she is among a diverse group of congress members shaking up capitol hill. she made lgbt rights a part of her platform in the race and won. and mounting concerns over how tech companies handl free speech and data privacy. plus a state bill to build housing near transit hubs that died in the legislature earlier chance.ar gets a second could it help alleviate california's housing crisis. hello and welcome. we begin with a newis if a of capitol hil this midterm election, democrats fought to regain a majority in the hyse b flipping republican seats in hard-won campaigns. many are young and holding

elected office for the first time, including 31-year-old democrat katie hill. she defeated steve knight in los angeles and ventura kounls. she vowed to ndle homelessness and helping out the middle class and the lgbcommunity. hill is part of a freshn ation of leaders in a new house majority. and scongrman-elect katie hill joins me now via skype from santa clarita. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. tha you for having me. >> what have the past weeks been like you since winning the election? >> it's bee a whirl win. it was aing backnd forth to d.c. we had a ton of leadership elections and getting our offices squared away. then we went for kind of bipartisan kind of trainin now it is back home. i am working a little this week and then i am going to try to

take a little bit of time off. it's been 18 months. >> i bet, you have been working ve in fact, you are one of 1 elected membersouf the new democratic caucus. congratulations on that. >> thank you so much. >> what perspective -- you are 1 years old 678ou have a background in running an organization that provides homeless services. what perspective do you bring to the caucus that you think is r lackiht now? >> sure, i think having a non-profit background, that he is poof it, t service piece of it, fulfilling the mission, helping peopleinnd of ng all the different stakeholders together to affect change in the community. that's something i think is incredibly important that i bring to the table. and it als you know, having worked on literally hundreds of different government contracts i no he the ins andt what works and what doesn't about so many of our federal services. beyond that, as a young woman,

part of this new generation of people moving intoadership positions in congress, i think that that perspective alonesos ething that has been missing. and i look forward to bringing it to the table. >> youchepresent ge. yet at the same time you have supported having nancy pelosi come back as house even before she announced this week that she would limit herself to four years in the post. in nancy pelosi and not someone new? >> i have worked on transitions and in my role in the non-profit sector. i think having someone at the helm that cn help navigate this process and realizing we arenl going to have power in the house and not in the senate and not in the presidency. 70% of us never held elected before, we need to look up to the people that have experience. >> what about you, what are the

top iorities you will be pushing come january? >> my approach to thing is we need to be as fective as possible in the pieces of pegislation that we know are going to s. within appropriations bills. within, you know, the farm bill. within -- you know, thesistpi es like transportation and infrastructure packages that we think are likely toake it beyond just the house of representative w that's whatl be looking for, different kind of angles to affect somemo kind ofment on legislation. beyond that -- >> will you bei foc primarily on thing you think you can get bipartisan appeal outf it. >> what about things that are more divisive, trying to i.c.e. or impeaching president trump. wh will you do on those pieces? >> those are not reconflictive of my district or of my views. reform of -- immigration reform, absolutely. peaching president trump i don't think is something we

should do right now since we have to have republican support for that to actually go ywhere. nstead i think we need to focus on protecting the mueller investigation and on conducting our oversight responsibilities in the congress i would say i support m sures in thdirection, but not as -- i am simply not as fareft as some people are from these districts that are totally >> president trump is threatening to shut down the u.s. government if he doesn't get funding for a border wall. we saw a tense televised oval office meeting between him and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. what's your reaction to that standoff? what does it tell you about if mood in washington right now? we ashink the stance that democrats needed to take is that we don't have the majority in any chamber. and so if there is a shutdown, it is entirely on donald trump a republicans. and once we get there, yes, we can talk about our piece of it. andif so president trump wants to get anything done, if the

republicans want to get anything done, they have to work with us and vice versa. so there will be a move toward cooperation in some capacity. et cetera not goi to be easy. there is always going to be tension. but i think so many of us who are committed to change and accomplishing things that we will see a change in tone. >> just on a lighter note here, you tweeted something pretty amusing recently related to your sition to congress. you ran into nancy pelosi last month at airport and you lamented your casual appearance. there you are with a very cute photo of yourself totally exhausted and adding that pelosi looks flawless. >> yep. >> adding sometimes you have to laugh and trust the process. a good sense of humor. >> yeah. >> now thatl thetion is over who surprised you 2 most about the process of running for office andng office? >> i actually think -- you know, since i got elected one things that surprised me the most in a really, really

positive way. >> as a freshman already working incredibly colloratively together. we are being heard by the more senior leadership members who are making an effort to change the way things have historically been done andmake sure to involve us in the process and make sure our opinions are prioritized. infers a certain sense that we were going to have to about in and fight for change but there has been an incredle receptiveness to it. it gives me optimism for the future andhe what next two years are going the look like. >> on that on theisic note, we will leave it there. congress woman-elect katie hill. congratulations again. and thank you for being with us. thank you. nowo tech. google's officer testified before the house this week.

he denied that the company compresses conservative viewpoints in google search results. similar questions are being levelled at facebook for how it handles data. meanwhile the arrest of one of china's leading executives at the reque of washington has ignited feinrs that c might retaliate. here to join us is casey newton. jeremyowens, and yia frooed. welcome to you all. i in, a. facebook unveiled a security flaw that allowed people to access photos even those that haven't been fully up loaded. when did facebook know about this? hehy are tell us just now? >> this is the biggest issue. it's bad enough that those are photos that you wanted to post.

and it includes y phot didn't want to post. they knew about it in september, and are letting people know about it in decemr. and european regulators knew aout it in november. >> it is part pattern. we hear over and over again, we had this flaw, this breach, and we don't hear about it until months later. are there any calls to fine facebook at this point or have some other kind of sanction or penalty? >> there are provisions in the european law and the consent decree with the federal trade commission that requires them to notify about data breaches. there is no law at this point that prevents companies from having data breaches but there are laws about how and why they notify people. this could come back to bite >> do we have information? are they disclosing any information on which apps had access and how these photos might have been onused? >> i think we have seen

the complete list yet. we know there were 1,500 apps from something like 850 developers. a lot of people who could have seen those photos. i will say among all the facebook data breaches this is the one i am less concerned with. when i hi about my photos it is like blurry photos, low light photos stuff i don't want a develope nto have but i am going to freak out. >> as opposed to thingsidike cam analytic, e to. i know you have been following the google hearing that happened thisweek, casey, and you wrote an article that wasth critical hearing taking to task both tech ceos and lawmakers for not doing a better j of clarifying problems about issues like data privacy. why don't youhink they are doing a good job? >> i think the sides keep talking past each other. on the lawmakers' side they often seem to fundamentally

hemisunderstand how platform works, sometimes in ways that feel intentional like they are trying to rally their base. and for their ar i think the ceos, they just try to say as little as possible. where i think they would have an opportunity to a swer of th spirit of the lawmakers' questions even if the lawmakers don't get the details exactly right. >> how can they do better? >> i would love to see the lawmakers develop basic platform literacy. for example, they could understand that google has financial incentives not to makc their s results politically bias. they want to serve as many ople as possible. that means serving the best earch results. not skewing i think this one way or another. and one patchi front he faced queions about wh google is doing in china. he said they have no plans tht launch rnow. his answers were irrelevant by the time t hearing was over.

i would love to see him give better answers. >> i would love the see lawmakers make some laws. sundar said he is okay with a gdp style regulationin the united states. we continue to have these hearings. how many have we had this year? it feels like half a dozen. >> zuckerberg, dorsey. >> in that time, they have blt consensus, privacy groups, everyone said okay here's a framework of what we would be fine with. and privacy companies and tech companies are not that far ap tt. >> we ar years into social media and mobile phones and we still haven't develed these inds of laws to address those services that have really changed how we interact with each her and how we interact with the world. >> to ina's point, do you think 2019 with the new congress in place we will see more regulation? >> it depends ifs the democra

make that a part of their platform. i feel like with all of the hearings and wth the backlash from americans that would be one that they could go for finned consensus even in the polarized times happening in congress. >> i suspect we will see it because califora passed a privacy law this year that incorporates some of the provisions that folks would like to roll out nationally. that goes into effect in 2020, which means there is kind of a ticking clock. if the tech companies can't reach a consensus by then there is going to be a patchwork of regulations all across the country. that would be a nightmare for them. >> the problem with the california law is they basically passed a blank sheet of paper and said we will come back tell you what the laws will be. until we know what theaws are it is hard to see them transfer to the federal level. >> but it would light a fire under them because they don't want a patchworkro of laws the country. i also want to talk about diurbing news about apps that

emerged this week. unknowingly tracking our data once again. the "new york times" found all kind of apps, weather, exercise routines constantly monitor your location and then sell that information without your o knowledge. his buying this data, ina, and how is it used. >> it is very valuable and very personal that is useful, very useful to advertisers. so stores want to know where you are at. burger king just launch a thing where in their app they will tell you if you are wiofin a mile a mcdonald's. you can get a free burger. that location data is very valuable. >> i don't want people to know when i am a the doctor or -- >> here's the i think this. you might be - using you mentioned the example of a weather app. to work, it needs to know where you are. when that permission goes up, you have to wanswerther the app can know your location. if you click alys.

>> 247. >> they know where you live because you spend eight hours a night hopefully in your house each night. and if they areha selling data -- what i would like the see is not just permissions, can they use the app, can they use the wcation. ld like to see it, them have to disclose whetherey are going to use that internally or share it with anyone else. we wereou talking athis beforehand. really, until we know better, i would justnot give apps particularly permission to always use your location. >> soenno. ou see that message come up, no, you do not have access the my location, unless you are using it. i want to talk about huawei. that's a major tory. at washington's behest, canadia authorities arrested a top huawei authority. u.s. prosecutors say she violated american sanctions against iran. jeremy, there are lots of business between.s. companies,

particularly silicon valley and china. what's happening in silicon valley. >> it is fear about going to china and facing reprisal. we have learned that two canadian nationals have been arrested inin prominent canadian nationals. that's going to create worry about going to china and being in wina and dealingith china and what the reaction is going to be from them. >> are they changing their travel plans as a result? >> yes. >> i think individuals -- early on we heard cisco might be considering stopping all executive travel to china. tedn they rel it. you just don't know. if you are an executive, that means you are person. doupt to risk your safety and your ifamily'segrity to go on a business trip? i think that is the danger of this. whether they had cause or not, you know, it's the type of thing ohat's very easy to escalate and very hard rein back. >> that's the danger of all of our kind of brksmanship with china right now is nobody has really stood up to china like this.

how are they going to react? what are the actions they are going to take? it is scary the think about what they could do. we are going to continue to think about it until we see what they actually do. >> it feels like the trade war has been escalating non-stop for a year n and the stakes keep getting higher. tod it doesn't seem like anyone at the of either country is really invested in making it stop any time soon. >> i think what you have that's really interesting and is going to be an issue for while is you have both countries see their tech industries as key to their strategic independence. at the same time, the way the tech industry is structured today, china and the.s. are incredibly interdependent on one anot ar. >> we ha lot of chinese money invested. >> you have chinese money in tech companies. china needs u.s.silicone,the chips from qualcomm to make their phones. about you the u.s. needs the phones to be mde in china to serve the u.s. market. as much asach side would be love not to be dependent on one

another, they really are today. >> all willing follow, ina, casey, and jeremy, thank you all for your tim >> thanks. >> thank. >> thank you. with california's new legislative session underway, housing is among the top issues. one attempt to address the state's intractable housing crisis is senate bill 50 which would require high nsity residential developments near major ep transit stations. the legislations a revision of another bill that died in committee earlier this year. the new version incorporates more protections for neighborhoods at risk of displacement and also targets wealthier communities for jodevelopment. ing me now to discuss this are state senator scott wiener, bill sponsor, and law professor ethanallkind who studies transportation and land use law at uc berkeley. thank you for being here. second times is the you are introducing legislation of this time to require high densitynt resil development near transit hubs. what are you hoping to

th this?sh >> we have a terrible housing crisis in california. a housing deficit of 3.5 million homes, which is equal to the deficit in the other 49 states combined. nd we see the results, with working families being pushed out, people being pushed into homelessness, young people unable taketo ral a g as we build those 3.5 million homes what we don't want to do is keep building sprawl further ave further away so people two hour commutes, so we are building in wildfire zones. we want to put that housing near transportation and near jobs. >> your first bl died in committee. one of the major complaints was that it mandated development in rily disadvantaged communities, since those are l thoseest toness tre it. yet it spared wealthier communities. at have you done to tracey those concerns. to be sure, the bill did include

wealthy communities as well. but it was disproportionate. we took that concern to heart. right now the current low aims to relieve displacement in local communities so they can plan to prevent displacement. an it also includes communities that don't have a lot of transit but he a lot of drive. >> palo alto, mountain view, where a lotch of the companies are? >> or cupertino. also in southern california, there are a lot of cities that fall in that category. we have a problem we know we need to have the housing go by transit and but in so many areas that are job centers, transit centers,me apa buildings are banned. only single-family homes is are allowed, which is not sustain i believe. >> professor allkind, regarding the position that the senator referred to, the one that appls to job rich areas,

cupertino where apple is ort pao and mountain view, how big a shift is that in california's housing policy? up until now local governments have a lot of say over evelopment in their communities. >> that's true. local governments get so s what the zoning is going to be, how tall the buildings are, how far apart they are from one anothe over and over again the cities and counties say no to new housing. we will have to see how the jobs rich housing is defined. but i think the silicon valley areas in the bay area are amp gd e of that. they are willing to greenlight projects that bring aj lot of s but not the housing. what they are saying is we want all the workers to be housed outside of our community and put the burdens of them commuting on eryone else. >> what has been the reaction of those cities to the latest

version of the >> they have been opposed to loss of their sovereignty over land use. that's the argument in kaflth 's why you reason is seen legislation trying to rein in local control. it is a powerful dynamic. it is a powerful interest group. some of our wealthiest communities like their communities low densette. it is a big fight for them. buthe question is is the coalition discontent enough to push this over the finish line? >> there is another point that critics are making, too, is th transing near housing makes sense in places where there is a comprehensiveness tre it system like new york for example. we don't really have something like that here in the bay area, unless you are in the city, in san francisco, it works fairly well. how many people can your bill actually serve?

>> we have -- especially this the bay area we have got a bit of transit. yes of course, s francisco. ut cal train and bart. and we havequ high fcy bus lines. buses are included in the legislation. in los angeles, they are building, god bless them an normous number of new rail and subway lines. we are seeing inaccuracied investment. one of the reasons in this new bi that we included job rich areas was to be clear that you can be a hub whe people work even if you don't have transit. we want the me sure we are addressing both. the core principle here is people should be able to live near where they workea and public transportation. and right now, because of hyper restrictive zoning, they can't do that. people are basically bein kicked out. >> and ethan, are there examples of other regions with publica public transportation situation similar to the bay area where

high honsitying has worked and succeeded in housing more people. >> in some ways we are going back to the ohaginal vision have cities were, walkable, very vibrant places where peo could live in more compact neighborhoods. we see examples of that al over rld. locally in the u.s., portland is a good example of a communit that tried to focus development inward and boost their transit ceiling has taken really progressive steps in the last decade or so. you see transit ridership increasing, home prices generally stabilizing there. there are models. >> is it a cultural problem inf cania do you think with the suburban sprawl. >> californ pioneered the auto dependent life-style. now you seero it the west, phoenix, vegas, parts of texas. we pioneered that but there is a lontof people who w the urban life-sty life-style. you see the skyrocketing demand when there are neighborhoods that provide that yllife- rock ridge in san francisco for

example, they are very desirable. there is nand f it. we just haven't been good at buildingit primarily because of the pressure from the single family homeowner groups that don't want see high density housing building. >> you coauthored another measure in addition to this bill. this targets a clause in article 34 that bans cities and counties from developing orng bu low income housing without a majority vote of taxpayers of the it has be in place since 1950. how does it hurt the housing problem? >> it hard to believe that article 34 is part of progressive california's constitution. it is a racist, classist relic of a time periodhen people wanted to keep largely black people out of their oo neighbo. and certainly poor people out of their neighborhoods. and so what happened was after world war ii, there was a significant migration of afrin-american people from the

south primarily to california. and so oakland, san francisco, ther places had a growing african-american population. and sompeople got really upset that african-americans were movng into their neighborhoods. >> what that ban did really was to slow down construction. itity made developers that no more than49% of funneleding for their projects came from government. >> this constitutiothal amendmet t was passed said it is illegal for a city to build public low income housing without putting it out to a vote of the people. it is the only kind ever housg hat the constitution requires to have a vote of the people. we need get rid of thispr >> essor, we have about 30 seconds remaining. what is your biggest fear of what will happen if we don't resolve this housing crisis? >> well, we are going to see continued economic inquality. oing we california is are only going to have homes affordable to the very privileged, the wealy, the elite.

we are hemorrhaging our middle class. unle we solve this i am worried about having an unequal state as wells economically unsustainable one. >> that will do it for us. as always you can find more of our coverage on our webds. j thank you foroining us. -- coverage on our oubsite. thankor joining us.

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