hello, everyone, welcome to "amanpour and company." here's what's coming up. the shocking story of journalist jamal cash oak, condemnation of the saudi prince mohammed bin salman continues. we look at what mbs' war in yemen backed by the united nations -- occupation. then the pulitzer winner journalist buzz water feed, his prize is passed down through families. plus, could we be looking at connecticut's first black democrat in congress? johanna hayes speaks to our

michel martin about her remarkable journey from high school teacher to mid-term contender. [ music playing ]

welcome to the program, etch, i'm christiane amanpour in london. the disappearance of jamal khashoggi has been become emblematic of the shifting power in saudi arabia the accumulation of authority has been ruthless and his foreign policy has been unusually you a audacious. they have been fighting hewitou rebels also known as the forgotten or silent war the saudis have been accused of hiding a conflict while the kingdom's allies the kungs u united states are on mounting criticism for supplying the saudis are powerful weapons, it's heart wrenching and some of the images may be disturbing to some viewers. yemen now faces the worst famine in a century, according to

united states which says it is entirely man made, thousands are displaced. the country is teetering on a third cholera outbreak. we have the latest on the conflict as the casualties continue to mount with no end game in sight. >> another day in yemen's bloody war. this exclusive footage was sent to cnn by the houthi media showing the after math by saudi led coalition plane on saturday. local officials say 19 men, women and children were killed as they attempted to knee the yemeni port. the site of an existential struggle of a u.s.-backed coalition and the houthi rebels. as ever in war the victims are too often nngs cause in the cross fire. as scrutiny grows around allegation that the saudi crown prince's involvement in the

journalist jamal cash oak, criticism is growing around and other great recklessness. the three-year long war in yemen. today the world food program tells cnn the number of yemenis facing famine could rise to nearly 12 million, making it the worst famine for a century and one that is entirely man made the fighting in the incessant saudi-led bombardment created a perfect storms one that leads the party to their international backers with blood on their hands. in the u.s., the drum beat of criticism among lawmakers is growing across the political aisle. >> one of the strong things we can do is not only stop military sales, not only put sanctions on saudi arabia, but most importantly, get out of this terrible, terrible war in yemen led by the saudis. >> reporter: in spite of the

president's avowed support for saudi arabia, including rather large arm sales. >> i would not be in favor of stopping a country from spending $110 billion, with i is an all time record. >> reporter: here in yemen, they're hoping all the talk will finally result in action. cnn, london. >> when you heard that figure of 12 million people under the threat of famine, if that wasn't terrible enough, though, by the end of this week, aid agencies are now saying the number was an underestimate and they have increased that to 14 million people facing imminent famine. >> that is roughly half of yemen's population. so could the international fallout from the khashoggi crisis have any impact on this brutal conflict? the international rescue committee joins me. welcome. >> thank you. >> do you -- would you in the human rights committee, the

refugee committee, like to see that fallout? like to see in this terrible murder of our colleague actually highlight and bring some action on something that's been going on for much, much longer? >> well, i do see the depth of khashoggi as a tragedy, of course. but we need to put it in the context as you rightly pointed out, 14 million people at risk of starvation and that includes millions of children. so if we can see the same level of attention that media takes to this tragic death of a journalist applied equally to 14 million people who are very much at risk in the coming months, then that is i think a moral victory. >> so the emir has been doing his best to go there when it can. it's very, very difficult. you have to get permissions from all over the place, known to be the saudi coalition. it's not just the media, obviously, is it? you talk about the british government is selling articles. the u.s. government is selling articles. what does the international rescue committee sa i to

governments who are selling arms right now? >> well, there's two sides to this problem the first you correctly point out are huge arm sales to saudi arabia. it's not the sales, themselves, that are resulting in civilian deaths and the deaths of children in yemen. it's what's being done with those weapons. our point is governments who have influence, either through arms sales or other ways through the saudi-led coalition should call upon all those who have conducted 18,000 airstrikes since 2015 to stop bombing civilians and humanitarian aid workers. until that happens, we can't get aid in. people can't go out and get food and tragic scenes have you shown will replace maybe as many as 14 million times. >> it was a shock when we heard that that many people face very, very imminent disaster. we are told by the u.n., the oil food program, that they have enough cereals maybe to last another two months. from your experience from the

irc and the human rights community and the aid community, what happens when cereals and that kind of meager food runs out in two months? is from a pipeline you can easily resupply? what happened? >> cereals and food supplies exist in the world. the supplies are there. we can always dos with more. but the access isn't. the port is normally opened but, fact, they're not allowing large containerships. so it's like a stranglehold of food. and this port is meant to supply 70% of what yemen needs. so at the moment its supplies can't get out. people can't get to the supplies so we are watching a tragedy that is preventible both through a cessation of airstrikes and opening up ports. >> when you say they are not letting it, who? >> at the moment, our call is on the saudi-led coalition to allow aid to get in through a united port. it's calling on both sides, at

the moment through a series of checkpoints, permission slips, et cetera, they're effectively creating barriers to the most vulnerable. our risk is changing towards besiegement, as we've seen in syria and other places, this is where civilians get caught up in a military tactic. it's a very sad thing, but one i've seen in many conflicts. >> part of your history and your experience has been with the british army. you spent many years as an officer. so give us your military analysis of what you just described as siege tactics, as squeezing these populations, as we've seen over and over in syria, it was a siege and starve and surrender tactic. wasn't it? >> many times in conflicts, these tactics are os stenably used to reduce the number of casualties on both sides. when civilians are caught in the middle of that besiegement, what ends up happening is they have

settlement tactics used as a part of a war effort. what we are see income yemen is there are 300,000 civilians who are not getting access to food as much as they should and there are many other pockets like this. the result is that particularly children under 5 are deteriorating much more quickly. that's why we focus on that age group. ki only imagine having seen this in other conflicts, what it feels like the first time your child cries, because they don't have enough food. we all notice it is apparent. watching it over the weeks and days of a child not getting enough calories and slowly wasting away, that's what's happening. it all originates with tactics that are designed to help combatants and not think about this. >> you know, i've seen reports, photo journalist reports where they've found a child that's 8-years-old but looks like 2-years-old, completely scrawny, completely on the brink of just literally skin and bones. then visiting that same family

the same child six months to a year later after there have been supplies of food. certainly that child is alive again. but with crucial, crucial damage to their mental facilities and to their stunting, actually, of their growth. >> yes, i've seen exactly that in east african famine, where, firstly, i've seen children crying because they didn't understand that their legs didn't work. they didn't understand they were malnourished. slowly recovering. day-by-day the damage can't be fixed the way their physical strength can be restored through treatment. >> i've seen this visibly and rapidly demonstrated by our colleagues from yemen. so when you look at this now, what is the big challenge apart from the access, obviously, that you said, what does the irc see as its strategy, it's plan, militarily? i'm asking you for your military analysis first. do you see an exit vaj? do you see anyway that either

side can be brought to the table to stop this? >> well, that's our hope as humanitarians that both sides will be willing to talk. we've known with previous peace talks that one or either side is not willing to engage. we hope that particularly with the political pressure and the attention on saudi-led coalition, that and that side can be persuaded to end this conflict through negotiation and equally that the houthi militias also do the same. with calling around for the humanitarians to reach all civilians in need as well as truly opening the port to allow sufficient aid to get in. >> so is that a cease-fire or particularly humanitarian corridors to let those convoys go through? >> well, things are so desperate we will take anything, including a cease-fire or humanitarian access. ultimately, these are stop gap solutions, as is all aid. the reality is the only way we

bring a full solution is through peace and the restoration of full access to yemen for commercial trade as well as paying people their salaries. because at the moment, we're helping a lot of families that can support themselves if the government was paying salaries. >> are you the international rescue committee. can these people get out? can they flee this disaster? >> it's very difficult for many people to flee. partly because of a patchwork control between the two sides, also, where would you flee to? in that part of the world, there aren't many places, in fact, what we are seeing is the people are trying to cope with whatever reserves they hold on to. that's why you are seeing this concentration of nourishment, the cholera ep dim e depidemic. they're into the becoming refugeeles. the problem is contained within yemen. >> so let's talk about the bigger refugee issue, because there are very ugly narratives that seem to be, you know, taking most of the oxygen in the

public sphere about refugees and about immigrants and i know the irc and others in the same community, you know, trying to get a different narrative out about refugees. it seems to me that you're failing and the political leaders are winning. those who want to use this issue for their own political end. what do you need to do to -- and what should people understand about refugees in syria or yemen and, indeed, when they come to europe? >> i think you are using exactly the right words. refugees. i think sometimes we tend to use two different words, mike grants and refugees might be the same thing. you can be an economic migrants who is leaving a country looking for a job elsewhere and a better life. but a refugee has a real fear of persecution, starvation and in this case in yemen, a combination of all of these things, so they are truly vulnerable and truly at risk and many of them if they can will look to flee their country and we deserve, we should be aplying

a different standard in terms of compassion and understanding. sadly, i think the narrative is to assume the worst intent in people. that's the change i've seen over the course of my career. >> look alt what's happening in germany, for instance, whatever it might be, some neo-nazi tendencies are using this, including untruths about refugees. what have you -- what would you like to tell a public audience about, let's say, crime in joseph cornelius in refugee areas, where they've let refugees in or assimilation of these people? >> i would say, firstly, the association between refugees and crime is entirely wrong remember it's your character that determines if you will be a criminal, not your immigration status. so when you associate a refugee with a crime, it's a really lazy form of thinking when, in fact, you could be of any nationality a refugee a migrant a citizen and commit a crime. many refugees are, on average, better at integrating into

societies than almost anyone else. in the u.s., we did a national survey that showed a refugee is twice as likely to repay their car loan as a citizen. it's just an example. for these countries kindly taking in refugees, engaging them, i want greating them into the economy, the way to increase your gdp and therefore benefit from this. >> what is your worst fears, if this tide of anti-refugee, anti-immigrant tide continues and you get these parties who thrive on this even more powerful, more people in their parliaments and maybe in some cases winning and being in government in. >> it's a real concern for us. and the fight in europe is between growing far right movements like this. my concern is that if we don't fight back, with a real narrative and real stories, but also real facts and data, and the narrative will be one which is inaccurate but also result in really a permanent shift in compassion and let's face it, if

we're taking fewer refugees, we're not solving the problem. we're moving it elsewhere. as we've seen with conflicts growing all over the world, these conflicts eventually will come to our shores, it's a global problem. we can't ignore it and pretend like it can be stopped at our borders. it doesn't work that way. >> i'm circleing back to what is the world's worse crisis? yemen. what is it like? do you actually engage with saudi authorities? the head of the irc a former british head, very well known, very well respected around the world. he brings you know heft to this fog. he can talk to them as equals, so to speak. do you engage them? do you talk about this with civilians? >> well the thing is we'll talk to anyone about anything that we can get done that will help people and we don't take favor,

so in any conincome we're talking to all sides the problem is i think both sides feel they can win a military victory the reality is they may or may not be able to do that. but the human cost is intolerable, as severe as anything i've seen, probably anything we've all seen since world war ii. so we need to get people out of the all or nothing position. ask them to come to a solution. ice we will see quite a few more years of suffering. >> again, to clarify, do you see this as a moment where the leadership of the irc, this current crisis over jamal khashoggi and try to persuade those who are principally responsible? you've just identified them to rethink this? >> well, our hope, personally is we will not alone, certainly, we are willing to speak up and say those who are in an ability to

reduce casualties and make the first step should be recognized. i think the khashoggi affair has thrown e shown there is a moment in time when the world's media is paying attention to this issue and we'll do everything we can to raise the case or 14 million starving people. >> what is the irc's position on moral leadership and human rights in foreign policy? you've heard and we've over and over again heard these sound bytes from president trump saying i do not want to risk 100 billion worth of saudi arm sales, ie, jobs for american people by sanctioning them, no matter what's the truth in this case? he doesn't want to do it. because he associates in those kind of terms. what is the irc's position on leadership and foreign policy in these cases? >> i find that people have more compassion than sometimes leaders are willing to give them credit for. certainly, if you look at the generosity of the american people over decades, taking the

most vulnerable, going back to jews retaking europe, that's how the irc was formed, to today, taking over 29,000 refugees a year. people have line. one of those is manufacturing is important. when the manufacturing results in weapons given to a country, that is bombing and causing human suffering in a conflict, we really need to ask ourselves, what would people really say about that? >> there have beening a sathss that some of the killings amounts for war crimes and calls for accountability. again, what is the irc's position on this and do you agree some need to be held accountable at the highest level? >> we're not experts in determining whether war crimes were committed. certainly we join calls for an investigation into whether war crimes were committed and those who did are held to account? thank you very much, indeed, for joining me. >> thank you. >> from that cat sfrofk violence

and potential international war crimes, we turn now to crime on a local, still staggering trajectory in the united states. it's told through the story of one family and how its own history of violence and crime has been passed down through the generations. the pulitzer prize winner has spent the past ten years following the lives of the vogel family in oregon. over a decade dozens of relatives have served prison time. his new book is called "in my father's house," a new view of how crime runs the family and his family is riddled with criminality from root to branch. i spoke to him about this extraordinary phenomenon that can encourage criminality. welcome to the program. >> thank you very much. >> so this is an extraordinary examination that you have done.

who knew that crime ran in the family? how did you decide to focus on this? how did you find the family in question? >> i was covering crime and justice for the "new york times" in 15 years. i kept reading about these studies done if recent years, showing that crime tends to run in the family and some of them, the proportions are incredibly strong, one is done from academics from the universes of cambridge down in south london really from 1961 to 2001 and they found that 5% of families account for half of all crime and there with have been very similar studies in different cities always coming back with basically the same findings. >> let's talk about how you focus on this family and that

there are dozens of criminals in that one family. tell me about the family. >> i found the family reallily happenstance. a family worked in the oregon department of corrections in the oregon's prisons mentioned to me he knew of a white family that had what he thought were six members in prison. he said if i come out to oregon, i was living on the east coast. i could interview members in prison and the "new york times" agreed to let me do that and but what we didn't know at that time was it wasn't six members of the family who were in prison. it's 60. 60 members of the family who had been at one time or another in prison. the first of the members of t s family the name is bogle. i met tracy bogle serving a 16-year prison sentence. he said what you are raised with, you grow to become.

there is no escape. and that for me is at the heart of it. it's imitation. because the members of this family when they grew up, their fathers and their mothers would take them out to commit crimes with them. they saw themselves as a crime family and thought it gave them great honor. >> let me dig down, you mentioned his precise quote in a book, if i had been raised in a family of the i'd probably be a doctor. but i was raised in a family of outlaws who hated the law. so that's kind of what you say i was raised to be a criminal. what i think is really interesting is one of the issue you you talk about, taking children to visit relatives in prison or jamie basically normalizes or glamorizes the experience. i will quote from your book, no one recognized at the time as some criminal oelgszs did later, taking the child to visitors or the father in prison could be

endangering the child, making him think that life in prison is normal or even glamorous. not dangerous and frightening. and you say that millions of kids have a parent in jail? >> yes, we have something like 5 million children in the united states who have a parent in prison. it's an extraordinary number. there has been a lot of effort by very well meaning people to get the children to visit their parents on a regular basis to try to keep the family toke. but it's a very open question whether that doesn't do the reverse of what it's meant to do. >> that it does normalize the experience of going to prison and the kids when they go to visit their fathers in prison are impressed by how tough and strong their fathers appear. >> so you mentioned that figure. it's more than half of all inmates in the united states are parents. so that means so many millions of kids have parents in prison. you know, many sociologist and

experts and child protection officers believe that it's next and a lack of love that causes kids to go off the deep ends in whichever way, including in crime. but your book is saying in a way almost the opposite. it's loved by their parents. it's care by their parents. only on the wrong trajectory that's causing these kids to want to imitate them? >> yes, it sort of perverts the meaning of family values. we tend to assume family values can be good. but family values can be bad, too. >> you described in your book in detail how some of the people you talk to -- they came to crime -- or we could remember only one christmas when his father gave him a present.

a heavy metal wrench in a paper back with no explanation. all right, fox, continue the story. >> so been by was surprised when he was presented this present of a wrench in a brown paper bag the night before christmas. because he didn't know exactly what it was for. he was only four-years-old, but he did know that from conversation around the dinner table that his father had been in prison in texas and took great pride in the fact he had a criminal record and he had been in prison for a big burglary. so bobby figured out it was a burglar's tool, next day, they snuck out early in the morning on christmas day and went to the loyal grocery store. in the back, they were able to use the wrench to open a cable which was filled with coca-cola bottles. and they grabbed a whole lot of

the coca-cola bottles, took some home to have a christmas celebration. bob by g home, he said, yes, that's my son's. he was very proud that they had broken into the store. if they had gotten caught, his father would have taken out a belt or a switch and booetd beaten them on their legs or backs. he says, crime is okay as long as you get away with it. >> except as you say in this family, 66 members are in prison. is the father in prison? is bobby in prison? what happened to them? >> the father passed away years ago from cancer, but bobby is still in prison, tracy is still in prison. there are at least five members still in prison. three are on escape status. they've broken out of custody and i believe the states where they are don't want to find

them, it's too available to happening on to them. >> so what is the solution? again people believe our family values ethic makes us want to keep families together. you have been to prison, when you come out, let's owl get back together again and rebilt build and reknit the family. you are suggesting the opposite may be a better way to stop recidivism? >> there are interesting programs, one found if inmates can be persuaded to move somewhere else than home that they're much better off. so the state of maryland have a program they will give inmates housing vouchers, if they agree to not come back to the city of baltimore but move somewhere else in the state and these men

are having much lower re-arrests. that's a helpful program. there are programs developed to bring therapy to a whole family. if a judge orders it, a kid is getting if trouble, a team of specialists, psychologists, social workers, will go to the family's house and take up residence and treat the spire family and get to know the sisters the brothers the fathers, mothers, or grandparents if they're around and work with them all for a period of months and that program called multi-systemic therapy is having quite the success but it's a different view than keeping people in prison. >> distribute to me what you noticed about criminals arrested in the immediate after math of hurricane katrina in new orleans. that was back in 2005. >> a portion of the inmates in the state of louisiana came from

new orleans when katrina in 2005 pulverized a lot of the housing. especially for poorer people, when inmates were due to be released after katrina, they had no place to return to and a lot migratedto the neighboring state of texas and a young criminologist there at the university of texas went to study these people. and he found after one, three and five years, that they had much lower rates of committing new crimes than people that have gone back to new orleans. >> i think it's incredible. these figures speak for themselves. just another example which is fairly extreme. in italy, where children who worked with the mafia, they were separated from their parents. explain that one for me. >> there was a state prosecutor near naples, in the south of italy, who got tired of having

children of mafia fathers out committing crimes because the mafia discovered if the children committed the crimes, they got much less punishment. so he devised a way to basically put some of the children of these mafia parents into a kind of state witness protection program and move them away from their homes somewhere else in italy the program moved to be very successful. in fact, italy opted it as a national law, codified it. so they can do this for a lot of the children of mafia families. >> that's remarkable. tell me again about the bogle family. are there any individuals who have broken out of this cycle of violence? it's 100 years and one family? >> they'd be the best example. a young woman ashley broeg bogle

now 25 who devoted herself to her school work. she got straight as and applied to and went to college and graduate fareed college. she's a nursing technician and she's got her own iapartment and car, as a single mum, she's raising a 3-year-old daughter, oddly enough, every day in her commute from her home to her job to her hospital, she has to pass right by a big prison where one of her cousins is still incarcerated. >> the previous study you did, you wrote a previous book, you profiled a black family who multiple generations had criminality. what made you? what was the reaction to that? was there any tinge of racism that you were concerned about and what made you then -- the boelgs who have just been

talking about? >> when i wrote the book about the black family, which had three generations or four generations of murderers. i was concerned that i would be charge as a racist. but that never happened, in fact. because i traced the sort of the history or origins of murder in the united states to white southern slave ontarioers. ing aens brought as saves were brought to the south and they became americanized as southerners. they pickled out the slave owners that the people that worked with legislative assembly of ontarios around them, responding with force to insults was a common every day thing, in fact, in addition to duals, which was something the upper class could participate in, a

lot of the lower class people of the south had a game called wrestling, rassling, was to bite off their nose or gouge out their eyes or bite off their fingers. there were lots of white southerners in the south in the 17th and 18th century who had the marks of missing fingers or gouged out eyes, ears, or noses. >> so, fox, doesn't this have a potentially huge potentially game changing effect in how you view prisoners and the act of imprisonment here in the united states? first of all, the u.s. the most incarcerating country in the world and young black men are overly represented in the prison population in the united states. but if you are saying in this study a lot of the crime can be traced back to what they've learned from slave owners and

plantation owners. i don't know, is there something to be learned on a macrolevel from that when it comes to fighting crime or dealing with incarceration in this country? >> one of the par ro dockss here is that the united states, you are right, does have the highest rate of incarceration of any country in the world by far. blacks are very over represented in our prisons but the majority of crime is still committed by whites in the united states and that's a paradox which doesn't get discussed very often. >> did you account for variables they say? you say the bogles, there was a strain of bipolar disorder and there was extreme poverty, were those, did you take that into account? could they account for the criminality? >> those are some good questions and some tough once. i think with -- yes, it's true

the boeingments had a good deal of mental illness, diagnosed schizophrenia, manic depressive, bipolar disorder at least half a dozen members were diagnosed with those conditions. so that's a problem. we don't know enough about how to treat people both mentally ill and prone to committing crime. that's a very hard one. we in fact in the united states a large proportion in our jails and prisons are often suffering from mental illness, maybe as high as 20 or 35%. >> that's a huge number. finally, you do follow up on some of the girls who you just described to me have broken out of the cycle, like ashley, for instance. i'm just wondering what drew you to following up? how is she doing now?

and what even drew you apart from your reporting for the "new york times," what drew you to stick with this phenomenon of crime and familys? >> i think perhaps in the first book i did about the black family and reading all of these studies which have been done in recent years showing that statistically crime tends to run in families. i wanted to find a bite family and take race out of the equation to see if there was something that crime was not about race. because an awful lot of americans tend to assume if people are black that they're more likely to become criminals. so i was hoping to find a white family with a large number of inmates to show that this has nothing to do with race at all. >> ashley, you keep up with her? >> yes, we stay in touch every few weeks, we talk. and i keep watching to see, but

she has really not been in any trouble. she's a wonderful person and there are some other members of the family. she has a cousin tammy bogle who ran a sort of a halfway house for prisoners coming out of the state prisons, who were convict as sex offenders. she found her savl salvation through religion, being a devout christian. >> amazing. thank you so much, indeed. >> and thank you so much. >> it really is quite a stunning phenom' noen in society. one authorities are pouring over. now our next guest overcame her own humble beginnings to change the lives of others for the bitter. johanna haze growing up amid poverty and violence, she got pregnant at 17. but her school and her family helped and supported her to pursue her education.

she rose to become american teacher of the year in 2016. her next goal is no less ambitious, she's the first black congress woman in new england. she told our michel martin about her amazing story. >> tell us a little about your story for people that aren't familiar with it. >> i think my story changes the lens through which i view the world. i grew up if public housing. my grandmother raised my brother and i, other people in my family struggled with substance abuse. it was a part of our life, a part of our community. we didn't have that much. not much was expected. i got pregnant with my daughter in high school, had to go to an alternative program at 17. but my mom had me at 17. her grandmother had her at 17. so just not a lot of hope in that situation. >> did it seem normal to you? >> it definitely seemed normal and i feel as i got older and

was exposed to more people, there were different ways of being and doing, just took advantage of every opportunity i had to interact with people who were not similarly situated. >> i was going to ask you about. that you got your masters, your bachelors, your certification. kudos. i was wondering, how it is or why you think you were able to keep going when a lot of other people with the same circumstances haven't. what do you think it is that kept you going? >> first of all, i know i didn't want that situation for my daughter. i knew i wanted something different. it was so important to me to at least try. there were many times where i didn't expect to succeed. but i knew i had to just try. i think it was more for my daughter than for me. >> how did it work at that age when you were 17? you never dropped out of school

as i understand it. >> i went to an alternative program. >> how'd you manage owl that? >> well, i had an incredible support of family. my grandmother, my aunt. my mother eventually. but just didn't really understand why i wanted to go to school so badly but were willing to help me do whatever they could do. when i went to community college, i worked nights. i worked third shift. my grandmother came to my house, stayed with -- i had two children at the time. in the morning i went to school full time. just my phfamily. people at my church were incredibly supportive. though they knew it was important to me, so it was important to the them. >> tell me about your teaching career. what do you teach and? >> my teaching career was 13 years at kennedy high school, which is one of the high schools in the same think where i grew

up. i taught u.s. history, world history. comparative government and geography, sivengs and the constitution and i created an african-american history course in my school. >> why did you want to become a teacher? . >> i think i was born to be a teacher him there was never a moment i decided i wanted to be a teacher. i was that kid in school that lined up dolls, always did that. i put such a high value on the work that teachers did. all the teachers that i had interacted with or most of the teachers that i interacted with ofession and loved what adid. it's who i thought i was supposed to be. >> tell me about being even toer of the year. what was that like? did you get a crown? a crystal apple.. >> wonderful. >> i was named the teacher of the year, first at my school then in my district. i was selected as the teacher of the year, waterbury never had a

state teacher of the year and there's application and it's a long process and one person is selected. >> joanna, please join me to accept this world for the crystal apple as the national teacher of the year. >> that's the video that everyone sees at your ceremony where obama famed me teacher of the year. but i think what people don't re realize. well, for two reasons. well, one of those reasons i, my daughter was in the audience. so my family was there and just the journey from being her mom to -- i was the first person in my family to finish cleevenlg my daughter went on to college in the space of eight years, we went from no college graduates to a second college educated family. my daughter was sobbing.

i was there as her mother honored ae height of my profession, which is unbelievable. as a black woman, it was just a tremendous, tremendous honor because i said this before, there are only five african-americans on that stage, three were me the president and the secretary of education. i was saying, you know, excellence happens in these communities. >> so why did you decide to run for congress? did you have like eureka moment? were you backing groceries? >> i did have a you're iraq ka moment. i was teacher of the year during the transition of the two secretaries of education and the incoming secretary. the first time we were in a room toke. she made a comment that she wanted to move government out of the way so parents could make the decision for their children. i remember just thinking, who would have spoken for me? you know, i didn't have a parent

that could do that. i didn't have a family who knew how to advocate for me. i was thinking, isn't that your job to make sure education works, kids can go to any school in this country and they're good schools. >> what do you think you add that isn't already there in congress? >> i think what i add or teachers add is just that we have this tremendous ability to collaborate. you don't pick and choose who is in your classroom. whoever is there is your student and you work hard for them. the thing i add, and so many teachers, what i heard is all you know is education. it's not a single topic. when kids come in my class you hear when mom lost her job or i have to change schools because we're moving because we lost our house or one of my parents is inkaurs rated or my grandmother didn't get a visa. i can't play sports, i didn't get a physical. i don't have health insurance. so we see directly how every single one of these policies

impacts communities. so when people talk about dollars and cents in the economy, we have the stories of families playing in our head, because we know how families are being affected. and i think that there is this added layer of empathy that comes along with my profession that forces to you see beyond partisanship and you know simple dollars and cents and policy and how does this affect people? >> in an article in the huffington post a few weeks ago says public educators are running for office this year. why do you think that is? >> we saw that as a profession we're being held responsible for so many policies that we had no part in drafting. or being a part of. when i was teacher of the year, oftentimes i traveled to different states or would be in different rooms talking about education policy. i was the only educator or teacher in the room. i think we saw what happened in

oklahoma, in west virginia, in washington state where teachers came together and said, we have to speak up for our profession. >> teacher strikes and protests? >> we have help people understand what it is that we do. and i think it just came to the point we can't wait for anyone else to do that for us. >> there have been famous movies about the new comer who goes to washington and wants to do things differently. there is always the moment when reality hits. i think when you think about going to washington, having washington change you more than you change washington? >> i'm not naive to that. i think i've had so many challenges that could have and sometimes should have left me angry or discouraged or disappointed. i always chose an alternative group. it's worked. i seen it work in the lives of hundreds if not thousands of

young people. one of the things i say all the time is hope is a strategy. >> let's say the democrats take the house back. what's your priority? >> my heart is in education. so i really think that we need to take some long hard looks at the direction we're going in education. i think we're looking at education and the failures in education, but so much has been on post-secondary education and success through that trap. we haven't done enough with career readiness with preparing a talented work force for the next generation of jobs available, celebrating working. showing can idz that there are multiple pathways to success. we talk about free college and moving in direction. what about career training? so many young people don't enjoy school. that's what it is. they don't find success. they don't feel valued.

we have to start to look at what are the jobs of the future and are we adequately preparing this generation, you know, for the job of the next 50 years? clean energy jobs, you know, precision manufacturing, health care, all of those things we have jobs in connecticut that remain unfilled and students graduating at a much higher rate and not going to cleevenlg really bridging the gap on those two things. >> is there anyway you find someone cause with the president trump administration, some policies are in alignment with that, they do believe in career training and de-emphasizing college as the main choice for most people. are there any policies of the trump administration that you actually do support? >> i think any policy would benefit my community. i don't care who the author is. on that, my main concern is not privatizing those opportunities. not removing the equitable

access, we hear charter school, choice, i recognize for so many people the school on their corner is their only chose. so making sure that all of those options to everybody is very important to me. i think health care is another big issue in our district. a lot of people are very concerned about their insurance benefits, social security, all of these things, making sewer that the people in my community are not disproportionately affected. the environment. the hollowing out of the e. it's troubling for the people in connecticut. we have some of the most beautiful landscapes and natural resources. we also have manufacturing communities from 50 years ago who rely on agencies to regulate what goes into the ground. the remediation of these buildings. that's real. these things are happening.

>> if elected you would be the first african-american woman from new england does that mean anything to you? >> democrats have never sent a person of color to congress period. i never even thought about that. but i can tell you the first time i read it in print, it was painful to me. i know that's not the state i live n. i know in connecticut, i benefit from opportunities. there have been amazing people who are not minorities that have helped me so this idea that we've never sent a representative and then there was criticism it's identity politics. i can't take this stin off. this is who i am. my experiences are framed through the skin. all i'm saying is all of these experiences are important and they matter. but i know for so many people, not just in the african-american people, but for so many people who have never seen themselves represented, it is so incredibly powerful, because you begin to imagine that maybe it's possible. >> thank you so much for talking

with us. >> thank you. thank you so mum for having me here. thanks. >> thank you. >> and johanna hayes is one of the record number of women in the class of 2018 who will appear on election ballots november mid-term and join us next week for our interview with the british icon and legend of the silver screen michael cane. >> 3, 2, 1. g go. >> you're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off! . >> he's famous for some of our most celebrated movies, such as "zulu," "the italian job," and "get carter." why he started acting as a young boy and succeeded despite thay

act sent. when you first went to be an actor at these various youth clubs in your youth. >> yes. yes. >> you were looking through the windows, you thought, that looks kind of nice. you described yourself as a geeky awkward kind of teen. >> yeah, i was. >> maybe that was the first place to go and get your first can is? >> i was. i was in a youth club. i used to go upstairs to play basketball on the roof and i always passed this door with two glass windows. i realized it was full of the prettiest girls in the club. so i used to look through and i wonder what they're doing. they'd always be looking talking to each other all that. i wonder what's going on in there. one day i fell through the door and leaned in. they that i had come to join. i was about 12, 13, 14 around there was a girl there that i wanted to kiss. you know the woman that ran the club said come in, we haven't

got any men. there are no men in here. so i said, all right. we get a love scene. i said, ork, i'll join. that was the reason i became an actor. unfortunately. that's how i became an amateur actor and went on in my life to do something i loved. because i loved acting once i started doing it. that was one of the lucky things for me is to be able to do a job that i would do for nothing and i got paid for it. >> michael caine's first drama class. that's it for us. join us again next time [ music playing ]

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