tv PBS News Hour PBS July 13, 2018 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT
3:00 pm
captioning sponsored by inewshour productns, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: the u.s. department of justice indicts 12 russian intelligence officers for interference in the 2016 election, just days before president trump's meeting with president putin. then, mr. trump tries to defuse tensions with british prime minister theresa may, after criticizing her handling of britain's exit from the european union. and, it's friday. mark shields and reihan salam are here to analyze a packed week of news. plus: ♪ ♪ >> woodruff: uncovering the holy grail of jazz. more than five decades later, music lovers get a new album of lost recordings by jazz legend john coltrane.
3:01 pm
>> he had complete mastery of the repertoire of jazz, and he's taking that repertoire and the style into a whole other realm. we sti see the relevance of his music now. >> woodruff: all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major fding for the pbs wshour has been provided by: >> consumer cellular understands that not everyone needs an unlimited wireless plan.as our u.s. customer service reps can help you choose a plan based on how much you use your one, nothing more, nothi less. to learn more, go to nsumercellular.tv >> financial services firm raymond james. >> leidos. >> babbel. a language app that teaches
3:02 pm
real-life conversations in a new language. f >> td foundation. working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. >> andith the ongoing support of these institutions: and friends of the newshour. >> this program was ma possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contrutions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: two leading stories this friday night. new legal charges in the special counsel's russianvestigation, as president trump stirs things up in his visit to britain.
3:03 pm
we begin with the indictments returned by a federal grand jury in washingto. >> i would call it the witch hunt. i would call it the rigged witch hunt. >> woodruff: while presidenttr p spent part of his day in europe condemning the russia probe, rod rosenstein, the amputy attorney general of the united states, metas back in washington, to announce yet more charges in the investigation.ic >> the ient charges 12 russian military officers by name for conspiring to interfere th the 2016 presidential election. oodruff: the indictment formally alleges that a dozen russian intelligence officials hacked into the computers of the clinton campgn, the democratic party, and state election officials, and staged the public release of damagg information. the indictment does not charge that russians changed the ouome of the election, nor that any americans knowingly correspond with russian officials. >> we need to work together to
3:04 pm
hold the perpetrators accountable. when we confront foreign interference in american elections, it is important for us to avoid thinking politically, as republicans orat demo and instead to think patriotically as americans. woodruff: the announcement comes just three days before president trump is set to meet in finland, one-on-one, withss ru's president vladimir putin. today on capitol hill, democrats sharply questioned if that meeting should still take place. senate intelligence vice chaian mark warner: >> if president trump and his team are not willing to make the facts of this indictment a top priority at their meeting in helsinki, the summit should beed canc >> woodruff: and adam schiff, the ranking member of the house intelligence committee: >> let's not add insult to injury to our allies by having a lovey-dovey meeting between the president of the united stes and the man responsible for just hacking into our election >> woodruff: president trump's
3:05 pm
lawyer, rudy giuliani, celebrated the announcement, tweeting, "time for mueller to end this pursuit of the president." the white house echoed that sentiment, adding that the charges adid not naone on the trump campaign. for a closer look at these indictments, and the questions still unanswed about the investigations into election interference, i'm joined by asha rangappa. she's a former f.b.i. agent who specialized in counter- intelligence investigations. she is now a lecturer at yale university. asha rangappa, welcome to the "newshour". what is your main takeaway tmom these indts returned today? >> i think there are two big takeways from the indictment. irstfirst is these are the charges we're seeing from mueller that is directly supporting the i.c. assessment that russia as a nation state hacked into the d.n.c. email server,ni wead the information and tried to
3:06 pm
influence the election and went ntother than that, went state boards of elections and took voter data. we had indictments of russia's before, but those weren't directly tied to russian intelligence. there were links, but these are essian military intellige officers. the other big takeway is thats mueller ing after the russians, and this is important because, ultimately, this is a unterintelligence investigation and, under the special counsel regulations under which he'sed appoihe does haven't the authority to create a public report to congress. these indictments are, in a way, a vehicle for him to let the public know exactly how russia executed its covert operation in their election me>>dling efforts. oodruff: i think some people are looking at this and saying, well, no americans were named. the trump white house, the ndpresident, the people arhe president are pointing that out, the president's personal lagiwyr rudiani pointed that out. it's as if they're saying, well,
3:07 pm
this is justomething the russians did, americans weren't involved. that's true, there aren't t,ericans directly charged in this indictment, judy, we need to remember that indictments can be superseded, which means they can be amended to include new defendants, and it's important to note there are conspiracy charges in this indictment, conspiracy to commit computer crimes, so anyone who could be a part of that conspiracy, meaning they knew what was goin on and d even one act, can be added. so we know there's a reporter that might be in contact, a person running for u.s. congress who was soliciting some infmpormation, and a senior t official who was in contact. whether this was knlling or not make a huge difference, but i think it doesn't mean that it's the end of the story on this particular set of allegatf:ns. >> woodro, in other words, even though these 12 individuals, these intelligence htficers may never be broo
3:08 pm
justice, it's hard to believe the russians would willingly turn these people over. you're sayng this is still significant? this is absolutely still significant. you know, in the world of intelligence, you typically don't lay out for your adversary th you know what you've uncovered. leu don't want to lay your cards on the t and it's actually a risk for mueller because, in the previous indictmet with russians, the companies that were conducting the disinformation campa fgn, they haght back in court, and this places mueller in a position of having to reveal in discovery how he obtained this information which can giv russia a heads-up on our urs and methods. so i think he has decided it is very important for the public tn exactly what occurred and how it occurred in order for th understand the threat that otherwise might be invisible. >> woodruff: asha rangappa, can we tell from looki at these indictments returned today
3:09 pm
how much more there is, how much a part of thele bigger pudo we now have completed at this t?po >> so, there are several threads to what we have been referring to as russia's active measures. there's the disinformation cabeaign where there hav indictments, there is this hacking effort which now there are indictments, there may be a campaign finance violations for which there may bin dimes, and- theny be indictments, and then i think the question is who is helpi the russians? it would be highly unusual for a foreign intelligence service to be ablto execute something in the united states without people on the ground helping them. now, those could beussian agents, they could be u.s. persons, but i would be surprised if the weren't other people that were eventually named in assisting or facilitating russia in helping to carry out what is a very elaborate campaign to meddle in
3:10 pm
our election. >> woodruff: meaning cld be americans named? >> it could be americans, absolutely. >> woodruff: unanswered questions -- what do you still o wantow? what should we be looking for for the special counsel to tell us the next time there is andi ment returned, if there is one? >> well, i think what im curious about in light of this most recent set of indictments is what this means in terms of some of thectns and contacts in the trump cam for example, the trump tower meeting which was i an offer of e-mails or dirt on hillary clinton, which we now know is linked back to russian intelligence. there is also communications between donald trump, jr. and roger stone with wikileaks, which it's named as organization one, but it's in t indictment as coordinating with russian
3:11 pm
intelligence. again, these could be unknowing or unwitting but i think there more scrutiny on why these contacts have been denied. then, i think, i judy, the the very puzzling call o during the debate by then candidate trump for russia to hack into hillary clinton's i mails and then in thee indict there was one attempt on that ngevening. ticoincidence, wit org not, i think all those things will take on more scrutiny and nsthere are more quest on timing and what people knew. >> woodruff: so quickly, does this tell ushis is about to wrap up soon, or not? >> i don't think this is close to wrapping up at all. in fact, i think what this shows is mueller is investigating a number of different fronts, he is proceeding full easpeed on all of them, he's even preparing for trial for manafort now. so i think for those who think this could wp up before midterm elections, i think they
3:12 pm
will be disappointed. >> woodruff: asha rangappa,ve we thank yo much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: news of the russia indictments came as president trump was in britain. but his visit to one of america's closest fries was greeted by a storm of protesters, and by a storm he created over his potshots at british leaders. ryan chilcote begins our coverage. >> reporter: this was the picture president trump had long sought: an audience with queen elizabeth. a military honor guard standing at attention at windsor castle, followed by tea with the 92-year-old monarch. but the courtly scene followed a day of chaos, after a. trump lobbolley of verbal grenades squarely at british prime minister theresa may. in an interview conducted with ethe "sun" tabloid before arrived, the president said may botched britain's leaving the ropean union.
3:13 pm
and, he warned, that's endangered a potential trade deal with the united states. >> i did give theres- who i like-- i did give her my views on what she should do and how she should negotiate. and she didn't follow those views. i'd actually say she even went the opposite way. no, it'll definitely affect trade with the united states, unfortunately in a negative way. >> reporter:he broadside struck a prime minister already gnations frome her government this week over brexit. mr. trump even praised one of those who quit, former foreign secretary boris johnson, as a potential prime minister. he's said to covet theob. on the heels of those headlines, the president arrived midday at chequers, thprime minister's retreat outside london. after a meeting and lunch with may, both leaders took questions. >> i didn't criticize the prime minister. t i have a lot of respr the prime minister. >> reporter: the president explayed down hiosive
3:14 pm
comments to the "sun" with a now-familiar tactic. >> unfortunately, there was a story that was done, which was, you know, generally fine, but it didn't put in what i said about the prime minister, and i said emendous things. t we record when we deal with reporters. it's called ke news. >> reporter: as far as may was concerned-- publicly, at least-- it was much ado about nothing. >> we agreed today lhat as the u.ves the european union, we will pursue an ambitious u.s.-u.k. freerade agreement. >> reporter: mr. trump had also blasted european migration oipolicy in the tainterview; today, he and may sharply diverged on its value. >> i just think it's changing the culture. i think it's a very negative thing for europe. liand i know it's cally, not necessarily correct, to say that, but i'll sayt and i'll say it loud. and i think they better watch eemselves, because you ar changing culture, you are changing a lot of things, you're changing security. eeand that's the way i >> the u.k. has a proud history
3:15 pm
of welcoming people who are fleeing persecutioto our country. we have a proud history of welcoming people who want to come to our country, to contribute to our economy and contribute to our societ >> reporter: having already denounced the "sun" interview as "fake news"-- though it was his voice, recorded and distributed by the paper-- the president balsted nbc news and cnn: >> cnn is fake news. i don't take questions from cnn. john roberts of fox. let's go to a real-- let's go to a real network. >> reporter: the white house correspondents association issued a response, that read, ngin part, "sa news organization isn't real doesn't change the facts and won't stop us from doing our jobs." president trump meets monday with vladimir putin, but he argued, the russian president thwill not focus oturmoil he caused at a tense nato meeting yesterday morning in brussels. t headline he sees is what happened in the afternoon, where where they're putting uphere, billions ododollars more.
3:16 pm
ou think putin's happy about that? k i don't th. >> particularly following the nato summit, the president is going into this meeting with president putin from that position of strength. >> reporter: after the second, s press conference in tw days, mr. trump declared his verdict on the state of u.s.- u.k. relations. >> i wou of special.ghest level am i allowed to go-- am i allowed to go higher than that? i'm not sure, but it's the highest level of special. >> reporter: but there was no praise for london's yor, sadiq khan, who is muslim. in the "sun" interview, the president blamed him for terrorism the british capital, linking it to migration: >> take a look at the terrorism that's taking place, look at wh i think he's done a terrible job. >> immigration has brought huge benefits to our city and our country, economically, sociall and culturally, and it's really important that we stand up for those values that we hold dear. >> reporter: and in london today, a floating incarnation of the disgust many britons feel about this visit: a 20-foot-tall caricature of mr. trump as a diaper-wearing baby, phone held in hand.
3:17 pm
tens of thousands marched in the >> i am fed up with the way rytrump isg to manipulate the world into his, well, almost nazi views. he thinks he is right on everything. >> reporter: it's just the t latest such protnce he took office, and, mr. trump told his tabloid interviewer that he felt "unwelcome" in london. the feeling, apparently for many here, s mutual. woodruff: and ryan chilcote owjoins merom london. ryan, now that president trump has flown to scotland to spend the weekend at his golf club, is there a consensus there on the impact this visit will have. >> look, i think from the prime minister's perspective, i think this was probably a worst case scenario. while theresa may may not have expected the president to supporpublicly her pat that she's chosen for taking the united kingdom out of the european union, the so-called soft brexit, she definitely woulhave been looking for h to very publicly endorse the
3:18 pm
idea that, once the u.k. leaves the european union, it's biggest trade partner, it could definite have a very solid trade relationship and free trade deal with the united states. the question is what kind of influence does president trump have here in the u.k.? you know, hed underminee prime minister, you could say, eut will he really change the political landschen it comes to the almost existential question of how the u.k. exits the european union. and i think the answer to that is maybe not so muchteecause, all, if you think about it, a lot of the people that support a real hard break, the u.k. making a hard break with the european union, members of the consvative party in this country, well, they're actually, politicay speaking, a bit further for the left than, say, the republicans in the united states. in many ways, they're more like the democrats in the united states. who will embolden the marginal powers in the un people who aren't in the seat of
3:19 pm
power behind me here, but it's not entirely clear he will be able to bring down the prime minister with the interview he ga o before he arrived herer if he's going to be able to change the course of how the country exits the european union. >> woodruff: is it fair to say europeans see a difference in the president's approach tohi pulitzer prize year versus last year? >> you know, i think that what they have found is that his approach to foreign policy is quite similar. last year, of course, they were a little bit surprised. i think they're less surprised now, and i think te takeway here is, tactically, they believe that thent presi when he is speaking publicly, thinks it's proprieta and effective to publicly criticize others, even allies, whether they're allies at n.a.t.o. or here in the u.k., you know, the prime minister's govrnment, while playing nice and saying nice things at th'vsame time. thsort of decided or learned that that is how he
3:20 pm
operates. beyond that, i think that there's also a feeling that, at the end of theday, this president strategically speaking, is really motivated b eanistaste for the europ union. that was very clear when he was at n.a.t.o. he talked a lot about trade, the e.u. being unfair when it comes to trade when it deals with the united states and even in the u.k., many will s his criticism to have a soft break, keep many to have the elements in tact, many will see that because he wants to make the e.u. weaker. >> woodruff: ryan chilcote, covering from london. thank you, ryan. >> thank you, >> woodruff: we return now to the u.k. and what the s presidensit means for the transatlantic relathionship, and his meeting on monday with russia's president vladimir putin. john yang has that. >> yang: judy, for perspective on this, here's longtime u.s. diplomat nick burns,
3:21 pm
former ambassador to nato and former under-secretary of state for political affairs. mr. burns, welcome. this -- theresa may res the first n leader to visit president trump at the white house after his inauguratioon his trip ton is something by all accounts he really wanted to happen. now that it happened and now that this is what he did on this >>rst visit, what do you make of this? ell, john, it's hard to think of a more chaotic and disputacious president to landon or a n.a.t.o.ll as the president has had. before heet theresa may, he started a fight with angela merkel, threatened to leave the n.a.t.o. alliance at one point during the n.a.t.o. meeting, he certainly tr undermine the european union. then this explosive interview in the sun, the tabloid newspaper. theresa may is trying to put a brexit proposal forward that
3:22 pm
might incite a rebellion in the conservative party. the president came out against it. he came out against her strategy. he came out in suppof her greatest foe boris johnson, and this was a direct attack on the prime minister, and despite what the president said in his press conference today, trying to roll ck his statements, this was the real donald trump in that sun interview. >> he said, as you say, he praised boris johnson, said boris johnson would be a great prime minister. the strongest he went on mrs. may is she's a fineoman, she's a good woman. what has he done to her political chances domestically in britain? >> the president's ideological kindred the u.k. politics would be the conservatives who are in favor of aough, hard brexit, as they call it, a complete separation to have the united kgdom from the european union. the prime minister's view sit has to be a softer brexit,
3:23 pm
meaning some ties have toemain in order to even sure the success of the british economy. the presiden directly emboldent her strongest critics. imagine if theresa may came into the white house, into the rose garden and said publicly with the president standing beside her, i think that jeff flake, john corker or john kasich would make a o great presidethe united states, our president would be furious. that'st wump did to her twice. so the president directlyte ene in british politics in e e most unhelpful way. he's de same thing with the german chancellor, two rsfemale lea which has the attention of a lieutenant of people in europe who thinks hek does pn female leaders, and these are the two closest friends the united states has in the world, germany and the united kingdom. >> you talked about what he did in brussel now in london. next stop helsinki, where heut meets vladimir, and then
3:24 pm
today's indictment from the justice department, the strongest evidence yet of direct trrussian governmenng to meddle in the u.s. election. what does this do to thiset g? >> it makes it absolutely necessary, if there is going to be a meeting, donald trump the question.sk that's what he said today, he said i'll ask president putin if he'll intervene. he needs to know a federal grand juror indicted 12 russianin lligence officials today, the grand jury said there's a conspiracy to undermine our election. the president has to make the case to putin that this will not happen again, that the united states will maintain or increase sanctions against russia and encourage others to do that. he has to defend us. his primary job as commander-in-chief is to defend the country. there's been an attack on our electoraem from our greatest adversary.
3:25 pm
if he goes in and says i will ask him but i don't expect anan er, he has to be strong and not weak, but he has been very weak in front of president putin the several times they met in the last months. he's side said over and over again he wants to have a great shrelati with vladimir putin. can he do that and defend the united >> you know, the point of diplomacy is to get our way internationally and to defend our country. so, in addition to the russian interference in our election there's the russian u.k. nerve agent atck, a british woman lost her life last week because of the attack. there's the fact russia crossed the brightths redby lin invading and an exing crimea. there are u.s. sanction on russian cposed bygress over these b objections to russia's actions, and the president has
3:26 pm
tostand if he's going to maintain political support in the country, threspect of our allies and even president putin, he has to be tougher than putit. s not enough to say that we just want to get along with a person w's trying to undermine our country. we have to defeat that person,er block thatn and do everything we can to protect our own country.ro that's whaald reagan would have done, that's what any american president before donald trump would have done. >> former ambassador nick burns, thank you very much. >> thank you, john. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, bombings rocked election rallies in pakistan, killing at least 130 people and wounding more than 300 others. the worst attack was in the southwest, where victims included a candidate for a provincial legislature. islamic state militants claimed responsibility. anile, former prime minister
3:27 pm
nawaz sharif and his daughter returned to the country, to face prison terms for corruption. another american soldier has died in afghanistan, the second u.s. combat death this week. pentagon officials say an army sergeant was killed yesterday in a firefight. aout 15,000 american troo now stationein afghanistan. police in britain say they have located the source of a nerve agent that killed that woman and sickened her partner, as john referred to. afr an all-out search, the found a bottle in the woman's home that tested positive for novichok it is unclear where the bottle came from. last march, a former russian spy and his daughter were poisoned with novichok in a nearby town. britain blames rusa, but the kremlin denies it. the united nations security council imposed an arms embargo on south sudan today. the u.s.-drafted resolution
3:28 pm
received nine yes votes, the minimum required for adoption. ambassador nikki haley said it is a vital step to ending the five-year civil war. >> the goal of this resolution is simple. reif woing to help the people of south sudan, we need stthe violence t. and to stop the violence, we need to stop the flow of weapons to armed groups, that they're using to fight each other and to ize the people. >> woodruff: there have been several attempts at cease-fires in sudan since 2015, including one last month. all have failed. the u.n.'s migration agency announced today that algeria has halted the mass expulsions of migrants into the sahara desert. edlast month, the associatress reported that 13,000 were dropped off at the borders with niger and mali, over 14 months. now, they're being held, instead, in crowded jails. it is an effort to stop them from heading north, to europe. back in this country, the
3:29 pm
inspector general for the u.s. department of health and human services says former secrety tom price misspent $341,000 on travel. that includes booking charter afflights and military air rather than using commercial airlines. price was forced out last fall, after reports of his travel spending sfaced. the u.s. commerce department has formally lifted a seven-year ban on u.s. companies selling parts to chinese telecom giant zte. the trump administration imposed the ban for violating sanctions iran and north korea. then, it agreed to a settlement that included a $1 billion fine. and, on wall street, the dow jones industrial average gained 94 points to close at 25,019. e nasdaq rose two points, and the s&p 500 added three. for the week, the dow gained 2%. the nasdaq and the s&p 500 rose more than 1.5%.
3:30 pm
still to come on the newshour: mark shields and reihan salam analyze president trump's chaotic trip to europe and, the lost music of jazz great john coltrane. >> woodruff: it has be a busy week in politics, here at home and abroad. for more, we turn to the analysis of shieats and salam. s syndicated columnist mark shields, and "national review" executive editor reihan salam. and david brooks isway. we welcome both of you. what a week, mark. let's start with the special counsel returning these indictments today, sweeping indictment saying the russians were behind a conspiracy to not only hack into the computers of hillary clinton's campaign, the democratic national committee, but to go into state voting
3:31 pm
systems. how significant is this? >>dyt's quite significant, and traces it right back to the russian government. i know we're talking aut 12 12 intelligence agents on russian espionage associated with the russian military with g.r.u., their official agency. i talk about a witch hunt anything of the sort. it turns out that monday in helsinki will be a campaign reunion of sorts for donald trump and his favorite absentee reter. i don't think ths any question of russian involvement has grown as a real likelihood, just not a possibility. >> woodruff: how serious should the american people takth . >> very seriously. one problem, however, is we really need to get to theottom of this is an independent commission. after the 9/11 terror attac, after you had a spade of urban
3:32 pm
rioting in this country, we had serious independent commission that had bipartisan credibility that tried to get to the bottom of our vulnerabilities, what went wrong, which systems were vuerable, and then tried t find solutions for those problems. notproblem now is we are treating this as a national emergency wrerks treating this as a partisan investigation, and i think been a problem from the start. we really need an independent commission to understand our vulnerabilities. >> woodruff: mark, is this investigation credibl and partisan? >> the partisan angle is solely on the part of the administration and republicans in congres n there a partisan corpuscle in bob mueller's system. there really isn't. this is man who has been a republican, appointed by a republican president, whose appointment was widely lauded from republicans, including newt ckngrich across the board. any f credibility or erosion of confidence is solely as a part fe concentrated
3:33 pm
effort from the administration. >> woodruff: by reihan, you're seeing it differently? >> i do. part of the issue is there aren't necessarily prosecutable crimes at work. what we're dealing with is a larger systemic failure. when you're seeing it solely lethrough the of who can and can't be prosecuted you might miss some of the vulnerabilities, and if you treat it purely as a prosecutionle system, you may tt see this is an attack on our democratic systet necessitates new tools that go well beyond a prosecutor's case. >> woodru, ff: wehat may grow from this, but, in the beginning, robert mueller, the people hwas appointed b as mark just said, they're saying this is somebody who's independent. >> oh, i think that robert mueller deserves a great deal of respect, i think that's absolutely true, but that doesn't change the fact that he's working in a process that may itself be a broken process.
3:34 pm
i do notuestion his integrity. i question whether this is the right approach to deal with a national attack on our democracy. >> the great urban investigations occurred after national riots, after 9/11 was after a national catastrophe when our country was attacked and there was not a consensus, there was unanimity in t country and led by the administration in both cases. the demorats in the fst and the republicans under george w. bush in the second. so the idea that a president who has denied anything, has refute nclusions of the intelligence agencies and the senate intelligence committee chaired by republican richard burr ofinorth caris not going to be plausible as someone who would lead or appoint such a commission. >> i really do think that the perception that this is about basically hunting down potential perpetrators within the trump
3:35 pm
campaign and wht have you, that has taken us away from thinking o this as a general attack on our democrac our institutions, and i think had we taken a different approach, hads n it that way from the get-go, you might have gotten more buyn from supporters of the president who don't necessarily think this is fair and square. >> nobody knows what bob mueller is doing. he is full of fastidiousness and secrecy. of he deserves a great deal credit. >> he does. >> woodruff: in terms of what's going on now, this comese a cof days before the president is due to be in helsinki meeting one on one with president putin, mark. what should the president say to vladimir putin in this meeting, and should this meeting go ahead? some democrats are saying it should be canceled now. >> i think it should go ahead. i don't thinks therehould be any one on one private meetings with the two off the record. i think whae have now is a president who needs to confront the ersoviet aary and say to
3:36 pm
him 12 of your own agents in a governhat you control, that you lead have been indicted, i want them extradited to the united stes to stand trial. >> woodruff: what do you think the president should say, and are you comfortable with the president putin one on one? >> look, i'm not comfortable with the fact that we're havingi this s meeting without the months and sometimes years of preparation you typically have before such a meeting, but what we do know the donald trump promised diplomatic breakthroughs, he promised to be a different kind of preside and that's w he's pursuing the very different path. i'm very concerned abt one thing in particular, vladimir putin is going to want to offer a big diplomatic breakthrough nald trump. the question is lit be consummate with the long-term interests of the united states, particularly if you look at sir i can't presidrump and president putin did actually manage to broker deals in syria that looked promising, let's deescalate the conflict. the russians have t delivered
3:37 pm
on their end of the bargain. so now if the russians make big promises, the president needs to be sure that the russians are rifiably going to deliver. he should not make promises the russia going to be willing to take up their end of the bargain on. >> woouff: mark, a you confident he will handle this? >> no, wdid get disarmament of burth korea, the president told us this happened it hasn't been verified yet. he likes the big moment, the spotlight. donald trump, i think it's fair to say, if you remove the first person singular from his vocabulary -- i, me, mine -- it would be calvin coolidge. it's all about donald trump. we saw that, judy, in the n.a.t.o. meeting when he goes in and cuts the knees off of prime minister theresa may, who's under assault and siege at home, and laudser principle
3:38 pm
competitor boris johnson and recommends him for prime minister by saying what? he likes me, he sayss good thi about me, and that's the recommendation. >> forgive me for turning to russia for one moment. one thing we should not forget is for the last 18 months the united states government and the trump administration has actually put in place sanctions against russ oligarchs, hardened n.a.t.o.'s eastern frank, taken many steps that are, in fact, very tough on the russians. en you look at the substance of his agenda. so we can't lose sight of the fact when it comes to policies, trump administration has been tough on russia. >> woodruff:. >> woodruff: so what about the records praising vladim putin? >> donald trump believes you need to be tough on one hand but create a opening for possible diplomatic breakthrough. i suggest with president putin, he needs to be cautiousut the
3:39 pm
substance has been hawkish over the last few months >> saying crimea is primarily a russian ethnic untry which is exactly the points made by putin and the russian government after the invasion and occupation of crimea, has been -- >> he's also in ukraine with anti-tank weapons. >> the fact is the bulwark against russian soviet imperalism interventionism has been n.a.t.o., and he hasen we nate o. he has sabotaged his own partners. >> woodruff: what is the legacy, reihan, of the president's actions over the last few days with the n.a.to. allies and then in great britain with there may? >> over the last few days there has been a lot of consternation with our allies, our leaders feel backe in a corner and don't like it.
3:40 pm
if you look at the trump presidency, it is true the n.a.t.o. military allies boosted their spending, you talk about n,rmanent structured cooperatiouilding up capabilities long term to meet the threat from russia and north africa. you have a you were that is more formidable and capable now. they're not going to acknowledge this or that it's donald trump who's driven to that, but he's a role in spurring them on. >> woodruff: you say he deserves credit for what's going on in europe and with theresa may? >> no, i think that the president should definitely not be as undiplomatic as he hasho been, heuld be more magnanimous, but i think y a have to lo the substance as well as the rhetoric of what's going on. wha you look at the subce, it makes me feel better about what i don't feel greatbout which is he really hasn't been as tactful and constructive with our european allies when it comes to rhetoric as he might d. >> the wor not begin with donald trump. the defense budgets had been on
3:41 pm
the increase before donald trump came and they've continued to be. but ality is that there's no reason in the world nat any european country should be devote the same percentage ofna onal defense that we do. they're not global powers. portugal doesn't have installations on five different continue nantz. i don't kn if donald trump appreciates the fact that ramson air force base is the key in germany that we can't move bases both in italy and in turkey as well. i mean, this has en a cooperative, collegial effort that the only time in the y of n.a.t.o. that article 5, mutual defense had been invoked was september 13, 2001, that the united states was attacked there are graves in latvia, lithuania,ortugal, spain and sweden of young swedes and soldiers who fought f the united states in afghanistan
3:42 pm
under the n.a.t.o. banner. mp doesn'tdonald t seem to understand that, and it's weakened that coalition, quite frankly. >> i see this a bdierently. if you're looking at europe right now, europe faces tremendous vulnerabilities, carticularly from sub-saharan afnorth africa, and that migration crisis stand in part from the security vulnerabilities, that is why europe is stepping up, and also, whether they acknowedge it or not, it's partly because donald trump has put the sleight on the fact that we haven't always had equitable burned sharing. this is not an issue only raised by dond trump, was raised by barack obama and predecessors, but donald trump cerhas pressed the issue and i believe there has been a meaningful response from governments on the left and right across europe. >> i just say all politics in the final analysis is local. what goes around comes around. bothd trump has taken angela merkel m and theresa at times of political vulnerabilita
3:43 pm
domestically aacked them and really stuck a knife into them, and i will be honest with you, when he does go after em, they're going to have to go back to their home constituencies, establish they independent from him, tto assertir own independence and autonomy. the alliance iseakened. it is not a cooperative, cleanle alliance. >> let's not forget donald trump, when he said critical things about theresa may, he apologized and, instead of doubling down, he said, in fact, this is an incredibly vital and important relationship, and i absoluant a trade agreement with the u.k. it is very rare for donald trump to not double down to, actually say, hey, i'm going to take a step back, and that shows there is more than one dimension to the figure who's often caricatured. >> he denied, said it was fake news and was on tape saying what he said.
3:44 pm
>> he's off the cuff and that'se a che but that's why he has been able to shake things up. woodruff: we may not be able to resolve this all today. thank you, mark shields, reihan salam. ea woodruff: lost recordings from one of the of jazz, now found. jeffrey brown visited jo coltrane's recording studio, where the mystery began. the recently-discovered music gives coltrane-- more than 50 years after his death-- his highest-ever debut on worldwide charts and in sales. >> 11382, 11383, original, take one. ♪ ♪ >> brown: a famed cording studio.
3:45 pm
one of the greatest jazz ensembles ever. a beautiful blast back to music made on a single day in march, 1963. ♪ ♪ t the van gelder studio englewood cliffs, new jersey, a group of critics, family members, and music executives gathered recently to hear a lost recording by saxophonist john coltrane and other members o his classic quartet: pianist mccoy tyner, bassist jimmy garrison and drumm elvin jones. among them, ravi coltrane, 's son, and himself a highly-regarded sax player. >> it's like discovering a buriasure. i hear him basically with one in the past and one foot sort of aiming toward his future. >> bwn: thus the title of a new release of seven tunes, which ravi helped produce: "both directions at once: the lost album." >> the record contains a lot of al that could have easil ended up, you could easily hear it in recordings that he could have made five years earlier.
3:46 pm
you know, blues and bebop tunes, combined with more modal pieces, more experimental pieces that he would eventually g to later, in '64 and '65. it's a timeless group. we're still talking about these players,nd we're still talking about this band, decades later. >> brown: johnoltrane was a titan, one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century, in jazz or any other gee. he first made his name in the mid-1950s. growing more and more assured, innovating constantly, trying new sounds, he reached jazz h lovers with recordings s his 1960 album, "giant steps," and a wider audience with hits like his version of "my favorite things," released a year later. >> he had complete mastery of
3:47 pm
thrtoire of jazz, and he's taking that repe and the style into a whole other realm. we're still seeing tevance of his music now. >> brown: ken druker is an executive with verveds, which is releasing the music on the impulse la closely associated with coltrane. he says the saxophonist was at the peak of his powers during these sessns. do you have a fa song on this? >> i love the track that opens, the romantically title83," just because of the energy, immediately from the first note. ( ♪ "11383" ) >> there are tracks on this album that are more straight ahead. ( ♪ "vilia" ) >> there's a lot of blues. ( ♪ "slow blues" ) >> but thee are original
3:48 pm
compositions that are a little more searching ( ♪ "one up, one down" ) >> brown: just how this music was lost in the first place is something of a mystery. coltrane was recording a lot at the time. he and the band were back here the very next day to make an album inger johnny hartman that would become a classic. they were also at the end of a two-week run at the famed birdland club in manhattan. the march 6th session, capturing some of that live feel in the udio, was recorded on both a "master" and "reference" tape-- the latter f coltrane to take home. the master was lost. coltrane's personal tape turned up yearsater with the family of his first naima. ken druker and others heard the music for the first time last december. you had heard the recording
3:49 pm
enoutside the studio, and ou came here. what happened? >> i ce in here, walked in this area right there, where the band would have been set up. and the music was played through the speakers, just stopped in my tracks. in was literally spine-tin it was as if the band was here playing. >> brown: the "here" is also an important part ojazz history: the secluded van gelder studio is hallowed ground, where the likes of duke ellington, dizzy gillespie, herbie hancock and many others recorded albums. rudy van gelder, who died in 2016, actually began recording jazz in hints' house in hackensack. he made a living as an optometrist first, before turning to recording full-time, when he built this gorgeous studio-- designed by david henken, a protege of frank lloyd wright-- in 1959. attracted by the van gelder "sound,"azz greats kept crossing the hudson. the studio even served as a
3:50 pm
setting for famous albers: the staircase. vent. the deck railing outside. >> march 6, 1963. >> brown: so the coltrane session, 2-4, 1-4. maureen sickler workedasor 30 years van gelder's assistant sound engineer. she showed me the appot book he kept to track his busy recording schedule, including that day in 1963. did he say where his love of jazz came from? >> what he liked most about it was the improvisatory part. he liked that they were creating on the fly. he heard records when he was a kid and teenager made by the big ancompanies and he said, io better than that. it should sound better. ter,rown: all these years only pianist mccoy tyner of the original group is still alive, and still performing, that very night at manhattan's blue note club, where he recalled the magic of those days.
3:51 pm
>> it was unbelievable. i can't even describe how was. he used to practice a lot. you know, he d work and it made him stronger. i learned a lot working with john. >> brown: john coltrane went on to make his groundbreaking album, "a love supreme," in 1965, and from there ventured further into an ever-freer realm of jazz that opened up new possibilities for music. he died in 1967 of liver cancer at just 40 years old, but his influence continues to be felt, including on son, ravi, who was not quite two when his father died. >> it's kind of mind blowing to think of how much e was able to create in ten years. it's hard to know why john coltrane's music hits, why it hits us deeply. it's hard to always recognize why the music as effective and as powerful as it is.
3:52 pm
but somehow it translates. message translates and t power of his conviction really comes through. ♪ ♪ >> brown: for the pbnewshour, i'm jeffery brown at the van gelder studio in englewood cliffs, new jersey >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now: turning to the universe, when a galaxy gets pulled into a black hole, it can create intense beam of high-energy radiation, called a blazar. this week, a team of physicists who studied this phenomenon announced a discovery that could help trace the foundations of the universe you can read all about it on our website, www.pbs.org/newshour. and tune in later tonight to get more of your politics fix on "washiweek," with robert
3:53 pm
costa. and tomorrow on pbs newshour weekend: how living shorelines could combatising sea levels. >> sreenivasan: are you surprised at how fast it's taken? >> shock shocked. we just had to protect the shoreline a little bit, to give a chance for these grasses to gain a foothold. this isn'tust grass and some reefs-- this thing is teeming with life. >> sreenivasan: the bags of oyster shells eate a whole new habitat for marine life. whind of things do you see here? >> oh my gosh-- every kind of crab you can imagine. we've got hermit crabs, stone crabs, blue crabs, fiddler crabs, marsh crabs. i sound like that guy from "forrest gump" with the shrimp, but it's me with the crabs! >> woodruff: that is tomorrow night on pbs newshour weekend.
3:54 pm
and finally, an editor's note: in our report last night about streaming, we pointed out that police are sometimes called to a streamer's home after a hoax call. in some cases, swat teams arrive in response. that does . but we mistakenly identified a man killed by police in one such case as a st. he was not. and we regret the error. we will be back, right here, on monday, as president trump s with russian president putin. that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. have a great weekend. thank you, and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> kevin. kevin! >> kevin? >> advice for life. life well-planned. learn more at raymondjames.com. >> babbel. a language app that teaches real-life conversations in a new language, like spanish, french, german, italian, and m
3:55 pm
babbel's ten to 15 minute lessons are available as an app, or online. more information on babbel.com. >> consumer cellular. >> leidos. >> supporting social entrepreneursnd their solutions to the world's most pressing problems-- skollfoundation.org. le the william and flora h foundation. for more than 50 years, advancing ideas and supporting stitutions to promote a better world. at www.hewlett.org. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and friends of the newshour. >> this program was made
3:56 pm
4:00 pm
elyse: toniest on history detectiv: mysters from america's beginnings. this is about the sale of another human being. it really makes .ur blood run cold is this the music for ?he star-spangled banner" [ playing "the star-spangled banner" ] gwendolyn: x marks the spot. amazing. elvis costinlo: ♪ wat' the detectives ♪ i get so aneay when the trops start ♪ ♪ but he can't be wounded 'cause he's got no heart ♪ ♪ watchin' the dectives ♪ it's just like watchin' the dettives ♪ funding for tonight's presentation of history detectives was provided by the corporation for public broadcasting
250 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
KQED (PBS) Television Archive Television Archive News Search Service The Chin Grimes TV News ArchiveUploaded by TV Archive on