trump administration's plan tor uh do pollution rules and how ca is responding. the week in politics including electi security and facebook's ongoin struggle to police its own platform. what mig a border wall look like. we head to san diego to look at the pr llond welcome to kqed newsro we begi withpolitics. this week the trump admini announced a plan to slash regulations presid to fight air pollut cars. it was rolled back and rulesqu auto makers to double the fuel economy of cars to about 50 mile per gallon in 2025. are targeting the states like california to set their own

standa govern brown fired back saying califo will fight this stupidity in every way possible. as wildfires continue to burp in shasta county and mendocino and yosemi national park, lawmak are considering what can be done toar cope danger fire seasons. joinin me now with perspective on the issues is congressman john gar mendy who sits on the house armed services committee. you just toured the areas will affect by the devastating mend seeno complex fires. they are still raging in many areas under mandatory evacua what struck you the most as you toured area? >>. the courage of the people thre evacuated. they are in a very, very diffic situation. one woman had just been to the hospit and got thes nd i said what happened. she said i don't have twins. i'm going to have triplets. she got up with a happy smile

and went todinner knowing she may not have a home to return to. enormo courage and the red cross works and the firefi in a very, very anger situation that goes right back to the first question you raised abo vehicle mil standa pollution and climat change. these tied together. >> governor brown said they are tiedin and anticipates more fis the future costing billio fight and repair the damage what do you thin needs to be address this nd new reality? >>ge chcongress. you have got to change congress. congress, 't change this will continue on. the republicans are enabling thf stupidhe trump admini they are not pushing back. and they won't push back because trump controls the base of the republ party now. so that may seem to be politi if you want an answer to the question, congress has to change. otherw this go going to on and we will see the roll back of

the regulations and nobodyin congre sent it. they are notan willing to s up and stop it. >> that aside, ishere anything that can be done in the meanti what about from a state level? what policies would you li to see? >> sue. sue theor ay general. maybe if the administration pursue this is on the regulatory side, it can slow it down with lawsui the rest. or ift gets past that, congre will enable it. >> you mentioned auto emissions. that's another big issue we are hearin about. what did you think about rolling back t erare lations. >> trump is in with the koch brhe the petroleum indust he believes there is such a thing as clea coal or talks about it as though he believes it. result of that is the auto

emissi standards that were in place obama admini would consume less petroleum and create less carbon dioxide and less pollut and trump is going in the opposite direction.s >> administration claims that those standards under obama would incretraffic deaths by encour people to drive more and forcing auto make build lighte cars. thehink governor brown used correc word to describe it. it's stupid. just plain stupid. it's as though this man, t presid has never driven a car and doesn't understand that vehicl mileage saves people a vast amount of money. if you want to continue to buy gas from the proleumindustry, reduce the standards so you can not have a car that has more than 10 miles per hour. that's great for the petroleum indust terrib for the climate and air qualit the wrongimply going way be this is plain

stupid his comments were that. >>et's switch gears and talk about foreign affairs. you said on the house armese ic committee, what are the bigges threats to u.s.ur s >> donald trump. i keep coming back to the it's the president. you look at the way in which he is refusing to protect this nion from russia's involvement not only in the campaigns, but also in the infrastructure i know from confidentia hearin that they are able to get into our electrical power plantsncluding nuclear power plants his people were out just yester on thursday, saying that there is a threat the russia are here. he russians are engaged in the electi and the infrastructure. ree hours later the president said russia is not a problem. come on. we need a president, we need this man to protect the

that's his oath of office. russia is not only attacking our democr they are attacking our critical infrastructure and much, much the president has to stand up for america. >> on that enpic, the pres also this week tweeted basically a call mueller to end his russia investigation. ishat obstruction or is it simply frustration like the wite house said? >> what's the difference? entin frustration about an ongoin investigation of his campai and involvement with the russians and when he says end it, is that obstruction? i beli a jury is going to be sdhag question and quite will comet questi to the congress of the united states in an impeachment n hea we are not there yet. it may come to that. we have the mueller will see what comes of that. when the president of the united states speaks and it h been confir his tweets are in

fact his policies. whethe he is venting or not. >> re quickly, we had an extrao instance where the nation top security officials came and said that russia and it is our democracy is in the cross irs. are yo t securi and the integrity of the upcoming election? >> absolutely. in my own tweet account, 300 accoun were deleted just amo th ago as the company went throug trolls and delete 300in my own account that were accessing our account. >> it'sin astoni >> it is. it's a very real problem and this issue about abolish ice has come from russian trolls that are pushing tha issue forward. they are definitely involved. and where is the federal govern now we need a president that is willin to back itp andake it happen.

>> congressman, thank you for being here. >> in other political news, the tax ev and bank fraud trial agains paul manafort began this week. he is accused of failing to pay taxes more than $60 million he earned working for ukrainian politi it's the first to stem from robert mueller's russia invest the masord charare not tied to collusion. facebo said it removed32 fake organi pages and accounts being used to influencemerican politi this come amid ongoingi crit that facebook failed to detect the accounts to interfere in the electi joinin me are political senior writer carly and shawn walsh and market watch's jremy owens. welcom to you at a rally this week, president trump sd getting along with putin is a good thing.

advise said russia is a huge ongoin threat to the security and integrity of our elections. as long as the president's advise are taking the threat seriou does it m ter what presidsaid? >> it's a little strange to hav your advisers outf with wha your president said publicly. the president asked these folks to come in t the briefing room and say the words he had to say. pompeo is criticiz them and i'm hopeful he is gettin sea legs and realizing that the policy needs to be much more aggres for dangerous threats agains the united states. >> while they come out and give the administration policy, doesn' the president undermine them with his tweets as he did with pompeo saying what a great guy ki was and at the same t pompeo was saying you are not following our directives on the issue. >> it's not helpful from a

rhetor perspective, but the people making sure theyot are being physically interfered with at the state level and doing their jobs, i will take it as a win. >> speak ofonitoring comput there are continuing threat of foreign interferenc online d in the elections. this week facebook said they delete 32 inauthentic facebook pages accounts. how mu influence did accounhave? >> it's just the topur fad about 10,000 people following them. they w aimed at ethc groups or the left. there one aimed at mexican americ and one aimed at what people don't seem to realiz is this attack is meant to just sew divisivenes and push people to the political edges get them out. they created about 30 events trying get people out in the real world where tey can be videoe and filmed being angry.

that what enemies of the u.s. want to see. they areot there to support the right or the left, but push americ towards the right and the left and have them yell at eacher. >> create tension. >> create tension and divisi th everybody sees and they feel either i need to get on one side or the oth or i don't care and i don't vote. that's the thing that they want to seee angry. >>. albo over fa and twitter and google, they were supposed to be created for good. rememb google's motto, do not evil. we are past that. they can acknowledge they're being used for digital warfare here. be don't seem acknow it. >> google's motto is no longer do no evil. they did. they created the platforms and saw the great and did not prepar for the bad.

alex stamos wrote this memo. the chief security we need to watch out for this stuff. it's betweeny do a rock and a hard place. they saw twitter break down and they get accused of trying to ot rithe follower accoun try to get rid of the influence and bots and anyone there to spread informs. ey try to push it off and they get it from people who are on the platform who feel that changi that's difficult f >> this is nothing new. this has been going onince the revolu he russians now are using the techno to their advantage. >> the technology is new, right? fairly new. it's possible for them to ampify their message thatuch more. >> in the 60s and the 70s, they

funded a lot of leftist activist groups rye now they are funding rig ng activist groups because as karla said earlier, their goal is not necessarily to pick one side or the other, but to sew divisi within democratic societ bolster. russ a third world economy with a first world mitary. this is what they a helped years and will continue to do. we have to call them out on it. >> the are being reactive instea of proactive. they spent $11,000 on ads in the past year putting thi in of people and they are now having it and taking themdown. how ma more are like that? >> it's impossible to know. >> they will go for something else. they haven't figured it out. >> what are is the incentive for facebo how mu motivation to change? we saw that market crash that happen recently and lost $120 billio in value in one day.

even so, it remained the fifth most valuable company. >> now it's worth a trillion. >>pple is worth a trillion. have these companies likep , google facebook become so big and powerful that you can't really hold them accountable? >>. facebook got held accoun they lost $120 billion. they w held accountable financ they have to be held accountable by government and see regulation come through. they are not going regulate themse they will figure it out and regula them alves. th hiring 20,000 people for security on that platform. that's hurting their profit margin will hurt them financ >> her something important. tanda oils untouchable until congress got if in. the railroads were untouchable until congress g wasn't i flew in this morning from washin we met with t

senato the attitude with regard these larger ech compan not what it once was. the fear is not there. they are watching what's happen europe and if theyhe don't problems, i can guaran congress and the regula are d going to someth >> does congress have the know how or does anybody know how to deal with them? >> when zuckerberg smoke before congre do they understand the issues enough to regulate them? even people who do understand up witues can't come good regulations t going to stop them from happening. do they understand them well enough they understand the law better than people in silicon valley lookin for ways toep it from happen something do they unders tech well enough? >> sadly, i don't think we unders the issues well enough to regulate. it can be from the environment to technology to etc. whethe they don' or they

will. i thank time is coming. >> i'm glad you brought up the enviro that provides a great segue to auto emissions. heav criticized the trump administration's position on this to roll back vehicle emissi standards. howhi else isplaying ou politi in california and other >> thi a throw down betwe califo and the trump admini when you have jerry brown and arnold schwarzeneg calling this a stupid policy andnd automa environmentalists questi the effect it's going to have onconsumers and on then environ you have a problem. talking about roll adopte in the obama admini and talked abou uppinghe fuel efficiency on the vehicles an almost doubling down and y talk about doing

away with a californiality drae their own rules. it dates back to the reagan admini govern reagan. >> you are suggesting it could result in a patch work differ regulations around the countr automa areorried about this and consumers are worried, too. >> with theru administration, th they are stating. thesi cl state right argume califo is so big, what califo does as far as a regula perspective warp the entire countrou ha two competing interests that are hard to warp and disrup the economy. califo has their own fuel standa and low-carb on emissi should that be the standard for the rest of the country? maybe yes and maybeno. should one state dictate and warp from an economic perspe you ca put the policies all

acrossboard. you ha to decide what is in the national interests that now you get a small state like nebras andalifornia dictates someth they can't afford and don't need. there a public policy debate and saw governor schwarzenegger's comments that should investigate and examin what's the right role for the federa government and the state. >> let's talk about sething el attracting a lot of attent in california. democr socialists, alexandia ocasioith two sold out fund-r she defeated her indum bent, joe crowle she is old. >> this is something to watch. i was atthat mission district fund-raiser and it the gills with excited millen voters. 28 years old, she was aba en last year. she got up in front of this

group and really them and delivered a message democr are looking for. we need to communicate with workin class people. she didn't mention trump once. she talked abou getting nonvot backnto the mix. the problem for the democra is that socialist label. is that their own party or are they part of the if so, the republicans use that label to paint the democratic party as extremists in t coming election. >> and they decided o the net roots conference where a bunch activists gotting to and they are going hard left and said we are going do what we are goin to do. nancy pelosi be damned and the democr establishment be damned the last six primariesthat happen for republicans, almost all the republican establ have gone down. you ha thesevi acs outside the business types. the democrats are going left and

thear republicans being disrup where that ends up favors the democr going the selection. there a lot of motivation. >> you saw that this week. she sold out hern raisers the excitement and the energy, if she can energize the young voters that's a good thing for the democratic party. >> the designation by 7 percen points favoring the democr that means probably i the trends continue, the republicans lose minim 25 seats and upward of 52 seats. it's a problem. >> a full week of lots of issues to discuss. thanks all of you. we will leave it there. swn walsh and senior writer karla and bureau chief jeremy a pleasure to have you. >> thank you very much. >> to immigration now, president trump threatened to shut the govern down if democrats don't approve funding for the

wall along theus-mexico border. 30-fooes protot have been built and tested. we will hear from a u.s. customs and patrol agot whether the current system is working and we will see the prototypes close. julie small report diego. >> here we have the prototypes. four concrete and four alternate materi this i solid concrete and you can see how thick it is on the bottom probab three fe of solid thick concrete. 30 feet tall and the bottom is out two feet thick. this w poured in place. t.ey go down at least six fe this i probably the first 10 or 12 feet and has annt climbin plate in the middle abouttour feet. none has a little bit more o esthetic feature and

a stamped concrete look and an nti-c fence that is angled towards the southside. noa lot of people are going to climb this. people will still climb it, but it wil t more time and that's a benefit for us. >> they say the wall is actually o fences stretching for only 14 miles. they w 90s and can be cut through or climbed over in a matter of seconds. >> when this was built, it was effect because it would stop people take them longer to jump up and over. they can get through and cut his in abou 30 or 45 seconds with the tools available. batter operated saws and that's why it's time toh replace with something like the protot we saw earlier. roughly 2,000 agents like this patrol the california

border for smugglers at por between tijuan and sandiego. >> it's the busiest land port in the worle they with 100,000 people a day. as you can see behind me, they are going with a huge expansion, increasing the number of vehicle lanes pedestran lanes. >> the constructio going on on the southside. we had imposters, aliens coming across and they dress like constr workers and we have a numb agents close to keep an eye on that. >> thi agent joined the u.s. custom and border protection eight years ago and he was drawn the job by a personal connec >> my wife's grandfather was a retire agent. when met her, he workedt of the el cajon station and heari s stories like the camaraderie betwee agents, they bragged about him and how good hetias. as farc, that's a

large our job. followfootprints. tracki tracki people, tracking footpr or disturbs in the ground whethe it's the imprint of the shoe or now they use carpet squareyp a of booty. i want to be like that one y. the fir group of illegal aliens tracking them from the border for a cole of hours and make that apprehension the first time it was like nothing else i ever felt. that puts a smile on your face and made you oud like y are making a difference. making apprehensions at the check point and p rescuingple stuffe trunks pleading for water. that's gratifying as onwell. you know how they would make it if they got past you. >> so far the border patrol appreh 28,000 people, up nearly 10% from 2017. the trump administration's zero toled to the

widely criticized separation of thousa of migrant children. t policy since ended. >> sometimes you have to appreh family, little childr how do you handle that? is it difficult? >> not necessarily. it's a part of the job. you kind of have to understand where are coming from they a trying to better themse they have t respon to enter legally. whethe that's difficult or notf sib my job is to stop the illegal entrie that's what i atdo. ather can be a wanted crimin or have bad rap sheet. you can't get complacent and comfor but you feel for them. there right way to enter and wrong way. >> our tour along the border ended the last parts of the fence into the pacific ocean.od we sto near friendship circle where for a few hours on th weeken visitors on either side

of the border can speak through a metal fence. the fight over immigration in the u.s. is testing the bonds of friend with mexico like never before. increasing scrutin of border polici and the people who have to enforce them. >> there are than t media. them we can handle that, but on the field, i think the gals and girls in green adapted well and contin to do their job. >> even if a new border wall eventu gets fund and built, it t remai be seen if a er it r, no ma stop people daring or desperate enough to cross the border. >> that was kqed immigration report julie small. that will do it for us. you ca find more coverage at kqed.org/newsroom. thank

>> raucous rallies. defiant tweets. a looming showdown with the elspecial cou i'm robert costa. august is anything but tonight on "washington week." [chanting] u.s.a.! u.s.a.! robert: just hours before president trump hosted a rally in pennsylvania, his national security chiefs were sounding therm ala. >> our democracy, itself, is in the cross hares. free and faheir elections are cornerstone of our democracy and it has become clear that they are the target of our adversaries. robert: a stark warning from the white house. russiased and continues to use cyber weapons to interfere in american campaigns. >> the intelligence community continues to concerned about the threats of upcoming u.s. elections.