captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight: an all caps message to iran-- president trump exchanges threats of war with iranian president hassan rouhani. then, newly released court documents shed light on f.b.i. surveillance of a former trump l campaign aid and add fueto the political debate over the russia investigation. and fetal alcohol disorder is more common than previously thought-- we explore recent research and how it affects children in the u.s. >> the results of the study did not surprise me, unfortunately because i do think that there are a lot of children who are undiagnosed. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."

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>> this program was made possible by the corporation forb publadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: iran is insisting tonight it won't back down after trading sharply worded warnings withresident trump. late today, foreign minister rdjavad zarif tweeted the "color us unimpressed" after mr. trump rned of dire consequences for threatening the u.s. the president, in turn, was answering an earlierng by iran's president. we'll have a full report after the news summary. in another threatening gesture

here at home, the white hous says it's "exploring" the idea of revoking the security clearances for six national security critics. they are: former c.i.a. directors john brennan and michael hayd, former national security adviser susan rice, former director national intelligence james clapper, former f.b.i. director james comey and former deputy f.b.i. director andrew mccabe. press secretary sarah sanders charged today they have usednc their clea for political and financial gain. >> making baseless accusations of improper conduct with russia or being influenced by russia against the president is extremely inappropriate. and the fact that people withle these securityances are making these baseless charges provides inappropriate legitimacy to accutions with zero evidence. f a spokespers andrew mccabe said he lost his security clearance when he was fired in march. there's been another surgeuen migrant rein the mediterranean sea. on sunday, spanish crews picked

up 447 people making the dangerous crossing from northern africa. they rescued 329 on saturday. ple united nations estimates more than 18,000 phave journeyed to spain so far this year-- more than landed in italy. in toronto, police are investigating a shooting attack sunday night that killed two people, including a ten-year-old girl. 13 others were wounded, as the gunman fired into staurants and cafes along a busy street. aur,orities say he died late in a shootout with police. mayor john tory condemned the killings. >> i'm of course i'm angry that someone would carry such an attack, which really amounts to an attack on our city itself. there are far too many people carrying guns in our city and our region which should not have them.

>> woodruff: late today police identified the killer as a 29- year-old man from toronto. stpan recorded its hig temperature ever today: 106 degrees. it came during a heat wave that's gripped much of the country for nearly two weeks. people looked for any could to beat the heat today. the stifling temperatures have claimed more thanpa0 lives in jan-- and ten more in south verea. a european heat nd gale- force winds triggered a emergency for athens, greece, today. thick smoke gathered above the ancient ruins of theenon, as fires burned west and eat of the city. ed least one person was ki back in this country, a california fire bued closer to yosemite national park. the "ferguson fire" has scorched now more than 33,000 acres of land south and west of yosemitel s than two weeks. nearly 3,000 firefighters are battling the blaze, but the flames have foed summer campers to evacuate parts of the park. the same heat that's feeding

wildfires is scorcng the southwestern u.s. southern arizona cld hit 119 degrees in the next few days. heat warnings extends from west texas all the way to southern california. in missouri, today workers raised the amphibious "duck boat" that sank during a thunderstorm last week, killing 17 people. divers located the boat 80 feet below the surface of "table rock lake." the team used a crane on a barge to pull it out. coast guard officials say fede will now take over.ors >> one of the goals-- objectives of the investigation is to thaluate if the operational guidance for ridducks and for this particular operation lls followed. and again, they e piecing together those witness statements and the condition ofd the boatll of that information you have mentioned in an effort to do that. >> woodruff: no one on board was unaring a life preserver. that's not requirer missouri state law. tthe u.s. senate voted laay

to confirm robert wilkie as secretary of verans' affairs. wilkie previously served as the department's acting secretary the presidt fired his predecessor, andrew shulkin, in march. on wall street, a mixed monday. the dow jones industrial average lost 13 pointso close at 25,044. the nasdaq rose 21 points, and the s & p 500 added five. and copenhagen, denmark is getting a taste of christmas in july. more than 150 santa clauses from around the world are in the city. they're attending the 61st c "world sanus congress", that runs for three days. the lookalikes are braving a heat wave in heavy suits and full beards. still to come on the "newshour," what's behind the president's tweet lashing out at iran.al s new right-wing government aims to stop the tide of migrants. a disorder affecting children whose mothers drink while pregnant. and much more.

>> woodruff: the united states and iran ramped up the tough rhetoric towards one another, but where is it all heading? newshour foreign affairs correspondent nick scifirin has the story. >> schifrin: for months, the administrationas targeted iran with a campaign of pressure, fromulling out of the iran deal... >> i am announcing today that the united states willithdraw from the iran nuclear deal. >> schifrin: to re-imposing sanctions to try and cripple iran's finances. >> iran will be forced to make a choice: either fight to keep its economy off life support at home, or keep squandering precious wealth on fights abroad. >> schifrin: but last night president trump took the campaign one step further andre ened war. he tweeted in all caps, "never, ever threaten the united states again, or you will suffer consequences the les of which

few throughout history have ever suffered before." w th a response to iranian president hasan rouhani threatening the u.s., in an address to iranian diplomats. >> ( translated ): we do not want to go into a war with them. but they must understand well that war with iran is mother of all wars. they also have to understand it very well, that peace with iran is mother of all peace. >> schifrin: white house spokeswoman sarah sanders called the president's tweet part of a consistent administrion message. s the president has been, i think, pretty stroce day one in his language toward iran. >> schifrin: that lauage has included demands for extensive, fundamental shifts in iranian behavior. n e u.s. wants iran to permanently abandos nuclear program, end its missile program, and end support of proxy groups such as hezbollah. and the u.s. castigates iran's re.gious leaders as corrupt >> judging by their vast wealth, they seem more concerned wreh riches thagion. these hypocritical holy men have vised all kinds of crook

schemes to become some of the wealthiest men on earth while their people suffer. >> schifrin: yesterday, secretary of state mike pompeo arrived to a clapping crowd at the ronald reagan presidtial foundation. he said the u.s. "supports" anti-government protestors who have called r the overthrow of the iranian regime-- just asse nior u.s. officials have, before they joined the administration. >> the proud iranian people are not staying silent about their government's many abuses. and the united states under president trump will not stayit silentr. ( applause ) when the united states sees the shoots of liberty pushing up through rocky soil we pledge our solidarity. >> more than at any time, since, say, the 1980s, the regime is deeply worried about internal politics, about its capacity to survive.ch >>rin: marc gerecht is a former c.i.a. officer and now a senior fellow at the foundation r defense of democracies. he says the pressure campaign is working.an cos that invested in iran,

such as european aircraft frnufacturer airbus,h oil company total anch automaker puegeot have all pulled out. since late lant year, the n rial has lost half its value. and this year iranians have demonstrated against corruption and ecomic policies and demanded regime reform. >> its ailles heel is the internal politics. that you have both weakns at the top, internal divisions at the top, and it's obvious that substantial number of people down below have had it with many aspects of the islamic republic. >> schifrin: but iranian protests are common, and there's no obvious protest leader. so the regime will survive, argues former state department official and brookings senior fellow suzannealoney. >> we know the iranian people have real grievances with the policies their government imposes on them. what we don't yet see is the collapse of the capabilities of the current system. the capability to repress,

capabilities to muddle throughd tigate economic crises. the capabilities to skillfully manage the diplomatic environment they're in. >> schifrin: and that means iran is expected to respond to u.s. isessure. it's threatened topt oil shipments, and use its proxies. and with both sides' rhetoric ramping up, that could increase the chances of conflict, and could reduce the cannces iran s its behavior. bu they are pushing as quickly as possible and ly asy possible to get to a position of a change in iranian position, and i think tho is unlikelyy off in the short term. iran has been a 40-year problem for a reason. it's intractable, it's difficult, and fundamentally, an application of maximum pressure isn't going to bng about a short-term change. >> schifrin: today president trump said he had no concerns about increasing tension with iran, and iran called his remarks psychological warfare. so, in the short-term, the twitter diplomacy, and the sabre-rattling from both sides,

are expected to continue. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin. >> woodruff: the release of previously-classified surveillce applications-- or fisa warrants-- by the justice department over the weekend set off a new round of political fighting over the f.b.i.'s monitoring of foer trump campaign foreign policy advisor carter page. in a series of tweets, president trump said the release confirms that the justice department misled the courts in order to spy on his campaign. democrats and some republicans disagree with the prident's interpretation. one of mr. trump's top criticsgr in cs, ranking member of the house intelligence committee adam schiff of california, joins us now. congressman schiff, so much to ask you about, but let's start with that interpretation. the president is saying this filing by the justice department

proves what he's been saying all along, that this was politically motivated, going after cte page, that it was based on a political -- in his words, a political witch hunt. >> it's quite fitting in the trump administrationh tat donald trump would come to the defense of someone who hasn kowledged -- that is carte page -- acknowledged being a former advise tore the kremlin. the b.i. had probable ca to believe carte page might be acting as a page to a foreign power, russia. they hd an application approved by four different judges, appoted by three different republican presidents, and there was ample evidence to warrant the approval of the f.i.s.a. applications. the president is counng on people not to read them. who has timeo to reads hundreds of pages of f.i.s.a. application? so the president is repeating falsehood after falsehood. but the fact remains te

f.i.s.a. applications were appropriately put before the court and appteropr approved. >> woodruff: let me quickly play for you, congress mr. , the comments of the chair o the house oversight committee trey gowdy yesterday, on fox news.s >> my takehat carte page is more like inspector gadget than he is jason bourne orjames bond. trump never mitt him or had ah conversation wim. i'm sure he's been on the f.b.i.'s radar for a long time, well before 2016. here's what we'll nevow, here's what we'll never know, bret: we'll ner know whether or not the f.b.i. had enough without the dossier, the unvetted d.n.c.-funded dossi because they included it and everyone who reads this fisa applicion sees the amount of reliance they placed on this product funded by hillary clinton's campaign and the d.n.c. >> woodruff: congressman schiff, the two sides seem to be looking at this and coming away with completely different interpretation. how with are we ever going to get to the bottom of this?

>> well, you have to look to the inpendent experts, and th independent experts who have looked at this i think have uniformly upheld wat the f.b.i. did. i know it's easy for mr. gowdy to try to diminish carte page, but he was only one of five or donald trumrmer policy advisors during the campaign. the other george papadopoulos, they're trying to say he was just a coffee boy, even though he was involved setting up meetings with headsov state witr thp campaign, and paul manafort, the head of therump campaign, donald trump tried to diminish and they was only there for a short time. so this was part of what does, downplay those having interactions with the russian shift attention elsewhere, but the reality is there is an extraordinary and worrying and disturbing number of donald trump both high-level and lower-level campaign people from michael flynn and manafort to the president's on son to

papadopoulos and page meeting with the russians and then lar lying about it. s woodruff: congressman, several other thi ask you about, a lot breaking late today. -- theone, the preside white house press secretary sarah sanders saying the president is seriously considering revoking security clearance for five former high-ranking intelligence and f.b.i. officials. what do you make of that? >> clearly this is an effort tod punishilence the president's critic. now, this is not something you tend to see in the united states of america, not until now. this is wht you would see in authoritarian governments. i think it is really appalling, d will certainly put a chill on people both going into public service but also those who leave officend have deep cerns about the president will certainly feel if they speak out they will be punished and their future job prospects will be diminished. i think for others who may seek

to tap the talent of people who served in the intligence community, it wi also inhibit their abilitto reach out to people with erience. >> also michael hayden. it's a new enemies list is what i is, and none of us that we would see that again in our life time, but is president determined, i think, to rest resurrect an inmy's list and put his first few names on it. >> woodruff: another pie of ws is the president's threatening tweet toward ir saying, in response to what he said was a threat from iran to the united states, where do you see that relationship going? you formerly served ton house foreign affairs committee. >> well, look, i think it was a mistake for the. to essentiallygure on america's commitment to the nuclear deal. that was something that ha caused iran to tear down their

plutonium reactor, export a lot of their highly eniched uranium, essentially lengthle the breakout time for iran and to tear that up with nothing in place made a conflict with iran more likely rk city less likely -- more likely, not less likely. what kerns m b is these wor iran which is admittedla ligne actor is nothing atypical from tehran, so why now is the president provoking this confrontation? it certainly has the character a effort to distract attention from the disastrous lummit in helsinki and everything that flowed. one other thing i think we have to be alarmed by is donald trump repeated by suggested obama would provoke a conflict with iren his poll numbers were suffering, and i feel donald trump may be tryg to do that in at least a rhetorical way.

n>> woodruff: you metioned the helsinki summit with president and vladimir putin. there are a number of republicans now saying they may not like the way the president spoke around and with vladimir putin, but if his actions turn out to be tough, that, in the end, is going to be what matters the most. >> his actions have been tough, but they have been toughn our allies. they have been tough on nato, our canadian allie our british, german, french and australian e lies. they hen tough on europe but soft on russia. the sanctions were forced upon this administration. they wehre passed over obama administrationobama --over the e souse and veto-proof margins the president gets no credit for that in my review, but rather what the presidenhas done is essentially green lit russia to inrvene in the midterms. sterile message got from that message is as long a he intervenes on donald trump's side he can count on this president never having the courage or interest in callingt him out on

>> woodruff: congressman adam schiff, ranking democrat on the house select committee on intelligence, we thank you. >> thanks, judy. dr >> wf: italy has borne the brunt of europe's migration crisis. 200,000 people have nded on the nation's shores after making the perilous crossing from north africa. now a new right wing government wants to stop the human tide. it has banned nonprofit arch and rescue ships from its ports and would like to stop europea naval ships from landing refugees on its shores. but organizations are fighting back, accusing the italians of a cold blooded policy of allowing people to drown at sea. from palermo in sicily, special correspondent malcolm brabant reports. ♪ ♪ >> brabant: they dance to protest that italy's generosity and tolerance have reached

breaking point. economic migrants like lamin sawa from gambia are angry that thhegateways which allowed t to step foot in europe are being closed to others folng behind. >> ( translated ): the ministryt ofior of italy at the moment have decided that no boat is going to enter. and that is not fair. they are lives. theyeople. they are people who suffered in their country. and trying to come out because of their own human resistance. bant: italian politics student irene ivanaj has sympthy with the migrants, no least because her mother married an albanian who struggto overcome prejudice. >> everybody needs to choose emere they want to live. and not letting n, letting people die at sea is not an option. sending them back to libya to death camps and slaverot an option. ald what we need to do is to get more funds to ac help these people once they come here. >> brabant: their venom is being directed against this man, interior minister matteo

salvini. in office since march, the right wing populist is now the most powerful politician in italy, more influential tn the prime minister. salvini wants to establish migrant reception cents south of libya where applications for asylum in europe can bepr essed. >> ( translated ): the objective is that not one more single person comes here by boat. >> brabant: the crew of this british patrol ship has sampledn sas new tactics. along with another vessel, it harescued 450 migrants. salvini kept them off shore for several days and only allowed them to dock for disembarkation, once some european countries agreed to take them in. germany france and spain t promisedo accept 50 migrants each.is though approach impresses fellow party member, fabio cantarella, recentlycted as a councillor in the sicilian city of catani >> ( translated ): if we are europe, then europe must sbire the responties.

previous italian governments have not we will not let them disembark unless eope shares the burden. >> brabant: these harrowing images are bng used by olvini's opponents to exemplify the consequencesf a fortress italy policy. a spanish te accused libyan toastguards of abandoning a woman and child rown after intercepting a migrant boat. another woman was pulled alive from the flotsam. politics profess flaviolo vassals disturbed by italy's right turn. he sees echoes of the country's second world war fascist dictator benito mussolin >> ( translated ): the european commission reminded salvini that people can't be returned toli a because it's not a safe country. mussolini used to say "i don'tlv care" and i is doing the same. basically he's disregarding international law which governs rescues at sea, as well as the geneva convention and european convention on human rights.

>> ( translatedar ): this coon to mussolini is shameful. salvini doesn't do harm to others. salvini is saying something that is very honest and full of common sense. ying we cannot welcome everyone. >> brabant: according to the u.n.'s international organition for migration, nearly 2,400 people drowned trying to cross the hediterranean in 2017. so far this yearigure is 1,500. that means virtually two out of every 100 people who leave north africa by boat die. those figures reinforciothe determinof organizations running ships like the "aquarius," to ctinue search d rescue missions. but in this hostile atmosphere, they face an uncertain future. for two years this harbor eastern sicily was the home base for the aquarius. since italy closed its ports to such vessels, the "aquarius" has been forced to sail 600 miles away to marseille in france tode

re-supply and ake repairs. that's a long way from the danger zone.do thors without borders spokesperson on board sent us a statement complaining about the criminalisation and obstruction of organizations involved in search and rescue. m in just over ath, more than 600 people have lost their lives attempting to cross the mediterranean. the spokesperson said there has been a cold blooded decision to leave them all to drown.sa claudia lo heads the italian chapter of doctors without borders.sh s been at town hall meetings trying to urge people to rejectp the governmenticies. lodesani rejects allegations that ships like the "aquarius" are providing a taxi service for migrants.r >> i worked year in southern sudan. in one year, i see a lot of people dead because there is a civil war, because there i malaria, because of climate change and climatic problems so the people havmalnutrition. so of course the people want to leave.

it's impossible to stop the people. >> brabant: "look at the corpses," says roberto ammatuna, a doctor and mayor of pozzallot a sicilian pwn that has welcomed migrants. e lping to launch a photographic exhibition on thontline of europe's all consuming crisis. in 2016 and 17, italy took in 175,000. this year the number has slowed down to 18,000. the mayor opposes returning tm to libya.sl >> ( tred ): i think that in italy at the moment there is not a good political climate. there is a wave of intolerce towards minorities and especially towards immigrants, which in my opinion is worrying. we need to temper the minds. we can not say that immigrants are all delinquents and murderers.eg >> i bhe pope with the god. democracy! we want to go. we want our freedom. we want to go. >> brabant: nigerian giftar rihad a sympathetic audience among demonstrators

protesting outside europe's biggest refugee camp at mineo in the hot, harsh countryside ofci eastern . like many others, she has been ore for two years. inmates complain overcrowding, poor food, violence, a lack of funds and an inabity to obtain documentation that would enabl o them to workmove on. >> ( translated ): oh, i would beg my fellow nigerians not to be confused or to cross that se to c italy. if they come to italy, they are slaves, nobody is free. >> brabant: a surge in suppo for the right wing and their arlicies can be found at this bargain basementt, where impoverished sicilians feel they are in competition with immigrants. alessandro lo cascio sells four bunches of herbs for just over a dollar. lo cascio hopes salvini, italy's new interior minister can improve his personal finances. >> ( translated ): i hope so. in the end i hope so.

but if he takes away the proble of immigra has already done a great favor to italy. already. just that. 18-million italians are going hungry. do we have to allow immigrants in? no. >> brabant: "open the ports, open your hearts, to be better people," sings this demonstrator. at the moment, that message is largely falling on deaf ears, not only in italy, but rightop across e for the pbs newshour, i'mol malcbrabant in sicily. >> woodruff: it's a disorder that has flown under the radar for decades, sometimes referred to as the "invible disability". we're talking about fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, which can happen if a mother dris during pregnancy. amna nawaz reports from

minnesota on the proem and recent research that suggests it may be far more common than previously thought. here's the first of her two stories on the subject. >> "that's my feet!" >> nawaz: moses looks and sounds like your average, healthy five- year-old... but his dad, brandon, noticed keses didn't always act li one. he has trouble with loud noises. he sometimes gets very upset, much more easily and intensely than other children. they're at the university of minnesota masonic children'sit al to try and find out why. w >>here should i listen with my stethoscope? >> nawaz: one possibility: moses might have fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, or f.a.s.d. caused by prenatal alcohol moses was adopted, and brandon believes his birth mother drank whegnant. dr. judith eckerle specializes n medicine, and sees a lot of families struggling with f.a.s.d.ki >> we se on the f.a.s.d.

spectrum who have i.q.s above e normal range actually. some who are considered very smart, but then they're missing certain other areas he abstract reasoning, or being able to control impulses. th we have other kids on t spectrum who have frank intellectual disility, used to be called mental retardation, and those kids really do struggle with kind of the basic learning and may need pport lifelong because just cognitively they're not le to process in the same way. >> nawaz: doctors in minneapolis see arou 300 kids in the f.a.s.d. clinic, but they say that's just the tip of the iceberg. they estimate across minnesota prenatal alcohol exposure affects more than 7,000 newborns each year. nationally, a recent study shows the numbers are much higher than previously thought, cutting across racial, ethnic and socio- economic lines. conservative estimates, published in the "journal of the american medical associati," show anywhere from 1.1-5% of the u.s. population is affected,

meaning it could be more common even than autism. >> the results of the study did not surprise me, unfortunately, because i do think that there are a lot of children who are undiagnosed. >> nawaz: doctor jeffrey wozniak says most children with f.a.s.de don'diagnosed, either because people don't know to look for it, or don't know what they're looking for.th >> the one get referred to our diagnostic clinics are the ones who are having the most problems and are the ones who happened to have been seen by a social worker or a nurse or a pedirician who knows somethi about f.a.s.d. >> nawaz: complicating diagnoses, only the most severe cases have any outward physicaly toms like smaller eyes, flattening between the nose and mouth and a thinner upper lip. for most kids with f.a.s.d., the differences are on the inside. >> the brain is smaller in the child with f.a.s.d. >> nawaz: wozniak's pioneering work with m.r.i.s offers an unprecedented look at the brain

damage caused by prena alcohol exposure. >> you can clearly see this abnormality in the back part of the brain. this is the part of the brain involved in all sorts of functions, including attention and perception and integraon of information, so this is a child we know is going to have a lot of processing difficulties. >> nawaz: doctors say f.a.s.d. a can loot like disorders like a.d.h.d. some symptoms, like hyperactivity, short attention spans and impulse control, can overlap. but the causes can be different. pediatrician eckerle takes a page from a favoriteren's book to explain. >> amelia bedelia was very concrete.co shd understand if you said go draw the blinds amelia.ul she sit down and draw a picture of blinds instead of closing them because she didn't know there were multiple. meanin and that is kind of an illustration i use sometimes for lymilies. they don't necessa understand abstract reasoning or abstract concepts as much. >>rawaz: this is a meeting teenagers with f.a.s.d.

slime making is one way to draw them in, but it'toalso a chance eet with adult mentors, talk about the future and work out how to navigate it. >> do you have any finalapers or studying? >> studying fotests. >> maybe you could do that? >> nawaz: it's also a chance for kids with f.a.s.d. to hang out together and feel understood, in a world where they often are not. ruth richardson is the director otof programs for the minn organization on fetal alcohol syndrome, the sponsor of this meeting. >> this can also be a very tolating experience for families, because ir family members don't understand f.a.s.d. or their overall community doesn't understand the disability, we've seen families who are afra to take their kids to church because they don't want to deal with the shame or the stigma when people don't understand the disability. >> nawaz: dave riege adopted ben when he was five-years-old. >> everybody who is here has

children with the same probls. i mean, it's not like anybody looks at him and goes, jeez authat's kind of strange b everybody is in the same boat,s so it workout good.az >>lisa joy says the group is good for her son, andrew, and for her as well. >> parents can come together and get to know and connect to find out wh their kids in a similar struggles and whathey are doing to overcome them. just that support is really important. >> nawaz: even though there is no known cure for f.a.s.d., experts say rly intervention can help to mitigate the symptoms. moses' dad brandon says hel make sure his son's future will be just as bright. >> we love all of our kids the same, it doesn't change anything. if that's the official diagnosis, that's something we'll work on, to channel him to the right people. and we'll go from there. but he still lights up the room, he's still the same great kiddo that we see every day. >> nawaz: for adoptive parents,

an f.a.s.d. agnosis, difficult though it may be, doesn't carry with it the weight of any guilt. for birth mothers, like carol peterson, the process is different. peterson struggled with alcohol for years and was drinking before she knew she was pregnant. though she quit cold turkey three months into her pregnancyt the damaher daughter, kylene, was done. >> i would take her to these early childhood places. it seemed ke the ones that were the same age were more advanced than her. so i started to notice she was a little bit, like, delayed i t thought. wasn't sure. >> nawaz: what would you worry out in moments like that >> i would wonder did myis drinking do o her. .d nawaz: kylene, now 27, was diagnosed with f.aat six- years-old. carol opened up to us about thee guilt she carrfor years, and her hope for her daughter's future. more of their story, tomorrow night. for the pbnewshour, i'm amna nawaz, in northern minnesota.

>> woodruff: as we have reported, president trump's meeting with putin sparked a storm of contrersy in washington. new poll numbers now give us a sense of reaction across the country. a perfect time for politics monday with amy walter of the "cook political report" and susan page of "usa today." hello to both of you. it's "politics monday." at least it's been a storm of criticism and controversy, but the president doubles down. we have new tolls. let's show the audience numbers. among democrats the approval rating for the president is on among 9%. among independents, 36 approval of the president and how he handled the russian meeting. among the republicans, sky high,

88%. amy, what does this tell us about the voters right now? >> yeah, and this is his overall job aprarovaling, so what it tell us is kind of what we've seen pretty much for t entirety of this presidency. the ovprall apval rating of this president doesn't move that much. it blips up anre down hend there, but especially in 2018, it's prey stady between 39 and 43%. so big things happen, not big things happen, the numbers sort of stay the say. but that number you pointed out that tpublicans united behind the president, this thing people so spend so much time look at. when are theups going to abandon this president? they aren't. cis question has been asked since he wasandidate trump, since the 2016 elections and afterwards and more so when the media focus is on things that theyeel like the media is ganging up on the president. they spend too much time

criticizing him. but the independent number is important, 36% approval rating among indepeents is w and more important, among their dotes in congress democrats ha a 20-point lead. that's the number to pay attention to besides just the theic support f presiden >> woodruff: how do you look at this, snoons. >> it's the picture of the electorate. there is nothing dorump can do that will get him support among democrats -- 9% rating? thee is virtually nothing can do to cost him support of the republicans. what that did does is gives him an incredible political mulls when it comes to dealing with republicans in congress. one reason republicans in congress are unwilling to challenge him even if they disagree is they look at the number and say if i challenge him, i'll lose the primary. >> it's a nice segue. over the weekend, hope to moderate a senate debate in

virginia between the incumbent temocrat tim cane, the challenger coreyrt who by the way ran the trump campaign in virginia for a while in 2016n but it'steresting to see how much donald trump, president trump's name came up. i'll play a little bit from the debate first with corey stewart. >> he voted against all these things, not just because he's a left-wing radical liberal but because he opposes everything thatresident trump does, he's and a automatic no, whether it's good for virginia orad for virginia, he is a president trump acolyte, and he takes the president trump lin in calling for the termination of the investigation. that would be a disaster. and if there's anything that demonstrates the differencetw n us, it's corey stewart standing up here and saying than prestrump is standing up to the russians. president trump is caving to the russians. >> so, amy, it wasn't only abou president trump but, as you

could tell, that was a theme we kept hearing over and over again. >> and it's a theme you're going to hear invery single race in the country. the president just looms large over everything. whether or not candidates mentioned him or not, he is the issue in this election, more than anything else, how you feel about this president, and it's going to look different in different places. in virginia, a state hillary clinton carried, and that ralph northam the bernatorial candidate carried by nine points, it's not good to be attached to the president. in, i don't know, north dakota or west virginia, somhe red states the democrats are running in, it's better to be aligned with the pr, esided you will probably see the president, as he's doing now, going out andngampaigor a lot of these red state democrats. i doubt he's going to come in to virginia. >> woodruff: so is it a state-by-state thing, snoons. >> well, it is, and we can't stop talking about donald trump every week, candidates sho not expect to not be able to

talk about donald trump, o. i think there's a case in which it might not cut red and blue w and thld be in cases that get affected in some way escially with damage fro donald trump policy. so if you go to a red state wit a soybean farmers getting hurt by tariffs, that might be a case for being an acolyte of donald trump, doesn'lp you the way it would be in a republican area. >> that's right,whnd that's e the democrats are going to run as i'm not st relexively against the president, i'll stand with him when he's doing good for my state, but when his policies are bad for my stte,ly check in balance does it translate in who shows up to vote. democrats continue to have an enthusiasm advantage. they say they are more likely to turn out and vote and we've seen its n the special electi well. it's only just july. is it still july? >> it is. still a way to go. but soybeans did come up,

join farmers and how they're hurt btheesident and his policies came up in this debate. but you're bringing up the red states, a state you know well, kansas, attractive to liberal democrats, bernie sanders joined by alsanderrer cortez who was the new yornew york city congrel nominee, she won the primary. they brought a pretty progressivmessage to a red state. what does that tell us? and all the while, mainstream democrats are raising flags saying, wait a minute, this is not a messe we can win with. >> so they got 4,000 people and, for two very liberal democrats in wichita, kansas, my hometown, that is a bigu trnout. and, you know you look at that, that's a red state, that'sa red congressional district, the fourth congressionaltrict, one mike pompeo won by 32

percentage points, newt contest. but in the special election to replace mike pompeo, the republicanon only by 6 points. with the right type of candidate, it's possible the democrats could contest that congressional district but onlyt ey get some republicans to vote with them. so if you in with the most liberal agenda, that i a democrat who is not likely to prevail in that district. >> woodruff: mainstream democrats worried about this? >>n some case. let's see who won the primaries. they campaigned for people who haven't gotten through a primary yet. i think this will matter in 2019 and 2020 more than 2018. democrats are coalescing behind any candidate ty have wheer more liberal or conservative. when it comes down to cho who democrats want to be as their standard bearer for t presidenir nominee, this is where the fault lines between the more progressive, the more moderate are going to be reall

important. but the democrats do take that congress, it's because they winn districts that either narrowly went for or against trump, not in places that, you know, are overwhelmingly dedrcratic. >> wf: worrying too early, maybe. >> well, i think it's going to be -- it will be a facr in 2020 for sure. >> woodruff: amy walter, susan page, "politics monday," thank you. >> you're wecome. >> woodruff: and now, seei b life in "brosh strokes"-- and second acts. jeffrey brown shares the story of one wan who has embraced both. >> brown: among many other things, nell painter is a proud resident of the ironbound neighborhood of newark, new jersey, which, on the day we visited, was celebrating its diverse heritage in the annual portugal day festival. >> the ironbound is the old

and the people in here are either portuguesor portuguese- americans or pretending to be portuguese-americans. >> brown: a block away, in an historic building that once used a toy factory, painter now lives and works as an artist, one who is both new-- as in, she only recently started this career, and, by her own telling, old-- as in her age. there's an anecdote early on with a young 18-year-old looking at you the first day and saying, >> "how old are you?" okay.: >> brod your reaction was? >> brown: the story is told in a new book titled "old in art school: a memoir of starting over." how nell irvin painter, a wnngtime princeton university professor best kor her work in 19th and 20th century southern history became, at age o, nell painter, a painte working in a variety of forms and media cluding digital art. part of it, she told mtl- as she shuted between her fourth floor apartmenand basement art

studio-- was moving away from the confines of histical research. >> what i really liked was stepping away fromhe tyranny of the archive and being able to move into fiction. visual fiction. so, now when i think about art, i could make things up. >> brown: and you found that personally freeing >> absolutely. visual art is very freeing because it answers only to the eye. >> brown: painter, who's now 75, had the support to make a change. her husband, glenn shafer, is a noted mathematician and professor at rutgers. her mother, dona, offered her own example: after retiring from public school teaching at 65, she became a writer, publishing several books about aging. and painter's father, frank, wa b technician and instructor at the university of california.

ener the academic, painter all in: enrolling first as an undergraduate at mason grossts school of the t rutgers university, and then in a masters program at t prestigious rhode island school of design. i also realized that if wantedo be a serious artist-- and i thought, you know, i was a serious historian, be a serious artist. >> brown: her internal struggle comes out in this passage from the book: >> as a painter, i feared i could never measure up to self as a historian because'd never have enough time to learn to manipulate iges as well as i had learned to answer the questions on my mind through research and writing. is this a reason to stay in a place where you do what you do better than what you can do anew? does this mean i could never change fields? well, no.

there was no reason on earth why nell painter, painter, had torv equal nell painter, historian and author. i didn't always know that. >> brown: and then there was the bigger issue: her age. >> even though people didn't say in so many words "we are training you to be a hot, young artist," they were training us to be hot, young artists. so with my 20th century eyes i was not going to be a hot artist. and then there was no way i can be ybeng. >> brownuse that becomes the fining factor. >> this was a new definition. i think the's room in our culture for interesting people who are blac and for interesting people who are female and interestingeople who are black and female. there's hardly any room to b

interesting if you're old. >> brown: early on you have a professor who says you'll never, you'll never really be an artist. and that trope runs through the >> and finally you just say, oh hell. >> brown: you don't worry abou it. no. i am the artist that i am. and when i'm making art, it's like when the machine gets going, it just goes. it makes its own art. and so, who am i now to second- guess it? just let it make its own art. >> brown: in the midst of all this, painter was flying cross country to help care for herth parents-- ould die during the writing of this book. and painter publishelatest history book, with the provocative title, "the history of white people." it became a surprise bestseller. even as she herself was taking d a new identity. in fact, "histors at times

creep into her art work as well, as in a series titled is thamerica i know." >> brown: if we put the art aside for a moment it goes to what we do after we've done that thing in our livwe, right, that evoted our life to. can we change our lives? >> well i would say yes-- no. ( laughter ) >> brown: that not yes and no? that's yes-no. >> that's yes-no. when i got ready to go to art school, i saidokay, i've got everything arranged now. my parents are stabilized-- ha ha ha. my book will come out and it'll get a review but that won't change life-- ha ha ha. and i will be doing something different. i'll be following another of the pleasures of my life. i'm a lucky person that i can pursue another love. well, it turns out that it all comes with you. it all comes with you. >> brown: there's no starting

over. >> there's a starting over, but there's no getting, there's no losing what was with you. as a friend said, you don't lay your other lives down, you just pack them on.wn >> bfor the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in theig ironbound orhood in newark, new jersey. >> woodruff: finally tonight, writer tese mailhot shares her o humble opiniwhy it's time to retire the notion of role models. >> i thought my ok reached critical mass when i saw emma watson post a selfie with it. i panicked. i wasn't ready for that kind of attention. the book became a "new york times" bestseller shortly after. this is anomalous for an indigenous women writer.

sion that contemplated i i was a good role model for indigenous people. i didn't want to be the voice ol anyone but m i didn't want to be looked up to, not yet. my book is one of survival. i narrowly survived my circumstances, and that narrow i was a single mother on welfare. i don't want people to emulate my journey or look up to how i evolved away from dysfunction gma.stic sti i reached a semblance of success people want, but it doesn't mea i shou looked up to. invented by sociologist in the '50s, the term "role model" feels and quaitd, it's a slogan for cereal boxes and self-help gurus who are selling success or reaching goals witho

compromise, things we know by now don't ext, noturely. up close, the guru cheats on his wife or worse. the athlete will bys appoint, se will theders, the actors and singers. when they fail us, we're eiher judge and jury or all too forgiving. ve seen women who aspire to be good role models criticized for what they wear, who they marrymu and hoh money they can make because they become too capitalistke and not feminist enough. a woman wrote that my book was a manifesto for native america girls. indigenous people are not a monolith and my text is seen as lauded or representative. we dod n't feeexamples for what we aspire to be. we don't need to be unnone dad with -- inundated with possibilities. we should haveesatural objecthat reach beyond comparison. i question the idea of imitation

and its necessity. when i'm the first to do what i've done and not movindels to emulate gave me room to be. >> woodruff: writer terese marie myatt. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us on-line and again here morrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> babbel. a language app that teaches real-life conversations in a new lachuage, like spanish, fren german, italian, and more. sbbel's 10-15 minute less are available as an app, or online. more information on babbelom. >> consumer cellular. >> financial services firm raymonjames.th >> and balfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology,

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