she is among a divers group of congress members shaking up capitol hill. she made lgbt rights a part of her platform in the race and won. nt and moug concerns over how tech companies handle free speech and da privacy. plus a state bill to build hsing near transit hubs that died in the legislature earlier this year gets a second chance. could it help alleate california's housing crisis. hello and wecome. we begin with a newis if a of capitol hill. this midterm deelection,crats fought to regain a majority i the house by flipping republican seats in hard-won campaigns. many are young and holding elected office for the first

time, including 31-year-old democrat katie hill. she defeated steve knight in los angeles and ventura unls. she vowed to handle homelessness and helping out the middle class and the lgbt community. hill is part of a fresh generation of leaders in a newu majority. and congresswoman-elect katie hill joins me now viakype from santa clarita. thanks for joining us. >> thanouyou. thankor having me. >> what have the past weeks been like you sincehe winning election? >> it's been a whirl win.ng it was go back and forth to d.c. we had a ton of leadershipct ens and getting our offices squared away. then we went for kind of bipartisan kind of training. now it is back home. i am working a little this week and toin i am to try to take a little bit of time off.

it's been 18 month >> i bet, you have been working very hard. in fact, you are 1 one of elected members of the new house caucus.ic congratulations on that. >> thank you so much. >> what perspective -- you are 1 years old 678 you have a background in ruing an organization that provides homeless services. what perspective do you bring to the caucus that you tnk is lacking right now? >> sure, i think having a non-profit ckground, that he is poof it, the service piece of it,filling the mission, helping people and of bringing all the different stakeholders together to affect change in the community. that's something i think i incredibly important that i bring to the table. and it also, you know, having worked on literally hundreds of different government contracts i no he the ins and outs, what works and what doesn't about so many of our federal services. beyond that, as a young woman, as part of this new generation

of people moving into leadership i think in congress that that perspective alone is something that has been missing. and i look forward to bringing it to the table. >> you represent change. yet at the same time you have supported having nancy pelosi come back as house speaker. even before she announced this week that she would limit herself tofour years inhe post. in nancy pelosi and not someone neve? >> i worked on transition and in my role in the non-profit sector. i think havingsomeone at the helm that can help navigate this process and realizing we are only going to have power in the house and not in the senate and not in the presidency. 70% of us never held elected before, weok need to l up to the people that have experience. >>t what abyou, what are the top priorities you will be

pushing come january? >> my approach to thing is we need tocte as efve as possible in the pieces of legislation that we know are going to pass. within appropriations bills. within, you know, the farm billh w -- you know, thesist pieces like transportation andn structure packages that we think are likely to make it beyond just the house of representatives. that's what i will be looking r, different kind of angles to affect some kind of movement on legislation. beyond that -- >> will you be focusing primarily on thing you think you can get bipartisan appeal out o it. >> what about things that are more divisive, trying to abolish i.c.e. or impeaching president trump. what will you do on those eces? >> those are not recondiictive of mrict or of my views. reform of -- immigration reform, abolutely. impeaching president trump i don't think is something we should do right now since we

ve to have republican support for that to actually go anywhere. instead i think we need to focus on protecting the mueller investigation and on conducting ooversight responsibilities in the congress. i would say i support measures in that direction, but not as -- i am simply not asft far l as some people are from these districts that are totally blue. >> president trump is threatening to shut down the u.s. government if hedoesn't geunding for a border wall. we saw a tense televised oval office meeting between him and nancy pelosi and chuc schumer. what's your reaction to that standoff? what does it tell you abou mood in washington right now? >> i think the stance that we as democrats needed to take is that we don't havthe majority in any chamber. and so if there is a shutdown, it is entirely on donald trump and the republicans. and once we get there, yes,boe can talk our piece of it. and so if president trump wants to get ng done, if the republicans want to get anything

us , they have to work wi and vice versa. so there will be ave m toward cooperation in some capacity. et cetera not going to be easy. there is always going to be tension. bu i think so many of us who are committed to change andcc plishing things that we will see a change in toon. >> just a lighter note here, you tweeted something pret amusing recently related to your transition to congress. you ran into nancy pelosi last month atnd airportou lamented your casual appearance. there youre with a very cuteo phf yourself totally exhausted and adding that pelosi looks flawless. >> yep. >> adding sometimes you have to laugh and trust the process. a good sense of humor. >> yeah. >> now that the election is over whori sud you 2 most about the process of running for office and winning office? >> i actually think -- you know, since i got elected onefhe things that surprised me the most in a really, really sitive way. >> as a freshman class we are

already working incredibly collaboratively togeth. we are being heard by the morer senadership members who are making an effort to change the way things have historically beenkedone and sure to involve us in the process and make sure our opinions are prioritized. infers a certain sense thate were going to have to about in and fight forhange but there has been an incredible it.eptiveness to it gives me optimism for the future and what the next two years are going the lo like. >> on that on the misic note, we will leave it there. congress woman-elect katie hill. congratulations again. and thank you for being with us. thank you. now to tech. google's offic testified before the house this week. denied that the company

compresses conservative viewpoints in googl search results. similar questions are being levelled at facebook for how it handles data. meanwhile the arrest of one of china's leading executives at the request of whington has ignited fears that china might e retal here to join us is casey newton. jeremy owens, and yia frooed. welcome to you all. i in, a. facebook unveiled a security flahat allowed people to access photos even those that haven't been fully up loaded. when did facebook know about this a w they tell us just now? >> this is the biggest issue. it's bad enough that those are photos that you wanted to post. and it includes photos you

didn't want topost. they knew about it in september, and are letting people know about it in december. and european regulators knew about it in november. >> it is part of a pattern. we hear over and over again, we had this flaw, thisbreach, and we don't hear about it until months later. are there any calls fine facebook at this point or have some other kind of sanction or penalty? >> there are provisions in the european law andth consent decree with the federal trade commission that requires them to notifabout data breaches. there is no law at this point that prevents companies from having data breaches but there are laws about how and why they notify people. this could come back to bite them. >> do we have information? are ey disclosing any information on which apps had access and how these photos might have been used? >> i don't think we have seen the complete lis yet.

we know there were 1,500 apps from something like 850 developers. lot of people who could have seen those photos. i will say among all the facebook data breaches this is the one i am less concerned with. when i hibout my photos it is like blurry photos, w light photos stuff i don't want a developer to have but i am not going to freak out. >> as opposed to things like cambridge analytic, e to. i know you have been following the google hearing that haened this eek, casey, and you wrote an article that wasrical of the hearing taking to task both tech ceos and lawmakers for not doing a better job of claobfying ms about issues like data privacy. why don't you think they are doing a good job?th >> k the sides keep talking past each other. on the lawmakers' side they often seem to fundamentalls derstand how the platform

works, sometimes in ways that feel intenonal like they are trying to rally their base. and for their part, i think the s, they just try to say as little as ssle. where i think they would have an opportunity to answer of the spirit of theer lawm questions even if the lawmakers don't get the details exactly right. >> how can they do better? >> i would love to see the lawmakers develop basic platform literacy. for example, they could understand that google has financial incentives not to make their search results politically bias. tant to serve as many people as possible. that means serving the best search results. not skewing i think this oor way another. and on the patchi front he faces questabout what google is doing in china. no plans to have launch right now. his answers were irrelevant by the time the hearing was over.

i would love to see him give better answers. >> iwould love the see lawmakers make some laws. sundar said he is okay wi a gdp style regulation in the united states. we continue to have these hearings. how many have we had this ityea? eels like half a dozen. >> zuckerberg, dorsey. in that time, they have built cosensus, privacy oups, everyone said okay here's a am work of what we would be fine with. and privacy companies and tec companies are not that far apart. >> we are ten years into social media and mobile phones and we still haven't develop these kinds of laws to address those services that have really changed how we interact with each other and how we interact with the world. >> to ina's point, do you thinkt 2019 wit new congress in place we will see more regulation? >> it dpends if the democrats

make that a part of their platform. i feel like with all of the arings and wi the backlash from americans that would be one that they could ao for finned consensus even in the polarized times happening n ess. >> i suspect we will see it because california passed a privacy law th yearhat incorporates some of the provisions that folks would l e to roll otionally. that goes into effect in 2020, which means there is kind of a ticking clock. if the tech companies can't reach a consensus by then there is going to be a patcork of regulations all across the country. that would be a nightmare for them. >> the problem with the california law is they basically passed a blank sheet of paper and said we will come back and tell you what the law will e. until we know what the laws are it is hard to see themransfer to the federal level. >> but it would light a fire under them because they don't want a patchwork of laws across the country. i also want to talk aboutbi dist news about apps that emerged this week.

unknowingly trackingour data once again. the "new york times" found all kind of apps, weather, exercise routines constantly monitor location and then sell that information witowut your knledge. who is buying this data, ina, and how is it used. >> it is very valuable and very persal that is useful, very useful to advertisers. so stores want to know where you are at. burger king just launched a thing where in their app they will tell you if you are within a mile of a mcdonald's. you can get a free burger. that location data is very valuable. >> i don't want people to know when i am a the doctor or -- >> here's the i think this. you might be using -- you mentioned the example of a weather app. to work, it needs to know where you are. when that permission goes up, you have to answer whether the app can knowour location. if you click always. >> 247.

>> they know where you live because youspend eight hours a night hopefully in your house each night. and if they are selling that data -- what i would like the see is not just permissions, can they ushe app, can they use the location. i would like toit see them have to disclose whether they are going to use thatrn inly or share it with anyone else. we were talking about this beforehand. noreally, until we better, i would just not give apps particularly permission to always use your locatn. >> so . when you see that message come up, no, you do not have the my location, unless you are using it. i want to talk about huawei. that's a major story. at washington's behest, canadian authorities arrested a top huawei authority. u.s. prosecutors say she violatedrican sanctions against iran. jeremy, there are lots of business between u.s. companies, particularly silicon valley a

china. what's happening in silicon vaey. >> it is fear about going to china and facing reprisal. we have learned that tw canadian nationals have been arrested in china.na prominent an nationals. that's going to create worry about going to china and being in china and dealing with china and what the reaction is going to be from them. >> are they changing their travel plans as a result? th yes. >> ink individuals -- early on we heard cisco might be considering stopping all executive travel to china. then they relaxed it. you just don't know. if you are an executive, that means you are a person. doupt to risk your safety and your family's integrity to go on a business trip? i think that is the danger of this. whether they had cause or not, you know, it's the type of that's very easy to escalate and very hard to rein back. >> that's the danger of all of our kind of brinksmanship with china right n is nobo has really stood up to china like this. how are they going to react?

what are the actions they are to take? it is scary the think about what they could do. we are going to continue to think about it until we see what they actually do. >> it feels like the trade war has been escalating non-stop for a year now and the stakes keep getting higher. and it doesn't seem like anyone at the top of either country is really invested in making it stop any time soon. >> i think what you have that's really interesting and is going to be an issue for a while is you have both countries see their tech industries as keyto their strategic independence. at the same time, the way the tech industry is structured today, china and the u.s. are incredibly interdependent on one another. >> we have a lot of chinese money invested. >> you have chinese money in tech companies. china needs u.s. silicone, the chips from qualcomm to make their phones. iout you the u.s. needs the phones to be ma china to serve the u.s. market. as much as each side would be love not to be dependent on one another athey real today. >> all willing to follow, ina,

sey, and jeremy, thank you all for your time. >> thanks. >> thank. >> thank yo with california's new legislative session underway, hoheing is among t top issues. a one attempt dress the state's intractable housing crisis is senate bill 50 which would require high density residential developments near major ep transit stations. the legislation i revision of another bill that died in committee earlier this year. n thew versionte incorpo more protections for deighborhoods at risk of displacement also targets wealthier communities for development. joining me now to discuss th are state senator scott wiener, bill sponsor, and law professor ethan allkind who studies transportation and land use law at uc thberkeley. nk you for being here. senator, this is the second time you are introducing legislation of this timeo require high density residential development near transit hubs. what are you hoping to accomplish with this? >> we have a terrible housing

crisis in california. a housing deficit of 3.5 million homes, which is eual to the deficit in the other 49 states combined. and we see the results, with working families being pushed out, people being push into homelessness, young people unable to get a foot hold. we have to take real actldn. as we b those 3.5 million homes what we don't want to do is keep building sprawl further and further away so people have two hour commutes, so we are building in wildfire zones. we want to put that housing neat transpion and near jobs. >> your first bill died in committee. one of the major complaints was that it mandated development in primarily disadvantaged communities, since those are those closest toness tre it. yet it spared wealthier communities. what have you doo tracey those concerns. to be sure, the bill did includy weaommunities as well.

but it was disproportionate. we to that concern to heart. right now c therrent low aims to relieveisplacement in local communities so they can plan to prevent displacement. and it also includes communities that don't have a lot of transit but have a lot of drive. >> palo alto, mountain ew, where a lot of the tech companies are? >> or cupertino. also in southern california, there are a lot of cities that fall in that category. we have a problem now. we know we need to have the housing go by transit and jobs.i but so many areas that are job centers, transit centers, apartment buildings a banned. only single-family homes is are allowed,ta which is not s i believe. >> professor allkind, regarding the position that ther senator erred to, the one that applies to job rich areas, cupertino where apple is or palo

alto and mountain view, how big a shift is that in california's housing policy up until now local governments have a lot of say over development in their communities. >> that'strue. local governments get so say what the zoning is going to be, how tall the buildings e, how far apart they are from one another. over and over again thecies and counties say no to new housing. we will have to see how the jobs rich housing is defined. but think the silicon valley areas in the bay area are a good example of that. they are willing to greenlight otojects that bring a lot of jobs but the housing. what they are saying is we want all the workers to be housedou ide of our community and put the burdens of them couting on everyone else. >> what has been the those cities to the latest version of the bile

>> they hbeen opposed to loss of their sovereignty over land use. that's the argument in kaflt. that's why you reason is seen legislation trying rein in local control. it is a powerful dynamic. it is a powerfuler it group. some of our wealthiest communities like their communities low densette. it is a big fight for them. but the question is is the coalition discontent enough to push this over the finish line? > there is another point that critics are making, too, is that transing near housing makes sense in placeshe where is a comprehensiveness tre it system like new york for example. we don really have something like that here in the bay unless you are in the city, in san francisco, it works fairly well. how many people can your billtu ly serve? >> we have -- especially this

the bay area we have got a bit of transit. yes of course, san francisco. but cal trainnd bart. and we have high frequency bus lines. buses are included in the egislation. in los angeles, they are building, god bless them an er enormous nuof new rail and subway lines. we are seeing dinaccurac investment. one of the reasons in this new bill thate included job rich areas was to be clear that you can be a hub where people work even if you don't havera it. we want the make sure we are addressing boh. the core principle here is people should be able to live near where they work and near public transportation. and right now, because of hyper restrictive zoning, they can't do that. people are basically being kicked out. >> and ethan, are there examples of otheregions with publica public transportation situation similar to the bay area where high density housing has worked

and succeed in housing more people. >> in some ways we are going back to the original visionve wt ities were, walkable, very vibrant places where people could live in more compact neighborhoods. we see examples of that al over the world. locally in the u.s., portland is a good example of a community that tried to focus development rd and boost their transit system. ceiling has taken really progressive steps in decade or so. pu see transit ridership increasing, homeces generally stabilizing there. there are isdels. >> it a cultural problem in california do you think with the suburban sprawl. >> california pioneered the autd dent life-style. now you see it across the west, phoenix, vegas, parts of texas. we pioneered that but there is a lot of people who want the urban life-sty life-style. you see the skyrocketing demand when there are neighborhoods that provide that life-style. rock ridge in san francisco for example, they are very

desirable. there is nand for it. we just hooen't been at building it primarily because of the pressure from the single mily homeowner groups that don't want to see high density housing building. >> you utcred another measure in addition to this bill. this targets a clause in article 34 that bans cities and counties from developing or buying low income housing without a majority vote of taxpayers of the it has been in place since 1950. how does it hurtushe hng problem? >> it hard to believe that article 34 is part of progressive california's constitution. it is a rast, classist relic of a time period when people wanted to keep largely black people out of their neighborhoods. and certainly poor people out of their and so what happened was after world war ii, there was a significant migration of african-american people from the south primarily t california.

and so oakland, san francisco, c other had a growing african-american population. otnd some people really upset that african-americans were moving into their neighborhoods. >> what that ban did really was to slow down construction. itity made delopers that no more than 49% of funneleding for their projts came from government. >> this constitutional amendment that was passed said it is illegal for a city to build public lowe incusing without putting it out to a vote of the people. it is the only kind ever housins that the tution requires to have a vote of the people. we need get rid of this. >> haprofessor, w about 30 seconds remaining. what is your biggest fear of what will happensf we don't ve this housing crisis? >> well, we are going to see ntinued economic inquality. the way california is goingly w are o going to have homes affordable to the very privileged, the wealthy, the elite. we are hemorrhaging our middle

class. unless we t solveis i am worried about having an unequal state as well as a economically unsustainableone. >> that will do it for us. as always you can find more of our coverage on our webds. thank you for joining us. -- coverage on our website. thank you for joining us.

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