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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evenin i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, a divided zimbabwe.em presidenrson mnangagwa declares victory as the opposition challenges the results of the highly-contested election. then, hundreds of immigrant families remain separated after crossing the border-- the latest in efforts to reunite chdren with their parents. it's friday david brooks and ezra klein are here we analyze the ek's news. plus, exploring lives of today'a eighth graders new movie by comedian bo burnham digs into the awkward and online-obsessed teenage experience. >> attention is kind of currency nowadays. people want to feel seen and
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>> woodruff: u.s. employers have slowed their pace of hiring new workers, but the overall economy remains strong. that's the takeaway from today's jobs report for july. the labor department employers added 157,000 jobs last month-- n as many as expected. the overall unemployment rate still dipped, from 4% to 3.9%. but average hourly pay gained only 2.7% from a year earlier-- not enough to keep pace with inflation. china has fired off a new warning to washington, in a budding trade war. ijing announced today says it's ready to impose levies on another $60 billion of imported u.s. goods. that's inithe trump adration goes ahead with 25% riffs on chinese goods worth $200 billion. at white house, economic adviser larry kudlow said what happens
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next is up to china. >> do not blame president trump, blame the chinese for theirtr sigence. we didn't start this. they're the ones who are not playing by the rules. they're the ones who were stealing technology and intellectual property. they're the ones who have unfair trading barriers. this is something president trump inheriteddr. >> wf: the two nations already exchanged one round of tariffs. china says its next targets wile include u.s. c honey and industrial chemicals. senate democrats have decided to minority leader chuck schumer and dianne feinstein california will sit down with kavanaugh later this month. it comes amid redispute with blicans, over the release of documents relating to kavanugh's time in the george w. bush white house so far only one democrat, joe manchin of west virginia, has met with kavanaugh.
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in afghanistan, at least 39 people were killed today in woicide attacks on a shiite mosque, filled withippers. it happened in the eastern provincial capital of gardez. more than 80 people were wounded. police say two male attackers dressed as women slippe the mosque during friday prayers. they fired guns and then, blew themselves up. the capital of bangladesh was largely shut down for a fifth day, with buses staying off the roads because of student prests. it started sunday, when two college students were hit andee killed by ng buses in dhaka, a city of ten million. that brought out thousands of students, demanding safer streets. >> the elected representatives of the country manage our tax money. there is no benefit from elections if the representatives are ignorant about our life secuty and are reluctant to provide us due services. we will continue the movement if our demands are not met immediately. 2,00oodruff: at least 1
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people die in road accidents in anngladesh every year, often due to reckless drivinlax enforcement. one of the highest-ranking buddhist monks in china is now facing accusations of sexual misconduct. it's the latest sign of a growing "me-too" movement in chinese society. two fellow monks say the accused abbot harassed buddhis and pressured them for sex.ca the claims haved a public outcry since they appeared online this week. back in this country, las vegas police closed their investigation into last october's mass shooting without determining a motive. the gunman, stephen paddoc, killed 58 and wounded hundreds before taking his own life. paddock fired a hail of bullets into an outdoor concert crowd from the2nd floor of the mandalay bay casino. the sheriff said today there's no solid evidence to explain why he did it.
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>> stephen paddock was an unremarkable man whose mog ment lead to october 1 didn't raise any suspicion. an interview with his doctor indicated signs of a troubled mindut no troubling behavior that would trigger a call to law enforcement. without a manifesto or even a note to answer questions, theta ty of the information that has been gathered leaves us to only make an educated guess ass to the motiv of stephen paddock. >> woodruff: the final report did show that paddock hagrown unstable and distant, and suffered major gamblin in the last two years before the shootings. a tax preparer for paul manafort testified today that she filed tax returns she thought contained false information. knndy laporta, who had been granted immunity, ledged she might have committed a crime. manafort is accused of bank fraud and tax evasi in the years before he managed the trump campaign. federal prosecutors say they may wrap up their case next week.e
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tennesters have chosen the two major party nominees for a key u.s. senate racin november. republican congresswoman marsha blackburn and former democratic governor phil bredesen won thursday's primaries. blackburn campaigned as an ally of president trump. bredesen said he'll chart an independent course, in a state that went heavily for mr. trump in 2016. and on wall stre, stocks ended the week on a high note. the dow jones industrial average gained 136 points to close at 25,462. the nasdaq rosepo nints, and the s&p 500 added 13. still to come onhe newshour, the way after the historic presidential election in zimbabwe. reuniting separated migrant families who is responsible the government or a.c.l.u.
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>> woodruff: in zimbabwe today, the man who was declared the winner of the presidential election lasnight, emmerson angagwa, urged zimbabweans to unite. he said th the declared the loser, nelson chamisa, had a crucial role to play in the country's present and future. six peoplesiere kill. opon people nelson chamisa said he did not accept the outcome and said he however, nelson chamisa said he did not accept the outcome of the election and would explore all legal means to allenge it. we have this report from john ray of independent television news.te >> repor meet the new boss same as the old boss. the winner of a disputed election wl need more than words to convince the nation's he's changed. >> now that the people have spoken, i hear your call.
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i pledge to be a listening president, a fair president a responsible and an ienlusive prest. >> reporter: he said his defeated opponent uculd have a crl role to play in the natios future. >> get out! >> reporter: though, earlie l this new zimked very much like the old-- ugly. without warning orxplanationu are yohere to arrest us? police raided a city center hotel in harare while we waited to meet mr. chamsa. so they're banging on their riot shields. they're telling us we must get out. "out, out, out," they keep shouting. it's not clear if they've co to arrest nelson chamisa or just to flush the journalists away. see it's a very menacing and intimidating situation. harare'se chief apparently thought he was breaking up an
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oppotion. are you here to arrest mr. chamisa?k >> rter: is a week the authorities here claimed they embraced democracy. is this the new zimbabwe? then government minister ordered them to let us back in. at last, mr. chamisa-- still claiming the election was rigged-- was allowed to speak. >> you will find that there's no jubilation, thers no celebration. if anything, today is a day of mourning. mourning ovedemocracy. it is a black day because we are seeing a repeat of what we saw in the yesteryear regime. >> reporter: it is hard to see how this dided nation will be easily reconciled. >> woodruff: alex magaisa worked as a consultant r nelson chaisa's campaign and was chief of staff to former zimbwean prime minister, morgan tsvangirai. alex magaisa, thank you very much for being here. what's your reaction to what's happened in your country?
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>> well, it's incredibly sad that events have come to this situation. we have seen people being kied. we are ao seeing an escalation of violence and the use of excessive force by the state. we would hope that the election would go peacefully as it had and that it would be concluded in peace. >> woodruff: did yr candidate, mr. chamisa, go into this process thinking this election was goingcao brried out in a fair and democratic manner? >> he understood that the system was rigged. he understood that this was institutional bias on the part of the election refere buit was important to contest, because boycotting el doesn't really work, and it was important to show up the emsy and it has been shown up. >> woodruff: in what way? you say that it ended up that this was not a fair election. in what way was it nobet? use there were international observers there who said, yes, there were some problems, but
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overall i think e consensus was they found it fair. >> well, i think that they found the election was peaceful, at least up until election day, but they have not really expounded on the freeness and fairness. what they said on tuesday is they were alating for the conclusion of the counting process, and the counting process has not gonery well. there have been delays. there has been a lot of problems in terms of transparency and fairness. g t there are many issues. the print the ballot papers, design of ballot papers and so many t issueshat demonstrated that the referee was not fair. mr. chamisa would have withdrawl from thetion, but he decided it's important to give the people of zimbabwe to choose eir next leaderand he has done incredibly well. there is no opposition leader who has ever garnered two llion votes in anelection. he has done that. we believe that he did enough to win the presidency.
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that's what the people believe. >> woodruff: what gives you th confidenc do you... how do you know that... how does he know that he had enoutes to win? >> they have information that they have been collecting duri the electoral process. they have been comparing the figures that they have on the ound and the fures that have been given by the zimbabwe electoral ommission. sothe figures are not tallying up. some of the figures are not adding up. what he's trying to do is to pursue all the legal and constitutionamechanisms that are available using peaceful means, and there is no room violence in this process. >> woodruff: do you believe that mr. mnangagwa, that his new administration, they've declared victory. are they going to allow this challenge to go forward? >> well, they don't have a choice. it has to done. of course, there are challenges with the judicial ocess. it may be that the judiciary will not give the fai hearing that we hope it would. there have been other cases in
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the past where thereave been challenge, but we hope that there will be enough evidence that at least they will be able to look at the evidence fairly and be able to conclude the matter. what imbabwe needs isa conclusion of this process that gives legitimacy to whoever governs it up until now. >> woodruff: what do you say, mr. kgaisa, to those who l at the opposition candidates who ran and say what i they did isdi ded the anti-mnangagwa vote. in order, the opposition split and that weakeed their performance in the election? >> it's an argument that has been put forward, but i think it's an argument that is nuanced. there are three electionthe council, the parliamentary, and the presidential, yet for the presidentiaelection, you can see that there were only two candidates who were running mr. mnangagwa and mr. chamisa. indeed, there are areas where
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mr. mnangagwa's party won in the parliamentary election, but mr. amisa was able to ge the popular vote, so it was a split oucket. >> woodruff: soe saying it wasn't really divided? >> not for the presidential ouelection. it have been divided for the parliamentary candidates. .hat's understandabl and that's regrettable. but for the presidential election, that issudoes not arise. >> woodruff: how at this point does mr. chamisa go about his challengeat? s he going to do? >> he has to approach the constitution. o the constitutif zimbabwe provides for a mechanism within the next seven days. he has the lauchhis petition through the constitutional court, which will then hear the matter and make o a decisi the issue. that is one mechanism that he has available to hi but as i say, the constitution guarantees a number of fundamental freedoms and rights that can b exercised in order to ensure that the rule of the people is accepted. >> woodruff: what are the consequences for zimbabwe if
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mr. mnangagwa is declared the victor and this challenge from mr. chamisa doesn't bare out, doesn't bare fruit? >> well, we would hope that he would show zimbabwe a brighter future, but we have serious challenge, because mr. mnangagwa and a lot of people are ruallenging the administration. >> wo: the mugabe administration? >> that is right. so many people, if they are on e opposition side, wonder whether there will be any difference at all. the signs that we're seeing in itthe last two daysh the military being deployed in urban and rural area, using excessive forcethis is what we used to see during the era of mr. mugabe. that's scary. >> woodruff: excuse me, but mr. mnangagwa's saying that they oke going to investigate this violence that toplace. >> he hase spoken very wll and
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he has spoken very well in the sometimes the words do not match the actions. and what is important is that what we are saying, he has to complement his words bactual actions. we hope that it will be done. >> woodruff: will this be decided purely by internal division making inside zimbabwe? are there any outside forces, whether on the continent of se?ica or anyone el do you believe they can have a good effect on the government of mr. mnangagwa to persuade them to make sure that th procession goes fairly from now on? >> absolutely. i think that zimbabwe s been a troublesome child for southernhe africa, the so african region from the past 20 years, and for a timwe actually were part of the african velopment mmunity, a regional organization. i think the international community has an important role to play to influence zimbabwe to go on a proper ansmoother path, and we hope that will
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happen. , whoodruff: alex magaisa advised the campaign of nelson chamisa. we thank you very much. >> tnk you for having me. >> woodruff: now, an update on the status of immigrant parents and children separated at the u.s. border in recent months. yesterday, the trump eadministration, and the can civil liberties union, submitted widely divergent plans to the court on how to re-unite hundreds of children and parents, many of them already deported from the united states, with their children who remain in the care and custody of u.s. immigration officials here. here today amna nawaz has been monitoring a hearing out in california. she continues her reporting about the separated families. hello, amna. want to asyou about that,
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but first, within the last hour or, so there has been a ruling on another immigration matter by a different federal judge, so bring us up to speed on that. >> that's right. this is about daca. moments ago a district judge in d.c. ruled that the trump administratito's descend aca was unlawful and he ordered that it be restored. daca is deferred action for childhood arrivals program put intolace by president obama to shield hundreds of thousands of m deportation,ro and basically president trump has always said it's illegal. he ended it back in september. the judge today called that decision arbitrary and capricious. he has given thda 2s to put it back into place and also gives them time to reply and to appeal if they cf:ose. >> woodre'll see. >> we will see. >> woodruff: so let's go back to the reason we called you here tonight. you have been following this story for days and weeks eve. amna, this is two different files, as we said, one from the government, one from the aclu. the judge has been hearing it. where do we stand right n >> so overall when it comes to separated families, you have to
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remember there are still several hundred children who arwaiting to be reunited with their families and are still in u. cs. governmee and custody. the government has been making steady progress. they started with about 2,700 children. they have moved over 2,000 out of thr care ancustody, but this next group that the judge has focused on, this will be these are parents who are either released into the u.s., osr pare who are deported or voluntarily left. we're talking about 500 parents for whom the government dotes necessarily know where they are and doesn't necessarily have a way to contact them. that's going to complicate getting them back with their children significantly. >> nawaz: so they've submitted these plans. how are they going to pull this off. what is going on at this point? >> after this point in the hearing today, the judge is addressing the plans they had submitted. the government surprisingly to a lot of people trieto push a lot of the responsibility to the a.c.l.u., go find the parents, ask them if theyt weir kids back and let us know. we'll reunify them.
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the ng todayaid, i don't think so. he said, this is 1% the government's responsibility. we're here because of your separationpolicy. you have to own this. he called their pance unable. he said, for every parent you fail the find, you'll have a permanently orphaned child.an i askedxpert earlier today how they move forward. a short time ago, i oke with michelle brauning. she's the director of the migrant rights and justirace prat the women's refugee commission. she's an attorney who has longed won immigrants and human rights issues, and she's been working with the aclon these reunification efforts. i asked her about the government taking the lead moving forward. >> you know, throughout this process, we've seen the government failing the takey responsibilier and over and over again. it's not surprising. e thatad the judge m very clear. i hope that they step up. but throughout this process, it's been required step by step that the judge tell them what needs to be donbing and e what date. >> so these two groups we're
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talking about now is the focus for unification. parents who have left either voluntaril and because they were deported, released into the u.s. how much contact information, location ation, how much does that actually have about these parents? >> well, that is really the question, and that is what we're asking the government to tell us. we thinthat at least in some of these cases we have some information. ha are aware tin some cases children have been speaking to their parents, even after their parents were removed, and so that would indicate that there is a way to communicate with those parents. but we have to wait and se i don't know if that's 20 out of the almost 500 or if that's closer to 400 out of the 500. >> nawaz: tell me about that lack of informion. how much more complicated is the process moving forward because of the status of these parents >> well, you know, these parents fled their country in the first place because they were bing persecuted, they were fleeing violence, they were looking to save their children's lives. so it's not going to be easy to find them back in their home countries.
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and that's for several reasons. we don't know where they are. we don't baow if they wenck to the same place they fled or the last place we know of. we don't know if they are in hiding. we don't know if they're en ooute to come back the try t find their children again. when we go in there, there are attorneys and non-profits and just citizens wo want to help who are ready to go help to find these parents, but these daare erous places, and so we can't have people just running inn large groups looking for people who may be in hiding. this really has to be done with are. and that's why i think it's really important that the government take sore onsibility and step up and help. >> you milk ngan interes point: a lot of parents fled dangerous conditions in the first place before they were separated. one of the questions thet government w answered is do you even want your child reunited with you. can you ve me a sensef how many parents have already decided or m decide, you know what, i may have to leave, but i don't want my child broughtauack to me be i know they're safer in the u.s.
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>> that may be the case for some of these parents. it's really important that we give the parents the opportunity to express that view, that desire in a context in which they can do that safely and reasonably. many of these parents are forced toke decisions about whether to leave or not leave while beingetned, while not knowing what was happening to their children, and very often not even knowing whatthey were agreeing to. what was often presented to them was, if you want your chi back, you need to sign this paper in order to do that, the quickest way possible. and any parents in that circumstance is going to feel pressure or the desire to seie their above all else, so a lot of people signed those documents. ll, what was not presented to many of these families the option of staying and fighting the case themselves. these parents in many, many cases also have asylum clms. and i believe that many of them withdrew their claims thinking it was the only way to be reunified with their child inch those cases i think they should be able to come back to the united states and pursue that
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application. >> nawaz: how confident are you that these hundreds of parent whom the government is still trying the find in the first place, could be reunitedr with theildren again? >> you know, i think there's no question that we risk having some parents we never find and that some will say, as you indicated, i prefer my child to have a chance at safety in the united states, even if ian't be with them. but i don't think we're ready at this point to sort of throw up our hands and say, welol, many f these just won't be found. and that's the way it is. as the judge indicated, the government has a responsibility to try to find these parents, and hopefully we will find most if not all of them. >> nawaz: michelle brane, thank you for your> ime. >you're welcome. >> woodruff: such an important perspective for us to hear, and amna, i can't let you go without asking yt about l sophie, the young girl you met at the border weeks ago with herdm grher. >> that's right. >> woodruff: separated from her family. where does that stand? >> today, judy, marks six weeks
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since three-ye-old sophie was separated from her family. she remains in u.s. government customy. here is s information we can ,hare. sophie's family including her mother, who is working to het r back, they're all in california. sophie remains in a u.s. federally contracted shelter in pennsylvania. now, in the coming days, sophie's mother, with the pport of a volunteer group called immigrantamilies working together, she's planning to go to pennsylvania to try to apply some pressure and to get her daughter back. we talked to her mother quite regularly, andhe tells us every time she talks to sophie, sophie would cry and come toet picked up and she would ask when her mother was going to come. when we spoke to her yesterday, sht said sophie doesndo that anymore. ine worries that she's grown accustomed to lifhe shelter or life without her family. so she's continuing to work through the goverent reunification process. she's following the rules and submitting her documents, but she says she wants to see soph , so she's goingto
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pennsylvania, and she says when she leaves, she hopes that it will be with her daughter. >> woodruff: his three-year-old girl away from her mother, her family for six weeks, that's just hard to comprehend. amna, thank you. >> woodruff:y sth us. coming up on the newshour, myanmar struggles to control a and "eighth grade"-- a movie about navigating the tricky world of adolescen. >> woodruff: in africa, many technologies are beingsed to help raise the standard of living. special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports from kenya's capital, nairo where one technology is helping bring services to sothe opoorest people on the continent. it's the latest in his series "agents for change."
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>> reporter: in the maze that forms africa's largest urban slum, zack wambua's job is to keep and eye on the nooks and corners. he's with a group of residents in nairobi's kibera neighborhood who've been trained in basic computing technology to record where things like electrical lines, public toilets and community ter tanks are, and more critically, where they are need. >> i pick a point here. >> reporter: on this day, he was checking on street light locations, using a small g.p.s. device. >> yeah. if you didn't have a >> reporter: so having a light here is important to the security of the families that live in this area? >> ys. >> reporter: at the end of his day, the information is added to a database. it's all designed by an organization called map kibera, which provides the information free-of-arge so that public and private groups can better provide services. at least 50% of nairobi's population lives and yet, until a few years ago,
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most of these busy neighborhos-- like kibera behind me-- were blank spaces on official maps. mapping is one of several tech initiatives to bring attention to people in nairobi's vast impoverished nehborhoods-- people like farida atei, a second generation kibera resident. orphaned at 13, she shares this tiny space with an aunt and sister. she's 26 now, a single mother who is determined that life will be far better for four-year-old daughter amina. kfast, she loads up her backpack and heads to class, a few milwo-- and half a d-- from kibera in one of nairobi's thriving tech hubs. atei attends akirachix, a rigorous, post-high school rains young women from poor neighborhoods to be high tech entrepreurs. >> before i joined akirachix, i
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was just in the dark in that i didn't see my life and i didn't know where i was heading. >> reporter: what do you want to do when you get your diploma? >> i want to build websites which will be used not only here >> we're trying to see if we can start converting them not just to be women in tech, but to be drivers and creatorf technology.r: >> reporinda kamau is a software developer and co- founder of akirachix. >> tech is a tool. and so if you empower them with this tool, we help them get themlves out of the cycle of poverty, we're swing them there's a path, something they can use to actuallcuy themselves from the cycle that akirachix is one of several attempts to find answers in technology to brid the two worlds that farida atei inhabi.
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this initiative spun off from one of africa's most successful tech start-ups, called ushahidis "witness" hili. it was born ten years ago out of the dead violence that followed elections in kenya, and the limited media coverage of it, says angela odour. >> so, what a group of four kenya bloggers did was basically come together and create a platform that allowed for ordinary citizens to send either text messages, emails and tweets ng aroundngs happe them. >> reporter: sincen, the software company has grown exponent mlly used inore than 160 countries; helping humanitarian organizations find survivors from the haiti and nepal earthquakes and the tsunami in japan.ha
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usdi software was also used toonitor election irregularities in 40 countries, stcluding some parts of the u.s. in 2016 and the wo here in kibera and across kenya. >> in 2013 we received a text ssage about a group of tiople congregang around a polling station in a place called molo that is known for politic strife. and in a matter of 15 minutes, police officers were deployed and that is becaustext >> reporter: beyond monitoring elections, technology is becoming a tool to bring accountability to those electedm sa kibera's joshua ogure. >> we make the invisible, visible. we show the world, this is what we have, this is what we don't have. sohe government, we can hold e by sayingtabl "this is your responsibility and >> reporter: ogure also runs an online kibera news network--
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a modest effort to amplify the concerns of ordinary citizens. there's some evidence of a response. >> in kibera we had a deficit of secondary schools. >> reporr: vincent ayako is an aide to the member of parliament from this area. he says they used map kibera's data to get funding for a new high school. >> we found that im we had a pry school serving close to 1,500 students but there was no secondary school. >> reporter: back at the akirachix classroom, farida ate also has secific dreams for her future. she says she'd like to develop a fingerprint technology to stop people from stealing water, a big problem in her kibera neighborhood. >> so the owner or anyone living in that home will just use their fingerprint and the water will flow to the pipe and the owner will g the water. >> reporter: you want to use tech to stop wer piracy. >> yes. and immediately when someone tries to tamper with the fingerprint, the owner will
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receiva notification message. >> i know the internet of things is great, but if you want your fridge to be telling you it's empty, that's not for this continent. that's not for this market. their problems are very simple. but we don't have to wait for someone to come and fix them. >> reporter: farida atei will soon begin an internship with a tech company, the start she says of a journey out of the poverty, and possibly this neighborhood, that she's known all her life. for the pbs newshour, i'm fred de sam lazaro in nairobi, kenya. >> woodruff: fred's reporting is a panership with the under-told stories project at the university of st. thomas in minnesota.
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>> woodruff: now, back to presidential politics and the rady president trump atten last night in northeastern pennsylvania, to boostan republongressman lou barletta's run for the u.s. nate. the president's free-wheeling remarks included this characterization about hish summit last moth russian president vladimir putin. >> i had a great meeting with putin.ry we discussed ething. i had a great meeting. now, we're being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax, okay? i'll tell you what: russiaha very unhappytrump won, that i can tell you. >> woodruff: putin said in helsinki last month that he vored mr. trump's election. and u.s. intelligence officials have said repeatedly that russia's efforts in 2016 were intended to help mr. trump, and hurt the campaign of hillary clinton. the president'sar r last night also stood in contrast to this warning from his own director of national intelligence, dan coats,
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yesterday in the white house iefing room. >> in regards to russian involvement in the midterm elections, we continsee a pervasive messaging-- messaging campaign by russia to try to weaken and divide the unitedst es. these efforts are not exclusive to this election or future ections, but certainly, cover issues relevant tthelection. >> woodruff: and to the analysis of brooks and klein. that's "new york times" columnist david brooks and ezat klein, editoarge for the news site vox.com. mark shields is away this week. hello to both of you. david to, you first, on the same day his leadingational security and intelligence officials are saying we must take this russia threat seriously, the presi is out a few hours later saying it's all a hoax. do you take this government's effort seriously or not? >> well, the head of opthe sition now uses the white
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house briefing room to oppose the administration policy. i have never sn anything like it. i have never seen an administration where a president emphasizes one ting and his entire staff basically emphasizes the complete opposite. and so what's the effect? i think the deep state is still doing its work to try to head off russian interference. the trump apparatus understands there is that interference, and they can do some prof lactic measures to head it off, which what they seem to be doing, but unless you have the president involved, it micro activity, not macro activity, so it's hard to imagine the russians being intimidated by ruician pol some it's reasonable that interference will continue. it uiseems to be cong to this day. >> woodruff: do you take seriously that the trump dministration is working diligently to fef any russian interference issues? >> no, of course not. i'm fainated by the kind of lying donald trump did in that clip. it's one thing to say, hey, d a great meeting with vladimir putin, and the problem is theopposition, they don't
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want us to talk. it's one thing to shade the truth or another thing to sy, hey, people are impeding me and they're wrong. but to then say, i'll tell you, what russia never wanted donald trump to win, russia hates the idea that donald trump won, there's something about his belief that reality can be that completely manipulated that i find different. it's different than the way politicians normalize. hi had a level. confidence in one's ability to shape reoality. buyour other point, of course vladimir putin doesn't think this is a problem. donald trump welcomed it. putinlped him when he needed help. he has tried since to hava great relationship with putin. it's not reasonable to say -- it's note unreasona say that as long as donald trump is in office, it will be a disadvantage to putin. >> rsian foreign policy has changed. donald trump said, i have a great meeting with vladimir
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putin, one of the most ti-democratic, anti-american dictators in the world, and the republican rally cheers. and that's just a weird jarring moment. but then in congress, within the trump administration themselves, and among even john boonthe foreign policy apparatus of the republican party is still pretty much where it was. and so which ishe future of the party. is it a party that looks a lot more like donald trump in foreign policy realms or is it one that looks like the rest of his administration? don't know, but suspect it's a little more like trump. >> there's anotr thing i think is interesting, and it's a flip of what you just said. th democratic party is so angry at russia that the stakes for putin inhe election gethat much higher. if trump wins in 2020, he retains an ally. if he loses, then he's got democratic party that's spent four years blaming him personally for ev believe has gone wrong in the country. so he's thinking about russia and that engagement in the 2020 election, i think that's a dimension of this, too. but the parties halve poarized
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on how they treat russia that has made it an incentive for russia to keep their allies in. >> rabid anti-communist democrats now. fo>> woodruff: well, bee we get to 2020, ezra, you were talking about manipulating reality. david you mentioned the deep state. at the wilkes-barre pennsylvania rally last night and then at ya raearlier in the week in e mpa, florida, there wer the crowd fans cheering wildly the president. people wearing testimony shirts "q" and we looked into this. we interviewed our reporter who explains this is a conspiracy theory has grown. it's been out there for some but it's now at the point where it's come out into the open. essentially what they believe is there is a group of people supported by the clintons, by president obama, even byt presidorge w. bush who are trying to overthrow this president, and they're going to stop that from happening. how did we get to this place?u >> know, i used to say we
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tried to bring democracy in the middle east and wed en middle east everybodyizing our democracy, because we have become a realm of suspicion and conspiracy theories. remember the alleged crnhild raphy ring that was happening in a pizza rhea on connecticut avenue here in d.? these things come and go. the john bch society back in the '50s. they were filled with conspiracy theories. these things come and go. the question is, is there a william f. buckley? is there a ronald reagan? is there a democratic establishment that can quash them? now it's quite the opposite some what's happened is the mainstream, a lot of us mainstream journalists have becoe me delegitimized in es of a lot of trump supporters, sometimes for our own ult. if you don't hire from large segments of erican society, you become detached from them and they write you off. a lot of that has happened. but then the fans have been -- the fires have been fanned by trump themselves, lland basi what seems to be happening is a complete inversion of where information comes from.
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and those of us in the mainstream media whedo us to provide information are discountedded and this new thing has arisen. >> woodruff: how wore worried should we be? we take it seriously? >> th ce qspiracy itself, which is a fascinating conspiracy, the argument is that donald trump on some level has -- we're seeing alla will the of chaos, but it's carefully orchestrated. at some point there will be a bnag reveal and trump will come out and root out all the corruption that has been endemic in washington so long. there is a comfort in believing something like that. it hard for me to tell if this is a more profound orea wideing conspiracy theory than ones we've had in the past. i think back in the clinton years to the widespread belief that ths e clintkilled vince foster, that they were running cocaine out of america. thisind of thing in american politics is not new. it ds get a lot of play on
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social media. the thing i do fi strange is i tend to associate this kind of conspiracy theorizing with the r.lks who are out of po that's when you tend to see this stuff take hold. but donald trump and a lot oppf his ters act like an out-of-power group despite being in power. there is the top of the deep astate. there ailuation of the government. to some degree they have authority. that's ta weird piet could lead it to go in an unusual direction. >> the underlying feature is cial distrust, tremendous distrust of institution, dismissal of any institution, an assumption that any institution, whether it's a hospital, a newspaper, they're all corrupt. they're all in it for themselves. it's all a ancon on the amer people. once you embrace that as your fundamen of what happens. sort >> woodruff: well, another thing we saw this week, i guess this has bee brewing for some time, was the conservative libertarianh brothers, billionaire business people who have invested a lot of their money in supporting candidates they believe in, david, and they
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wereuoted in a washington post story as being critical of the president, saying the government's spending too much, critical of his trade and so when the president responded not generally, said the koch brothers, he said their allies have become a total joke in real republican circles, i don't need their money or bad ideas. i have beaten them at every turn. is this a fight to the finish? the psident says th don't matter. do they matter? >> well, moneytl matters a l so i guess they still matter. they were never likeartisan republican hacks. they were... they had a belief system which was more libertarian leaning belief system. and you were with them fine, but if you were an organized standard republican, that was not fine wemh th and so they were part -- there were two ways the republican jection of the republican establishment could go. if you go in the koch direction, a ich ware libertarian direction, but it didn't, it went in the trump direction. he was more inwi touchh people's views about entitlement programs, about the role of tate
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, and so i think it's very clearly a libertarian moment that seems -- there was johnsi , dick army. that is a moment that has not grown. this is not a fightbetween a couple rich people. this is a fill -- philosophical movement between a populit leaning party and a libertarian leaning party. >> woodruff: the government is now having to borrow money to pay for what it wants to do. >> it's interesting the way these groups are fighting.on on th hand donald trump has given the kochs a lot of what they want. not everything. mike pence is a very close koch ally. a lot of folks in the trump administration, because pence has a lot of authority over staffing, have come from that there are a lot of things the trump administration has done on buregulation and taxes they've been happy with then there are parts where trump has more idiosyncratic personal views.sc it's ating, because it's not just donald trump. donald trump doesn't have .uthority over spendi
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paul ryan has been pushing those bills forward. mitch mcconnell has beosen putting bills forward. they're also upset with republicans in congress. there is a wayit gets identified and personified in donald trump. they don't want to be at cross-purposes with people they otherwise like, but it's not donald trump making all these spending decisions. >> one area i agree with trump, and that's how you win elections. the koch method is you power billions into billions of races. they do well when republicans do well. theyheo terribly in yearsn republicans do terribly. there is not a lot of method their method is a great method. donald trump, strong message thd a guy acebook and twitter account. and so it's not the big structure. it's not the big mey. i would say in a media age like we're in now, actually the trump way of winning electis is a better way than the koch way. >> woodruff: in the minute and a half we have left, i want to talk about former president obama. ezra, he cae out a couple days ago with 81 democrats running
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fors office acrosthe country, mostly congressional offers, some state seatssaying the are some people i'd like to support. what does this say to you? is it going to have an impact this year? >> it is not a vast enough set of endorsemento be pushing a particular message into to election. it's in the like the way bernie sanders is going around people who support medicare for all or seth moulton is endorsing veterans. it's a lot of mainstream democrats, some people with former ties to the obam. administrati it's engage. for obama, but it isn't the level of party leadership or party redestruction some people have wanted from him. so it ends up where i think a lot of obama's political engage. is between the people who don't want him involved and the people heo want him to take a leadership role in democratic party. it's pretty standard. >> wufdr you think he just issued a paper statement? >> what struck me is homany locals. i think he feels the democrats tend to focus national and not
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enough locally. they've done poorly locally. redistricting will be coming up before too long. i think wants the party to focus on that. he's trying to do something he didn't do a great dealof when he was a president, which is rebuild the local democratic party. >> woodruff well, a lot of people have been waiting to see what he was going to do. he says there's more he's going to endorse. we will see. david brooks, ezra klein, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: and finally, living throath wkward age in the modern era. jeffery brown looks at a new film about a week in the life of a middle-schooler that is drawing strong critical praise for its performances, and forra its raw pol of the challenges of being a teenager in the digital age it's called "eighth grade." >> hi guys, kayla back here with another video. >> reporter: ready with awkward
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advice to her online video audience of zero. >> rep follow that advice in real life. actress elsie fisher-- now 15-- knows what that's like. >> kayla's storvey wa close to home for me, yeah, because i mean i just reember being the quiet weird kid at school. i think it's not only capturing the 8th grade experience it kind of is capting the human experience of that makes sense.a e i think everyone you know is feeling anxious and weird all the time, regardless of whether they're still in eighth grade. >> reporter: the filma"eighth g" sets the familiar fumblings of adolescence, in a coemporary world magnifiedby the constant glare of a glowing screen-- or the latest snapch filter. >> when did you get snapchat? wh grade? >> fifth grade. >> fifth grade? >> reporter: it's the deut film
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of 27-year-old bo burnham. >> i felt like torhe of the internet and social media hadn't really been talked about, sort of the depictions of the internet that i see in media tend to be a little bit finger wagging and a sense of authoritn and i kind ofd to just talk about what it meant to live with it, just subjectively how it sort of registers to us emotionally. and when you're an eighth grader everything is emotional, everything is subjective.bu >> reporterrnham was best known previously as a stand-up inmedian. >> what's a pirate a ship? >> reporter: but he first gained internet fameor his own teen- aged home videos. i asked burnham what he sees now of those videos ofou hiser self. >> you know, i see a persoat desperate fontion and love and it's a little bit embarrassing but it's out there forever which i think experience that a lot of young people have and will have to sort of like permanent record of your most barrassing times. what i want to do in t e movie is sof process that and say,
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where does this need to connect come from? >> reporter: details ab crucial hereurnham shot the film in a real middle school with actual teachers and students as extras. the frustrations of parents trying to reach their screen- absorbed children will also feel all too real to many-- in this case kayla and her loving bu flummoxed father. >> look, when i was your age i was not cool like you. you have all these interests and your videos and just how you express yourself in them. it is just so cool it is so great but i think maybe you need to put yourself out there a little bit. >> i think it was because i'm right betw feel like both of them. i feel like a scared nervous kid on the internet. and i also feel like an out-of- touch dude who has no one to turn to and is just trying his best to make this girl feel good. h >> how was the shadow thing? >> no, you were being quiet, which is fine but don't be weird and quiet, 'cause like i lookyo over aand i think you are about to drive us into a tree or something and i get really freaked out and then i can't text my iend
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>> reporter: no spoilers here-- suffice it to say that kayla graduates middle school only to realize she stilotl must nte life offline and what actress elsie fisher calls a kind of ogital addiction. >> attention is kicurrency nowadays. people want to feel seen and they want to know that they have people who actively riare about them and they think social media fulfils that a little bit, because you can see the comments and "likes" andyoead tweets and re tagged in pictures. but it's just a very overstimulating thing. >> reporter: it's something the film, says director burnham, seeks to capture, without passing judgement. >> if the internet was just bad to be so much easier to address, you know, throw your phone into the ocean. i think it's both. you know the internet. it makes it connects us and it isolates us. it stimulates us and it numbs us. we can objectify ourselves or we can express ouelves. >> reporter: "eighth grade" opens in theaters nationwide
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