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ca inewshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour toni month into the government shutdown, no signs of progress since president trump offered temporary protection for some undocumented immigrants in exchange for border wall funds. then, how the f.b.i. cracked the text messages notorious mexican drug cartel leader joaquin "el chapo" guzman. and, as legalizing marijuana is taken up by more stae explore the potential link between marijuana edibles and psychosis. >> clearly edibles seem to haveo severe toxicity than inhaled agents and it seems that much of this iactually psychiatric in nature. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> woodruff: the partial federal government shutdown has now entered its fifth week, with no signs the impasse is any closer to being broken. the senate will vote tomorrow on president trump's proposal to protect some undocumented immigrants in exchge for border wall funding. but democrs are expected to reject it. we'll take a closer look at where things stand, and how the shutdown is impacting the country, later in the program. taliban fighters carried out a brazen attack on a heavily- fortified afghan intelligence base today, killing more than 100 people. most of the victims were military personnel. the base, which trains newui re, is located in wardak province. the attackers detonated a stolen military humvee packed with explosives. that allowed more militants to infiltrate the complex and open fire inside. british prime minister theresa
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may today unveiled her "plan b" onr leaving the european u it comes a week after heral origeal to exit the bloc pes trounced in parliament. paul brand of inent television news has our report. >> it is clear the gernment's approach had to change, and it has. >> reporter: though you'd struggle to notice. the prime minister's next steps esll retrace her previous she's sticking to her deal, and still trying to tweak the northern irish backstop. there were new concessions to protect workers' rights and to waive fees for e.u. citizens seeking settled status. but the prime ministered to rule out leaving without a deal. and was amant there'll be no second referendum. >> a second referendum could damage social cohesion by undermining faith in our democracy. >> reporter: that's stronger than she's said it before, but little else has changed. >> what makes her think that what she tried to renegotiate in december will succeed in january.
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mr. speaker, this real feel a bit like groundhog day. >> reporr: but the tactic now isn't to win over his party, but her own. do you feeas if the government was genuinely listening to you today or is the prime minister >> well that's what we've heard. plan b looks very much like plan e need to move forward from that. with a defeat of 230, on that scale, we have to be looking at an alternative here. >> reporter: and if the primesn minister doe have one, m.p.s are threatening to force their own. some of this group will back attempts, to give parliament contro mainly to stop britain leaving without a deal. >> she is rely struggling to ind a way forward, and if she can't do her job, the job of parliamentarians to stand up and play their part. >> reporter: some people say exu're just a load of remainers trying to steal . >> well in the end, we are members of parliament who a ve to decide y forward.an >> is pl a still your plan b prime minister? >> reporter: today theresa may
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was welcoming her coterpart from new zealand. nice to see a far-flung ally. but she's still lacking them here at home. >> woodruff: that report from paul brand of independent television news. israel confirmed it launched airstrikes against iranian military sites near damascus, syria early today. they targeted a military training camp, intelligence site and storage facility. 11 people died. today's strikes were in response to an iranian rocket fired at israel on sunday. it was intercepted by israel's on dome defense system near golan heights. back in this country, the death toll from a brutal winter storm that lashed the eastern u.s. over the weekend rose to at least five people. today's temperatures across the region were more than 20 degrees below normal, as parts of new utengland attempted to digf more than a foot of snow.ed wind chills neinus 40 degrees in upstate new york and vermont. u.s. senator kamala harris of
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california has become the latest in a growing field of democrats to announce a presidential run in 2020. harris bypassed launchg a edesidential exploratory committee, and oo jump straight in to her campaign. she made the announcement on abc's "good morning america." >> my entire career has been focused on keeping people safe. it is probably one of the things that motivates me more than anything else. and when i look at this moment in time, i know that t american people deserve to have somebody who is going to fight for them, who is going to see them, who will hear them, who will care about them, who will be concerned about their experience and put them in front of self interest. >> woodruff: the first-term senator is a former prosecutor and california attorney general. a chinese scientist who claimed to have created the world's first gene-edited babies has been fired from his university job. that's according to chinese state media. chinese investigators determined
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he jianku evaded oversight and violated ethical guidelines when he eted genes for twin girls to help make them resistant to the aids virus. their report said he acted alone and will be punished. china reported todayconomy grew at its slowest pace inal st 30 years. the chinese economy expanded.6 justin 2018, amid a trade dispute wi the u.s. china also said its population growth rate declined last year. it's now at just uer 1.4 billion people.ve the ment estimates it will peak in 2029. a new report from the anti- poverty group oxfam says global income inequality is "out of control", and harming women especially. the group said fortunes for billionaires grew by2% last year, while the poorest half of the globe saw their wealth crease by 11%.
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oxfam international's executive director called on the world's wealthiest to correct the disparity. >> the richest people in the world, the most powerful people in the world, the politil leaders of the world need to take action to reduce extreme inequalityecause it is out of control. it's widening, it's hurting our economies, slowing our economies, it's undermining democracy, it's trapping people in poverty. >> woodruff: the group releasedb its repoore the world economic forum gets underway edmorrow in davos, switzerland. americans remembr. martin luther king junior'sda contributions just days after what would have been the slain civil rights leader's 90th president trump and vice president pence laid a wreath at king's memor washington. while across the uob., communitierved the holiday with parades and marches in his honor.
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and, a passing to note: tony mendez, the former c.i.a.sp who inspired the award- winning movie "argo" died saturday in maryland. he'd suffered fr parkinson's disease. mendez worked for the c.i.a. for 25 years, mostly creating disguises and forging documents. in 1980, he helped smuggle six u.s. diplomats out of tehran during the iran hostage crisis, by disguising them as a canadian film crew. tony mendez was 78 years old. still to come on the newshour after 31 days, there's still no sign of compromise on the shutdown. catching the world's most wanteg dr lord. the potential risks of using marijuana edibles, and much more. uf >> woo day 31 of the partial government shutdown, and still no deal.
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as white house corresponent yamiche alcindor reports, president trump's latest proposal to end the shutdown was met with unified opposition froo ressional democrats. >> aindor: on monday in washington, president trump made a quick visit to the martin luther king memorial.th he laid a wrt the monument. but he didn't take questions and did not discuss his weekend proposal to re-open the government. it's a deal democrats have flatlyejected. >> i want this to end. it's got to end now. >> alcindor: on saturday, president trump doubled down on his demand for $5.7 billn to fund a wall on the southern border. in exchange, he offered to extend temporary protections for three years for two groupsf immigrants in the united states. the first group includes about 700,000 daca recipients. they are immigrants brought to the u.s. illegally as children. their legal status is uncertain. president obama initially gave them protections but in 2017, president trump moved to take
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those away. the second group is 300,000 immigrants with temporary protected status. many are people who fled wars and natural disasters in their native countries. in a statement, eaker of the use nancy pelosi rejected the proposal as "a non-starter" of "previously rejected initiatives." senate republicans, including lindsey graham of south carolina, applauded the deal on twitter. but, the president also faced backlash from within his own part some right-wing conservatives quickly claimed the proposal was "amnesty." on sunday shows, vice president rtnce tried to drum up sup but he came under fire for comparing mr. trump's demand for a border wall to the work of rev. dr. marn luther king jr. >> he inspired us to change through the legislative process to become a more perfect union. that is exacat president trump is calling on the congress to do. come to the table in a spirit of good faith. >> alcindor: this week, senate
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majority leader mitch mcconnell is expected to introduce the president's plan on the senate floor. he hopes the proposal will get a vote. white house officials say they have been talking to rank and file democrats about the president's plan. it's a long shot, but they are hoping some democrats will break with democrac leaders and support the deal, judy. >> woodruff: that's very interesting. so when leader mcconnell puts it on the floor this week, what dos we thioing to happen? >> well, the republicans really want to make the case that democrs are the reason why people won't get paid this week. they're trying to shift the narrative because there's videom of president saying he's happy to own the shupt and would be proud to ut town the government so mitch mcconnell is trying to bring that back. he's going to bring the president's proposal to the floor and adding something democrats like -- billions of dollars in disaster funds for communities hit by hurricanes and extending violence to
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women's act. house democrats will pass theirin' set of billsout thse won't go anywhere either. >> woodruff: the demleocratic ers said there's no way they're going to support this. if it goes do, what happens? >> president trump seems to be edging closer and closer to declare nacialg emergency. open saturday, white house officials gathered a few group of reporters including myself to have a pretty intimate meeting about the president's proposal. acting chief of that have mick mulvaney said the president is still thinking of declaring a national emergency. he said the president doesn'th want to dos but if democrats don't deal, they're going to be the ones for people int ge paid and federal workers continued to be furloughed. so white house officials sound urgent but because the president wants to put his stamp on that. >> woodruff: still pointing
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the blamat the president. so let me turn, yamiche, to special counsel. late friday night, robert mueller's office issued a statement about the buzzfeed story which, in essence, was citing sources thates ent trump directed his then personal attorney michael cohen to lie tos.ongr now, the special counsel statement said -- and i'm quoting here -- buzzfeed's description specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office m regardichael cohen's congressional testimony are not accurat h is the white house reading this? what does this mean for thi story? >> well, i can't stress enough how incredibly rare it is for the special counsel's office to put out a statement like this. most of the time, 90% of the time whereporters reach out t that office, they say no comment. so in this case it's being ewed as a big deal that they come out with the statement. and "the washington post" is reporting that inside the do
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this is a huge deal and seen as mueller's ofsce as saying mot of the story is inaccurate. the other thing to note is thcos d be short-lived but president trump is praising the special counsel's offic usually he's saying this is all a witch hunt and this is a hoax, but the president said iec apte them putting out this statement. we shod de mueller could indict someone close tot presidump as soon as tomorrow and came out with a quote saying president trump obstructed justice. woodruff: so much that we don't know about what the special counsel it doing >> this statement is saying buzzfeed, you've got this wrong, but they haven't said anything a out there.er reports if they're saying this is wrong, everything ee is right, president trump could be in hot water here. >> woodruff: we shall see, yamiche alcindor, thank you.
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druff: many survivors of domestic violence rely on government funded programs to keep them safe and finally stable in times of crisis. the u.s. justice department oversees a number of federal grants that support state and cal domestic violence shelters. two of those programs fall under laws known as the violence against women act, which administers federal grants t organizations that protectct s of domestic abuse and stalking, and the victims of crime act, wch provides federal support to state and local programs that house and assist victims of mestic violence. now that the standoff over a current spending bill has cut off justice partment funds, organizations that rely on those monies are in flux, savi as much of their current reserves as possible, since reimbursements from the federal government are no longer guaranteed. we spoke with diana brown and cato kraft, who operate estes valley crisis advocates in esteo parkrado, near denver:
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it's the only domestic violence shelter in the area. they shared their concerns ase utdown continues. >> i guess one of the biggest concerns for us is that we were researching and trying to apply for funds to replace the heating. t an older building and the heater is not good. it's going to go oute nytime and thnds are frozen. so you know we hope that we're not going tothet faced with . >> we do operate a nine-bed shelter and if it was an option where the furnace did go out we would have to find a different location for all of our people. >> woodruff: and the shutdown also continues to impact some travelers. the transportation security administration announced yesterday that the agency experienced a national rate of ten percent of unscheduled employee absences. that's one out of ten employees, compared to just 3.1% on the same day last year many employees are reporting
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meat they are not able to to work due to financial limitations. while national average wait times are within normal ranges, according to t.s.a., some airports experienced longer than usual wait times. >> woodruff: a tightly-secured federal courthouse in brooklyn has hosted, since november, the trial of one of the world's most-wanted men. he was a billionaire, and cartel boss; stands accused of orderinn murders and ruone of world's most-profitable, andad , drug syndicates. when court was adjourned this past friday, hari sreenivasan spoke with a reporteiacovering the and the man known as "el chapo." >> he is the world's most infamous and ruthless drug kingpin and his federal trial in new york has produced one explosive revelation a aer another witory line equalng parts gaster movie and soap
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opera. joaquin "el chapo" guzman ran the sinaloa cartel in mexico, an internatnal drug operation he used almost as a license to print money and kill anywhone o stood in his way. guzman was repeatedly capbytured exican authorities and escaped from prison twice, the last time in 2015 through a nearly mile-long tunnel dug right into the shower of his cell. he was recaptured an nd extradited to the u.s. for more, we're joined by hamilton, u.s. editor of vice news and host of vi news podcast chapo kingpin on trial. tanks for being with us. you have been e courtroom all week, given what just went by, you've got testimony from a mistress, a drug kingpin, his wife in the stands. this is all real life. >> it was a pretty remarkable week in the courtroom, and like you said, it felt lik se p opera at times with chapo's
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mistressn the witness stand his wife in the gallery, and the text between chapo and his mistress displayed on the screen in the courtroom for everyone to see. it was quite the drama. >> there's the picture queeion here of evels of corruption that might have existed between el chapo, the former president of mexico, and now the sreme indication possibly members in the campaign of the current president? >> that's correct. there were several bomb shelters this week. you metioned, the biggest one with the allegation that chapo and the sinaloa crtel paid a $100 million bribe to enrique pe peña nieto, the form president of mexico. after that we saw a court document unsealed an allegation that in 2006 the current pr oidentf mexico, a member of his campaign may have re bribe from members of the sinaloa cartel. >> what did the former and
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current presidents say to all this? >> outright denial. a former spokesperson for peña nieto called the allegationsan fals inflammatory. the current president obador said the testimony is coming from a witness in the united states a therefore should not be believed. >> one thing that's interesting is the tech savviness ofis infrastructure -- encrypted cell phone networkit the abito spy on his mistress without her knowing it through her cell phone. >> that was one of the more remarkable revelations through the past month. t one e key and most damning witnesses who testified so farwa a colombian who was hired to be the sinaloa cartel's i.t. guy and built a custom-encrypted commications network that by all accounts was working great until the f.b.i. approached that guy and turned him into an informant and gave the law enforcement access to te
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servers which allowed them to record all the conversations chapo was having with basically everyone in his busineas. for the spireware, that was chapo's own doing when he installed commercial spyware on the phones of his wife and mistresses and all those communications were recorded, and the same i.t. guy gave the f.b.i. access to that data as well. >> did chapo react in any way when his voice was playing outer through the cou>>rtroom? o when his crois was playing in the couroom so much. normally he's pretty stoic, staring down witnesses on the witness stand, talking toat attorneys oring his wife's attention in the gallery. his most notable reaction is when hitrs miss was testifying and we were seeing the messages that were both embarrassing an highly incriminating and he sort of hung his head a little bit and seed to be staring down in
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his lap which is really the n rst time we've sey sign of defeat on el chapo throughout the course of the tial. >> let's not forget, this is a man who sat on top of a very violent carand financed by moving enormous sums of drugs. what's the scale we're talking about? >> just this week, we saw the f.b.i. give evidence about a drug ledger that was obt drurg a raid on one of chapo's properties and, in the course of a little over nth, we're talking about three dollars million worth of dru more or less that moved through the organization and that's just what was contained in that one ledger that they know about.sa i think it'e to say tens of millions, hundreds of millions d lars per year are moving through this organization. the u.s. authorities haven't been able to seize any assets of chapo, so who knows how much he has squirreled away in mexico and elsewhere.of the scal drugs se norms, hundreds of thousands of kilos
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of drugs. the federal prosecutors, when rges, have these cha hoped to seize $14 billion from chapo. that seems kind of like a fantasy at this point as they founnone of tha money, but it gives you a sense of what u.s. authorities thk they can prove the worth of the drugs that he trafficked into the united states over the years is. >> and for people whoon't kno the landscape, how violent, how big was this cartel or is this cartel? we see numbers as high as 250,000 people killed in this drug war. >> i mean, the sinaloa cartel is the largest and mot powerful drug trafficking organization in mexico. they ar moving drugs across the hemisphere and, in mexico, they are, in the past, especially, b han responsible for a significant amount of the violence. in ciudad juarez, a personal
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dispute between el chapo and anothedrug trafficker escalated that made juarez for a while the murder capitol of the western hemisphere. >> keegan hamilton, vice news,ha kingpin on trial," thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: the internal controversies of the women's march. amy walter and tamara keith break down the latest politics news. and on martin luther king day,si reng dr. king's poor people's campaign. the number of states where recreational pot is now legal is growing, now up to 10 states and the district of columb many users are consuming marijuana edibles instead of smoking the leaf, but the research on the effects of edibles is scarce.
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from rocky mountain pbs in denver, lori jane glamines the potential link between sirijuana edibles and psyc >> a man acced of murdering s wife while she was on the phone with 911. i >> reporteapril 2014, richard kirk did the unthinkable. the father of three opened his family safe, retrieved his gun, and shot his wife in the head. >> who else is interested in the truth? >>e! it's you and me right here. >> so far, no one is interested in the truth. >> reporter: this footage from questioning at the police station shows a confused kirk not long after he pued the trigger. >> if you can't afford a lawyer, one will be appointed to you without cost to you before questioning. do you understand each of these rights that i have read to you? >> i was kind of spaced out >> okay, we can go over them again.
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>> yes please. >> reporter: he blamed the mu on a juana-infuseum, which ae was newly legalized for recreational consumption in colorado. >> that was the worst decision e ver made in my life. >> reporter: this is thew irst intervrk has given. the prison wouldn't permit video cameras inside, but we were allowed to record audio.ou >> i know wiany doubt that if i did not eat that marijuana, my wife and family would still be together today. ertainty.at with a >> reporter: it is the first time since the murder in 2014 that he has spoken publicly. and despite a history of maritau es, financial issues, and allegations he had a short s temper, ll insists the marijuana edible made him do it. >> i didn't know it was my wife! i thought it was somebody else guess. that's the only way i could have
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done it. i neveever once thought about even hurting my wife or pushing her or anything. >> reporter: whether you believe his story or not, colorado regulators did make significant changes after that incident, by restricting serving sizes, limiting the psychoactive ingredient, t.h.c., in each serving to 10 milligrams, with no more than 100 milligrams in i ngle package. and one marijuana researcher sang he has new evidence lin edibles to psychiatric complications in the emergency room. >> there seem to be a disproportionate number of visits ssociated with edible cannabis products compared to other products. >> reporter: dr. andrew monte sits on colorado's retail marijuana public health advisory mmittee, and has been researching cannabis since 2009. he also worked as a paidir consultant fors defense team. >> not everybody that takes an gent is going to have hallucinations. many, many people do take it and
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take it safely and so we need to understand and respect that. >> reporter: in his latest research, which is now undergoing a peer review, monte tracked the 2600 marijuana- attributable patnt visits to the emergency department at uchealth university of c oorado hospitr the last five years. the number of emergency paents with marijuana-related symptoms who visited the hospital made up less than one percent of all vitors to the e.r. but monte found of those, medical events like hallucinations, occurred at a greater rate for edible users when compared with patients who smoked the drug. >> clearly edibles seemed to have a more severe toxicity than inhaled agents and it seems that much of this is actually psychiatric in nature. >> reporter: while dr. monte rns of the unpredictability of edibles, little research has been done on their effects. pot proponents say consumers have been empowered to use them responsibly for years, with few problems.
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>> it's more about theed ation. start low and go slow. i'll even advise people if they're really unsure to cut one of those in half. >> reporter: brian nowak is the general manager at the simply pure dispensary in denver colorado. >> i understand the caution. i just think that now we really need to focus on the research and education so that we can start basing things off of facts and science rather than just being scared of a new industry. >> rorter: there is no consistent method for tracking violent incidents linked to edibles. our reporting found only a handful of cases across the country nce 2014 were so nvolent they made news. a brief search of 911 logs shows over a four-year period shows at least 91 documented reports ole- related calls. incident hallucinations to violent reactions. >> with very few-- oneo people-- of negative cases out of how many millions of people use cannabis every single day and have for the last 50 years?
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i mean basing things off very few instances is where i'm having the bigger issue. >> i think that the best thing that we did was limit what was the maximum dosage that could go into any one edible product. >> reporter: dr. kari franson is an associate professor of clinical pharmacy at the teiversity of colorado, who helped draft the s marijuana regulations. >> with edibles there is a delay in getting the drug into the system because it has to be swallowed it has to be broken un he gastrointestinal tract and it has to be absorbed. t that ce anywhere from 30 minutes to a few hours.in how much getan vary depending on what somebody ate that day. if they're on another drug if they just exercised that day how eimuch fluid they have in system. there's a lot of different fact >> reporter: meanwhile, the push for marijuana legalization is growing. oregon and alaska have the most restrictive ible serving sizes, at five milligrams of
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t.h.c. in each.ns and dof others are considering or implementing new marijuana regulations, my looking to colorado for guidance. >> i'd say we've been really diligent in identifying issues and responding to them quickly. >> reporter: colorado's marijuana coordinator dominique mendiola says the state is frequently updating its rules to reflect the changing market. in 2018, the state addressed an increasing number of childreng accessrijuana by preventing manufacturers from making edibles that look like tempti fruit or animal shapes. required testing of edibles now checks for consistency and potency. it may never be clear exactly how the marijuana edible affected richard kirk on the night he murdered his wife kris. >> i think a lot of people are affected by the deep sorrow about what happened. i hope that they think about t kris, thnk about the people that are making the laws. rywould hope that kris' me
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would stay in the forefront >> reporter: as more states consider legalizing recreational marijuana, the research into the effects of edible marijuana will only become more important. for the pbs newshour i'm lori ja. gliha in denver, colora dr >> wf: over the weekend, thousands gathered in d.c. and other cities as part of the annual women's march, now in its third year. b organizers firlt the march on a message of inclusivity. but they're now faciticism from groups who claim they've been left out or pushed aside. amna nawaz has a closer look at the challenges of sustaining a modern, political movement. >> nawaz: under grey skies, and through a frosty chill, they marched. thousands of women in washington, d.c., joined byhu
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reds of protests across the country, for the third annual women's march. many inspired by the collectivef ca change after the 2016 election. >> i felt abused by my political system. i felt used. i felt like it didn't represent me, i felt like my voice wasn't heard, i felt like i didn't have a voice. >> nawaz: the day after the 2017 inauguration of donamp, an unprecedented mass movement. five million people, in over 60w cities and towldwide, rallied in response. the issues ran the g: gender equality, black lives matter, l.g.b.t.q. renhts, environmlists. it's believed to be the largest, single-day protest in american history. the ideas came together under a single entity, women's march inc., led by four won: bob bland, carmen perez, linda sarsour, and tamika maory. lead organizers who became the faces of the movement. the 2018 march inspired slightly
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smaller crowds. fueled by the me tooement, calls for gun reform after the parkland and las vegas shootings, and focused on voter turnout ahead of the midterm elections. posting on social media, not enough. there's much more at stake here than that! >> nawaz: that nhiember saw an oric number of women win elected office. at the same time the women's march itself came under increasing criticism. from the beginning, housing many, diverse causes under a single umbrella was a challenge. early criticism included a failure to highlight the disproportionate struggles faced by women of color, conservativec women,ding pro-life groups, claimed they were excluded and preceding, this year's march, accusations of anti-semitism. those charges centered on
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mallory's association with nation of islam leader louis farrakhan, an iconic and influential advocate for black america, who's also repeatedly made anti-semitic remarks. key backers of the march, including some democratic leaders, stepped away.re cowoman debbie wasserman schultz wrote, "while i still firmly believe in its values anc mission,not associate with the national march's leaders and principles, which refuse to completely repudiate anti- semitism and all forms of bigotry. sarsour responded on behalf of the women's march, writing: "we are deeply invested in building better and deeper relationships with the jewish community. and we're committed to deepening relationships with any community who has felt left out of this movement. we want to creatspace where all are welcome." and mallory explained her refusal to outright condemn farrakhan on "the breakfast club" radio show... >> i have not condemned the man who killed my son's father. i have never denounced the i've never talked about them in
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a condemnation context. >> nawaz: the controversy carried over into this year's march. >> the women's march does not represent jewish people. j >> and to ish sisters, do i see all of you. i ca sisters and we will complete and job and no one will be discarded from this movement. >> nawaz: the three-year-old movement now confronts the challenge of moving its masses rward in unity. and organizers have released a political agenda to mobilize supporte into 2020 and beyond. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz, in washinon. >> woodruff: yesterday marked the halfway point in president trump's first term as the government shutdown stretches into a second month. a perfect time for politics
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monday. i'm joined by amy walter from the "coopolitical report" and tamara keith from npr. hello to both of you. it is "politics monday." so let's talk about ts shutdown, standoff, amy.e over t weekend, as we said, the president made an offer, did some tweaking and id what -- made what he said was a significant move on his part. demoats, before it was even announced, said they were against it. is there any pressure now on democrats to cut somkind of deal, or can they just wait the president out? >> well, that's what we're going to wait and see, where the essure goes. until this point, it's been pretty clear in all the daand polling that the blame is being put squy ar president trump's shoulders and we note he did say many times "i own the shutdown," so that's diffict to get out from under. it's also true that democrats, in polling that we've seen, feel
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more -- decratic voters feel much more committed to democrats sticking by their commitment to not include the wall in any compromise than republicans are committed to not having a compromise without a wall. in other words, the wall is a much bigger issue right now, believe it or not, for democratic voters tit is for the republican voters. this is trump space and they're going toant it, but the opposition to it is much stronger. so what we'll have to see as we go through this process is if the decision by the president to say, hey, i've come to the table, it's your tutorn, now sit down and hear that compromise out rather than just pointing fingers and saying it's all your fault and we're not going to listen to you. but as i said, we still have a long way theo go to that pied ce ether it's more compromise or simply both sid pushing the issues on to the table that never committed to working on
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them together. >> woodruff: but we are a month into this. people are going without paychecks who work for the federal government. can democrats wait it out? >> democrats traditionally have been the party w wants th government reopened not just in this but every government shutdown. they typically cry uncle first because they're pretty pro government andant the government open and functioning. this shutdown has moved in sl, motiobably not for the people who are working without pay. for them it has been excruciating. but the negotiations sch as they are, are in slow motion. there is no shuttle diplomasy. this speech that the president gave was him making an offer. there was no private offer -- there was no pre-offer made to democratic leaders, that was the offer. the remarcoble thing is he d have made that offer two weeks earlier in his prime-te
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dress, and he didn't do it then, he didn't offer anything then, and it dragged on for two more weeks. >> woodrf: but the white house is saying we have moved and the democrats haven. so -- >> and the democrats are going to say we have moved, too'r -- agreeing to this and these, these are our points that we a willing to negotiate on. that's when you -- to tam's point, that's when you get the teams together behind thscenes and do the work. >> woodruff: it's just they won't negotiate with the wall. >> democrats, also, their position has been -- and this has not changed -- that they are happy to negotiate but once the lovernment is open. >> woodruff: exay. and that is -- there's been no movement on that. >> woodrf: right. the buzzfeed article that came out last friday, early friday. amy, the press was all over this story, basically saying that the special counsel has solid information that the pretosident his former private attorney to lie to congress.
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at the end of e day, friday night, the special counsel's office issues what seems likae pretty significant denial. so this is not accure. >> right. what if we learned from this episode? >> well, you know, watching members of congress react to this was intsperesting. ke to joaquin castro, sits on the intelligence committee, and he tweeted, if this story is true, the president should resign or should be impeached. his point overall, and i sort of picked this up from other democrats, too, is a frustratiow about how mueller is moving. remember, it's really been republicans up to this point that have said we need mueller to move fal and rese this if he has anything. now it's democrats who really wa to see this or, they say, a lot of stuff's going to come out through other reporting or our congressional hearings but it would be better mueller put this all to rest as quickly as possible. >> and we can't be sure because the special counsel doesn't talk
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to us or anyone else. the reason, i think, that peter rr, the spokesman who never seakers felt compelled to put out thtement because so many members of congress, because this story particular pointed to something that very clearly would be a crime, you had so many members of congress saying, we're going to have to do something about it, if true. >> woodruff: right. but that left a big cloud hanging out there. >> woodruff: all right, last thing i want to ask both of you about today. we had yet another democrat in saying i am interested in running -- aam running for president, this time the eshman senator from california, kamala haris. i won't name all the others. what do we make of the fact that these are ones of that group? >> it's something that really stands out.
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there are two white men in the group you puup the and the rest are people of color, women or both. the other fascinating ing, many are younger candidates, have been in politics maybe the last 15 or 20 years, but even they are starting what we're talking about now within the beltway as a sort of apology tour and having to explain to voters the positions they took. gillibrand has only beeinn lved in national politics since 2006 but she has to explain herotes on immigration when in a more conservative district. katherine harris is going to be asked a lot about her decisions -- kamala harris -- a lot about her decisions when she was a prosecutor, an attorney general, going too far on the prosecution part.
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and, so, the democratic party has moved substantially to the left on a whole bunch of issues that even, whckn bra wrack was first running, were considered mainstream. >> woodruff: 30 secds. you talk about joe biden. he's a big figo ure asn't said what he's doing yet but in npr pbs marist poll, he had thes hifavorables, highest known quantity, lowest unfavorables of all the names that are out there. if he were to actually run, that might run into a se of reality or memory of some of the things that he was involved in so many years ago, because he's been in public life for a long time. >> woodruff: but feeling comfortably he doesn't have to get in right now but you're saying needs to get in soon. >> yes. >> woodruff: tamera kei, y walter, "politics monday," thank you. >> you're welcome.
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>> woodruff: on martin luther king day, we retur fto a segment st brought you last year, about an effort to revive one of dr. king's snature programs. he called it, "the poor people's ngcampaign," aimed at redu poverty, inequality, and tackling issues of social injustice. he started the program a little more than 50 years ago.or shy before his death in 1968, dr. martin luther king junior expanded his civil rights campaign to include calls for economic justice. he called for an economic revolution that included protection and services for th poorest americans. he would call it the poor people's campaign. >> this campaign we're coming to get our check. >> woodruff: the campaign would bring together poor people from across the country, and from across racial, ethnic and geographic lines, including poor whites, for a march on washington.
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>> even if you have to bring w yole family, we are going to have in washington facilities and we're going to have food and we're going to demand theso government dthing about these conditions. >> woodruff: the first step was to construct a shantytown called resurrection city on the national mall, housing thousands of participants in a form of nonviolent civil disobedience. dr. king himself would never t make it march on washington. he died that spring. but weeks after his assassination, 50,000 people gathered in solidarity, demanding economic reform on the steps where dr. king had professed "i have a dream."co >> w with an appeal to open the doors of america to almost 50 million americans who have not been given a fair share of america's wealth andit
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opportand we will stay >> woodruff: half a century later a group of religious and moral leaders are planning a wave of civil disobedience in washingtona revival of the poor people's campaign.it headed in part by the reverend william barber, who's the co-chair of the campaign. he led demonstrators at a rally in front othe u.s. capitol and he was arrested, alongside the reverend jesse jackson, a key figure in the 1968 movement. when the original poor people's campaign took place, it waye50 s ago, dr. martin luther king was involved. after he wasssassinated, it ntinued, but what is the connection between then and now? >> let me say the connection, first of a, it did continue. people realized dr. king was right. racism, poverty and militarism were interconnected. the connection is today is we commission a study with the
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institute for policy studies and something called the souls of poor folk, auditing america 50 r the poor people's campaign. what did we find today? 140 million poor and low wealth people today. there are 250,000 people that die every year from low wealth.t we have lessg rights today because the gutting of the r votihts act than in 1965. we have 62 million people whor work less e living wage and 14 million children in poverty. >> woodruff: those numbers are overwhelming, they're daunting. you're not proposing to do away with poverty, are you? >> we are saying there are five interlocking injustices that america has to face because they continue to cause policy violence -- that is, systemic racism particularly seen through the lens of voter suppression where people use vot suppression to get elected and then pass policies that hurtpohe , mostly white women,en
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chilnd the working poor.on the wore, y and militarism and the false moral narrative of adligious nationalism that say you don't have tess those issues, we are saying, yes, america will have to face these five interlocking injustice and change them. >> woodruff: why can't you work to elect political figures who agree with your agenda? >> well, several reasons. number one, we had 26 presidential debates in the last presidential election on the democratic and republican side. not one hour was spent on poverty. not one hour was spent on voter suppression and restoring the voting rights act. not one hour on the war economy and militarism. so if we're not even having the conversation -- the first thing we have to change is the attention violence. we have the attention violen when it comes to the poverty and the poor and we must change that before you can change the agenda, and there must be a moveme of the people from the
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bottom up. when you look at our deepest moral framework of the constitution and our deepest moral values of our religious tradition, we, too, often hava political conversation that talks about left versus right, military or middle class, that's y o narrow. 43.5% of this coun poor and low wealth. people are dying. even an economist said america has to face the cost inequality. what i'm saying is we can't just have a left-right argument anymore. we need to hava deeply moral argument that says this is not just about democrats or republicans, this is about america. what kind of democracy do we want to be? you cannot have a democracy continue to exist when 400
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people make an average of $97,000 an hour and you lock people up who simply w in the union. >> woodruff: does either political party come close to your goals? >> i think they can. but the reality is neither party is willing to put right in front of ameri issues of systemic racism and systemic poverty and ecological devastation and war economy and say the word poverty. it's almost as though we'veev tried to remov saying the word poverty, when, in fact, th majority of or people in this country are white women and children, working people and the disabled. so we have to change our narrativin this country, and the only way you can change the narrative is to change the narrator. that's why this campaign is focused on three things, breaking through the narra massive voter mobilization among the poor and power building from the bottom up. >> woodruff: rev. william barber, co-chair of the poor people's campaign in 2018. thank you very much. >> thank you so much.u. thank
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