captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, on the brink of a deal-- congress and the white house inch closer to an agreement on border security to avoid another government shutdown. then, one-on-one w of state mike pompeo as he pushes european allies to take a harder line with iran. plus, when clothes are the canvas. we catch up with ruth carter, the costume designer behind "black panther," now up for an oscar. >> the process of creating superhero costumes is very different than tailoring a suit. and so that process was new to me. but as i got into it i could see that there were lots of things where i could implement my ideas and my art. >> woodruff: all thamore on tonight's pbs newshour.

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>> we're going to look at the legislation when it comes d i'll make a determination then. >> desjardins: f a second day, president trump would not say yes or no on the border deal negotiated in congress. as he met with the president of colombia, mister trump was cautious and complimentary both' >> be looking for landmines because you could have that. it's been known to happen before a people. i apprecia the work the republicans have done becauseoi they're really against a radical left. it's a radical left and they're >> desjardins: negotiators worked on final issues and tweaks to the bipartisan deal. house speaker nancy pelosi acknowledged criticism of the bill, from tle right and the . >> as with all compromises, i say to people, i support the bill for what t in it. judge it for what is not in it. we can't pass it until it's 'lady and when it's ready be ready to pass it. f >> desjardins: the chaire house democratic caucus, new

york congressman hakeem jeffries, was equally optimistic. >> the overwhelming majority of the house democratics will support this legislation that wille presented on the house floor tomorrow. beyond that, we'll see what the president does but i'm hopeful that he will sign this into law. >> desjardins: house minority leader kevin mccarthy was also hopeful. >> if the langua comes out the way the structure is told to me i would support this. >> desjardins: on the senate side, majority leader mitch mcconnell acowledged both parties had to give and take to get to this point. >> neither side is getting everything it wants. that's the way it goes in divided government. if the text of the bill reflects the principles agreed to on monday, it won't be a perfect deal but it will be a good deala >> desjardins:hile, the top democrat in the senate, chuck schumer, appealed directly to the president. >> in politics, to rolling stones, "you can't always get what you want."

it's time to put the months ofs shutdown polithind us. wo>> desjardins: with just days to go before friday's midnight deadline. president trump has said this, he doesn't want to see a second government shutdown. >> woodruff: and lisa is here with malong with our white house correspondent yamiche alcindor. so, lisa, what is the best you know, you can tell us about when we'r agoing to see this bi what's in it and what's being negotiatede till? >> i hen just checking with sources, hearing back from them. it looks like they do expect ust to see text tonight. that time keeps slipping back. i'm now told hopefully by midnight, south going to be a very late night. if we see the text tonig, we also expect votes tomorrow at weast in the house and possibly in the senate asl. cky, judy, tomorrow is tri because there are two funerals for departed members of congress, oneoh fordingell, another for walter jones in

north carolina. many members are flying to that funeral. they will go to that funeral and return to washington and only then can the votes begin ton this package. now, as to what's in theag pa what have we learned today? a couple of new things. we know this deal cludes a 1.9 pay increase for federal workers, also $1 billion for the census. that's something they have been asking for and even more. judy, very specific about the border barrier money we have been talking about, it saysil 55, 45 miles for land fencing and 10 miles for levies. one other hing, there are still negotiations going on tonight between leadership sources over two things, one, whether contractors should get back pay as part of this deal. the other thing, should the violence against womenbe extended as it is, which republicans want, or shoulde theremore restrictions on, sarks weapon ownership by potential abusers, tt's what democrats want. >> woodruff: fascinating how the otr issues arise in a situation like. this yamiche, the big queson

on everybody's mind is what is the president going to do? what have you learned about whether he is inclined to sign it or no >> the president has not decided whether or not he will sign this bill and, ultimately, it doesn't look likely there will be a shutdown, but the government isu noof the woods yet. i have been talking to conservatives all day and they say the pre lsident lacksittle bit of political theater. they think the president likesth drama and his opponents waiting until the last minute to know what he's going to. do they think of this as the president really looking as he wants to be a negotiate who unpredictable, but the white house pushes back on that image. when i talk to aids, they say the president has made up his mind because the text to habive hasn't been received by the white house. they say once that text iswh receivede house aides will comb through it, make a presentation to the president, angothe then's theg to look for sweeteners. specific things he's looking for, the number of immigration ljudges included in the l. he also wants to know exactly dhat the wall money can be use for. they want to know where can we

put the wall, exactly where can the materials come it's interesting the president is weighing those options. the bottomine is the president doesn't know what he's going to do. there's been bk and forth on whether or not the president intends to stein this but the president has not ma he up mind as of this hour. >> woodruff: you mention the wall. we know the president did not get all the mo money he wanted r the wall and, yet, the white house is saying they're sti going to build a barrier. how co'do they plan d that? >> the white house is unhappy with the number they're getting for the wall funthding. president wanted $5.7 billion, instead he got $1.37 billion. the white hoe is looking at this idea of whether or not he can pull from different funds. the president hasn't deced ich pot he's going to pull from, but the key question is who does he want o make mad? on the one hand, conservatives kell me the president would loo very happy to his base and it would be very good for his base if he pullemoneyom the

dod or the army corps of engineers or possiy eve disaster funding just to say i signed this bill, made the deal, avoided the shutdown and also got my money forthll. however, republicans on capitol hill might be very angry that. i'm thinking of senators from states like texas the president takes mon where that was supposed to be used for hurricane fund org flooding and says, you know what, i'm going to build my wall, that could be a political land mine essentially for people on the hill. so the president's going thave to decide who he wants to make mad and whether or not he thinks ey can be a winner from wherever he pulse the monrom. >> woodruff: lisa, that brings me to you, what is congress' role ahe looks forhe money? >> it depend on the source of money. there is money from g seizures and powers they have in the war on drugs they may be able to take without approval. but all the other funds are called transfers, reprogramming and, traditionally, each appropriations commit yp in

congress must approve that. one of those appropriations committees is run by demrats, the house appropriations committee. democrats say they will object. where does that go? probably to court.f: >> woodruf well, we'll watch this for sure. we will e watching. lisa desjardins, yamiche alcindor, thank you, and we will talk to the senate's number two republican john thune a little later in theam pro in the days other news, in a strong rebuke of president trump, the u.s. house of representatives has approved a measure to limit u.s. involvement in the warmen. mr. trump has stepped up u.s. inlitary assistance to a saudi- led bocampaign against iranian-backed houthi rebels in yemen.no the legislatioheads to the senate, where lawmakers still la the votes to pass it. the white house has promised to veto the measure. president trump sought today to step up the pressure on venezuela's president nicolas maduro. he said agaihe is looking at "all options" if maduro refuses

to surrender power. but at a u.s. house hearing, the chair of the foreign affairs committee warned against using the military in venezuela, unless congress approves. >> i want to make clear to our witnesses and everyone else watching, u.s. military inrvention is not an optio congress decides when where and how the us military is used around t world, and congress would not support military intervention in venezuela. >> woodruff: the u.s. has recognized opposition leader juan guaido as venezla's rightful leader. a former u.s. air force intelligence officer has been charged with revealing u.s. national defense sects to iran. monica witt defected to iran in 2013. the justice department announced the indictment today. said she also helped hackers target her former colleagues. a witt remailarge. the socialist government of spain may have to call early elections after it lost a

crucial budget vote today.ti catalan sepas joined conservatives in opposition. s e catalan deputies are unhappy with the governmenfusal to consider an independence referendum for their region. back in this country, new jersey's roman catholic dioceses named more than 180 priests who have been credibly accused of sexually molesting minors. the allegations span several decades. many of those listed are now deceased. others have been removed from the ministryand some have been charged with crimes. separately, the diocese ofia richmond, virgamed 42 accused priests. the superintendentof the three u.s. service academies faced partisan criticism from lawmakers today over concerns about sexual assault and s.harassment in their scho a defense department study last month found an increase in sexual misconduct at the schools in the last two years. congresswoman jackie speier, who heads the subcommittee, said she was putting the service academies "on notice."

>> this isn't a blip, a #metoo bump or some accident, it is a clear illustration of a destructive trend and a systemic problem. it's time for us to recognize that this is a crisis and i intend to watch it like a hawk. tivment ranking repusaican joined ing the problem needs immediate attention. an investigation has found noen ev that catholic school students used racist or offensive language in an incident at the lincoln memorial. the encounter last month involved teenagers from a school in covington, tintucky, and american activists. videos of it quickly went viraln thstigation was done for the catholic diocese of covington. ock long is resigning as head of fema, the federal emergency management agency. he notified his staff in a letter today. long's departure comes several months after an investigatio found he misused government vehicles.

he agreed to reimburse the government. nasa said goodbye today to its "opportunity" rover, after nearly 15 years of exploring the surface of mars. the golf cart-sized vehicle was launched in 2003 alongside its twin, "spirit," for a mission of just over 90 days. instead, "spirit" lasted until several years ago, and "opportunity" carrd on until a ferocious dust storm last june. >> we tried valiantly over these last eight months to try to recover the rover, to get some signal from it. we listened every single day and we heard nothing. and so it comes time to say goodbye. but we want to remember the 14 and a half years of phenomenal exploration.op >> woodruff:rtunity" set endurance and distance records, and, along with "spiidt," it found ce that water once flowed on e surface of mars. longtime conspiracy theorist and eight-time presidential ndidate lyndon larouche has died.

vhe was known for extremiws and outrageous claims, including one that britain's queen elizabeth was a drug trafficker. lyndon larouche was 96 years old. t-mobile and sprint pledged again today not to raise prices for three years, if merger wins federal approval. but democrats at a house hearing questioned whether the trump administration would hold theto companiehat pledge. the merger is worth $26.5 billion.ld it wnite the nation's third and fourth largest wireless carriers. on wall street, stocks made modest gains, over optimm about u.s./china trade talks. the dow nes industrial average was up 117 points to close at 25,543. the nasdaq rose five points, and the s&p 500 added eight. and, a wire fox terrier named "king" is this year'dog, at the westminster kennel club dog show in new york. the seven-year-old won "best in

anow" last night in the nation's most prestigiouse competition. overall, more than 2,800 dog took part. wired fox terriers have won westminster 13 times, far moreny thanther breed. still to come on the newshour: a wide-ranging conversation wite secretary of sike pompeo. republican senator john thune on the effort to avert r government shutdown. forms of universal health care pick up steam among democrats, and much more. >> woodruff: we return now to the negotiations over border n.ending and a looming government shutd for that i spoke a short time ago to republican senator john thune of south dakota. he is the senate majority whip.

senator thune, thank you very much for joining us. first of all, how confident are you that president trump is going to seen on to thi agreement? >> well, good evening, judy. u know,confident, but, of course, until we actually have the final text and theen prescomes out and says something definitively, i think 're just going to wait and let him make that announcement himself, but the indications are positive. i think that he probably realizes this is the best deal he could get under th circumstances, and the negotiations have concluded. we'vgot to avoid another government shutdown which would happen midnight friday if thi deal isn't agreed to. so i'm hopeful that the president will come arounand at some point announce his intention to get behind this, but, like everybody else, he wants to see the details. >> woodruff: well, as we all know, the president did not get as much money as hefoantea physical barrier, a wall, and he's saying he's going to find

that money elsewhere. how much other money isim available tond from where? >> i think that what they'rein taabout doing -- and, of course, this would be -- i'm not in the context of anemergency declaration, which would be an intrcht, entirely, conversation, but i think in terms of unobligated balances, reprogramming that could occur, n at the administratuld find, the dollars they could move around a little bit, i'm not sure exactly what that number is. we've heard estimates, but i ink it would significantly increase the amount he could put toward border security. d how much would go towa wall, i don't know, but i think the hard number we know about is 21 that's in there and that's the 1.4 or thereabout billion dollars he can use for the physical structure that would be along the border, but there's more to it, obviously, thn that, and i know he's interested in getting as much funding as he can to build as much of that structure as possible. >> woodruff: well, we have been hearing perhaps as much a a couple of billion dollars the president would be trying to find elsewhere.

do you have any idea where te money could come from? >> well, there are several accounts that have been mentioned, and, but, you know, i don't know exactly where they're talking about going to get it. there, of course, has been some talk ability defense department dollars and perhaps being able to reprogram some of those. i think, in the end, to get tgnificant amounts of money, he would probably us emergency declaration. i don't know exactin what he's to do at this point and i think it's probably anybody's guess, but i know his administration is looking carefully at these various accounts to y to determine if there are additional dollars that could be added to the amount that's going to be propriated by congress. how much that is and where exactly it comes from, i hate to at this point speculate aut that. >> woodruff: is that something congressional republicans would support? >> it depds a lot on where it comes from, and, again, and which authority would use. a lot of our colleagues are very sympathetic to what the

president's trying to accomplish. they want to ensure that he has dollars tol ocate to border security and to deal with the crisis there, but, at the same time, you know, what authority gets used, where the dollars might be moved around from will have a lot to h,do wit think, the kind of support that he might enjoy among republicans in the senate. >> woodruff: separate question, senator. stxpanding i.c.e. detention, immigration and s enforcement, and if, so by how much? >> there have been a lot of t discussion abo numbers and both sides have talked about a slightlyifferent number, but i think it's all in the ballpark of $40,000 to 50,000 bad range which would be comparable to what we have today th some flexibility to go beyond that. i've seen some numbers in the range o so i think the flexibility is important, but i think in terms of the overall amount that would

allocated toward detention of illegals who are here and criminal alien in some cases, it is comparable to what we're looking at today. >> woodrf: how much of a priority is that for you, senator? >> well, i think it's important that we not cap it. i nes very concabout the proposal the democrats put forward that would have, in law, capped that amount. i think previous administrations have had the flexibility, based upon what the ned is, to be able to move some money around and make sure thathere's enough, you know, detention beds ink that population, and i it's an issue that's a part of this discussion.fo i think a lot of our members, the fiscal structure, the barrier is robably the number one priority, but this obviously is a close second in the minds of a lot of people. >> woodruff: and still another subject, and that is dtsmoc are saying they would like to find money to give back pay t federal contract employees who were affected by the government

shutdown. are pushing for this. where do republicans -- where do you stand on that? >>ell, i -- what i've maintained throughout this entire process is when you have a government stdown, nobody wins, and there are a lot of people that are harmed by that and you want to make sure you do everything you can t them whole, and i guess i would include contracts in that oup. the question, i guess, is how tost to do that. people who enter ontracts with the government aren't ld theyworking, and wou have been working -- what's the duration of some of those contract there are a lot of questions that i think have to be answered to figure out how you woulde reimbuor make whole government contractors. there is a reason they're contractors. they're not as federaloy ems. they're not full-time federal workers. they are working on contract, and sometimes those contracts go in spurts. there may be times when they're heavily engaged in some activity on behalf of the federal government, but at other tims ey're not. so i think making those determinations makes us a littl ore -- this a lilt bit more

complicated, but i think there s an interest, certainly among a lot of members oth sides of the aisle, seeing that people who depend upon there fed government and were harmed by the shutdown, that they be taken care of. >> woodruff: so republicans would be open to the idea,ou think? >> well, i think there are republicans open to that idea, yeah. >> woodruff: and finally, whennk do you thhis could pass the congress, assuming t kee moving as it is? >> if we get eaperwork filed by late this afternoon or early evening, it would set up, i think, potentially votes tomorrow in the senate. we could move first, thhou could move first, i don't think that's been determined yet, but, if the senate did move first, you know, we have have consent to do that, and if we have consent, we could move fairly quickly and send it to the house and they could process it sometime tomorrow. but that assumes again that the paperwork gets wrapped up and that they get the details, e actual legislative text made available to members for them to have an opportunity to revaniew hopefully that will happen soon.

>> woodruff: then we wait to see what the president does. >> then we wait to see. >> woodruff: senator john thune, thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. >> woodruff: democratsn washington are making health care a top priority and calls for medicare for all or some form of universal healthre coveragerowing louder. but as special correspondent sarah varney reports, mocratic governors and mayors aren't waiting; they are pushing ahead with urgency, signing executive orders and unveiling proposals to corral costs and bring health care to those who remain uninsured. california governor gavin newsom naid out some of his ideas his state of the state speech last night. our story begins in californiapr and wauced in collaboration with our partner, kaiser health news. for our weekly series on the leading edge of scd nce, health technology.

>> reporter: sandra yamileth lopez works at one o francisco's most celebrated bakeries, tartine. she fled horrific violence in honduras and applied for asylum in california. she can work legally, but like many new immigrants, it will be years before she's eligible for medicaid or federal healthsu insurancidies. so, she enrolled in healthy sano francisco, aering program that guarantees health care to any uninsured city rident. lopez says she can live her life agn. >> ( anslated ): i had a l of recurring dreams about what had been happening. so doctors gave me medication to help me sleep and to help me relax with my anxiety. >> rorter: healthy san francisco started in 2007, under then mayor gav newsom, years before the affordable care act when universal coverage was an audacious, and radically liberal, goal.

partially funded through employer fees, the city reorganized its public health system. patients like mario goes were moved away from expensive and overburdened emergency rooms, sd into primary care clinics. they get visits topecialists, prescription drugs, and perhaps most importantly, protection from massive bills should they need emergency care. 20ter most of obamacare went into effect in 14, most healthy san francisco patients enrolled in medicaid or bough subsidized private plans. by about 13,000 remain, those who earn too much for medicaid but still can't afford privatesu inrance, and people like juanwh are undocumented and barred from federal public assistance. he's been recovering from a heart attack under the watchful eye of a cardiol wist and back k in a local warehouse. he tes a number of

prescription drugs that he couldn't otherwise afford. but here's the dilemma: he's only covered inside the ty limits of san francisco. it's not portable health insurance. juan wants to move to san diego to care for his aging mother, but then he'll be out of he program and unable to afford his medications. >> some of them are over thousands of dollars a month. and if i don't have that coverage in san diego, i would have to pay for it. and if ion't take that medication, it could be life threatening.e >> reporter: sree million californians remain uninsured, about half don't have legal status like juan, and the rest can't afford the sky high cost of american healthcare. fury over those costs, even for those with insurance, has energized democrats who want the u.s. to have universal health industrialized nations.ma but there ar variations: single payer; medicare-for-all; plans that would largely do away with insurance companies or

employer-based coverage, others that would simply regulate them more closely. now that the former mayor of san francisco has become governor,ay newsomhe wants to make california a testing ground for universal coverage.e >> premiums ing up, deductibles are getting higher, people are feeling stress and ngxiety about what's happe or not happening, federally. and they're concerned that things will get worse, not nessarily better, in the medium term, and a lot worse in the long term. >> reporter: newsom has asked the trump administration to allow california to pursue a single payer system. since that's unlikely to happen, he's pursuing other options. by creating what he says is the nation's largest prescription drug purchasing pool to negotiate ug prices, restoring the individual health insurance mandate, letting undocumented young adults up to age 26 into medicaid, and ving state subsidies to 250,000 more middle-income californians. >> you look around the rest of the world, they're just rollg their eyes. higher life expectancy, they do

chronic disease management better than the united states, for roughly half the price. you look at quality s, we drop to 37th in the world in our quality index last year, below cuba, and costa rica. this is ludicrous, and it's incumbent upon governors, mayors, to take the lead in thef absence of teral government doing its job. >> reporter: and that's e,ppening across the nation. in washington stew mexico, colorado and elsewhere, democrats have put forward a o flurproposals to expand access and restrain health care cists. and in new york , mayor bill de blasio is promising health racare to undocumented imms and those who can't afford insurance. n >> there's enough peoplethis city who don't have any health care coverage to fill the entire city of milwaukee, or the enre city of baltimore. that's just a vast number of people. l >> reporter: it's a totaof some 600,000ew yorkers. de blasio recruited dr. mitch katz, the public health mastmind behind healthy san

francisco, to build a similar program in the city's five boroughs. they plan to pump more than $100 million a year into the y-ty's financiarained public hospitals and clinics andol actively ethe uninsured into a program called n.y.c. care. that includes struggling young people, like freelanceusician and composer andrew sharkey, who has crohn's, a serious bowel disease that has gone untreated. he dropped hisoverage in 2015. >> i just didn't know where the money was going to come from. i was working two jobs, they were both pa time so that they didn't have to pay into my insurance. >> reporter: under de blasio's plan, sharkey would have a regular primary care doctor ande treatment fromalists and access to prescription drugs. word about n.y.c. care is already spreading among the more than 300,000 undocumented immigrants in the city, like antonio, who asked us to use only his first name.

he thinks de blasio's plan would simplify his life. he could focus more on his health and work, and less on the endless paperwork that comes with being uninsured. >> ( translated ): oh my godto that is goine a great change for everyone. now when i go to an appointment, nineed to run around from social workers, to orgations, to find ways to reduce those bills. >> reporter: americans already pay for undocumented immigrants when they come to the emergency room, says mayor de blasio. >> let's face it, we kind kid ourselves in this country about the reality of health care. so right away we've got 12 million, maybe even more, undocumented folks who are par of the fabric of the united states of america, and who need health ce because they are human beings. but in all of our policy making we deny their existence. this is the greatest don't ask don't tell you've ever seen. we shod have universal health care nationally, we should have single payer, we should have medicare for all, but in the absence of tt, health care has

become this luxury item for so many people. >> reporter: universal health care polls well with american voters. but the trump administration says if itecame a national policy, it would consume the federal budget. seema verma runs the federal centers for medicare and medicaid services for ump administration. i s fiscally unsustainable. but to make matters worse it would destroy medicare for t seniors who spent their wholeto life paying t. per sh umlin was forced hissa ternts to bring single payer to his state. >> what i realized and a lot of legislators did is, hey, if we don't get costs under control thrst, instead of getting the premium increase imail, you will get a tax increase passed to your legislature on an annual basis and there isn't any party that want to be raising taxes at the current healt

>> 15% every year, 18%. >> you imagine the politicians going hey, this is fun! >> reporter: as democrats across the country and in washington push ahead with their health care agenda, patients like andy sharky are listening carefully. for the pbs newshour and kaiser health news, i'm sarah varney in new york. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: students around the country respond to gun violence one year after the tragedy in parkland, flida. and the oscar nominee behindth "black p's" costumes. >> woodruff: this week marks a ouar since the shooting at marjory stonemanas high school in parkland florida that took the lives of 17 students and educators. tomorrow will be a daymany

survivors take time again to rember, reflect and grieve we wanted to take some time tonight to hear from students around t country. our student reporting labs spoke to high schoolers from a number of states including california, michigan, wisconsin, and south carolina. we asked students to talk about whether they felt safer or not, what had changed at their schools and some of the larger concerns on their mind. here's a sampling of what they had to say>> he students of parkland and the parkland movement helped me change because they really let me notim that y voice matters, that the youth voice matters and that, although we are not legislators and political officials, we still can have our opinion and voice heard and can make a difference in regards to changes in our political platform. >> obviously, parkland was a really big turpoint in this, but it has happened in a lot of different places that,

you know, maybe we don't hear about every day, but because of avrkland, so many thine changed, even n my smaller school. >> i've definitely become more paranoid in school a little bit. after it hap'vpened, ie run was a lot more paranoid than they ere now. definitely a litore paranoid about going to school. >> since the mass shooting in parkland, i have definitely been aware of my surroundings and changed my mental state to, whenever i go in a room, think of where the exits are ifid anythingappen. >> my school upped the security, and i see more security guards and personnel around, and, while it't make me feel safe, it's nice knowing they're there >> tve installed locks on the doors where someone has to buzz you in to get in to the school on every door. the doors are locked all the time. laknow in our css, there is a

gate that is down all the time now. >> they have been a lot stricter on, like, hats and hoodies and not having them on in school or big jackets, just incase someone could be holding, you know, a weapon or anything in em. >> i think the most depressing thing about the parkland incident is that i don't feel -- in general, schools don't feel incredibly different and it's almost as if it's just ather shooting. >> i actually feel a lot more unsafe after parkland ju because a lot more kids realize they have an opportunity oot school. they all have an opportunity. it's not that hard to get a gun, and a lot of kids know that and they just -- it'scary to think there are kids out there that know that that's a choice. >> a major change that i hope te is a universal background check. to my knowledge, i know that ins sotes, you're able to go to a gun show and just purchase a weapon with no background check. i think that a very difference things to think about. >> people are saying the people who are makg the land

thing chianging the way we see these things, they're ac taking a step forward and doing something about it. even though it's just seed, we're still going to be acting upon it and it reasallyone a lot in the face of lawmakers and people who can make change. i hopeful that in the future the conversation is there wiland the ide be gun restrictions and a safer future in our country is there and it's possible, but i don't think we're there yet. >> woodruff: today in warsaw, poland, the united states is leading a midd conference with about 70 countries. secretary of state mike pompeo is leading the u.s. delegation. earlier today he visited u.s. s trtioned in northeast poland, near the russian border. he then attended a meeting aboun

the waemen that included officials from saudi arabia and the united arab emirates, who are ading the coalitionn fightingat country. u.s. officls are discussing multiple topics, but the focus has overwhelmingly ban. i spoke to the secretary of state a short time ago, from waaw. secretary mike pompeo, thankorou very muchoining us. you are in poland for a meeting to discuss the future of the middle east. what do you want to come out of this meeting? >> well, judy, thanks for having meapn this show. eciate the opportunity to speak with your audience. 've gathered 70 nations to talk about how we achieve middle east stability and prosperity an.pea as you know, this region is fraught with risk, and we will spend tomorrow, we spent a good part of tonig talking about the various risks and how different countries from eve continent, save for antarctica, can come and deliver on middle east peace. we hope to walk away from here

with a number of eas and plans. we hope to have follow-upet gs where we can truly begin to deliver on something that the middle east certainly needs, and the world wl benefit from as well. >> woodruff: so we are told that a number of key middle eastern and european officialsto decided no attend. there are some countries represented at a lower level. how does that affect your ability to move this forward? >> judy, this event's beenly absoluistoric. it's the first time we've put it together, and even tonight, it's the first time in a quarter of a century that you had the pme minister of israel in the same room talking about threats in the mile east with senr arab leaders from all across the middle east. it was truly remarkable. it was historic. 70-plus countries gathered together, all sharing ideas. we come from different backgrounds, we come from different places, we see thesesk differently, but tonight i think we began a conversation which will lead to really o outcomes all across the middle

east. >> woodruff: you men the prime minister of israel, mr. netinyahu, who a shorte ago was quoted as tweeting that ies were there to discuss their common interests of war with iran. now, they later changed the wording to sayommon interests of combating iran. but is that the focus? >> well, it may not surprise you, judy, i s out with american soldiers on freedom's frontier today, iav didn't e a lot of time to spend on twitter, so i haven't seen those remarks. no, this gathering is certainly about middle east peace and stability. you can't talk about that without talking about the threat from islamic republic of , whether hezboll, hamas, the houthis, whether it's the iraqi government trying to harm the independence and sovereignty of iraq, wh they're doing i syria today, there are shared tribetween the sawed ytion, the

emiratis, the bahrainis, the jordanians, the israelis all understand their nation is at risk from iran and the europeans' are at risk. iran is conducting an assassination campaign throughout europe. this is a global phenomenon. the threat of middle east instabily is real and you can't possibly talk about it without talking about the enormous influence iran has been in the middle east none of which has been good. >> woodruff: we know you appealed directly to the people of iran, but the question has been raised is how can you expect them to support this when uclearf them wanted that agreement to go forward. many of them just don't want to be seen as pporting th u.s. right now. is that a tack you thi you can count on? >> woodruff: judy, we don't expect the iranian people to support the u.s.th we expecm to take care of their own country. we hear from iranis all the

time at the united states state departnt, they're wholly dissatisfied with the conditions side their country. they watch the clerical regime there squander mon around the world, they watch it get their brothers and sisters killed in wars all across the region, and for what? for the i.r.g.c., for sull manny, not fhe benefit of the iranian people. so what want the iranian people to do is not support europe or the united states r anyone else, we want the iranian people to live in a prosperous, peaceful society and one controlled by their desires and ishes. if we can get tha very confident that these behaviors we see in iran will chae dramatically. >> woodruff: one other question about iran, that is it's been pointed out that the u.s. singles out human rihts abuses in iran but does not do so with regard to countries like egypt, like syria, like saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. how do you reconcile that?

>> i me, judy, your statement is just false. you reconcile bit looking aour record. we've made very clear that the failure to observe the most basic fundamental human rights, treating humans with dignity and respect which they're entitled by nature of their humanity, the ited states calls thout wherever we find shortcomings, whether the muslim lears held in detention camps in china, or what's happening in iran or anyt r country where we find it, north korea, the list goes on. the united states is v consistent, and we ask every nation to treat their people with the basic human rights to which each of us is entitled. woodruff: well, one of the countries that conversation has led to has to do with the war in yemen, and you may know that just a short time ago, the u.s. house of representatives, wheres you prev served, passed a bill basically saying that the u.s. can no longer put money toward the military effort, the

saudi-led coalition in yemen. is ths -- is this -- how much of a rebuke of a setback is ts to the president? s, look, members of congr was one, they get to vote the way they want to goat and pa resolutions that they want to pass. that's certainly their right. you should know that we listen to them. senators and members of the house of representatives all the time, we talk range of issues, and we certainly hear their voice with respect to yemen. just tonight, judy, i was with foreign ministers from the emirates, saudis and britain, the u.k., we met with martin griffith from he u.n. who's working to solve this problem in yemen. we have two problems -- three problems, really. the first problem is al quaida, still there. e united states is doing its best to take down that terror threat. the second problem is iran, continuing to fund the houthis. if you want to know who's caused the humanitarian crisis in n yemen, yd look no further than the islamic rublic of

iran. judy, for example, how many dollars has iran provided for humanitarian assistance in yemen. i can tell you. do you know? >> woodruff: i don't know. it's zer how much money have the emiratis and saudis provided? the americans, the brits, the saudis and emiratis are doing everything we can to take down the threat om theumanitarian crisis in yemen while iran fuels it.si it provides ms to the houthis that they launch into airportsn saudi arabia, in the emirates. these are the challenges in yemen, thee the challenges that this administration is determined to push back against and we're going to keep at it. >> woodruff: and we assume this legislation will go on to the senate, which passed similar language not very long ago. so we'll watch to see what happens. finally, mr. secretary, i want to take you to north korea, therh, of course, is ano major focus of yours with this upcoming meeting between present trump and the north korean leader kim jong un. there are reports now that the

international atomic energy agency may be allowed back into north korea. can you confirm that? >> no, ma'am, i't can confirm that for you this evening.at can tell your viewers is that president trump is headedth e on the 27th and 28t 28th to hanoi to have a second conversation with chairman kim ang un, and we really hope we can make progres significant step toward denuclearizing the an peninsula. it will reduce risk, it will reduce all the tension that's been along the border for far too long, and then e hope we can create a much brighter future for the north korean people as well.on that's the mishat the president's given me and it's one that we hope we ke significant advance on at the end of this month. >> woodruff: we will certainly be llowing that story ad we will be following your travels in europe today. we wish you -- e wish you safe travels, ecretaryke pompeo. thank you very much.m >> thank you, a'am. have a good evening, judy. so long.

>> woodruff: finally, we continue our look at some of this year's academy awards nominees. when it comes to film, we often spend much of our time talkingct tos, writers and directors. but there are so many elements that go into the making of a movie. "black panther," which was widely praised for its messages, vision and style, certainly drives that point home.ke part of its look comes from ruth carter, who's nominated for best costume design jeffrey brown traveled to losan les to talk with her about her craft for our new regular series on arts and culture, "canvas." "> brown: by now it's well established: "ack panther" has been both a box office blockbuster and historically groundbreaking.

>> ooo the entire suit sits within the teeth of the necklace. brown: and, more than half a century since marvel comics first introduced thetional african nation of wakanda, the film featured a new look that has itself become a cultural phenomenon. ruth e. carter not only helped bring to life the la iteration of the black panther suit, she also designed some 1500 costumes for the lm, and the goal, she says, was to make fantasy somehow familiar. >> we have to really base it on real life in order for people to believe it. you know it's not a place that we can make so completely a fantasy th it feels like it's a sci fi or it's a fantastical place that no one could go to. we base it on so many rooted ideas and cultural things that people feel like they can y tually buy a ticket and wakanda.

brown: to that end, carter researched and found inspiration in the real africa and its people: such as the dogon of mali, the tuareg in north africa, the himba of namibia the lee costumes, and the film in general, also cebrate the concept of afrofuturis blending of technology and futuristic themes with black history and culture. carter points to the costume of ramonda, king t'challa's mother, as o of her favorites.ri both her ite crown and shoulder mantle were 3-d printed. >> we still really want to honor what the fans believe wakanda is and in that way it sts really rooted in the superhero realm in the comic realm and in t fantasy realm. but you know this was an oppounity to take you know t afro future or the aesthetics of african diaspora and infe it into this culture and bring itt

to life in ty. the process of creating superhero costumes is very different than, than tailoring the suit. and so that process was new to me. but as i got into it i could see that there were lots of things where i could implement my ideas and my art. but it's very intimidating at first. >> brown: intimidating until you get over it. >> until you get over it. >> brown: ruth carter grew up is springfield,chusetts, in an artistic household. she was introduced to drama through after-school programs, and studied theater arts and design in college. now 58, her big break into hollywood came through spikele with whom she's worked on many films, including "malcolm x," which brought the first of her now-three oscar nominations at the te was first african-am ican to receive a nomination for costume design. among her many other films: steven selberg's "amistad,"

ava duvernay's "selma," and lee daniels' "the butler." >> this was oprah's d this was cecil gaines, who was played by forest whitaker, who was the butler >> brown: some of her creatiuss are still at the western costume compan a massive shop and warehouse in north hollywood where we met and talked. i'm not sure that many people, myself included, understand your job. costume designer.h. >> y >> brown: how do you define it? >> a costume designer is a storyteller; she tells or he tells stories through wearable art. it's not only just like buying a shirt and a jacket or creating something original it's also giving you a little bit more of a story. it's just not 2-d, it doesn't in a costume designers job does not end with a photograph or a sketch. there is that part that makes it come alive. that's molding and shapi and creating a character

composition color palette. all those things come into play> rown: this is not a field, this is not an industry, that's been very inclusive historically. >> yeah.wh >> brownis that? what did that mean for you u comiand finding your way? >> i guess as i entered i didn't see very many people like me evenhough i looked and researched if there were and there s maybe one doing television and there was another person who was supervising but not really in a design capacity. and i was really firm that i wanted to be a costume designer once i landed in hollywood. >> brown: beyo the individual films, carter said she's felt a larger mission: to help create an authentic portrait of african americans. >> people think i got into this industry because i like you know fashion and dior but it was really like you know james baldwin and nikki giovanni and

sonia sanchez that told these rich stories that really made me want to get into theater and what made me want to be a part of this, and i found that costume design was ahere i could be an artist and ale storytyou know and contribute to a medium that i felt had had a great voice. >> brown: what does the oscar nomination mean for you?e >> ien reflecting on that quite a bit. it means that i'm an example to a lot of young girls who-- wow i'm getting choked up. wo you know a lot of young girls who, like me, want this for themselves, this profession, want to get into it and really kind of don't know how but maybe forging their own way. i feel like i represent like thatope that they can go to the highest level.

>> brown: ruth carter, congratulations to you again. thanks for talking to us. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> woodruff: we will continue our coverage of the oscars later this week, hearing from regina king, star of "if beale street could talk." and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> ordering takeout. >> finding the west route.al >>ng for hours. >> planning for showers. >> you can do the things you like to do with a wireless plan signed for you. with talk, text and data. consumer cellular. learn more at consumercellular.tv

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