captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonigh outrage and disappointment. ugrvivors criticize pope francis for not taking eaction to confront sexual abuse in the church. then, we are on the ground in prnezuela. ests to deliver aid turn deadly as vice president pence vows new sanctions, adding pressure to an already embattled president maduro. ituationnslated ): the in the country is chaotic, everyday we are worse off. we work three times as hard to live worse. a lot of work, less money. >> woodruff: plus amy walter and tamara keith are here with a close look at a busy weekend of 2020 democratic presidential candidates on the trail. all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."

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hanoi. tbut he has played down ak of breakthroughs on getting kim to ge up his nuclear weapons the two leaders first met face- to-face last june in singapore. as the president left, democrats ar the u.s. house of representatives pr to try to block his national emergency declaration. the em trump redirect federal money to construct a wall along the mexican border. texas congressman joaquin castro authored the docrats' resolution, and appealed today for support in tomorrow's vote. >> today we ask all members of congress to respect the rule of law th us. to respect the separation of powers enshrined in our constitution and to support this resolution. if the president is successful in getting his way on this, rest assured he will come back. he will try this again. >> woodruff: meanwhile, 58 former national security

haficials from both partie also written a letter insisting there's "no factual basis" for national emergency to build the wall. the u.s. hasamped up sanctions on venezuela, aimed at president nicolas maduro's allies. the targets are four statewh governorblocked humanitarian aid convoys over the weekend.s the sanctime as vice president pence arrived in enlombia today. he met with presduque and juan guaido, the venezuelan opposition leader. pence promised $56 million in hu venezuela's neighbors handle a flood of refugee u.s. envoy zalmay khalilzad meti toda a taliban founder for the first time ahead of the latest peace talks on afghanistan. khalilzad and mullah abdul ghani baradar sat down in doha, thar capital of q a taliban spokeman suggested the meeting would produce relts. khalilzad tweeted that it could be "a significant moment."

back in this country: howling winds asted the mid-atlantic and northeast today, knocking out power to thousands and grounding hundreds of flights. hurricane-force wind gusts piled up mounds of ice along lake erie's shores. hamburg, new york and elsewhere, the ice threatened lake-front homes. in providence, pennsylvania,ok peopleup overnight, to the sounds of trees crashing down on their homes. s >> we weeping in the house. we heard the wind. all of a sudden, we heard a couple branches hit the house. and then just this horrific boom.he yod plaster all over the place. f woke up d a tree coming through my closet, about three feet off thebeloor of the oom >> woodruff: over the weekend, the same system toucf tornadoes in the south, and triggered widespread flooding. alabama declared an emy. a former trump campaign staffer

is suing the psident, claiming that he kissed her without consent.s alva johnson s happened in florida, in august of 2016. she also points to at a dozen similar claims against mr. trump. the white house says johnson's accusation is absurd, and that otr campaign workers say i never happened. r&b singer r. kelly pleaded not guilty today to multiple charges of sexual abuse. his brief court appearance in chago followed his arrest friday. he is accused of abusing four young women and girls, three of whom were under 18. kelly spent the weekend in jail, on $1 million bond. the u.s. military academy west point suspended classes today to address sexual assault and harassment. that's after a pentagon survey found reports of assault and harassment rose 50% since 2016. the one-day stand-down included talks to cadets and group

discussions.d, n wall street today stocks managed only small gains,t despite presidump's move to delay new tariffs on imports from china.in the dow jonestrial average was up 60 points to close near 26,092. the nasdaq rose almost 27 points. and the s&p 500 added three. still to come on the "newshour," survivors speak out over lack of action on sex abuse from pope francis, violent clashes in venezuela over humanitarian aid, the trump administraolls back funding for clinics that provide abortions, and much more. >> woodruff: pope francis ended an unprecedented vatican summit focused on clergy sexual abuse by insisting the catholic church

end it's long history of covering up child sexual abuse. the pope called for an "l out battle," but stopped short of offering specifics after four days of meetings. becky ianni is a board member or the supporp "survivors network of those abused by priests." she is also a survivor of childhood clergy sexual abuse herself. being here. what was your main takeay from these meetings that the vatican hosted? >> that we're in the same situation that we were before starte we went in hoping that there was going to be concrete action. hewe went in hoping thatwere going to come up with a placks and actually -plan of action and actually take action, but instead they came up with 21 reflection point and pope francis on the las day me up with eight guidelines, and one was as simple as what is the seriouof this problem? as a child of eight when i was abused, i knew it was a sin and it was wrong.

why don't they know that now? why does that have to be a guideline? >> woodruff: one to have things that was reported is the pope was using is meeting to try to persuade the bishops and other leaders in the church that they needed to change their approach and become more accountable, rather tha tn ordering this by changing the rules. buzz that the wrong approach at the outset? >> i think the pope has the ultimate authority here. i think he put it back in the hands of of the bishop but the bishops don't have that authority. the pope can right now today fire a bishop who covers up abuse. he could tell them to turn over all their files. he did neither of those during this conference. he talked about self-accusation, like they're supposed to accuse themselves. i don't think that's going to work. we have had three decades of dealing with thisse in the united states, and some of these countries are just beginning. how ma kids are going to be abused while they come up withes new proced >> woodruff: so was there anything positive that came out of this? i mean, did you hear a higher

level of consciousness on the part of e pope? what did you mary that gives you any trust? >> i heard sister von cars, onef he sisters who spoke during the summit, and she spoke to th bishops abw they needed to do something, and seeing a woman speak, to me, was encouraging. i was encoured to hear -- appalled but also encouraged to hear cardinal marks toalk abut documents being destroyed, and saying that out loud lead me to is there going to be more but overall, i don't think much happened. i don't think we came out with anything that's going to protect a child. >> woodruff: well, you mentioned the cardinal speaking about documents being destroyed, what was the reaction to that? >> it's a remarkable acknowledge. >> it is, but i don't think it's a surprise to victims. we always thought if they're not hiding, they're destroying them,

and he also said maybe they were never documented.y so how mmes has a survivor gone in and talked to a church official and it doesn't get written down or put into a file that we can later find? don't knowecause they have been so secretive for all these ars. >> woodruff: do you think it's realistic to expect this pope with this set of leaders in thet church, catholic church right now to order them to say we're changing the rule we're changing the law of the catholic church, and this has tchange immediately? >> i don't know that it has to ange immediately, but do i think he can take actions right now. he could fire a cardial, and think that would send a message out to all the other cardinals and bishops, you better not cover up abuse, it's not going to be tolerated. i think my own personal opinion is we're going to hae to rely on secular authorities. i don't see the church chngin anytime soon and i think we're going to have to rely on the attorney generals and law enforcement to keep the churchta accoe. >> woodruff: and you're speaking about the united states

now, or are you saying aroundh the world is. >> i think around the world. i think you could say that we need to rely on them. look at the story in venezuela where a deaf onennage, there ims there, andict it wasn't the church that exposed and stopped it, it was the government that stepped in. >> woodruf but how can you be sure that law enforcement is going to move usin? be in so many countries, the catholic church is a very, you know, has extraordinary power. >> you know, there are no , guarantees, but, you kno haven't seen the church do anything either, and i think that -- i hope the church does mething, but we have not seen the church take actions, and it is worrisome in some of the countries where the catholic officials are so engrained with the police, and so forth, but, you knw, we as an organization can hope to continue to hold them accounble and to do wha we can to protect children. >> woodruff: and just very quickly, are you and others in your organizations, other organizations who represent

survivors speaking now to the vatican to let them know what you think about theeting? >> yes, and we sent pope francis a letter before it started and we outlined five things that we wanted h to do. and, so, he hair has those five things, and we would like s him still do them. >> woodruff: beckthem. >> woodruff: becky ayani, network of those surviving abuse by priests. thank you very much. >> thankou for having me. >> woodruff: as we reported, vice president pence was in colombia today to press the case against nicolas maduro, the man running colombia's starving neighbor to the east: venezuela. confrontations on the border between the countries erupteden this past weas what was a political fight over hut.nitarian aid became viol with support of the pulitzer center, special correspondent

nadja drost and videographer bruno federico have been reporting from venezuela for us the last t weeks and they were in ureña, venezuela saturday. it's become the focal point of the struggle between maduro, and juan guaido, the opposssion nationalbly leader the ues. recognizes as rightful president of venez. >> reporter: the town of ureña on the border with colombia, was the front line on saturday in the bale between the two leaders for control of venezuela. and the weapon ochoice: humanitarian aid for the so-called "women in white," pacifist demonstrators who've helped lead protests throughout the country, their mission was clear. >> ( translated ): the plan today is to reach the heart of the military. if t military don't consent, if they don't see in us the reflection of their mothers, daughters, wives, of whoever suffers, we will have to use force.r:

>> rep they're following a plan devised by the man they now consider their president, juan guaido: try to peel away support of president nicolas maduro fr the military to allow aid into the country. and that meant going up against the national guard, military and police sent in the huneds to guard the three bridges. >> ( translated ): we've had so t ch taken away from us, to the point that we dove fear. >> reporter: but the women in white had little chance to make it to the heavily guarded bridge. by early morning, clashes had already broken out between protestors and the national guard. as protestors push down, and the national guard come forward, the s nfrontations have turned violent, with rod molotov cocktails thrown from one side, and met with tear gas and rubbet bufrom the other. but no matter what happens

arey, protestors say th determined to reach the bridge to help bring humanitarian aid across the bridge into venezuela. among them was a mber of the opposition-held national assembly, joaquin aguilar. >> ( translated ): the goal is to reach the bridge and allow the entrance of humanitarian aid, to break the barrier of repression that the regime of nicolas maduro is imposing on the venezuelan people. >> reporter: as the national guard took to the streets and started ring at protestors ofth rubber bullets, many them were rescued by mobile units of volunteer nurses and brought to the nearest safe house before being transferred to this private health clinic opening its doors to anyone injured. by noon, volunteer doctor solaris medina reported 40 injuries of protestors, all by rubber bullets. by end of day, the tally had reached 150 for that clinic alone. on the colombian side of that bridge, one truck carrying american-donated aid inched into venezuelan territory before it burst into flames.

it was unclear how the fire started, but opposituan leader juano blamed maduro for the fire.im the searine the latest in what has become a violent fight over aid in the country. while the opposition blames maduro for not allowing shipments of food and healthat supplies d by the u.s.-- seen by the madu's government their number one enemy-- the government says the effort to force in aid is a form of foreign intervention and threat to sovereignty. >>translated ): if a person wants to bring across goods, they have to be subject to inspection by authorities.pe what can not bitted-- no country would do this, least of all the u.s.-- is to open a passage, and open the way to whatever may be. >> reporter: after guaido declared himself president on january 23, the military did not rally to his side as he hoped. aid then became a mechanism to force the military into a corner: either disobey madurod and let the aiss, or prevent it, with the repressive tactics the government is known r. while the venezuelan red cross

has offered to administer whatever aid is in the country, it has refused to participate in an operation where alleged political motivations eclipse humanitarian ones. >> translated ): if participate in an activity of politicized aid, we are straying from our fundamental principles. the trust that we are acting with impartiality and independence are the principles that guarantee us access to communities. >> reporter: economist andti pol victor alvarezj is concerned the outbreak of violence over aid pruld become thext for more violence. >> ( translated ): this reaction of violent repression can plant a seed in international public opinion that in venethere is a bloodbath, and so that justify a military intervention from other countries. at is the fear. >> reporter: following the tbreak of violence on the border, guaido was in bogota today with vice president pence at a meeting of regional nations, almost all of whichdu have demanded leave.

d sus farias, a member of the government party sis is the latest in a long string of u.s. provocations: >> ( translated ): when they talk about dialogue, the only dialogue there is that president nicolas maduro should go. first it's said in the united states, and then it's said here. what is the justification?" we don't want to prolong the suffering of venezuelans," but you're ready for there to be war and a military intervention? that doesn't generate suffering? >> reporter: earlier this month, president donald trump announced a new series of broad sanctions against venezuela that included tough measures against the country's all-important oil industry: asset seizures and export sanctions that could cost it $11 billion in lost oil revenue. despite offers of aid from the u.s., the sanctions are expected to nearly obliterate the country's ability to importch eeded food and medication. hyperinflation has meant thatve averagzuelans can't afford to buy medication, driving this woman to beg for antibiotics oni a caracas ro.

her son has spina bifida and club foot. once able to get medication, now she needs any help she can get. and her needs supersede politics. >> ( translated ): what i think is, my mind is totally blocked. i don't speak, say anything, opinionate. and i can't say i won't receive help, i always accept whatever help i get. >> reporter: maduro continues to deny a humanitarian crisis, but it is clear that venezuelans ar in dire need ood and inside the public hospital in the border town of san antonio de tachira, the corridors and rooms are largely empty.r patients edon't come because they know the hospital can't to treat them, or theyol cross intobia. dr. william bahoque shows entire units of the hospital that have been closed. >> ( translated ): a lot of patients arrive in aerious state, and they die on the way here because even the ambulances inen't properly equipped to attend to a patien grave state. and then here, a lot of people die cause we don't have the necessary equipment nor medical

supplies to stabilize them. >> reporter: doctors here often ask patients to buy their own medical supplies. thousands of venezuelas walk across the bridge into colombia evy day. >> the situation in the country is chaotic. every day we are worse off. hope of prospering, let alone surviving, in their country, everyday we are worse off. we work three times as hard to live worse a lot of work, less money. >> reporter: edwin perez and his family traveled over 24 hours to arrive at this vital crossing. as a bus driver, along with his wife, a nurse, they can't t.ke ends mee this family may make their way to peru, but they have no idea where go after they cross the bridge. edwin's wife, niurys yeguez: >> ( translated ): we are risking practically everything. we left it all behind: our house, our work, our car.e just to leerything suddenly because you can't get

what you need. it's so upsetting. >>ireporter: one day after t crossing maduro closed all land borders leaving other families who could not flee with no options. for the pbs newshour, reporting with bruno federico, i'm nadja drost in urena, venezuela. >> woodruff: a new rule from thr p administration would change what kinds of family planning clinics can receive federal funding. it is being celebrated by conservative anti-abortion groups and raising alarms among abortion rights groups. william brangham explains: >> reporter: the rulge involves title 10, the federal program providing birth control caand reproductive health re to an estimated four million low income women. the new rule says ang group receivtle 10 money has to be physically and financially separate from any group that provides or refers women for abortions.

the changes expected to the administration and conservative groups counter that they simply want to support ce gers that putater emphasis on natural family planning and absinence counseling. we start with first of two views. doreen doreen is senior director of government relations forwo concerned men of america. welcome to the "newshour". >> thank you. >> rouorter: so i knowr organization was strongly supportive of this rulae chnge. why do you think it was a good idea? >> it's important toealize the title 10 program from inception made it clear abortion is not a method of familylanning this rule is another opportunity to make that statutory restriction a reality, and i think it's important that people derstand that the family planning program, the contraception,he educatio the other screenings, the other things that are really impor rtt

men and low-income women, for any woman, will contue to be the bedrock of that who is all about. d, so, we'rnow going to be in a place where organizations that may have cosmingled te activities are going to have to make a choice. >> the main organization you'rea ing about here is planned parenthood. they'd argue that this is an attempt to zero them out, and they argue that what happens to althe other seices that they provide in communities with lots of low-income women, are there enough groups that could fill the gap if they suddenly have to go away? do you worry that's a possible concern? >> well, i don't wor bcause, right now, we have federally-qualified health nters all over the country that could be a part of this program and do provide sethvices ugh the title ten program. we have other organizations that have applied d maybe they haven't been the ones that have been selected but a just as

qualified. remember, this is a small amount of feral dollars, you know, considering the amount of health services that go out for family planning in communities, whethe throe states or other organizati ds. >> reporteyou think that organizations -- some of the organizations you're describingf might be som these so-called crisis pregnancy centers which really try to talkomen out of having an abortion. do you think those organizations should have ac aess to federal money? >> well, i think it's all types of providers that want to serv women and do what's best for their health and well being and the health of their child would be a part of this program. i don't necessarily either -- would even charterize them as talking women out of abortion. i think we want to provide real, honest information about what abortion is and, unfortunately, i think that planned parenthood has mad abortion the bedrock of their business and, because of that, that's justohat they d, and that's what they're known for, but it may not be the right thing for every woman who mbe is in an unintended pregnancy

but the title ten program needs to be very clear in its mission, and its mission is to prvide family planning services that do not consider abortion a method of family planning. >> reporter: as you say, leortion isn't the right thing for every sioman, but, under these rules, any organization that receives federal money can't about abortion at all, can't provide abortion at all, can't likely even mention it, and really think that that is providing for a woman an accurate and appropriate representation of what she should choose for herself? >> well, i don't think, william, you've actually accurately, youw suggested that -- well, ,ou maintain that they couldn't even talk about nd that's just not the case under these rules, so let me be clear about that. >> reporter: page 19 says ae tin project may not perform, promote, refer for or support abortion as a method of family planning nor take any other affirmative action the assist a patriotic to secure such an abortion. >> well, that's true in terms of

referring to a clinic that does abortion. they're not required to do that any longer. that is something they were requ ded to do, but sn't preclude them from counseling on abortion if a woman would want ow about abortion as an option. that's very important and it' important to say that because planned parenthood h a said there ag order rule here and that's just not true. counseling for abortion can still take place -- >> reporr: only if aoman comes in and says, i want to have an abortion, though. >> if she asks f infoation about that, and then the clinic could also say, you know, we don't have that as a part of what we do,nd she can find another location that can. i mean, there are many ways ofa finding information this day and age about places and what they. do we all have thern inte, so that's always a possibility. >> reporter: doreen doreen, concerned women of america, thank you very much. >> thank you, william. >> reporter: as we discussed this rule change will have a big impact on planned parnthood.

that organization does perform abortions in addition to other health servings. joining me is dr. leana wen, the president of plann parenthood. dr. wen, thank you very much for being here. i'm curious, you've heard this conversation and the supporters of this rule change. what is youreaction? >> my reaction is that we have to talk about the real impact of thetitle ten gag rule and who it will impact, which is four *+ million women and families with low income. title ten was intended to serve those who orthowise would have trouble accessing healthcare. it's families with low income, it's people who live in rural areas, it's people who don't have health insurance, and we're talking about breast and cervical cancer scree about s.t.i. and h.i.v. tests, about preventave care, affordable birth control, and the titan ten gagu r would dismeant the safety net program, and the impact is going to be putting women's healthcare at risk all across the country. for so many patients who rely on title ten, wehereir only

sources of healthcare. >> reporter: but supporters of this believe if funding goes the other organizations that those other organizations will fill the gap and take up the other servicous worry will disappear. >> but that's not what enthe ev and science show us. we know that, when people cannot go to their proider ofhoice, they delay care or go without we saw what happened in texas when politicians forced planned parenthood health centers to goes, and fewer women got access to healthcare. in iowa, wh hn ourealth centers were forced to close, again because of restrictive laws that politicians passed, we saw that the rates of sexally transmitted infections skyrocketed. this is about peop lives. in this country, we have huge unmet need, and what this title ten gag rule does is to punish those who already face a disproportiona barrier when it comes to healthcare. >> reporter: if this rulewa change goes f and you're

required to be financially and physically separate, what would that mean to planned parenthood clinics all over the country? >> i want to talk about what this means for pents, for people's healthcare and what it means for patient rights, because the title ten gag rule also has a gag which is tors prohibit dnd nurses from telling our patients full and accurate medical infoation. that compromises the oath that i took when i became a doctor. u can't be telling patients, t ll, i can't give you referrals, go looke internet yourself. i mean, that's just not appropriate. it's preventing us. it's having president trump and the trump administration telling doctors what we can and cannot tell our patients about their health options. that's why ov 100 physician and public health groups oppose this gag rule, includg the american medical association, the american nur a's associatio it is something that we as planned parenthood will nottand for.

>> reporter: dr. wen, if the rule proceeds as planned, though, what might that mean for clinics? would you have to simply forgo that money or would you go rough the process of trying to somehow disentangle your facilities financially and physically? >> planned parenthood will not accept gagged funds. we wl never enforce our nurses and physicianso censor themselves, and we would never ask patients to me to a heth center that provides them with inclute and inaccurate medical information. that's just not who we are.e if ttle ten gag rule were implemented, we know that fer health centers would accept these funds and, as a result,s its patiee going to suffer because patients will not have access to the care that they need. we as planned parenthood, though, will fight back through every avenue bece a's our promise to our patients that we will be here for you.

>> reporter: dr. leana wen, president of planned parenthood thu very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: it is a crowded group of >> woodruff: it is a crowded group of democrats vying to take n president trump in 2020. the road to the oval office h begins ndful of key primary states, and the candidates are already out in full force. s ov is a question hovering er this democric 2020 field, whether you're elizabeth warren stumping oe weekend in new hampshire or exactly comal s in iowa. how to balance appealing to progressives in the party versus the moerates. today warren, a senator froms massachusettde her own stand on her own campaign financing. she says she's swearing off fancy reception or big-money tuned raisers only with people

who can write the big checks. the broader political influence es part of her pitch. >> the time has c that we have to acknowledge that a government that works only for the rich and powerful the corrupt. >> woodruff: harris, a senator from california, spent her weekend in iow, in a cnn interview, she distanced herself from a label some in her part are embracing. >> in terms of where i am, who i am, i am a progressive democrat. d am a democrat, a prou democrat, i'm not a socialist. >> woodruff: the first caucus statalso got to see former housing secretary juliaán castro for the first time as and ate, as well as hawaii congresswoman tuls gabbard. two other declared challengers, minnesota senator amy klobuchars and new center cory booker made stops in other states holding early contests,

south carolina and nevada reasectively. itn active weekend, too, for other democrats who could join the race entually. ohio senator vard brownited neda, bill deblasio was iowa, and so were michael bennett and rer governor john hickenlooper from colorado. hickenlooper told democrats a governor like him might be a better fit for the wte house. >> i think a lot of people in congress are great up at coming up with vision tat debatinghe issues. we need dreamers and debaters. i'm a doer. >> woodruff: he and other would-be candidates have said they could reach their final decisiha tune. and brings us to "politics oknday" with amy walter of the coo"colitical report" and the host of politics with amy walter on wync radio and tamara keith of npr, she co-hosts the npr

politics podcast.he o to both you have. it's politics monday we mentioned ten candidates, we may have left somebody out.ap oulogies, if we could. help us understand, what are the candidates trying to do at this stage of the campaign. it's late february. >> t rigt. so it's early. there are important things to be done this early on one is testing out your message, working , interacting with voters, figuring out who you are and answering the question why are you running for president. t aly're trying to differentiate them srvelings trying to find a way to rise ups in whatlready an incredibly large field and likely growing. >> it's so early. i don't remember it being this crowded and active and this early to have this many candidates going into places like iowa and south carolina and to have the lines getting into some of these events snaking around the corner a year from the primary. eth justoes to show u how

serious democratic voters in those states or voters who are interested in looking at these democratic candidates are. tam, sorry, you have -- it'sa little bit like spring training. you're trying out all your different pitches and seeing what works and what doesn't, but it's bause you have a wide-open field. there is really no obvious frontrunner. joe biden starts off at the top of all the polls in large part because he's the best-known candidate in field. there's no guarantee his standing on top of thse poll sticks once we get the whole field in place and the campaigns really start. and tam made the point aboutin everybody is tto find their lane. democratic voters are trying to figure out whathey want do they want the most liberal candidate? do they want the candidate who's most likelnay to beat trump? do they want a pragmatic progressive? do they want a doer? a dreamer, as john hickenlooper saidand there's everything and a lot in between for voters.

>> woodruff: so, tam, are the differentiating themselves? olis is a finding your way with the blinon enterprise, isn't it? >> well, it is a little bit. so elizabet elizabeth warren haf cuhe things to differentiate herself. she's put out plans for a couple of items, a wealth tax, a childcare plan, and she's talking about fundg raisd not taking money from big money donors. atame time you are having other candidate differentiating themselves on policies bualso sheer numbers, on their ability to raise money. bernie sanders came out of the gate with this block bustg fundraising number, kamala harris has a big number and amy klobuchar had pretty solid first-day number as well. >> woodruff: what you both aresa ng is they're testing the waters. they don't know which one of these is going to appeal the mog. >> that's . i mean, we've talked about this before and i'm sure we're going to talk about it again, when you

listen to primary voters right now, either in polling or talkg to them one-on-one, this idea about somebody who can beat donald tru goes to the top of the list, ahead of everything else. now, can beat donald trump or most electables isn eye of the one democratic strategist says their favorite candidate is the most electable. but what's unique is thet presidmself will get involved in these primaries. >> woodruff: you think? you ink so? right, he will be live-tweeting these debates, and we've neveenr nything like that. so voters are actually going to get a chance to see how ther favorite candidate really matches up with donald trump before they're the nominee. >> woodruff: really does stand up to him. and, tam, this conversation, we heard a little bit of that from cam cam -- from kamala haris, ae they democratic socialists where bernie sanders, is the complete

opposite of that? do they need to differentiate themselves in that regard right now? because the president is already pos ting to all democrd saying they're all socialists. >> and president tru it very clear that he would love to run against socialism, andno the way bernie sanders cratses it or the way demo would define it in terms of, you know, medicare for all or somees of te other social programs. he wants to run against red socialism, and he, is i mea, looking forward to it. and democrats are still work on their answer. bernie sanders has been answering it for yrs, and other democrats are trying to figure out how to not rep t word "socialist" while saying whathey believe in policy-wise or how to define socialism. one fascinating thing is youn voters tend to have less negative views about the term "socialism "than older voters.

>> woodruff: amy, have you heard democrats come up with a formulthat basically inoculates them against this republican? char >> there are also democrats who say this attack on socialism just can't going to work. you knowi remember back in 2016 when a lot of us, me, probably, said, you know, voters are going to beepelled by a republican candidate like donald trump who says the things he says about immigrants, about muslims, about women -- actually, that didn't matter as cych. in 2018, it was nelosi is the boogie person, and we're g ing to push away voters from democrats by usr name a lot, by attaching nancy pelosi to all these democratic candidates to portray them as far too liberal and f the mainstream. so the best-laid plans, theseho ideas abou you are going to position, but it goes to the

heart of what the whe house strategy is for 2020, which is it's not really about the president meeting the voters where they are in the middle,g it's pushderate voters away from democrats by calling the democrats out too -- too out of step. >>oodruff: quickly, do we see the formation of what president trump's argument is going to be? >> yeah. is is the early stages of it, but when you hear him starting to say finish the i walltead of build the war, that's 2020. when you hear him talking about socialism in a state of the union address, that's 2020. >> yeah, absolutely, and hoping that he can still talk about a good economy and checking a loft of boxes off which is why you're hearing about a china deal nod h korea all this week. >> woodruff: i delivered on all the things i said i was going to. >> correct, correct. >> woodruff: amy walter, tame keith, thank you. >> you're welcome.

>> woodruff: it was a night to celebrate the best of film. and it came at a moment when hollywood is evaluating how to promote diversity. the 91st academy awards showcased the triumphs, but wasn't without controversy. in recent weeks, we sat down with a number of the nominees. aamna nawaz is here to ta look at the ceremony, part of "canvas," our regular arts and culture series. ( applause ) >> regina king! >> rorter: a host-less night at the oscars with winners that spanned race, gender and cultures. s e four main acting awardnt to mahershala ali for "green book." >> oh my god >> repter: rami malek for his portrayal of queen's lead singer freddie mercury in "bohemian rhapsody." and regina king for "if beale street could talk," based on james baldwin's novey of a love starly destroyed by racism and hate in 1970s new york. >> rememr, love is what

brought you here. and if you have trusted love this far, don'panic now. >> reporter: king spoke with the newshour about the film earlier this month. >> it is, as a black american, just a reminder of how resilient, you know, we are, when you look at our history, and that love is a universal thing, love pushing through trauma. >> reporter: olivia coleman took home her first oscar for best actress in "the favourite." and ruth e. carter and hannah beachler became the first african-american women to win best costume and production design respectively for "black panther." carter spoke to the newshour about wanting to showcase the diversity of black culture, blended with futuristic themes. >> this was an opportunity to take, you know, the afro-future or the aesthetics of african diaspora and infuse it into this culture, and bring it to life in that way >> oh!nd >> reporter: ainning his

first academy award, director spike lee. for "blackkklansman," in which a black detective goescover to infiltrate the ku klux klan in the 1970s. the ceremony also reached across cultures. >> he would remind me of a great xhosa phrase: belungu abazi ubu ndiyaxoka." >> reporter: comedian trevor noah, who's fromouth africa, played an inside joke in his tive tongue xhosa, pretending to say one thing but actuallyng sa"white people don't know i'm lying." >> ya se puede hablar español en los oscars. th reporter: and spanish speakers celebrater recognition, too. >> muchas gracias a mexico. >> reporte alfonso cuarón won best director, cinematography and foreign film for "roma," a semi-autobiographical depiction of his childhood in 1970s mexico. while viewers saw wider representation within the winners and the fis themselves, the academy did not go without criticism-- namely for the best picture winner "green book." spike lee and others slammed the award, calling the film a too familiar story of a white person

saving a black person fr peril. we turn now to two of our frequent guides to the movies: mike sargent is chief film critic of wbai radio and co-president of the black film critics circle. and, ann hornaday, chief film critic for "the washington post." welcome back to you both. let's start with the "green book" which is where our piece left off. a couple of the headlines coming out of la night's ceremony. this proves hollywood is still a cork for whiteor sav another headline why doos cars, keep falling for racial reconciliation faint sissments there's an argument to be made maybe the "green book" wasn't maybe the best pick what do you think of that conversation? >> i think it a little overloaded. it's an honest movie. it's a buddy comedy about, you know, two men traveling in the utm crow h, so, obviously, it is about racism, and raci reconciliation, but i don't think it ever set out to be the

swer to those things or to, you know, to cure racism or to, you know, i think a lot of vitriol is sort of centered around it that it maybe never really deserved. it's a small movie with modst aspirations, very much elevated by its two strins performances from the main stars. it's a family comedy. it's a pg-13 movie you can take your entire family to so it's important to bear in mind what a movie is trying to achieve and judge it on those merits rather' than whatre bringing to it. >> reporter: what do you bring of the criticism, they say somet of the fwere bent to fit a good narrative. that's not anything new in hollywood. is the criticism fair, you avthink? >> youto look it from two per seskts. ive a black film critic. t i know i'm minority. i love the film, but i don't know another black critic who did, they all hate it and for

all the tropes, the mike savior, the magical negr all that, and i understand it and they're all valid point, but i think the probm here is nott it's not historically accurate, but this is not the don shirley story. sure, don shirley is more interesting than nick, but it'so about that. it's about when these two men meet, the relationship they had and thefect they had on each other. this is noa film for blac folks. it's a film for white folks, and a film that the crit ticism has beat it spoon feeds racism. you know what, you do have to spoon feed racism to people who don't see it or who don'tn necessarily acowledge it. >> but i will want to add that the audience i saw it with was makessed audience and everyone in the room was enjoying it. >> oh, i saw it with friends and they loved it. >> i think the american viewer responded incredibly positive to this film, and even especially older people who der reme

that time have said, even though it's idealized and sentimentalized, that it does -- you know, it has something to contribute to our understanding of that history, especially when you think of bringing young people in and just getting them started on this road to derstanding, you know. >> reporter: let me ask you, a lot of headlines out of this last night had to do with a celebration of diversity. e onmber of firsts took plac stage, a number of people we don't usually see walking acro the oscar stage. one of the points we were talking about earlier, one to have the diversityha anglest hasn't gotten a lot of attention was the fact theovie centers is story of an indigenous domestic worker. how organic it felt to have soma people from different countries. it was a very global oscars thii year and ik that's a direct effect of the new members that have been coming into the

academy over the past few years, we fos opened race and gender but it's become a much more international organization and cosmopolitan, and i ink they're pulling their lens back in a really gat way to find filmc nd cinematistories everywhere, and from a whole bunch of pple. just seeing hannah beachler and ruth e. carteer up e, and all these visions and voices, they're not there because of what they are, they are there because of what they make and the specific talons and visions they brought to th hope, and hope that's what we're nl goig for. >> reporter: the fact that alfonso cuaroón won last night moans at five of the last six best director oscars have been won byexican film-makers, which is sort of extraordinary in and of its is. at the same time you look at representation in hollywood. u.c.l.a. was an annual report

looking at hollywood diversity based on 2017 films in their latest 2019 report. but you look at who's represented in all fil roles, only 5% of all film rolewere for latino characters, vastly underrepresented when it comes to people on the screen. how do you reconcile the two stories? >> by nomiting "roma," nominating it in multiple categories and by the few diictors that are there ging them a lot of accolades andle ackning they do great work. that's the only way to acknowledge it. or reconcile it. the academy reflects hollywood in general. they said it's a mostly older white male clufnlt well, that who's running hollywood. it's only beginning to change, and that's why we'reie the nominations we're seeing. if you look at the amount of people in the best picure who were people of color who

directed these films, th's a first. ruth carter, that's a first. the director of spiderman into e spiderverse, that's a first. mahehala ali winning two oscars, only denzel has done that. it's glass half empty or full. >> reporter: what the futureos e oscars will hold, mike sargent, ann hornaday, thank you. >> woodruff: questions of race and power are obviously not limited to the movies. in tonight's "brief but spectacular," we hear fr cultural theorist, author and professor brittney cooper. she calls on us to look at the past during this black history month and recognize change should not always be gradual. cooper recently came out with a new book, "eloquent rage: a black feminist discovers her

superpower." >> i'm a black feminist, capital b, capital f. i'm unapologetic black and i'm unapologetic a feminist.in and look, depeon what circles you're in, it's hard to be both those thinme at the same but, i think that being both those things is the thing that itll save us. if time had a raceould be white. white people feel like they own time and control history and there's a way that even if you go back to the early western philosophers that everybody loved, my least favorite is george hegel, which said, you f ow, "africa is no historic parte world." so, in the 1700s and 1800s, various groups of white, european men got together andha just decidedafrica didn't matter in the span of world history. i me, talk about having some cojones. time has a history and so do black people. and part of the reason we have, for instance, black history moseh in this country is bec we literally have to make the argument that black people have acally done things that ar

significant to the creation of the nation-state, and it turns out if we didn't have things like black history month, apparently people would not believe that black people were actually significant historical actors. we keep on re-litigating basically the 1860s in this country. we have racial animus the likes of which we have not seen in my lifetime. ksresurgence of law enforcement engaging black fn ways that are often deadly and often with impunity.it people dictate pace of social inclusion. and they do so by ying, "we'll get there. why are you trying to push us so fast?"d that k pushing back the clock, which is a phrase that we use all the time, is a way in which those in power like to say to those of us who don't have power, "we're going to determine not only what you get, but when you get it." and that is the criticaler dice between young activists who are in the street saying "change it now! change it today! we don't want your gradualism." they remind me of the debatesov

slavery in this country and ending slavery. in the 1800s, there we gradualists who said, "we want to end slavery, but we want to do it in steps so, we'll free you, but you know, can you work 10 years? can we sort of gradually phase you out of slavery?" and there were others id," we're going to pass this amendment and at that moment, you will be r ee." and ose of us who continue to struggle, the white supremacist, capitalt, patriarchal power structure, immediate freedom is what we want. gradualism does not serve us. there is a truth-telling that happens at txus of blackness and feminism. at that space of having to work twice as hard to get half as far, which is a black proverb, at that space of knowing that so often, you can be the dost chick in the room and i'll give it to the mediocre white man in om. putting those things together gives you a clarity and a vision about where we can go if we stop oppressing black folks and women and gender non-conforming folk.

and so, black feminism taught me that and it can teach you that, too. i'm brittney cooper and this is my brief, but spectacular take on my eloquent rage. >> woodruff: you can watch additional "brief bu spectacular" episodes on our website, pbs.org/newshour/brief. and tonight. newshour for i'm judy woodruff. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thanyou and see you on. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> babbel. a language app that teaches real-life conversati a new language, like spaniench, german, italian, and more. babbel's 10-15 minute lessons are available as an app, or online. more informaon on babbel.com. >> bnsf railway. >> consumer cellular.

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