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hello, eryone, welcome to "amanpour and company." here's what's coming up. the shocking story of jrnalist jamal cash oak, condemnation of eaudi prince mohammed bin salm continues. we look at what mbs' war in yemen backed by the united nations -- occupation. then the pulitzer winner journalist buzz water feed, his prize is passed down through families. plus, could we be looking at connecticut's first black democr in congress?ay johanna speaks to our michel martin about her remarkable journey from high school teacher to mid-term
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etch, i'm christiane amanpour in london. the disappearance of jamal hiashoggi has been become emblematic of theing power in saudi arabia the accumulation of authority has been ruthless and his forei policy has been unusually you a audacious. they have been fighting hewitou rebels also known as the forgotten or silent war the saudis have been accused of heding a conflict while the kingdom's allies kungs u united states are on mounting criticism for supplying the saudis are powerful weapons, it's heart wrenchinge and s of the images may be disturbing to some viewers. yemen now w faces thest famine in a century, according to united states which says it is
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entirely man made, a thousands displaced. the country is teetering on a third cholera outbreak. we have the latest on the conflict as the casualties continue to mount with no end game in sight. >> another day in yemen's bloody war. this exclusive footage was sent to cnn by the houthi media showing the after math by sau led coalition plane on saturday. local officials say 19 men, women and children were killed as they attempted to knee the yemeni port. the site o an existential struggle of a u.s.-backed n coalitd the houthi rebels. as ever in war the victims are too often nngsause in the cross fire. as scrutiny grows around allegation that the saudi crown prince's involvement in theal journalist j cash oak, criticism is growing around and
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other great recklessness. the three-yearong war in yemen. today the world food program tells cnn theumber of yemenis facing famine could rise to nearly 12 miion, making it the worst famine for a century and one that is entirely man made the fighting in the incessant saudi-led bombardment created a perft storms one that lea the party to their international backers with blood on their hands. in the u.s., the drum beat of iticism among lawmakers is growing acrossic the pol aisle. >> one of the strong things we can do is not only stop military sales, not only put sanctions on saudi moarabia, st importantly, get out of this rrible, terrible war in yemen led by the saudis. >> reporter: in spite of the president's avowed support for saudi arabia, including rather
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large asales. >> i would not be in favor of stopping a country from spending $110 billion, with i is an all time record. >> reporter: here in yemen, they're hoping all the talk will finally result in action. n, london. >> when you heard that figure of 12 million people under the threat of famine, if that wasn't terrible enough, though, by the end of this week, aid agencies are now saying the number was am underee and they have increased that to 14 million people facing imminent famoue. >> that isly half of yemen's population. so could the international fallout from the khashoggi crisis have any impact on thisa br conflict? the international rescueco ittee joins me. welcome. >> thank you. >> do you -- would you in th human rights committee, the refugee committee, like to see that llout? like to see in this terrible
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murder of our colleague actually highlight and bring some act on something that's been going on for much, much longer? >> well, i do see the depth ofh khasi as a tragedy, of course. but we need to put it in the y context as rightly pointed out, 14 aillion people risk of starvation and that includes millions of children. so if we can see the same level of attention that media takes to this tragic death of a journalist applied equally to 14 million people w are very much at risk in the coming months, then that is i think a moral victhey. >> so emir has been doing his best to go there when it can. it's very very difficult. you have to get permissions from all over the place, known to be the saudi coalition. it's not just the media, obviously, is it? you talk about the british government is selling articles. the u.s. government is articles. what does the international rescue committee sa i to governments who are selling arms right now? >> well, there's two sides to
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this problem the first you correctly point out are huge arm sale to saudi arabia. it's not the sales, themselves, that are resulting in civilian d deathshe deaths of children in yemen. it'shas being done with those weapons. our point is governments who have influence, either through arms sales or other ways through the saudi-led coalition should call upon all those who have conducted18,000 airstrikes since 2015 to stop bombing civilians and humanitarian aid workers. until that happens, we can't get aid in. people can't go out and get food and tragic sces have yohown will replace maybe as many as 14 million times. >> it wa a shock when we heard saat that many people face very, very imminent er. we are told by the u.n., the oil food program, that theen have gh cereals maybe to last another two months. from your experience from the irc and the human rights community and the aid community,
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what happens when cereals and that kind of meager food runs out in two months? is from a pipeline you can easilyresupply? what happened? >> cereals and food supplies exist in the world. the supplies are there. we can always dos with more. but the access isn't. the port is normally oned but, fact, they're not allowingarge containerships. so it's like a stranglehold of food. and this port is meant to supply 70% of what yemen needs. so at the moment its supplies can't get out. people can get t the supplies so we are watching a tragedy that is preventible both through a cessation of airstrikes and opening up ports. >> when you say they are not letting it, who? at the moment, our call is on the saudi-led coalition to allow aid to get in through a united port. it's calling on both sides, at the moment through a series of checkpoints, permission slips,
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et cetera, they're effectively creating barriers to the most vulnerable. our risk is changing towards besiegement, as we've seen in syria and other places, this is where civilians get caught up in a militarytactic. it's a very sad thing, but one i've seen in my conflicts. >> part of your history and your experience has been with the british army. you spent many years as an officer. so give us your military analysisf wha you just described as siege tactics, as squeezing these populations, as we've seen over and over in syria, it was a siege and starve and surrender tactic. wasn't it? >> many times inconflicts, these tactics are os stenably used to rede the number of casualties on both sides. when civilians are caught in the middle of that besiegement, what ends up happening they have settlement tactics used as a part of a war effort.
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what we are see incomeemens there are 300,000 civilians who are not getting access to food as much as they should and there are many other pockets like this. the result is that particularly chilreen under 5 deteriorating much more quickly. that's why we focus on that age group. ki only imainne h seen this in other conflicts, what it feels like the first time your child cries, because they don't ve enough food. we all notice it is apparent. watching it over the weeks and days of ald not getting enough calories and slowly wasting away, that'has happening. it all originates with tactics that are designed to help combatants and not think about this. >> you know, i've seen reports, photo journalist reports where they've found c ald that's 8-years-old but looks like byears-old, completely scrawny, completely on tnk of just literally skin and bones. then visiting that same family the same child six months to a year later after there have been
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supplies of food. certainly t t child isalive again. but with crucial, crucial damage to their mental facilities and to their stunting, actually, of their growth. yes, i've seen exactly that in east african famine, where, firstly, i've seenhiren crying because they didn't understand that their legs didn't work. they didn't understand they were malnourished. slowly recoveng. day-by-day the damage can't be fixed the way their physical strength can be restored through >> i've seen this visibly and rapidly demonstrated by our colleagues from yemen. so when you look at this now, what iarthe big challenge from the access, obviously, that you said, what does the irc see as its strategy, it's plan, militarily? i'm asking you for your military analysis first. do y see an exit vaj? do you see anyway thatr eit side can be brought to the table to stop this? >> well, that'sur hope as
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humanitarians that both sides will be willing to talk. we've known with previous talks that one or either side is not willing to engage.e we h that particularly with the political pressure and the attention on saudi-ledit con, that and that side can be persuaded to end ts conflict through negotiation and equally that the houthi militias also do the same. wiun calling a for the humanitarians to reach all civilians in need as well as truly opening the port to allow sufficnt aid to get in. >> so is that a cease-fire or particularly humanitarian corrseors to let t convoys go through?, >> well things are so desperatel we w take anything, including a cease-fire or humanitarian access. ultimately, these are stop gap solutions, as is all d. the reality is the only way we heing a full solution is through peace and restoration of full access to yen for
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commercial trade as well as paying people their salaries. because at the momeng we're help lot of families that can support themselves if the government was paying salaries. >> are you the international rescue committee. ca these people g out? can they flee this disaster? >> it's veryor difficult many people to flee. partly because of a patchwork control between the two sides, also,ld where wou flee to? in that part of the world, there aren't many places, in fact, what we are seeing ithe people are trying to cope with whatever reserves they hold on to. that's why you ares seeing t concentration of nourishment, the cholera epm depidemic. they're into the becoming refugeeles. the problem is contained within yemen. >> so let's talk about the bigger refugee issue, because there are very ugly narratives that seem to be, you know, taking most of the oxygen in the public sphere about refugees and aboutmmigrants and i know the
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irc and others in theame community, you know, trying to get a different narrative out about refugees. it seems to me that you're failing and the politicalad s are winning. those who want to use this issue for their o political end. what do you need to do to -- and what should people understand about refuge in syria or yemen nd, indeed, when they come to europe? >> i think you are using exactly the right words. i think sometimes we tend to use two different words, mike grants and refugees might be the same thing. you can be an economic migrants who is leaving a country looking for a job elsewhere and a better life. but a refugee has a real fear of persecution, starvation and in this case in yemen, a combination of all of these hings, so they are truly vulnerable and truly at risk and many of them if they can will look to flee the country and we deserve, we should be aplying a diffenttandard in terms of
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compassion and understanding. sadly, i think the narrative is to assume the worst inten in people. that's the change i've seen over the course of my lcareer. >>k alt what's happening in germany, for instance, whatever it might be some neo-nazi tendencies are using this, including hs about refugees. what have you -- what would you o tell a public audience about, let's say, crime in joseph cornelius in refug areas, where they've let refugees in or assimilation of these people? >> i would say, firstly, theet associationen refugees and crime is entirely wrong remember it's your character that u determines if ill be a criminal, not your immigration status. so when you associate a rugee with a crime, it's a really lazy form of thinking when, in yofac could be of any nationality a refugee a migrant a citizen and commit a crime. many e,refugees on average, better at integrating into societie than almost anyone else. in the u.s., we did a national
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survey that showed a refugee is twice as likely to repay their car loan as acitizen. it's just an example. for these countries kindly taking in refugees, engaging them, i want greating them into the economy, the way toas inc your gdp and therefore benefit from this. >> what is your worst fears, if this tide of anti-refugee, anti-immigrant tide continues and you get these parties whon thrive this even more powerful, more people in their parliaments and maybe in some cases winning and being in government in. >> it's a real concern f us. and the fight in europe is between growing far right movements like this. my concern is that i we don't fight back, with a real narrative and real stories, but also real facts and data, and the narrative will be onehich is inaccurate but also result in n ally a permanent shift i compassion and let's face it, if we're taking fewer refugees, we're not solvi the problem.
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we're moving it elsewhere. as we've seen withct conf growing all over the world, these conflicts eventually will come to our shores it's a global problem. we can't ignore it and pretend like it can be stopped at our borders. it doesn't work that way. >> i'm circleing back to what is theorld's worse crisis? yemen. what is it like? you actually engage with saudi authorities? the head of the irc a former known, head, very well very well respected around the world. he brings you know heft to this fog. he can talk to them as equals, so to speak. do you engage them? do you talk about this with civilians? >> well the thing is we'll talk to anyone about anything that we can get done that will help people and we don't take favor, so in any conincome we're
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talking to all sides the problem is i think both sides feel they can win a military victory the reality is they may or may not be able to dohat. but the human cost isle inble, as severe as anything i've seen, probably anything we've all seen since world war ii. so we need to get people out of the all or nothing position. ask them to come to a solution. ice we will see quite a few morf years o suffering. >> again, to clarify, do you see this a a moment where t leadership of the irc, this currentrisis over jamal khashoggi and try to persuade those who are principally responsible? you'veed just identihem to rethink this? >> well, our hope, personally is we will not alone, certainly, we are willing to speak up and say the who are in an ability to reduce casualties andake the first step should be recognized.
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i think the khashoggi affair has thrown e shown there is a moment in time when the world's media is paying attention to t s issue and we'll do everything we can to raise the case or 14 million starving people. >> what is the irc's position on moral ndleadership human rights in foreign policy? you've heard and we've over and ov again heard these sound bytes from president trump saying i do not want to risk 100 billion worth of saudi arm sales, ie, jobs for american people by sanctioning them, no matter what's the truth in this case? he doesn't want to do it. becaase he ciates in those kind of terms. what is the irc's position on leadership and foreign policy in these cases? >> i find that people have more compassion than sometimes leaders are willing to give them cred for. certainly, if you look at the generosity of the american people over decades, taking the most vulnerable, going back to jewsg retak europe, that's how
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the irc was formto, to y, taking over 29,000 refugees a year. people have line. one of those is manufacturing is important. when the manufacturing results in weapons given to a country, that isombing and causing human suffering in a conflict, we reay need to ask ourselves, what would people really say about that? >> there have beening a sathss that some of the killings amounts for war crime a calls for accountability. again, what is the irc's position on this and do you agree some need to be held accountable at the highest level? >> we're not experts in determining whether war crimes were committed. certainly we join calls for an investigation into whether war crimes were committed and those who did are held to account? thank you ry much, indeed, for joining me. >> thank you. >> from that cat sfrofkionce and potential international war
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crimes, we turn now to a local, still staggering trajectory in the united states. it's told through the story of one family and how its own history of violence and crime has been passed down through the generations. theit pr prize winner has spent the past ten yearshe following t lives of the vogel family in oregon. over a decade dozens of relatives haveso served p s me. w book is called "in my father's house," a new view of how crime runs th family and his family is riddled with criminality from root branch. i spoke to him about this exaordinary phenomenon that can encourage criminality. welcome to the haprogram. >> you very much. >> so this is an extraordinary examination that you have done. who knew that crime ran in the family?
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how did you decide to focus on this? how did you find the familyn question? >> i was covering crime and justice for the "new york times" in 15 years. i kept reading about these studies done if rect year showing that crime tends to run in the family and some of them, the proportions are incdibly strong, one is done from academics from the universes of thmbridge down in s london really from 1961 to 2001 and they found that 5% of families account h forf of all crime and there with have been very similarif studies inrent cities always coming back with s basically te findings. >> let's talk abo how you focus on this family and that there are dozens of criminals in
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that one family. tell me about the family. >> i found the family reallily happenstance. a family worked in the oregon department of corrections in the oregis's s mentioned to me he knew of a white family that had what he thought were six members in prison. he said if i come out to oregon, i was living on the eastt. co i could interview members in rk times" the "new agreed to let me do that and but what we didn't knowt at time was it wasn't six members of the family who were in prison. it's 60. m bers of the family who had been at one time or another in prison. the first of the members of t s family the name is bogle. i met tracy bogle serving a 16-year prison sentence. he said what you are raised with, you grow to become. there is nocape.
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and that for me is at the heart of it. itca imitation. e the members of this family when they grew up, their fathers and their mothers would take them out to commit crimes with them. ey saw themselves as a crime family and thought it gave them great honor. >> let me dig down, you mentioned his precise quote in a book, if i had been raised in a family of the i'd probably be a doctor. but i was raised in a family of outlaws who hated the law. so that's kind of what you say i was raised to be a criminal. what i thinks reall interesting is one of the issue you you talk about, taking children to visit relatives in prison or jamie basically normalizes or glamorizes the experience. i will quote from your book, no one recognized at the time as some criminal oelgszs did later, taking the child tor visitors o the father in prison could be endangering the child, making him think that lifri inn is
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normal or even glamorous. not dangerous and frightening. and you say that millions of kids have a parent in jail >> yes, we have something like 5 million children in the united states who have a parent in prison. it's an extraordinary number. there has been a lot of effort by very well meaning people to get the children to vreit their s on a regular basis to try to keep the family toke. but it's a very open question whether that doesn't do the reverse of what it's meant to do. >> that it does normalize the experience of going to prison tand the kids wheny go to visit their fathers in prison are impressed by how tough and strong their fathers appear. >> so you mentioned that figure. it's more than half of all in tes in the united states are parents. so that means so many millions of kids have parents in prison. you know, many sociologist and experts and child protection officers believe thatt's next
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and a lack of love that causes kids to go off the deep ends in whichever way, including in crime. but your book is saying in a way almost the opposite. it's loved by their parents. it's care by their parents. only on the wrongractory that's causing these kids to want to imitate them? >> yes, it sort of perverts the mean of family values. we tend to assume family values n n be good. but family values bad, too. >> you described in your book in detail how some of the people you talk to -- they came to crime -- or we could remember only one christm when his father gave him a present. a heavy metal wrenchern a p
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back with no explanation. all right, fox, continue the story. >> so bee by was surprised when he was presented this present of a wrench in a brown paper bag the night before christmas. because he didn't know exactly s what it for. he was only four-years-old, but he did know that from conversation around the dinner ble that his father had been in prison in texas and took eat pride in theact he had a criminal record and he had been in prison for a big burglary. so bobby figured out it was a rglar's tool, next day, they snuck out early in the morning on christmas day and went to the loyal grery store. in the back, they were able to use the wrench to open aic cabl was filled with coca-cola bottles. and they grabbed a whole lot of
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the coca-cola bottles, took so c home to haveistmas celebration. bob by g home, he said, yes, that's my son's. y had very proud that t broken into the store. if they had gotten caught, his father would have taken out a belt or a switch and booetd beaten them on their legs or backs. he says, crime is okay as long as you get away with it. >> except as you say in this family, 66 members are in ison. is the father in prison? is bobby in prison? what happened to them? >> the father passed away years ago from cancer, but bby is still in prison, tracy is still in prison. there are atst five members still in prison. three are on eape status. they've broken out of custody and i believe the states where they are don't want to find them, it's too available to happening on to them.
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>> so what is the solution? again people believe our family values ethic makes us want to keep families together. you have been to prison, when you come out, let's owl get back together again and rebilt build and reknit t family. you are suggesting the opposite may be a better way to stop recidivism? >> there are interesting programs, one found if inmates can be persuaded to move somewhere else than hometh that 're much better off. so the state of maryland have a program they will give inmates housing vouchers, if they agree to not come back to the city of baltimore but move somewhere else in the state and these men are having much lower
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re-arrests. that's a helpful program. there are programs developed to bring therapy to a whole family. if a judge orders it, a kid is getting if trouble, a team of specialists, psychologists, social workers, will go to the family's house and take up residence and treat the spire family and get to know the sisters the brothers the fathers, mothers, or grandparents if they're around and work with them all for a period of a months that program called multi-systemic therapy is having quite the success but it's a different view than keeping people in prison. >> distribute to me what you noticed about criminals arrested in the immediate after math of hurricane katrina in new orleans. that was back in 2005. >> a portion of the inmateste i the sf louisiana came from neorleans when katri in 2005
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pulverized a lot of the housingf especial poorer people, when inmates were due to be released after ka they had no place to return to and lot migratedto the neighboring state of texas and a young criminologist there at the university of texas wentse to study tpeople. and he found after one, three and five years, that they had much lower rates of committing new crimes than people that have gone back to new orleans. >> i think it's incredible. these figures speak for themselves. just another example which is fairly extreme. in witaly,re children who worked with the mafia, they were separated from their parents. explain that one for me >> there w a state prosecutor near napl, in th south of italy, who got tired of having children o mafia fathers out committing crimes because the
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mafindiscovered if the child committed the crimes, they got much less punishment. so he devised a way to basically put some of the children of these mafia parents into a kind of state witness protection program and move them away from tomheir homeshere else in italy the program moved to be very successful. s afact, italy opted it a national law, codified it. so they can do this for a lot of the children of mafia families. >> that's remarkable. tell me again about the bogle family. are there any individuals who have broken out of this cycle of violence? it's 100 years and one family? >> they'd be the best example. a young woman ashley broeg bogle now 25 who devoted herself tsc
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heol work. she got straight as and applied to and went to college and graduate fareed college. she's a nursing technian and she's got her own iapartment and car, as a single mum, she's raising a 3-year-old daughter, oddl enough, every day in her commute from her home to her job to her hospital, she has to pass right by a big prison where one of her cousins is still incarcerated. the previous study you did, you wrote a previous book, you profiled a black family who multiple generations had criminality. what made you? what was the reaction to that? was there any tinge of racism that you were concerned about and what made you then -- the t?elgs who have just been talking ab >> when i wrote the book about
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the black family, which had three generations or four generations of murderers. i was concerned that i would be charge as a racist. but that never happened, in fact. because i traced the sort of the history or origins of murder in the united states to white southern slave ontarioers. ing aens brought saves were brought to the south and became americanized as southerners. they pickled out the slave owners that the people that worked with legislative assembly of ontarios around them, responding with force to insults was a common every day thing, in fact, in addition to duals, which was something the upper class could participate in, a lot of the lower class people of the south had a game called
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wrestling, raling, was to bite off their nose or gouge out theiryes or bite off their fingers. there were lots of white southerners iethe south in 17th and 18thentury who had the marks of missing fingers or gouged out eyes, ears, or noses. >> so, fox, doesn't this have a potey huge potentially game changing effect in how you view prisoners and the act of imprisonment here in the united states? first of all, the u.s. the most incarcerating country in the world and young black men areer represented in the prison population ithe united states. but if you are saying in this study a lot of the crime can be traced back to what they've learned from slave owners and plantation owners. i don't know, is there something to be learned on a macrolevel
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from that when it comes to ng crime or dealing with incarceration in this country? >> one of the par ro dockss here is that the united states, you are right, does have the highest rate of incarceration of any country in the world by far. blacks are very over represented in our prisons but the majority of crime is sti committed by whites in the united states and at's a paradoxoe which't get discussed very often. >> did you account for they say?s you say the bogles, there was a strain of bipolar disorder and there was extreme poverty, were those, did you takehat into account? could they account for the criminality? >>oo those are some questions and some tough once. i think with yes, it's true the boeingments had a good deal
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of mental illness, diagnosed schizophrenia, manic depressive, bipolar disorder at least half a dozen members were diagnosed with c thoseditions. so that's a problem. e don't know enough about how to treat people both mentally ill and prone to committing crime. that's a very hard one. we in fact in the united states a large proportion in our jails and prisons are ofteng suffer from mental illness, maybes as high or 35%. >> that's a huge number. finally, you do follow up on soof the girls who you just described to me have broken out of the cycle, lik ashley, for instance. i'm just wondering what drew you to following up? how is she doing now? and what even drew you apart from your reporting for the "new york times," what drew you to ick with this phenomenon of
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crime and familys? >> i think perhaps in the first book i did aut the black family and reading all of these studies whic have been done in recent years showingt t statistically crime tends to run in families. i wanted to find a bite family and take race out of the equation to see if there was something that crime was not about race. because an awful lot of americans ten to assume if people are black that they're more likely to become criminals. so i was hoping to find a white famih a large number of inmates to show that this has nothing to do with race at all. >> ashley, you keep up with her? >> yes, we stay in touch every few weeks, we talk. and i keep watching to see, but has really not been in any trouble.
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she's wonderful person and there are some other members of the family. she has a cousin tammy bogle who ran a sort of a halfway house for prisoners coming out of the state prisons, who werevi c as sex offenders. she found her savl salvation through religion, being a devout christian. >> amazing. thank you so much, indeed. >> and tnk you so much. >> it really is quite a stunning phenom' noen in society. one authorities are pouring over. now our next gue ercame her own humble beginnings to change the lives of others for the bitter. johanna haze growing up poverty and violence, she got pregnant at 17. but her school and her family helped and supported her to pursue her educatio she rose to become american teacher of the year in 2016.ne
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he goal is no less ambitious, she's the first black congress woman in new england. she told our michel martin about her amazing story. >> tell us a little about your story for people that aren't familiar with it. >> i think my story changes the lens through which i view the world. i grew up if public housing.gr my dmother raised my brother and i, other people in my family struggled with substance abuse. it was a part of our life, a part of our community. we didn't have that much. expected was i got pregnant with my daughter in high school, had to go to an alternative program at 17. but my mom had me 17. her grandmother had her at 17. just not a lot of hope in that >>situation. id it seem normal to you? >> it definitely seemed normal and i feel as i got older and was exposed to more people,
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there were different ways of being and doing, just took advantage of eve opportunity i had to interact with people who were not similarly >>situated. was going to ask you about. that you got your masters, your chelors, your certification. kudos. i was wondering, h it is or why you think you were able toe going when a lot of other people with the same circumstances haven't.k what do you th it is that kept you going? >> first of all, i know i didn't want that situation for my daughter. i knew i wanted something it was so important to me to at least try. therwere many times whe i didn't expect to succeed. but i knew i had to just try. i thi it was more for my daughter than for me. >> how did i work at that age when you were 17? you never dropped out of school as >> i went to an alternative
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program. >> h'd you manage o that? >> well, i had an incredible support of mily. grandmother, my aunt. my mother eventually. but just didn't really o torstand why i wanted to g school so badly but were willing to help me do whatever they could do. when i went to community college, i worked nights. i worked third shift. grandmother came to my house, stayed with -- i had twoe children at me. in the morning i went to school full time. just my family. people at my church were incredibly supportive. though they knew it was important to me, so it was important to the >> tell me about your teaching career. whatyo dteach and? >> my teaching career was 13 years at kennedy high school,h wh one of the high schools in the same think where i grew up. i taught u.s. history, world
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history. comparative government and geography, sivengs and the constitution and i created an african-american history course in my school. >> why did you want to become a acher? . >> i think i was born to be a teacher nim there waser a moment i decided i wanted to be a teacher. washat kid in schoolha lined up dolls, always did that. i put such a high value on the work that teachers did. all the teachers that i had teteracted with or most of the teachers that i cted with ofession and loved what adid. it's who i thought i was supposed to be. >> tell me about being even toer of the year.ke what was that did you get a crown? a crystal apple.. >> wonderful. >> i was named the teacher of the year, first at my school then in my distrias. i selected as the teacher of the yearwaterbury never had a state teacher of the year a
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there's application and it's a e long p and one person is selected. >> p joanna,lease join me to accept this wheld for crystal apple as the national teacher of the year. >> that's the video that everyone sees at your ceremony where obama famed me teacher of the year. but i think what people don't re realize. well, for two reasons. well, one of those reasons i, m ughter was in the audience. so my famy w there and just the journey from being her mom to -- i was theer firstn in my family to finish cleevenlg my daughter went i on to college the space of eight years, we went from no college graduates to a second college educated family. my daughter was sobbing. i was there as her mother honored ae height of my
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ofession, which is unbelievable. as a black woman, it was just a tremendous, tremendous honor because i said this before, there are only five african-americans on thatst age, three were me the president and the secretary of ieducation. as saying, you know, excellence happens in these communities. >> so why did you decide to run for congress?ha did yo like eureka moment? were you backing groceries? >> i did have a you're iraq ka moment. i was teacher of the year during the transition of the two secraries of education and the incoming secretary. the first time we were in a room toke. she made a comment that she wanted to move government sut of the wa parents could make the decision for their children. i remember just thinking, who would have spoken for me? you know, i didn't have a parent that could do that. i didn't have a family who knew
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how to advocate for me. i was thinking, isn't tha your job to make sure education works, kids can go to anyin schl his country and they're good schools. >> what do you think you add that isn't already theren congress? >> i think what i add or teachers add is just that we have this tremendous ability to collaborate. you don't pick and choose who iy r classroom. whoever is there is your student and you work hard for them. the thing i add, and so many teachers, what i heard isll you know is education. it's not a single topic. whenids comen my class you hear when mom lost her job or i have to change schools because we're moving because we lostho r e or one of my parents is inkaurs rated or my grandmother didn't get a visa. i can't plasports, i didn't get a physical. i don't have health insurance. so we see directly how every single one of these policies impacts communities. so when people talk about dollars and cents in the
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economy, we have thetories of families playing in our head, because we know how families are being affected. and i think that there is this addelayer of empathy that comes along with my profession that forces to you see beyond partisanship and you know simple dollars and cents and policy and how does this affect ople? >> in an article in the huffington post a few weeks ago says public educators are running for office this year. why do you think that ? >> waw that as a profession we're being held responsible for so many policies that we had no part in drafting. or ing a part of. when i was teacher of the year, oftentimes i traveled to different states or would be in different rooms talking about education policy. i was the only educator or teacher in the room. i think we sawn what happened i oklahoma, in west virginia, in
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washington state where teachers came together and said, we have to speak up for our profession. >>eacher strikes and protests? >> we have help people understand what it is that we do. and i think it just c te to point we can't wait for anyone else to do that for. >> there have been famous movies about the new comer w goes to washington and wants to do things differently. there is always the moment when reality hits. i think when you think about going to washington, having washington change you more than you change washington? >> i'm not naive to that. i think i've had so many challenges that could have and sometimes should have left me angry or discouraged or disappointed. ilways chose an alternative group. it's worked. i seen it work in the lives of hundreds if not thousandsf youn people.
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one of the things i say all the time is hope is a strategy. >> let's say the democrats take the house back. what's your priority? >> my heart is in education. so i really think that we need to take some lon hard looks at the direction we're going ined ation. i think we're looking at edation and the failures in education, but so much has been on rypost-secon education and success through that trap. we haven't done enoh with career readiness with preparing a talented work force for the next generation of jobs available, celebrating working. showing can idz that there are multipwa pa to success. we talkbout free college and moving in direction. what about careertraining? so many young people don't enjoy school. that's what it in. they don't success. they don't feel valued. we have to start to look at what are the jobs of the future and are we adequately preparing this
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generation, you know, for the job of t next 50 years? clean energy jobs, you know, precision manufacturing, health care, all of those things we have jobs in connecticut that remain unfilled and students graduating at a much higherate and not going to cleevenlg really bridging the gap on those two things. >> is there anyway you find someone cause with the president trump administration, some policies are in alignment with they do believe in career training and de-emphasizing college as the main choice for most people. are tre any policies of the trump administration that you actually do support? >> i think any policy would benefit my community. i don't care who the author is. on that, my main concern is not privatizing those opportunities. not removing the equitable h access, wr charter school, choice, i recognize for so many
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people the schooln their corner is their only chose. so making sure that all of those options to everybody is v important to me. i think health care is another big issue in our district a lot of people are very concerned abo their insurance benefits, social security, all of these things, making sewer that the people in my community are not disproportionately affected. the environment. the hollowing out of the e. it's troubling for the people in connecticut. we have some of the mos beautiful landscapes and natural resources. we also have manufacturing communities from 50 years ago who rely on agencies to regulate what goes into the ground. the remediation of these buildings. that's real. these things are happening. >> if elected you would be the first african-american woman from new enghand does mean
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anything to you? >> democrats have never sent a person of color to congress period. i never even thought about that. but i can tell you the first time i read it in print, it was painful to me. t i knt's not the state i live n. i know in connecticut, i benefit from opportunities. there have been amazing people who are not minorities thatave helped me so this idea that we've never sent a representative and then there was criticism it's identity politics. i can't take this stin off. this is who i am. my exp iences are frame through the skin. all i'm saying is all of these experiences a important and they matter. but i know for so many people, not just in theme africancan people, but for so many people who have never seen themselves represented, it is so incrediy powerful, because you begin to imagine that maybe it's possibleo >> thank youuch for talking with us. >> thank you. thank you so mum for having me here.
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thanks. >> thank you. >> andohna hayes is one of the record number of women in the class of 2018 w will appear on election ballots november mid-term j andn us next week for our interview with the british icon and legend of the silver screen michael cane. >> 3, 2, 1. g go. >> you're only supposed to low the bloody doors off! h . s famous for some of our most celebrated movies, such as "zulu," "the italian job," and "get rt." why he started acting as a young boy and succeeded despite thay act sent. when you first went to be an
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actor at thesearious youth clubs in your youth. >> yes. yes. >> you were looking through the windows, you thought, that looks kind of nice.yo described yourself as a geeky awkward kind of teen. >> ye, iwas. >> maybe that was the first place to go and get your first s.n is? >> i i was in a youth club. i used to go upstairs to play basketball on the roof and i always passed this door with two glass windows. i realized it was full of the prettiest girls in the club. so i used to look through and i wonder what they're doing. they'd always be looking talking to each otherll tha i wonder what's going on in the. one day ell through the door and leaned in. they that i had come to joinas i about 12, 13, 14 aroun there was a girl there that i wanted to kiss. you know the woman that ran the club said come in, we haven't got any men. there are no men in here.
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so i said, all right. we get a love scene. i said, ork, i'lljoin. that was the reason i became an actor. unfortunately. nthat's how i became a amateur actornd went on in my life to do something i loved. because i loved acting once i started doing. it that was one of the lucky things for me is to be able to do a job that i would do for nothing and got paid for it. >> michael caine's first drama class. that's it for us. join us again next time [ music playing ]
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tonight on kqed "newsroom," with less than th weeks to go to the november elections a look at key california congressional races and how silicon valley ise being t by the saudi crisis. plus we'll hear from state senator kevin de leon, the man trying to win dianne feinstein's seats in the senate.og and the photapher who brought us an intimide view of pent ama's whitehouse, his visual commentaries on president trump, has made him an instagram star. hello and welcome to kqed "newsroom." i'm thuy vu. we begin tonight with politics. round the state some high-stakes congressional races are turning nasty. in san diego county republican representative duncan hunter'as campaign h sought to portray his opponent as a muslimro terst. meanwhile, in the central valley represent stiff devin ns
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