tonight on kqed newsroom, at breakthrough ihe longest government shutdownn history. a presidential race gets a candidate from california. we'll have a round of top political developments. criminal justicere form in california. it w l now bein the hands of voters. one year since recreation pot sales started in the golden state. why the rgest cannabis market still has a long way to go. hello and welcome to kqed newsroom. we begin with compromise, at last, for the partial government shutdown. earlier today, president trump agreed to end the longest government utdown in u. history. > over the next 21 days, i expect that democrats and republicans will operate in good

faith. this is an opportunity for all parties to work together for the benefit of our whole, beautifuln wondation. >> the deal would reopen the federal government for three weeks giving lawmakers time to vote on border security. the ofive-weekng shutdown furloughed 800,000 federal employees and forced th t work without pay. pressure was on president trump and mitch mcconnell to end the joining me now to discuss all of this are president of democracy and color and founder of she the people, amy allison. karla and gop political consultant. welcome to you all. >> thank you. >> this was a bit of a surprise today, right? the announcement ending the shutdown happened, it was remarkable, given heaid he

wouldn't cave in as recently as yesterday an now he backed now with no explanation. why do you think h i did >> the president got schooled, is what. happen he found out from the mother of five and grandmother of nine, nancy pelosi that making deal on capitol hill is not the same as making a deal in his reality show, with his reality show ca. this is a skill set he does not have and she bodyim slammed this week. not just on the shutdown deal, going ba to the state of the union, where he insisted he was going to give it and she said, you know, talk to the hand. i'm in charge here. >> there's no clear date on when he will give the state of the union address. >> we a going to come up with an agreeable date. she said today, it's for people who work. the federal workers are the main issue here.

800,000 of the trump came away with nothing this week, a shutdown that cost $1.3 billion a day, 35 days. we come back to the deal he turned down in the beginning. >> we had a president who really acted like he was kinith unchecked power. now, he's facing a ve skilled politician who has a support of a unified party and she really knows the turf. she's been in politics a long time. he's floundering around. he, for the past couple years has been pulling people into a mud slinging, name calling type of governance, if you can call it that. it's a new day. it feels good. >> you have been soet q that's with the roger stone indictment tt happened today. >> i think three things happen. pollumbers came down and they

are down, even with some in his base. two, no onech noticed of a government shutdown. he heard news of eloyees being impacted. today, air traffic controllers said planes aren't flying. it's the first time the public a woke up said, hey, this has broad term impacts. as karla noted, this is the same deal hefo had b the christmas break. he's back in the same place three weeks from now. quite frankly, i'm surprised he didn't say he is gng use his executive power and fund it out of hisor auy. >> on that note, what are the chances he will get any kind of border wall deal within the next three weeks? >> he won't. 's going to get no deal. he may try to come up with comprehensive immigration reform. made a point and you are right. the democrats are feeling

strong. the way pelosi schled trump unified most of the people in her democratic caucus. she owns tha room. now, you are going to get not just fights onmmigration issues, the investigations that keep coming fast and furious. that's going to be coming up in congress. >> when you have border ecurity, thecrats aren't going to go. they want to be -- >> not necessarily a wall. may do drones, hi-tech border security. >> they have made it clear, they are not for openb ders. they want more border security. you may seene more m on that. that's where both sides can claim victory here. you are ight, she has all the strength behind her. >> how do you think nancyf pelosi,e's inclined, what type of deal will she cut s

both sides get a little bit of something. >> focus on the democratic party. i want to take a moment to remind nancy pelosi supporters, she waskiful in checking the president and refusing to make a deal that was b t for country. but, she needs to keep te rest of her party happy. here in califoia and across the country, we havenassive wins the wing of immigration reform. on the hee of inhumane treatment of migrants and the same policy that is were happening on the border, giving i.c.e. expanded power and human rights abuses without the passage of daca is notoing to fly with the base of the party. >> they are cracking down on the border today. we had a situation are making asylum seekers stay in mexico, waiting r cases to

be adjudicated. we have e a lot of -- to tell the truth to ourself as tic democrparty needs to be a real alternative to what the republicans arehe offering last couple years in terms of immigration. that's going to be pthent at which nancy pelosi, leader of the par to hold the coalition together. have got to not fold when it comes to things that are important to the base. >> they all supported the act of 2006, which provided almost $2 billion in funding for fences and secure borders. there's supposed to be a second fence. d that.dn't funt they are all on the hook. there are half a million people undocumented that come into the country a year. they have to address that issue. i will tell you, it's not going to be drones and blimps. they have to do some sort of barrier that actually works. the issue with regards to, we

are all giving nancy pelosi f kud tooling the president, but she's only better than the guy or galho is her opponent. the republicans stood on the sidelines saying this. mcconnell doesn't want toet involved. the president is in the suit, he's got to get out of the suit. >> they don't come through the wall. they come through airports. the problem with illegal drugs, they come through the ports of entry. this is where trump has a this is where the democrats have the high road at this point. we'll see how that works out. this issue of border security is going to be an issue. i think we a going to see some kind of deals made. >> february 15th is the deadline to watch. let's move on to harris. she announced she is running for president. he is joining a crowd that is crowded and diverse. what does she ned to do to stand out from the pack? >> first of all, it was, you i

know,ions and millions of women of color were cheering when shecentered the race because there hasn't been, in modern nctimes, not s many, many years, 47 years ago,here other black woman had run credibly for president in this country. she's already making history anf comim california, where california is on the calendar, thosef us who live in california are going to start voting feuary 2, in 11 months. it's incredible, you know, h coming in. what it really means is that the way she isan ng with the pack is by a new playbook going straight for the core of the base. if there was a lesson the democrats needed to learn in 2018 in the midterms, thatis the base of the party, the strongest democrats are black women. if you do not win black women, no one, not one of those candidates in the field, even if it's aie crowded will be the party's nominee.

what does harris do? she announces on mlk's birthday. she gave a speech in front of or ving a speech in front of the aka's, one of t major black ser orties. she went to howard. she's pa of that network. she's embracing the congresswoman who ran 47 years ago. what this means is because shes understahe voters she needs to convince and hasck q reaching them and thatrk netwo that's going to be the x-factor. >> she's facing criticism, right? on what some liberals views er tough on crime prosecutor record that in many ways disproportionately affects low income people. what are the things harris did that they are finding problematic? >> it helps her in the states that are on to have her background. she was liberal enough when she

was d.a., not charging copl rs with the death penalty. her problem is going to be inexperience. i have been in the snow fields in new hampshire in the wintertime.e i have in the iowa corn fields. it is tough. it requires unique kind of character. when you have 20 or now 30 democrs, the mayor of south bend, indiana, running against you, how do you distinguish yourself? obama was a dferent character. he came out when democrats supported the gulf war, he was the anti person. he came out against that. it took awle to convince theam africaicans he could win. it was hillary head-to-head with obama. e can raise a lot of money, but does she stand out? she's a great communicator and has a very, very sharp team in san francisco. she's rolling out in oakland, a city with a b lot ofck

history. >> she'll be in oakland monday. >> exactly. r here as prosecutor, interesting. it could cause problems on the left, but it could help her kn gaiher navigate issues. >> she's untested. >> i just want to tal about an untested person that's currently in the hhiteuse. after trump, nobody gets to say anything aboutisexperience. woman is a sitting senator and has a good chance as any. >> we'll leave it there. thank you all. we turn now to criminalic ju reform. jerry brown signed a bill criminal defendants. it's viewed as discriminatory, keeping low income people behind bars because they can't afford to pay. it's been chlenged by a 2020 ballot measure that seeks to ovturn it.

gavin newsome has more. >> helo. let's start with bail reform. the new law to base a person's release on risk, not ability to pay. it's facing a challenge at the ballot box. what aree arguments against this law and why is it creating this process? e> i think there's two buckets here. ail industry, which obviously opposes the law because they don'to want lose their business. there's insurance companies that back those bonds. i think both sides putot a of money into this referendum with the effect to puton this hold for another year. there's civil rights groups that are concerned it gives too much power to judges.

biases sneak into the system. others who walked away from the table and opposed sb-10 are not thrilled the bail indusy are using their words to run the referendum. >> the lu and bill in the same tent. >> they are not, really. we aring to see over the course of the campaign over the next year and half, the cracks will emerge quickly. i don't know that you are going to s the civil rights groups line up. >> what are your concerns about determining who gets bail? the new law does provide for. th >> yeah, so, the way the new law will work, i t's going shift away from your ability to pay, in order to be released, pretrial, to risk. it is a much more sensible approach. the way it will work, when someby gets arrested, they come through the door. they will be assessed by either

pretrial services, entity or a sheriff's department or probation department. they are put in three categories, low risk, medium risk.nd high the low risk should be released right away. mediu risk will be a question mark. it's going to be one of the problems with the law. there's no uniformity rig now. you are going to have 58 w inties implementing the 58 different ways. so, forexample, you will have a lot of peop who are detained in one county and wouldn't in another. >> the way it will be rolled out. >> yeah. >> the other problem that critics use, these pretrial assessments are only as good as theata they have. we know the authors of legislation come heack. have introduced the bill around collecting data as a way to sort of measure whether that data is fairly balanced. you know,k i th what they would say is we have two yes work on this. let's address the challenges and

make it work. >> it's been going on for a long time despite the aclu stepping support ing we don't this version of the bill. isn't having some movement on this better no movement at all? >> in my opinion, getting o rid the cash bill is the thing. it's unfair. the releaci on is based on one's ability to pay. that has bn the main critique for 100 years. the cash bail system started in san francisco, two bartenders on market street started underwriting releases for their clients, their lawyer clients. >> i didn't know them. >> yeah. >> yeah, so i think, yoknow, this is something that theaclu and folks who opposed it were worried aboutit. people who stayed on did see the political moment. it's not clear if they waited until this year and done it

again, if they would have gotten it >> move on to juvenile justice governor newsome working to move it away from correctional systems andunder the control of health and human services. what is the govern hoping to accomplish by doing this? >> if i you move into a place based on social services and through a lens of not criminals e or corrections, maybe you will serve these kids better. i thi there's alot of details we are waiting to hear. all he said soar is we ar going to move it. i think there's questions about what that meanser and whe it will change anything or basically a shuffling on the deck.en >> you have b working on juvenile justice reform for 30 yeayo. what dthink of the governor's plan? >> first of all, i applaud govern newsome. when is the last time a governor took this issue on? the problem is, historically, what governors have done when

faced with problems in the youth correction system, they take the existing institutions and move them someplace else under the belief that's going to change things. the last time was 2005 when governornold schwarzenegger did it. now, here we are in 2019. we have had the same problems manifesting themselves. >> why is that? if you take something away fm the correctional medepat, different staff, different culture, perhaps, or not really? >> that's the problem. take the existing institutions with the existing staff and move them to another entity with, essentially, an administrative umbrella. you have the same staff. you have the same culture. it's not just the culture with the staff,sut the k there. these are violent institutions. a lot of kids come from urban centers, divide into gangs. you have all the gangs that

exist on the street, exist within the institution >> what should be done here, dan? >> my belief is the solution.t we are a point now. we have enough institutional space now, at the countylevel. counties in the last 15 years have built newn detent centers, high security institutions. >> they are at full capacity. >> most of them are at a third of capacity. they could absor the population. a juvenile hall withacity of 367 with 94 kids in it today. 24 in the other. >> just quickly, 50 seconds, whyi you are s is maybe take all of this out of the hands of the state all together and in the hands of the county. >> this is recommended by the hoover institution. held sure the counties are to accountability.

>> the governor created this position, surgeon general, first time ever. he named aan pediatric from san francisco. how might that have an impact on je?enile just >> this appointment of her whose research is around childhood trauma and accountability and their ability to thrive. to have someone like her i a position like that and bring her around with the cjj announcement, he may be looking at it more creatively and open to things d is talking about. everyone thinking surgeon general, you arehinking smoking and health and health care. >> she has an interesting's len. olding her into the discussion. we might see something more creative there. >> thank you so much. >> my pleasure. now, tocalifornia's cannabis industry.iz

legng recreational marijuana statewide was supposed to weaken the black market. one year after the launch of recreational sas, those promises see far from reality. half a billion dollars less than a year before when medical arijuana was legal. meanwhile, theate released the final set of rules for the cannabis delivery. they includeot delivery to consumers 21 and older. joining me n to talk about this is david, californiann is bureau chief for weey.com. >> thanks for having me here. >> why was the estimate less than what was projectewh does that say about california's efforts to reduce the number of people buying pot illegally? >> it's going to take time. three quarters of californ

does not allow physical cannabis consumers can't go in and spend their money. we had the industry contract as medical dispensers became illegal dispensaries. maine didn't make a dollar. nevada started before usut we ellipsed their earnings because we are so big. >> proponents said small producers wouldn't be edged out. has that come true? >> not at all. cannabis has run into larger forces where you need millions and millions of dollars to open up these stores. that's back to licensing. you know how hard it is to run a lemonade stand. the cities and the state is beginning to look at waysto mat easier for small

e businesses, but they fa broader reality in the economy. >> what are things looking at? >> cities like san francisco and oakland create equity programs s and li for small and minority owned businesses. the programs have gone statewide this year. >> this is to help people who are disproportionately affected during the war on drugs. >> that'sight. a lot of them bore the burden of the drug war. a lot of consumers believe they should have access to t legal market. that's starting to occur and starting a national conversation around how to get more legac actors in the legal industry. >> california has a huge surplus of cannabis. the food and agriculture estimates california listed 15 million pounds of cannabis, consumed more. much of that is smuggled eastward. when the surplus is that big, is

it possible t tame the black market? >> over time, definitely. the prices and legal market are collapsing. they are down from00 $ in the '90s per pound down to $1,000 now. with the profits going down, so is the moti to grow it illegally and ship it east. as more and more states legalize it, the black market goes away. >> is there a tipping point or talyst to get us to that point where the legal market overtakes the black market for cannabis? >> it's already happened. farmers say they have lost their shirt in the black market. they have having trouble this year with prices as low as they are. there's leslation pending in washington, d.c. it may end prohibition as we know it in america. that promises to access rate the price decline a the motive to

grow it illegally. >> the state finalized operating under temporary emergency ones. one of the final rules, the more controversial ones allows marijuana deliveries to cities and counties, even t thoset banned pot businesses. how will this affect thed industry is it likely to face legal challenges >> it could. there's opponents of statewide delivery including police and cities who want to control what happens. if you want to undercut it, provide access to californians, especially 75% that are in ban towns. the final rules code the realit the statewide deliverers caneliver in the state and county in the state. the regulled ery is not an option, the black market will be one. you can go on instagram and craigslist and order up

cannabis. consumers need a better option. >> now that we have legalization, what is the cannabis trend for 2019? >> we are going to see a variety of smalleower dose products come out. the cannabis flower bud people are familiar with, the dry one that peopleroll into joints are the most popular. we are seeing edibles, one, two, three, four of thc. you can have an effect like one beer, where it might not affect you at all andou need one, two or three doses to notice that. are seein more specification in terms of the specs you are argetting. yo controlling how strong the effects are, people are dialling in, just pain relief or ust inflammation and seeing cannabis products that decrease appetite instead of stimulate it. >> very interesting, david downs.

cannabis bureau chief, nice to have you here. >> thanks fore. having that will do it for us. you can find more at kqed.org/newsroom. thank you for joining us.

robert: the shutdown. a short-term fix. but the political war is only beginning. i'm robert costa. welcome to "washington week." president trump: i'm very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government. obert: president trump backs a bipartisan deal to reopen the government until mid february. it ends the longest shutdown in y. but conservatives are furious because it does not include money for a border wall. and the president warns if he doesn't get that,e could declare a national emergency. plus -- >> open the door. robert: ertrump ally r stone is arrested in a pre-dawn raid. indicted on sevennt