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ning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judyoodruff. on the newshour tonight, a month into the government shdown, no signs of progress since president trump offered temporary protection for some undocumented immigrants in exchange for border wall funds. then, how the f.b.i. cracked the text messages of notorious mexican drug cartel leader joaquin "el chapo" guzman. and, as legalizing marijuana is etaken up by more states, explore the potential link between marijuana edibles and psychosis. >> clearly edibles seem to have a more severe toxicity than inhaled agents and it seems that much of this is actually psychiatric in nature. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> woodruff: the partial federal government shutdown has now entered its fifth week, with no signs the impasse is any closer to being broken. the senate will vote tomorrow on president trump's proposal t protect some undocumented immigrants in exchange for border wall funding. but democrats are expected to reject it. we'll take a closer look at where things stand, and how the shutdown is impacting the country, later in the program. taliban fighters carried out a brazen attack on a heavily- fortified afghan intelligenceay base tkilling more than 100 people. most of the victims weremi tary personnel. the base, which trains new recruits, is located in wardak province. the attackers detonated a stolea military humveed with explosives. that allowed more militants to infiltrate the com fire inside. british prime minister theresa
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may today unveiled her "plan b" for leaving the european union. it comes a week after her original deal to exit the bloc was trouncedn parliament. paul brand of independent television news has our report. >> it is clear the government's approach had to change, and it has. >> reporter: though you'd struggle to notice. the prime minister's next steps will retrace her previous ones. she's sticking to her deal, and still trying to tweak the rthern irish backstop. there were new concessions to tootect workers' rights an waive fees for e.u. citizens seeking settled stat. but the prime minister refused to rule out leaving without a deal. and was adamant there'll be no second referendum. >> a second referendum could damage social cohesion by undermining faith in our democracy. >> reporter: that's stronger anan she's said it before, but little else has d. >> what makes her think that what she tried to renegotiate in december will succeed in january.
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mr. speaker, this really ds feel a bit like groundhog day. >> reporter:ut the tactic now isn't to win over his party, but her own. f the government was genuinely listening to you today or is the prime minister stuck on her plan a? >> well that's what we've heard. plan b looks very much like plan a, and we need to move forward from that. with a defeat of 230, on that scale, we have to be looking at an alternative here. >> repter: and if the prime minister doesn't have one, m.p.s are threatening to force their own. me of this group will back attempts, to give parliament control. mainly to stop britain leaving without a deal. >> she is really struggling to find a way forward, and if she can't do her job, it is the job of parliamentarians to standp and play their part.>> eporter: some people say you're just a load of remainers trying to steal brexit. >> well in the end, we are members of parliament who havey to decide a waforward. >> is plan a still your plan b prime minister? >> reporter: today theresa may
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was welcoming her counterpart from new zealand. nice to see a far-flung ally. but she's still lackin here at home. >> woodruff: that report from paul brand of independent television news. israel confirmed it launched airstrikes against iranian military sites near damascus, syria early today. they targeted a military training camp, intelligence site and storage facility. 11 people died. today's strikes were in response to an iranian rocket fired at israel on sunday. it was intercepted by israel's iron dome defense system near golan heights. back in this country, the death toll froutal winter storm that lashed the eastern to atver the weekend ro least five people. today's temperatures across the region were more than 20 degrees below normal, as parts of new ogland attempted to dig o mre than a foot of snow. wind chills nearus 40 degrees in upstate new york and vermont. k u.s. senatala harris of
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california has bec ae the latest rowing field of democrats to announce a presidential run in 2020. harris bypassed launchina tesidential exploratory committee, and optjump straight in to her campaign. she made the announcement on abc's "good morning america." >> my entire career has been focused on keeping people safe. it is probably one of the things that motivates me more than anything else. and when i look at this moment in time, i know that the american people deserve to have somebody who is going to fig for them, who is going to see them, who will hear them, who will care about them, who will be concerned about their experience and put them in front of self interest. >> woodruff: the first-term senator is a former prosecutor and california attorney general. a chinese scientist who claimed to have created the world's first gene-edited babies has been fired from his university job. that's according to chinese state media. chinese investigators determined he jianku evaded oversight anded
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violthical guidelines when he editegenes for twin girls, to help make them resistant to the aids virus. their report said he acted alone and will be punished. cochina reported today itsmy grew at its slowest pace inst al0 years. the chinese economy expanded just 6.6% in 2018, amid a trade dispute with the u.s. china also said its population growth rate declined last year. it's now at just under.4 billion people.me the gove estimates it will peak in 2029. a new report from the anti- poverty group oxfam says global income inequality is "out ofrm control", and g women especially. the group said fortunes for billionaires grew by 12%ast year, while the poorest half of the globe saw their wealth decrse by 11%.
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oxfam international's executive director called uponhe world's wealthiest to correct the disparity. >> the richest people in the world, the most powerful people in the world, the political leaders of the world need to take action to reduce extreme inequality bause it is out of control. it's widening, it's hurting our economies, slowing our economies, it's underminincr dey, it's trapping people in poverty. >> woodruff: the group released its report before the world economic forum gets underway tomorrow in davos, switzerland. americans remembered dr. martinr luing junior's contributions today, just days after what would have been the slain civil rights leader's 90th birthday. president trump and vice president pence laid a wreath at king's memorial in washington. while across the u.sse communities ed the holiday with parades and marches in his honor.
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and, a passing to note: tony mendez, the former c.i. spy who inspired the award- winning movi"argo" died saturday in maryland. he'd suffered from parkinson's disease. mendez worked for the c.i.a. for 25 years, mostly creating disguises and forging documents. in 1980, he helped smuggle six u.s. diplomats out of tehran during the iran hostage crisis, by disguising them as a canadian film crew. tony mendez was 78 years old. still to come on the newshour after 31 days, there's still no sign of compromise on theut wn. catching the world's most wanted drug lord. the potential risks of using marijuana edibles, and much more. f: >> woodray 31 of the partial government shutdown, and still no deal.
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as white house corresponent yamiche alcindor reports, president trump's latest proposal to end the shutdown was frt with unified oppositio congressional democrats. >> alcindor: on monday in washington, president trump made a quick visit to the martin luther king memorial. a he laid a wreathe monument. t he didn't take questions and did not discuss his weekend proposal to re-open the government.ea it's ademocrats have flatly rejected. >> i want this to end. it's got to end now. >> alcindor: on saturday, president trump doubled down on his demand for $5.7 billion fund a wall on the southern border. in exchange, he offered extend temporary protections for three years for two groups of immigrants in the united state the first group includes about 700,000 daca recipients. they are immigrants brought to the u.s. illegally as children. their legal status is uncertain. president obama initially gavero themctions but in 2017, president trump moved to take
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those away. the second group is 300,000 immigrants with temporary protected status. many are people who fled wars and natural disasters in their native countries. in a statement, speaker of the house nancy pelosi rejected the proposal as "a non-starter" of "previously rejectedve initia" senate republicans, including lindsey graham of south carolina, applauded the deal on twitter. but, the president also faced backlash from within his own party. some right-wing conservatives quickly claimed the proposal was "amn." on sunday shows, vice president tried to drum up support but he came under fire for comparing mr. trump's demand for a border wall to the work of rev. dr. martiluther king jr. >> he inspired us to change through the legislative process to become a more perfect union.h that is exactl president trump is calling on the congress to do. come to the table in a spirit of good faith. >> alcindor: this week, senatejo
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ty leader mitch mcconnell is expected to introduce the president's plan on the senate floor. ghe hopes the proposal wi a vote. white house officials say they have been talking to rank and file democrats about the esident's plan. it's a long shot, but they are hoping some democrats will break with democratileaders and support the deal, judy. >> woodruff: that's very interesting. so when leader mcconnell puts it on the floor this week, what do we think's going to happen? >> well, the republicans r tally wamake the case that democrats are the reason why people won't get paid this week. they're trying to shift the p rrative because there's video of president trying he's happy to own the shupt and would be proud to shut town the government so mitch mcconnell is trying to bring thaback. he's going to bring the president's proposal to the floor andng ad something democrats like -- billions of doll fs in disasterunds for communities hit by hurricanes d extending violence to
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women's act .ouse democrats will pass theirin' set of bills bt those won't go anywhere either. >> woodruff: the demerocratic lesaid there's no way they're going to support this. if it goes down, hat happens? >> president trump seems to be edging closer and closer to declare nacialg emergency. open saturday, white house officials gathered a few group of reporters including myself to have a pretty intimate meeting about the president's proposal. acting chief of that hae mick mulvaney said the president is still thinking of declaring a national emergency. he said the president doesn'ts want to do tht if democrats don't deal, they're going to be the ones for people nogettin paid and federal workers continued to be furloughed. so white house officials souurnd nt but because the president wants to put his stamp on that.s >> woodrufill pointing
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the blame at the president. so let me tur yamiche, to special counsel. late friday nightmurobert ler's office issued a statement about the buzzfeed story which, in essence, was citing sources that president trump directed his then personal attorney michael cohen to lie to congress. now, the special counsel statement said -- and i'm quoting here -- buzzfeed's description specific statements to t special counsel's offi and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office regarding michaeo cohen's congrel testimony are not accurate. so how is the white house reading this? m what does than for this story? >> well, i can't stress enough how incredibly rare it is for the special counsel's office to put out a statement like this. most of% the time, 90f the time when reporters reach out to that office, they say no comment. so in this case it's being viewed as a big deal that they come o with the statement. and "the washington post" is reporting that inside the doj
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this is a huge deal and seen as mueller's offices saying most of the story is inaccurate. the other thing to note is thids co short-lived but president trump is praising the special counsel's office. usually he's saying this is all a witch hunt and this is a hoax, but the president said ite apprechem putting out this statement. we should de mueller could indict someone close toum president as soon as tomorrow and came out with a quote saying president trump obstructed justice. ut woodruff: so much that we don't know ab what the special counsel is doing it. >> this statement is saying buzzfeed, you've got this wrong, but they haven't said anything abouthe other reports out there. if they're saying this is wrong, everything else s right, president trump could be in hot water here. >> woodruff: we sha se, yamiche alcindor, thank you.
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>> woodruff: many survivors of domestic violence rely on government funded programs to keep them safe and financially stable in times of crisis. the u.s. justice department overes a number of federal grants that support state and local domestic violence shelters. two of those proams fall under laws known as the violence against women act, which administers federal grants to organizations that protectim viof domestic abuse and stalking, and the victims of crime act, whi provides federal support to state and local programs that house and assist victims of dostic violence. now that the standoff over a current spending bill has cut off justice department funds, organizations that rely on those monies are in flux, saving as much of their current reserves as possible, since reimbursements from the federal government are no longer guaranteed. we spoke with diana brown and cato kraft, who operate estes valley crisis advocates in esteo park, do, near denver:
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it's the only domestic violence shelter in the area. they shared their concerns as the shutdown continues. >> i guess one of the biggest f concer us is that we were researching and trying to apply for funds to replace the heating. we've go the heater is not good. it's going to go out afutime and thoss are frozen. so you know we hope that we're not going to gat faced with >> we operate a nine-bed shelter and if it was an option where the furnacwodid go out we d have to find a different location for all of our people. >> woodruff: and the shutdown also continues to impact some avelers. the transportation security administration announced yesterday that the agency e experienced a national r ten percent of unscheduled employee absences. that's one out of ten employees, compared to just 3.1% on the same day last year. many employees are reporting
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that they are not able to come to work due to financial limitations. while national average wait times are within normal ranges, according to t.s.a., some airports experienced longer than usual wait times. ly >> woodruff: a tigecured federal courthouse in brooklyn e november, the trial of one of the world's most-wanted men. he was a billionaire, and carten boss; accused of ordering murders and running one of world's most-profitable, and deadly, drug syndicates. sen court was adjourned t past friday, hari sreenivasan spoke with a reporter covering the trial, and the man known as "el chapo." >> he is the world's most infamous and ruthlesdrug kingpin and his federal trial in new york has produced one explosive revelation after another with a story line equalg parts gaster movie and soap
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opera. joaquin "el chapo" guzman ran the sinaloa xrtel in meico, an international drug operation he used almost as a license to print money and kill anyone who stood in his way. guzman was repeatedly cap mtured byican authorities and escaped from priceson twithe last time in 2015 through a nearly mile-long tunnel dug hisht into the shower of cell. he was recaptured inn 2016 ad extradited to the u.s. for more, we're joined by keegan hamilton, u.s. editor of vice newsnd host of vice news podcast chapo kigpin on tral. thanks for being with us. you have been in the courtroom alweek, given what just went by, you've got testimony from a mistress, a drug kingpin, his wife in the stands. this is all real life. >> it was a pretty remarkable week in the urtroom, and like you said, it felt like a soap opera at times with chapo's
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mistress on the witness stand, his wife in the gallery, and the text between chapo and his mistress displayed ointhe screen he courtroom for everyone to see. it was quite the drama. >> there's the picture question here of the levels of corruption that might have existed between el chapo, the former esident of mexico, and now there's some indication possibly members ingn the campf the current president? >> that's correct. there wereeveral bomb shelters this week. as you mentioned, the biggest one with the alegation that chapo and the sinaloa cartel paid a $10miion bribe to enrique pe peña nieto, the form president of mexico. after that we saw a court document unsealed an allegation that in 2006 the current present mexico, a member of his campaign may have receivea bribe from members of the sinaloa cartel. >> what did the former and
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current presidents say to all this? >> outright denial. a former spokespersa for p nieto called the allegations false and inflammatory.r the rent president obador said the testimony is coming from a witness in the united states andherefore should not be believed. >> one thing that's interesting is the tech savviness of hs infrastructure -- encrypted cell phone networks,y he abil spy on his mistress without her knowing it thrgh her cell phone. >> that was one of the more remarkable relations through the past month. one of the key and most damning witnesses who testified so fars colombian who was hired to be the sinaloa cartel's i.t. guy and built a custom-encrypted communations network that by all accounts was working great until the f.b.i. approached that guy and turd him into an informant and gave the law enforcesent accto the
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servers which allowed them to record all the conversations chapo wahaving with basically everyone in his business. as for the spireware, that was chapo's own doing when hemm installed cial spyware on the phones of his wife and mistresses and all those communications were recorded, and the sagme i.t. gave the f.b.i. access to that data as well. >> did chapo react in any waya when his voiceplaying outer through the courtroom? >> no when his crois was pying in the courtroom so much. normally he's pretty stoic, staring down witnesses on the witness stand, talking to attorneys or catching his wife's attention in the gallery.mo hi notable reaction is when his mistress was testifying and we were seeing the messages that were both embarrassing an highly incriminating and he sort of hung his head a little bit and seemedo be staring down in
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his lap which is really the first time we've seen any sign of defeat o el chapo throughout the course of the trial. >> let's not forget, this is a n who sat on top of a very aolent cartend financed by moving enormous sums of drugs. at's the scale we're talking about? >> just this week, we saw the f.b.i. give evidence about a drug ledger that was obtained urg a raid on one of chapo's properties and, in the course of a little over a month, we're talking about three dollars million worth of drugs more or less that moved through the orghanization and tat's just what was contained in that one e dger that they know about. i think it's sato say tens of millions, hundreds of millionsla of d per year are moving through this organization. the u.s. authorities haven't been able to seize any assets oo chapo, so w knows how much he has squirreled away in mexico and elsewhere. the scale of drugs se norms, hundreds of thousands of kilos
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of drugs. the federal prosecutors, when they filed these cha hoped to seize $14 billion from chapo. that seems kind of like a fantasy at this point as they found none of that money, but it gives u a sense of wht u.s. authorities think they can prove the worth of the drugs that he trafficked into the united states over the years is. >> and for people who dn't know the landscape, how violent, how big was this cartel or is this we see numbers as high as 250,000 people killed in this drug war. >> i mean, theinaloa cartel is the largest and most powerful drug trafficking organization in mexico. they are moving drugs across the hemispherend, in mexico, they are, in the past, especially,n have b responsible for a significant amount of the violence. in ciudad juarez, a personal
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dispute between el chapo and another ug trafficker escalated that made juarez for a while the murder capitol of the western hemisphere. >> keegan hamilton, vice news,po "cingpin on trial," thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: the internal controversies of the women's march.wa amer and tamara keith break down the latest politics news. and on martin luther king day, revisiting dr. king's poor people's campaign. the number of states where recreational pot is now legal is owing, now up to 10 states and the district of columbia. many users are consuming rijuana edibles instead smoking the leaf, but the research on the effects of edibles is scarce. from rocky mountain pbs in
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denver, lori jane gliha examines the potential link between marijuana edibles and psychosis. >> a man accused of murdering his wife while she was on the phone with 9. >> reporter: in april 2014, richard kirk did the the father of three opened his tmily safe, retrieved his gun, and shot his wife head. >> who else is interested in the truth? >> me! it's you and me right here. >> so far, no one is interested in the truth. >> reporter: this footage from questioning at the police station shows a confused kirk not long after he pulled the trigger. >> if you can't affo a lawyer, one will be appointed to you without cost to you before questionin do you understand each of these rights that i have read to you? >> i was kind of spaced out >> okay, we can go over them again.
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>> yes please. >> reporter: he blamed the murder on a marijuana-infused edible gummy, which at the time was newly legalized fo recreational consumption in colorado. >> that s the worst decision i have ever made in my life. >> reporter: this is the first interview kirk has given. the prison wouldn't permit video cames inside, but we were allowed to record audio. >> i know without any doubt that if i did not eat that marijuana, my wife and family would still be together today. i know that with a cer >> reporter: it is the first time since the murder in 2014 that he has spoken publicly. and despite a history of marital tr, financial issues, and allegations he had a shortti temper, he insists the marijuana edible made him do it. >> i didn't know it was my wife! i thought it was somebody else i gus. that's the only way i could have
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done it. i never er once thought about even hurting my wife or pushing her or anything. >> reporter: whether you believe his story or not, colorado regulators did make significant changes after that incident, by restricting serving sizes, limiting the psychoactive ingredient, t.h.c., in each serving to 10 milligrams, withor nothan 100 milligrams in a single package. and one marijuana researcher e has new evidence linki edibles to psychiatric complications in the emergency room. >> there seem to be a disproportionate number of visits ssociated with edible cannabis products compared to other products.r: >> reporr. andrew monte sits on colorado's retail h marijuana publlth advisory committee, and has been researching cannabis since 2009. k' also worked as a paid consultant for kdefense team. >> not everybody that takes an edible a hallucinations.have many, many people do take it and
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take it safely and so we need to understand and respect that. >> reporter: in his latest research, which is now undergoing a peer review, moe e tracked 600 marijuana- attributable patient visits toth emergency department at uchealth university of colorado hospital over the last five years. the number of emergency patits with marijuana-related symptoms who visited the hospital made up less than one percent of all visitors to the e.r. but nte found of those, medical events like hallucinations, occurred at a greater rate for edible users when compared with patients who smoked the drug. >> clearly edibles seemed to have a more severe toxicity than inhaled agents and it seems that much of this is actual psychiatric in nature. >> reporter: while dr. monte warns of the unpredictability of edibles, little research has been done on their effects. pot proponents say consumers have been empowered to use them responsibly for years, with few problems.
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>> it's more about theuc ion. start low and go slow. i'll even advise people if they're really unsure to cut one of those ihalf. >> reporter: brian nowak is the general manager at the simply pure dispensary in denver colorado. >> i understand the caution. i just think that now we really need to focus on the research and education so thaan start basing things off of facts d science rather than ju being scared of a new industry. >> reporr: there is no consistent method for tracking violent incidents linked to edibles. our reporting found only a handful of cases across the country sie 2014 were so violent they made news. a brief search of denv logs shows over a four-year period shows at least 91 ledocumented reports of ed related calls. incidents ranging from mild hallucinations to violent reactions. >> with very few-- one or two people-- of negative cases out of how many millions of people use cannabis every single day and have for the last 50 years?
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i mean basing things off very few instances is wre i'm having the bigger issue. >> i think that the best thing that we did was limit what was the maximum dosage that could go into any one edible product. >> reporter: dr. kari franson is an associate professor of clinical pharmacy at the university of colorado, who helped draft the sta marijuana regulations. >> with edibles there is a delay in getting the drug into the system because it has to be swallowed it has to be broken up in the gastrointestinal tract and it has to be absorbed.ak that cananywhere from 30 minutes to a few hours. c how much gets vary depending on what somebody ate that day. if they're on another drug if they just exercised that day how ch fluid they have in th system. there's a lot of different >> reporter: meanwhile, the push for marijuana legalization is growing. oregon and alaska have the most restrictive edible serving sizes, at five milligrams of
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t.h.c. in each. and dozens of others are considering or implementing new marijuana regulations, many looking to colorado for guidance. >> i'd say we've been reallynt dilin identifying issues and responding to them quickly. >> rorter: colorado's marijuana coordinator dominique mendiola says the state is frequently updating its rules to reflect the changing market. in 2018, the state addressed an increasing number of children accessing marijuana by preventing manufacturers from making edibles that look like tempting fru or animal shapes. required testing of edibles now ecks for consistency and potency. it may never be clear exactly how the marijuana edible affected richard kirk on theur night hered his wife kris. >> i think a lot of people aree affected by ep sorrow about what happened. i hope that they think abouthi kris, they about the people that are making the laws. i uld hope that kris' memo
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would stay in the forefront >> reporter: as more states consider legalizing recreational marijuana, the research into the effects of edible marijuana will only become more important. fothe pbs newshour i'm lor janeliha in denver, colorado >> woodruff: over the weekend, thousands gathered in tic. and other as part of the annual women's march, now in its uiird year. organizers first the march on a message of inclusivity. but they're now facingcism from groups who claim they've been left out or pushed aside. amna nawaz has a closer look at the challenges of sustaining a modern, political movement. >> nawaz: under grey skies, and through a frosty chill, they marched. thousands of women in washington, d.c., joined byre
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hundds of protests across the country, for the third annual women's march. many inspired by the collective call for change after the 2016 election. >> i felt abused by my political system. i felt used. i felt like it didn't represent me, i felt like my voice wasn't heard, i felt like i didn't have a voice. >> nawaz: the day after the 2017 inauguration of donald, an unprecedented mass movement. five million people, in over 600 cities and towns worldwide, rallied in response. :the issues ran the gamutal gender equy, black lives matter, l.g.b.t.q. rightli environmentas. it's believed to be the largest, icsingle-day protest in am history. the ideas came together under a chsingle entity, women's m inc., led by four women: bob bland, carmen perez, linda sarsour, and tamika mally. lead organizers who became the faces of the movement. the 2018 march inspired slightly
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smaller crowds. fueled by the me too movement, calls for gun reform after the parkland and las vegas ngs, and focused on vote turnout ahead of the midterm elections.l posting on socdia, not enough. there's much more at stake here than that! >> nawaz: that november saw an historic number of women win elected office. en'she same time the w march itself came under increasing criticism. from the beginning, housing many, diverse causes under a single umbrella was a challenge. early criticism included a failure to highlight thete disproportiotruggles faced by women of color, conservative women, including pro-life groups, claimed they were excluded a preceding, this ar's march, accusations of anti-semitism. those charges center mallory's association with
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tion of islam leader lou farrakhan, an iconic and influential adamcate for black ica, who's also repeatedly made anti-semitic remarks. key backers of the march, including some democratic leaders, stepped away.wo congren debbie wasserman schultz wrote, "while i still firmly believe in its values ano mission, i cassociate with the national march's leaders and principles, which refuse to completely repudiate anti- semitism and all forms of bigotry. sarsour responded on behalf of the women's march, writing: "we are deeply invested in building better and deeper relationships with the jewish community. and we're committed to deepening relationships with any community who has felt left out ofhis movement. we want to create space where all are welcome." and mallory explained her refusal to outright condemn farrakhan on "the breakfast club" radio show... >> i have not condemned the man who killed my son's father. i have never denounced them. i've never talked about them in
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a condemnation context. >> nawaz: the controversy carried over into this year's rch. >> the women's march does not represent jewish people.ew >> and to myh sisters, do i see all of you. i cameo do a job with my sisters and we will complete and job and no one will be discarded from this movement. >> nawaz: the three-year-old movement now confronts the sschallenge of moving its forward in unity. and organizers have released political agenda to mobilize supporters into 2020 and beyond. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz, in washington. >> woodruff: yesterday marked the halfway point in president trump's first term as the government shutdown stretches into a second month. a perfect time for politics
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monday. i'm joined by amy walter from the "cook political report" and tamara keith from npr. hello to both of you. it is "politics monday." so let's talk about this shutdown, standoff, amy. over th weekend, as we said, the president made an offer, did some tweaking and sad what -- made what he said was a significant move on his par democrats, before it was even announced, said they were against it.n is therepressure now on democrats to cut some kind of deal, or can they just wait the esident out? >> well, that's what we're going to wait and see, where thepr sure goes. until this point, it's been pretty clear in all thea datd polling that the blame is being put squonarel president trump's shoulders and we note he did say many times "h own thtdown," so that's difficult to get out from under. it's also true that democrats, in polling that we've seen, feel
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more -- democratic voters feel much more committed to demra sticking by their commitment to not include the wall in any compromise than republicans are committed to not having a wampromise without a wall. in other words, th is a much bigger issue right now, believe it or not, for democratic voters than it is for the republican voters. this is trump spand they're going to want it, but the opposition to it is much stronger. so what we'll have to see as we go through this process isf the decision by the president to say, hey, i've come to the table, it's your turn, now, to sit down and hear that compromise outather than just pointing fingers and saying it's all your fault and we're not going to listen to you. but as i said, we still hhe a long wayo go to that piece and whether it's more com or simply both sides pushing the tssues on to the table tha never committed to working on
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them toget br. >> woodruft we are a month into this. people are going without paychecks who work for the federal government. can democrats wait it out? >> democrats traditionally have been the party who wants the government reopened nojust in this but every government shutdown. they typically cry uncle first because they're pretty pro government and wanthe government open and functioning. this shutdown has moved in slowb motion, ly not for the people who are working without pay. for them it has been excruciating. but the negotiations such as they are, are in slow motthion. e is no shuttle diplomasy. this speech that the president gave was him making an offer. there waso private offer -- ther nwaso pre-offer made to democratic leaders, that was the offer. the remarkaule thing is he have made that offer two weeks earlier in his prime-timad
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ess, and he didn't do it then, he didn't offer anything then, and it dragged on for two more weeks. >> woodruff: but the white house is sayg we have moved and the democrats haven't. so -- >> and the democrats are going to say we ha moved, too -- we're agreeing to this andth e, these are our points that we are willing to negotiate on. that's when you -- to tam's point, that's when you gt the teams together behind the scenes and do the work. y> woodruff: it's just th won't negotiate with the wall. >> democrats, also, their positi has been -- and th has not changed -- that they are happy to negotiate but once the government is open. >> woodruff: exactly. and that is -- there's beeno noement on that. >> woodruff: right. the buzzfeed article that cam out last friday, early friday. amy, the press was all over this story, basically sayinga t the idecial counsel has so information that the president told his form private attorney to lie to congress.
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c the end of the day, friday night, the specinsel's office issues what seems like a pretty significant denial. so this is not accurate. >> right. what if we learned from this episode? >> well, you know, watching member of congress reactto this was interesting. i spoke to joaquin castro, sits f the intelligence committee, and he tweeted, is story is true, the president should resign or should be impeached. his point overall, and i sort of picked this up from other democrs, too, isa frustration about how slowly mueller is moving. remember, it's really been republicans up to this point h the said we need mueller to move fast and release this if he has any now it's democrats who really want to see this or, they say, a lot of stuff's going to come out through other reporting or our congressional hearings but it would be better if mueller put this all to rest as quickly as possible. >> and we can't be sure because e special counsel doesn't talk
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to us or anyone else. the reason, i think, that peer carr, the spokesman who never speakers felt compelled to put out this statement because so many memrers of co, because this story in particular pointed to something that very early would be a crime, you had so many members of congress saying, we're going to have to do something about it, if true. >> woodruff: right. but that left a big cloud hanging out there. >>oodruff: all right, last thing i want to ask both of you about today. we had yet another demrat in saying i am interested in running -- aam running for president, this time the freshman senator from california, kamala harris. i won't name all the others. what do we make of the fact that these are ones of that group?so >> it'thing that really stands out.
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there are two white men in the group you put up ahed the rest are people of color, women or both. the other fascinating thing, many are younger candidates, have been in politics maybe thet 5 or 20 years, but even they are starting what we're talking about now within theor beltway as a of apology tour and having to expin to voters the positns they took. gillibrand has only been involved in national politics since 2006 but she has to explain her votes on immigration when i a more conservative gostrict. katherine harris ig to be asked a lot about her decisions -- kamala arris lot about her decisions when she was a prosecutor, an attorney general, going too far on the prosecution part.
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and, so, the democrarty has moved substantially to the left on a whole bunchf issues that even, when brack wrack was first running, were considered mainstream. >> woodruff: 30 seconds. you talk about joe biden. he's a big figure who hasn't said what he's doing yebu in npr pbt s marll, he had the highest favorables, highest known quantity, lowest unfavorables of all the names that are out there. if he were to actually run, that might run into a dose of reality or memory of some of the things that he was involved in so many years ago, because he's been in public life for a long time. >> woodruff: but feeling comfortably he doesn't have to get in right now but you're saying needs to get in soon. >> yes. >> woodruff: tamera keith, amy walter, "politics monday," thank you. >>ou're welcome.
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r woodruff: on martin lut king day, we return to a segment we first brought you last year, about an effort to revive one of dr. king's signature programs. he called it, "the poor people's campaign," aimed at reducing poverty, inequality, and tackling issues of social injustice.he he started trogram a little more than 50 years ago. shortly before his death in 1968, dr. martin luther king junior expanded his civil rights campaign to include calls for economic justice.he called for an economic revolution that included protection and services for the poorest americans. he would call it the poor people's campaign. >>g his campaign we're comin get our check. >> woodruff: the campaign would bring together poor people from omross the country, and fr across racial, ethnic and geographic lines, including poor whites, for a march on washington.
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>> even if you have to bring your whole family, we are going to have in washington facilities and we're going to have food ano th're ing to demand the government do sog about these conditions. >> woodruff: the first step was to construct a shantytown called resurrection city on the national mall, housing thousands of participants in a form of ldnviolent civil disobedience. dr. king himself wever make it to the march on washington. he died that spring. but weeks after his assassination, 50,000 people gathered in solidarity, demanding economic reform on the steps where dr. king had profsed "i have a dream." >> we come with an appeal to open the doors of america to almost 50 million americans who have not been given a fair share of america's wealth and
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opportunity and we will stay >> woodruff: half a century latea group of religious and moral leaders are planning a wave of civil disobedience in washington, a vival of the poor people's campaign. it's headed in part by the reverend william barber, who's the cohair of the campaign. he led demonstrators at a rally in front of the u.s. capitol and he was arrested, alongside the reverend jesse jackson, a key figure in the 1968 movement. when the original poor people's campaign took place, it was 50 years ago, dr. martin luther king was involved. after he was assassinated, it continued, but what is the connection between then and now? >> let me say the connection, first of all, it did continue. people realized dr. king was right. racism, poverty and militarism were interconnected. the connecti is today is we commissioned a study with the
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institute for policy studies and something called the souls of poor folk, auditing america 50 years after campaign.ople's what did we find today? 140 million poor and low wealth people today. there are 250,000 people that die every yearrom low wealth. we have less voting rights today because the gutting of the voting rights act than in 1965. we have 62 million people whoe work less for ving wage and 14 million children in poverty. >> woodruff: those numbers are overwhelming, they're daunting. you're not proposing to do away with poverty, are you? >> we are saying there are five interlocking injustices that america has face because they continue to cause policy violence -- that is, systemic racism particularly seen through the lens of voter suppression where people use voter ppression to get elected and then pass policies that hurt th postly white women,nd
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childrenhe working poor. the wore, economy and militaris and the faral narrative of religious nationalism that say you don't have to address those issues, we are saying, yes, america will have to face these five interlocking injustice and change them. >> woodruff: why can't you work to elect political figures who agree with your agenda? >> well, several reasons. number one, we had 26 presidential debates in the last presidential election democratic and republican side. not one hour was spent on poverty. not one hour was spent on voter suppression and restoring the voting rights act. not one hour on the war economy and militarism. so if we're not even having the conversation -- the first thing we have to change is the attention violence. we have the attention violence when it comes to the poverty and the poor and we must change that before you can chang agenda, and there must be a movement of the people from the
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bottom up. when you look at our deepest moral framework of the constitution and our deepest moral values of our religious tradition, we, too, often have a political conversation that talks abouleft versus right, military or cmiddss, that's too narrow. 43.5% of this country r and low wealth. people are dying. even an economist said america has to face the cost of inequality. what i'm saying is we can't just have a left-right argument anymore. we need to have a deeply moral argument that says this is not just aut democrats or republicans, this is about america. what kind of democrabe do we want t you cannot have a democracy continue to exist when 400
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people make an average of $97,000 an hour and you lock people up who simply want 15 in the union. >> woodruff: does either political party come close to your goals? >> i think they can. but the reality is neither party is willing to put right in frone of americassues of systemic racism and systemic poverty and ecological devastation and war economy and say the word poverty. it's almost as though we've tried to remove even saying the word poverty, when, in fact, the majority of the poor people in this country are white women and children, working people and the disabled. so we have to change our narrative this country, and the only way you can change the narrative is to change the narrator. that's why this campaign is focused on three things, breaking through the narrati massive voter mobilization among the poor and power building from the bottom up.>> oodruff: rev. william, barber-chair of the poor people's campaign in 2018. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. thank you.
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