany that service our american injured forces. the alli are 29 talking and i think the president believes that as well. >> woodruff: well in connection with that the president went on to tweet today, he said it's not fair, it's not acceptable that these countries are not paying what he called their fair share. he added at other point over the end he talked about the. he said the europeans are killing us on trade. you put all that together.'s learly pressuring them to
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do more in terms of the defense of the alliance what it what does that mean the u.s. will dof he germans in particular don't increase their share. >> certainly the president has been very plainspoken about wking our allies to do more. every president wim i served in the senate did the same thing. president clinton president bush president obama all have said europe needs to do more. and chancellor merkel has also said to her own saag their parliament that they need to do more. i believe that they are stepping up. it's not as much as 2% yet. but i think they will recommit more to do more because they realize that europe does need to do more and they are the strongest of the economies in europe. so i think that they are saying the right things they're saying they're going to dmore. and i think we need to continue
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to encourage them to do at because they have capabilities and we need every capability we can have to deter russia tode r counterterrorism which is in all of our interests.dr >> wf: there is concern ambassador hutchison among those who watch nato closely that the president has this one on one meeting with vladimir putin russia's leader next monday. they're concerned that he is going to go along with what mr.u n wants in terms of letting russia keep its claim to crimea to stay in ukraine undercutting nato should th be concerned tout that >> judy, it's haknow all of the subjects that will come up, but what the president has put t is that he is going to talk to russia to vladimir putin iabout his malign influenso many areas. we've had hybrid aivities in many of our countries inuding
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the united states. and we most certainly are concerned about russia's violation of the i.m.f. treaty that is a ballistic missile system that they've agreed not to do and they're violating it. what ty're doing in syria what they're doing in afghanistan. there are many subjects that we need to bring russia to the table to talk about. and i think what the president is trying to do is sit down with him and say you need to come in a different direction. you are not behaving like a leader in the world and we need you to do differently to do better. that's what i think he is saying. and i think that all of us believe that the ukraine is a sovereign nation that should have the ability to rule itself and have its own government. all of us in nato are united ina backing e for its reforms and to be able to get the russian encroachment on ukraine
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yoversed. >> woodruff: but aknow the president just a few days ago called vladimirutin a fine man which you've said in interviews of tu last since then that yo would not have used those words. but in tharegard chancellor merkel is saying because of the russian threat what nato needs to do now is foc on defending the alliance more thinking about a greater presence in central europe and eastern europe. is president trump going to go along with that? >> president trump himself increased our enhanced presence in europe beca the russian activities. ssia because they are probing they're trying to split ouran after thxation illegally of crimea by russia is important. i think the president has committed to that. chancellor merkel has as well as
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well as the other european allies. and what we're doing is exactly vladimir putinannot strain or divide our nato alliance. it is too strong and its history is a good history of an alliance that works. >> woodruff: u.s. ambassador to nato getting prepared for this week's meetings. kay bailey hutchison, thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: it's been two years since the united kingdom voted for "brexit"-- to leave the european union. but th the deadline to leave just nine months away, the british government is in crisis now over how to separate from the e.u. and as jeffrey brown reports, two abrupt resignations er the last day have only escalated tensions. >> brown: british prime minister theresa may faced rising doubts, and derisive laughter, in
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parliament after losing two key ministers. >> i want to pay tribute to my righhonourable friends. (laughter) >> brown: david davis resigned as chief brexit gotiator late sunday.an d today, foreign secretary boris johnson followed suit. in his resignation letter, johnson said "the brexit dream is dying."br he waritain is instead headed "for a semi-brexit" and the "status of a colony." davis said may is giving "too much away, too easily," to the e.u. on trade and regulations. >> we do not agree about the best way of delivering our c sharmitment to honor the result of the referendum. >> brown: addressing the house of commons, the prime minister defended plans, hammered out last friday, to maintain the same regulations for goods and agriculture as the rest of the e.u. me some have suggested that under this arran the u.k. would not be able to do trade deals. ey are wrong. when we have left the e.u., the
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u.k. will have our own independent trade policy. >> brown: in june, 2016, britons rcted for the historic referendum to difrom the e.u. a year later, british and e.u. negotiators beganegotiating on a ra of issues, including th rights of u.k. citizens living in the rest of europe, the border between ireland andnd northern irewhich is part of the united kingdom. today, jeremy corbyn, the leader of the opposition labour party said the effort clearly in chaos. >> we have a crisis in government. two secretaries of state hav resigned, and still we are no clearer on what the fu relationship with our nearest neighbors and biggest partners will look like. it is clear mr. speaker this government is not capable of securing a deal to protect the it is clear this government cannot secure a good deal for britain.: >> brow, with less than nine months left before the deadline for brexit, may has asked her cabinet to speed up preparations for a "range of potential outcomes," including one with no deal.
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but, she faces growing questions about whether her government s wivive to finish the job. late today, prime minister may named the present health secretary jeremy hunt to replace boris johnson as foreign secretary., for mom joined by the united kingdom's former ambassador to washington, sir peter westmacott. he also served as envoy to france and turkey, and was an oppone of britain leaving the european union. lcome to you. first, how much of a surprise or political bombshell was this? >> i don't think it was a big surpse that david davis, the u.k. --u bt boris johnson followed afterwards, because it was only on fri theresa may gotl her ministers together and d signed on al to take to brussels with a chance of gettina settlemen >> brown: so an argument over
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a hard or soft brexit, reminds people what that means and what issues are involved. >> sounds a simple question but it's quite a tough on b. wn: of course. really, it's about how far does the unitekingdom sever all its links with the europeanc union it's been a member since 1973. many of us who think brexit is risky if not destructive thing to go for the united kingdom would like the amount of change tone miimal. but there are people who have a strong sense about sovereignty, about takck control, about britain only enacting its ownn laws, about being told what to do by people in brussels, all that sort ofing, who want total change. so no customs union, no single, markr own regulations, our own laws, and that would be very iven that we have become so integrated with brussels, with the european union. half our foreign trade goes to the other european countries and so on. so the debate is about do you
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remain as close as possible in terms of trade and other lairptions with the european union or cut it offer an start again as an independent country and negotiate your own agreemen with the other countries in the rest of the world and that's been the debate. wn: boris johnson was one of the original faces of brexit, or a strong proponent of it. what seems to be the calculation, now, in his stepping away from thern gont that is supposed to implement it? >> boris johnson originally was a pro eueaand then decided to back the leave campaign and was surprised whn the referendum was won and was given the job as foreign secretary to be part of the team thashld make it worse. to be honest, i think most in this country think boris johnson's calculation is what do i need to do to become the next prime minister of the united kingdom. i think he's seen now thathe compromise mrs. may cobbled together two yea after
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beginning this whole process was one that was not the end of thea roada compromise that would require a whole lot more concessions to brussels once the real negotiations on thi document got going because this, after all, was an attempt to ing thbritish conservative party together, not something to be negotiated with the guys in brussels. i think what boris and david davis saw his something moving away from hard sovereignty focused brexit to something fter where britain would be part of the single market, part of the custom union, subject to eluents of eropean court jurisdiction and not totally separate from the free movementb of because immigration has been a big part of the politics astthis whole thing for the l two or three years. >> brown: is theresa may'sgo rnment thought to be in is there a chance of a no-confidence vote? >> i think this is a political crisis becau she's lost two
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ministers. i doubt there will be a no confidence vote in parliament because that would risk an early general election a bring in an early party of jeremy corbyn and her party doesn't want that. could be a challenge to her leadership. she doesn have a majority in parliament. he rules realized on ten ousters from northern ireland to give her a working majority. but it is possible r opinions are so strong people might want to challenge her for the leadership. that's a separate issue and harder to predict. my hunch is that there won't beu people to overthrow her from within the party, and my hunch is thre won't be a lost motion of confidence in the parliament, bu to say that for the moment she is weakened because the deal she's put together has clearly not done the job it was intded to do which was to reunite her wnparty. >> brosir peter westmacott, thank you very much. >> my pleasure.
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>> woodruff: and now we return to the president's supreme court pick. a decision with significant political implications for both major political parties. william brangham has more on what this means for the midterm election. >> brangham: judy, to talk about the politics surrounding this and more, we're joined by amy walter, national editor of thepo "cootical report," and susan page, washington bureau chief for usa today. good evening. >> hi. so we still don't know who the president has chosen for his nominee to the supreme court, buthere's already a huge political fight brewing, a lot of political crourrents. currents. amy, take us through what you've seen so far. >> the first isow difficult o easy it will be to get the nominee through the process, getting the arings and a vot before the midterm elections.
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i think regardless of who the presidentics p, republicans will rally around the person. there may be one or l twoike susan collins or senator murkowski could defect, but i think you will get all republicans on board and thmoe is muc pressure on democrats from red states, three at least under intee.e press so this seems more likely than not that whoever the nom going to be a unifying figure for republicans, will make it through the prloocess. ho it drags out and how contentious is hearings are will be political piece of this. >> you wonder why 90% of republicans support president trump despite all the controversy, this is why, because when it comes to something fundamental, important and something thats impact for a generation, he will deliver re republicans. l four final nominees are conservative jurists and will lead to a more conservative court for decades to come. in that way, it does unit the republicans and creates terrible
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difficties, some ve tricky problems for democrats. if you're one of the d,mocra democratic senators running for reelection in a state trump carried by 20 points, do you stick with your party because your party is so energized gwen it or vote with the president because that is a safert political your home state? and that is a very difficult problem for people like joe manchin and jone donelly and some of the other senators,p heidi heitk who are in that position. >> i think it's interesting to recognize while we put a lot of attention on the supreme court because it's the highest court in the landwhat the president has done at the lower court level needs to be mentioned. >> these are all the other knurled courts. >> federal and appellate courts, he has appointed more judges to the appellate courts to any other first-term president in history. thactual ucture of the jurisdiction has already been transformeand, remember, most cases get decided at the lower
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court level. so regardls of wh's picked at the supreme court, there is already generational change happening below that. >> amy was saying that the g.o.p. is largely going to rally around this pick, whomever it is amongst the candidates. the democrats are still very, very angry at this sort of open sore about what happened with merrick garland, obama's last nominee who never got a vote. do you think that that's going to play out in the midrms at all? will democrats hold on to that or try to maknte an argun the merits of the current nominee? >> i think drms are holding grudge about what happened with merrick garland but i think they are powerless to do much about it. what americans don't care muchh about is treatment of merrick garland when nominatede for the suprurt. so i think that fuels democratic rage. one of the problems they have with this s nomineeing to be all four of the finalists are members of federal appeals urts, all of them, judge barrett less, so have long
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experience. judge kavanaugh has a long history, mainstream conservative choice, so it makes it harder to make aoherent response. you can't oppose thesaying they're too conservative. that was a desid voters made when theelected president trump in 2016. >> our lisa desjardins said she had spoken to orrin hatch who said he knewho the pick was and said it would not be amy coney barrett. >> there was some concern among senate republics it would be too much of a hot button, given her track record especially on issues like abortion, would put that in the fore. that's what democrats are hoping to make the case about which is the issue of abortion and to energize and genete more enthusiasm from their base about this, regardless ofhether this
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person actually makes it through the process. it's een afterwards they want v keep the focus on this is why it's important ote. we can't do anything now because we don't have the numbe, but if you want the change the direction to have the senate and the court, you've got to get out and vote in this nrxt election. the challenge, of course, as susan said, where the battle for the senate is tnking place is i red states, it's in the house where i think the issue is going to play very differently in suburban districts, this may help democrats, and i would be curious to see if the thoaks on roe v wade would energize voters who don't trautionally comet to vote, younger voters, especially younger women, who, by the way, like trump the least of any gro of women. >> let's just say the democrats do doride to make abon a big part of this fight, susan, couldn't it also backfire on the democrats and galvanize the social conservatives who love that the prsident has a second pick and would rally to him when
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maybe they weren't feeling as excited about him? >> yes, i think it does help unit republicans of sorts behind the president, but, in some ways, you could see the republican party planting the seeds of their long-term destruction. open an issue like, say this works in the w republicans hope it does, which is there is a more cournservator cothat overturns roe v wade, allows more restrictions at state level to allow for access to abortn, and if the voters that hold you responsible for limits overabortion they fiercely oppose, over the long haul could be a problem for the republican. >> after theesident makes his announcement, he flies off to attend the n.a.t.o. summit. h said other n.a.t.o. allies have not spent enough on defense, after a tense g7
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meeting. this could be a tense gathering. >> it could be. i was struck with judy's inteiew with kay bailey hutchessen who was representinge a different than the president, how terrible putin, istick together with nato, and this is a challenge for europeans who say the secretary of defense is telling us one thing, the u.n. ambassador is telling us one thing, but the president is tweet ago totally different story. where are we supposed to go in myis? >>alter, susan page, thank you very much. >> thank you. you're welcome. >> woodruff: it is a disturbing issue, but one that is growing:r thuction of millions of pornographic images of children being sexually abused. a th uploaded from cell phones, web cams, and computers. john ferrugia of rocky mountain
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pbs has the story of one family who was a victim and explores what you can do to protect your children. >> there was a card on our front door from the f.b.i. and immediately our hearts sank.ug we t, why is the f.b.i. contacting us? >> reporter: sevenears ago, beth and her husband couldn't imagine what the f.b.i. wanted, but they agreed to meet. >> and they said we believe your sohas been a victim of a crime. and i said impossible my son is at home. and he showed me the photos and immediately i just broke down. and my husband broke down crying. >> reporter: what she saw was her then four-year-old son being sexually abused, the acts documented istill images and video, and uploaded to the internet. it had been going on for two years. >> and they asked us if we knew who the person was and where he could be located, and...id >> reporter:ou?
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>> i did. he actually was a family friend that we had known for a long time, almost my whole life. >> it's your neighbor, it's your pastor, it's your teacher, it's your soccer coach, we've had all of those types of people, people with kids people without kids >> reporter: f.b.i. special agent tina fourkas has beente investigating et child pornography in the denver field office for more than seven years. >> i wish there was some magic profile where we could identify these people but there. >> reporter: it was fourkas, along with agents in illinois, mioouri, arizona, and color who were able to identify son. through eir investigation they discovered he had been a victim in a multi-state child porn ring, and the ents tracked down those who had sexually abused him for years. >> my son was going to my dad's meuse. my dad also had eople that were helping him out providing care and resources at his house. >> reporter: so he had no id?
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>> he had absolutely no idea. >> reporter: the men, one married with two children and the other single, who cess to beth's son, were arrested and convicted. >> the break in the case came with the arrest of this man: richard franklin. he is a 50-year-old military veteran who lived in this quiet denver neighborhood with his parents, who knew nothing abou their son's criminal obsession. >> you take a quick walk around the house and you immediately know usually who your subject is because it's the bedroom with all the computers and all the keyboards. >> reporter: f.b.i. photos from their search of the house show how franklin closeted himself with his computers where he could view images he collected of children being sexually abused. >> he had hundreds of thousands images and videos of child pornography. >> reporter: hundreds of thousands?es >>undreds of thousands. >> reporter: franklin's images of sexually abused children, stored on these hard drives, were being traded with likrs minded predall over the u.s. and beyond. franklin wasdvertising for child porn, receiving images, including those of beth's son and ading images from his
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collection. franklin was convicted and sentenced to 100 yfers in ral prison. the national center for missingl and ted children, known as "nec-mec," works with federal, state, and local law enforcement to identify children in photos who are being sexuly abused. here is how it works: internet service providers like ggle, yahoo, and others monitor the billions of uploads and downloads of material with algorithmshat search for possible child pornography. when it is detected, the provids review them and contact "nec-mec," sending a sample image as well as information about thweb server and address. it is then passed along to the f.b.i. for possiblest ination. >> we're able to run those images against known images that ncmec has and that may play a part in victim identification. >> reporter: calvin shivers is the special agent in charge of the f.b.i. office in denver. he previously headed the violent crimes against children section at f.b.i. headquarters. he says, in colorado, about 50% of child porn cases investigated are derived from tips from internet providers through the
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non-profit. >> a lot of times when you just not a general tip there ma be enough information. but ncmec, because of the experience staff they're able to in some instances call additional information that may help the investigation. >> reporte compiled by the national center for missing and exploited children has exploded in recent years. ng 2010, there were more than 213,000 tips involhild pornography. hin 2017 the number of ti exploded to more than 10 million. >> the number of cases that that are happening. it's an avalanche. i mean, we just feel like we're dishing the ocean out with a spoon. >> reporter: judy ith is chief of the cyber crime and national security section of the u.s. attorney's office in denves >> nobody wa know that this dark side of humanity exists, and not just exists, but the scope of it. >> reporter: judy smitys another growing concern involves increasingly younger kids carrying smart phones. >> they can take pictures of themselves and they can send those to their friends or somebody who they think are friends. there's online predators out there who pose as young boys or
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girls, who then entice or ask kids to self-produce cld pornography. >> reporter: and f.b.i. special agent tina fourkas says once just one photo is sent by an unsuspecting child or teen to a predator posing online as another kid as illustrated in this nc-mec training video. >> they can be blackmailed or they're too embarrassed to say anything so they continue to send pictures. >> reporter: and to emphasize the point, fourkas noted that while we were conversing on an per floor of the f.b.i. building in denver. >> people are actively postingch d pornography on one of my undercover computers downstairso righ there's a little girl on that site you can tell she's self- producing. i mean she's holding the cell olone out she's nude she's maybe ten, eleven year >> reporter: you're seeing this? >> and we're seeing this live on whthis site. is she taking pictures of herself? where are her parents? >> you know parents should be cognizant of what their ildren are doing on the internet and on their smartphones just across the board.
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>> reporter: and f.b.i. special agent in charge, calvin shiversn says it goes bmonitoring. >> parents should also make sure that there's a good enue for their children to communicate and if they had that conversation and the children know that they can come to them to your point a lot of the victims don't feel that they can -vlk to their parents and that causes them to be timized over and over again.>> eporter: for beth's son and for her family, on-going therapy has brought them beyond trauma, to hope. es how does your son see his future? >> oh, it's very posite. and he's also going to have this story to go with it that. you know, i dealt with this as a child and look here i am and you can get through it too. >> reporter: beth and her family riy they hope public discussion of this horrific will bring public awareness and reduce the stigma for victims whose childhood photos often remain accessible on the web. and, that it will help victims and their families heal. for the pbs newshour, i'm john ferria in denver.
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