tonight on kqed newsroom newsroom, congressman adam schiff, chair of the committee joins us in the studio to discussing politicalel dements. we hear from california's first-ever surgeon general. also, san francisco moves to restrict e-cigarettes asarnew rese emerges around the health effects. plus from the runway to the nightclub, fashion icon isaac mizrahi. hello, a welcome to kqed newsro newsroom. i'm thuy vu. robert mueller issued his report today. it's unclear when william barr

may make the port possibility. meanwhile, some of those investigations are being led by california cgressman adam schiff. he joined us thimorning before the justice department announced it had received mueller's report. nice to have you here in person, nothing on a little skype box. >> i know, this is much webette >>l get to the mueller investigation in just a moment, but i wanted to ask you aboutbe north korea,use this is breaking as we're speaking just this morning presidenmp tweeted that he is rolling back sanctioning ag nnstth korea imposed by his own treasury department just yesterday. how do you think this would affect u.s./north korea relations? >> it's a mystery and deeply troubling and abrupt turn of events justt from yday when eohn bolton was pushing out information, we sanctioning they ships that are evading sanctions, helping north koreans cheat on these sanctions. and his own national security

adviser is basicly repudiated about i the president. i don't know what it means except it's furtr disarray. >> does it sound likeo favors kim jong-un? sara huckabees sand made the statements that he likes kim ong-un. >> clearly he's his own national security adviser and he thinkinh winning personal is enough to get the north koreans change their whole view oforhe necessitack of necessity of the nuclear program. i think it's a dangerous derangement to think he is going to somehow, by acting nicely treating nicely, saying that he loves chairmankim, change north korean behavior. it's a real danger to the country. white the administration goes thugh this conflict with itself, the north korean spins on its nuclear program and continues building its >> i want to ask you also about

the trump investigations. there's been a numberof revelations this week about president trump and the people around him, everything fm his cozy relationship with deutsche bank, to ivanka trump and jared kushner reportedly using private messaging services to conduct official white house business. what's your take on this development? >> we have a lot of concerns about the intervention, for example, to overrule his own chief of staff, overrule the agencies andgrand security clearances to his daughter or son-in-law. the enormous portfolio they have been given in termsf domestic and foreign policy of the country, and the fact they may be communicating with foreign heads of state and others using encrypted apps, as a way of avoiding scrutiny, but also maybe evading lawyers in terms of ecdkeeping requirements.

>> and you're leading investigation, are you discovering anything new that we haven't already heard about? >> certainly there are things we are learning that are not public yet. us?what can you tell >> i can tell you this, what is in the public domain is almost damning enough. what i find so striking, and this is a counter-intelligence issue, and our focus is on counter-intelligence, has a foreign power in any way compromised u.s. persons, including the president. we know now that the president well into the campaign wascr ly trying to do a deal with russia to make himself hundreds of millions of dollars, seeking the kremlin's help to do it. this was toscow trump tower, and that is so deeply compromising. when it was discovered, the president said, well, i mig have lost the election, why should i miss out on that tney? tay be the president's view to this date. i might lose my reelection, why

miss out on making that money by criticizing to vladimir putin or standing up tohim? i would be a fool to do, no, you would be acting in thest inte of the country. >> there anything that would rise to the l of high crimes and misdemeanors? >> we i think willn see bob mueller's report what evidence i hope has produced. that evidence may be -- >> are you getting a closer in your investigation? >> we are certainly making process in termshe of conspiracy issues, the obstruction issue as well as the suoader intelligence issues, the compromise , but we have a lot of work yet to be done, and what will largely determine how long it will take us to do our works how forthcoming the department will be, and i have tosay, i am seeing discouraging signs that the justice department may be adopting a double standard, in that it provided 880,000 pages of

discovery in the klining e-mail investigation to a republican congress, but it w may be trying to take the position it does not have to sharent equivanformation in the trump administration. i think if it trying to ado that double standard, it will so deeply damage the department's reputation for partiality, in much the tame way supreme court decision in bush v gore colored people's perception of the court for ears tocome. >> there are a lot of democrats running in the 2020 rac more than 15 so far. who are you endorsing? >> i haven't made an endorsement, and frankly i want to give it some time to see how ese candidates are vetted. >> is there someone you're leaning toward? >> you know, i think some are already showing they're frankly not rea forprimetime and others are showing they're doing quite well and they're ready. >> who is not ready? >> i don't think i'm going to go into that, but i will tell you at the end of the day i am

supporting it was summed you by protesters's esign, any adult in 2020. >> whoever gets through the gauntlet i will support. we have to make sure this nightmare doesn't gob ond four years. >> and political causes are pretty divisive right now in the democratic party. do you think that as the presidential race draws even closer these will prve to be litmus tests for the candidates? >> i don't think they'll be tests. i think we'll see a competition of ideas in the democratic primary. the candidates with the best ideas, with the broadest appeal will hopefully emerge as our nominee. that, i think, ought to be someone that can bo excite the base of the party, but also win over tse moderate voters who voted for donald trump, because they were at the end of their career, they had nothing set aside for their retirement, they

were goi to have to work until they dropped, and they were willing to roll the dice on donald trump. he hasn't helped them at all. i think it's going to be vital caseur nominee to make the we can deal with this, we can improve the economy, and were' hore going to do it. >> you sound like a candidate yourself. would you weigh running for president in the future?, >> i would rxcept like aoc, i'm simply too young.r [ laugh >> i think we have enough candidates as it is. >> a youthful adam schiff, thank you for being here. we appreciate your time. >> thank you.>> this week, san francisco 'city attorney dennis herrera and proposed legislation to block e-cigarettes, and a second ju.l would be from l prevented from licing city property in the near. nearly 21% of students say they

have vaped in the past month. a new ucf stud,reveals that vaping exposes teens to cancer-causing toxins. joining me is danielle ramo, adjungrossor at ucsf. welcome to the program. >> thank >u. you and your colleagues published a study looking at the health effects mornings teens. what did you find? >> we looked at three groups of adlessants, one group who reported using an e-cigarette but other nicotine-containing prod3wts. another 0u7 who used e-cigarettes and also traditional cigarettes, d a third group of control, who had not used any nicotine-containing products in their lives. we found the presence ofsi metabolites, toxins that have links to cancer in the urine and saliva inhe e-cigarette only

users compared to the controls. so that suggested to us that there are toxins pesent in the substances, and we did look at that. within the group of teens who used e-cigarettes only, we evaluated the metabolite presence of those who reported using certain common flavors compared to those who did n usflavors. we found the presence of one metabolite among those who reported using fruit flavor. that's important, because fruit is the most commonly used flavor of e-garettes among adolescents. there's some suggtion that it's possible that fruit flavors are more toxic than thosee that ot fruit flavors. >> there's also a big

misconception there's no inicotine. >>ortantly there's a misconception that ju. l does not contain nicotine. >> how much do they have? >> in a o pack juul, there is approximately a simila amount of nicotine as in a pack of cigarettes. i can't say how much that means a teen would have to use in a give day or week,ut it's approximately an equivalent amount as in a pack of cigarettes. >> you have spent nearly two decades researches how teens experienc addictive behaviors. how is vaping compare? >> it's similar to at least other kinds of tobacco addiction most contain nicotine, which indeed changes the brain to make it crave theas substanceoon

as it's done being dosed. that includes whether it's dosed from an e-cigarette, there's nothing different abou that process with nicotine containing e-cigarettes than in any other cigarette, which is an extremely -- this is a rather interesti phenomenon. other studies have shown that they are a gateway, but at the same time many teens have in negative view of smoking and tobacco companies in general. why would teen vape rs want to smoke. >> i don't think this he many ould say they wouldn't want to be smokers, but because there is nicotine in these substances, the brain changes in response, the body becomes addicted and it mie a natural subsequent process to then pick up a

cigarette. do they ne more and more nicotine? the more they become addicted? >> correct. that's a fundamental part of addiction. so 3/4 more likely to go on to become cigaretteok s. what do you think of san francisco's proposed legislation to ban the sale of cigarettes for anyone, including adults? is that good public policy? >> my research shows and my general opinion is we ought to be thinking about prenting e-cigarettes from getting into the hands of young people. i do believe these products are not safe for youth. it's not necessarily the case we teed to ban sales of substances in stores or online to all adults. it's fairly clear ty are less risky than traditional igarettes, so i don't think our policyeds tore more strict than it is for traditional products. at you seem to be saying is the laws around advertising

campaign involving e-cigarettes. >> i do believe federally the fda should be regulates e-cigarettes in the most strict way, and that includes marketing with online media youtube, and through influencers. all right. danielle ramo, nice to have you here. >> it's been a pleasure. in january, governor gavin newsom appointed nay ni bercaris as california's first-ever surgeon general. she's been working to improve the health of children exposedic to t stress. she is plans as to expand on that experience, by ung her new role to combat the root causes of serious health conditions across the state. the doctor joins me now in the studio. good to see you. >> st's great you. wonderful to be here. >> we've had ym on our prog

before, talking about the impact of toxic stress on the children. can you explain the difference between normaltressnd toxic stress? >> yeah, when we talk about rm stress, n stress is the stuff at we experiences, but with safe, nurturing, buffering relationships that or our bodies recover. toxic stress is actually the body's stress response. it's what happens when kids inu parti i exposed to high doses of adversity without those adequate buffering systems. >> for example? >> yeah, so, for example, something like experiencing a growing up with a pisrent wh mentally ill or substance dependent. >> or child abuse. >>abuse orneglect, right? when that hpens, the body's

stress response releases stress hormones. that's affects the way the bodyl ds. when they get the buffering, nurtures relationships, that helps to turn off the stress response. if they don't have enough, it gets overactive and can harm health inhe short term and in the long term. >>lthat are some of the h effects that can happen from that? >> so this science really came from a huge study done by the cdc and kaiser permanente. what they saw was individus exposed tigh doses of advsity in childhood saw double the risk of heart disease, 2 1/2 times the risk of stroke, significantly increased risk of cancer, alzheimer's, et cetera. in kids we see increased risk of things like infections, asth ma and things you would expect like

behavior roblems. pediatcians take offense with the term toxic stress. what would i hu say? >> ik what we recognize is when kids are exposed to high dose adversity and for some reason theytharen't getting buffering, caregiving system, caually it's e perhaps the parent or caregiver themselves has experienced significant adversity in their childhood, and these things seem to be ro handed down generation to generation. what i would say is really when we talk about the term "toxic stress" we're talking about the biological response. that's not blame or shame. we're talking about families who need or support. >> so then clinically, what can do you to helpil the cen who suffer from toxic stress? >> what the sience tells is actually pretty clear. two things, number one, early

detection and early prevention includes outcome. things like healthy relationships, mental health treatment, exercise, nutrition, sleep, even mindfulness like meditation, actually help to calm down the biolodge call stress response. >> and besides -- let me ask you one more question about toxic stres because california already has a law that would require all children on the state's medicaid program to recnive trauma scrs starting next year. as surgeon general, what elseu o lan to do to further tackling this issue? >> i think one of the big reasons i was appointed to be surgeon general, and especially now, is that we do see our state is not only taking bold strides in terms of this new legislation, but in addition putting significant investments behind the infrastructure that we need to be able to implement that. the role -- in the role of surgeon general, i get to not

only advise the administration, but alsohe communicate with public about why this is so important and what we can do about it >> and you think that it really is a public health crisis, and there's some sort of national campaign needed on this. >>his is funny. i actually looked this up when i surgeon role of general. i want to do everything by the book, and if you look at the cdc definition of a public healths, cri it's something that affects a lot of people, and adverse childhood experiences affect two thirds of right?nian >> wow. >> in fact 16% of californians have four or more the traditional ten adverse childhood experiences. and the effects are significant. we're talking about -- for dhmeone who has four or more adverse chod experiences, double the risk for heart disease, double the risk for nc , 2 1/2 times the risk of stroke, triple the risk of chronic lung disease.

besides focusing on children's health what are some of your priorities. >> one thing that docksic stress can affect across the life ou e. that's one place, figuring out how all of our systems can address this issue, but in addition it's really aroundki l at healthy starts for every child, early childhood,a health equity i think is a key issue, that we also want to address. making sure that every community has a tcess excellent outcomes is just -- it's the right thing to do. >> it's smart policy. >> yeah, that's right. doctor, congratulations on your new post. we wish you all the best in your new role. >> thank you. nice tfee you here. for more that three decades isaac miss razz hi has been one of the fashion world's mostni ico designers. he's appeared on "project runway

all-stars." he's also a illed storyteller and entertainer with a new memoir and jazzy cabaret show reflecting on his rich, colorful life. joining me now in the studio is isaac mizrahi. knife to hahe you . >> nice to be here. nice to be here. >> i hear that san francisco is one of favorite u.s. cities. >> yeah. >> why do you like it so much? >>l,oh, we you know, for one the food is bazing. td and i are in town together doing the show tonight, and it's like, yew, a culinary catal of the world. i mean that, like yes. also i think that political i feel very at home heree i like i have a lot of like-minded souls in san francisco. you don't feel th a lot of cities, but you do here. >> you know, much of your book i enjoyed reading it very much. you have a niceic authe writing style. much of it is about year childhood. you were born in brooklyn, in a

syrian community, where you uck out like a chubby gay thumb, as you write. what was it like to be so different in a very tditional community? >> it wasn't easy. i didn't have the easiest early experience of life. also, i had an illness, it was spinal meningitis, and that was very difficult, like at 4 years old. so the formative years were hard, but then suddenly, after eighth grade, i wased admi to schoolming arts high which was the exact opposite of this parochial religious backgroundasright? itike a completely eye-opening thing. >> did you blossom ere? i blossoms, and actually one of the themes of the book, i kind of learned optimism just by the circumstance changing. you know, that's what taug me optimism. this thing was just a complete

reversal. i know a lot of people like me who had hard starts don't always opportunity so i was really lucky. >> and from a very young ge when you got your first barby doll, was it4? 5? >> 6. >> even at that young age earp making dresses. where d the creative tendencies come from? >> sudden knoyou know, it's lik dread or misery into joy. i don't know how understood that at a young age. ng that the only t fuels art or creation is unhappiness. i'm sorry to say that, but to m' th true. the other end of it, it's kind of like a -- an alchemical thing. >> and fast forward to our

times, when in recent years there's been a great push to bovet ity in the art world, including the world of fashion. you see moreodels of different colors walking down the runway. >> so true. >> about you you alsoseed brands being called out for ad campaigns that are viewed as racist. wth i proving to be such a challenge in the fashion world, given that many bigbrands are multinational companies. >> that for the life of me i nnot understand. i feel like i have done my part and my best parto change whatever culture i could in that respect. i think like my casting was always so diverse. not just terms of ethnicity, but also in size. i like all kinds of shapes, right? also, the idea that i kind of rehed out so hard with that target collection all those years ago, and tried to diversify in terms of what the

actual accessibility of the product, and the size range, too. in designers clothes, the size range is l ke this,d when you work for target and also qvc. >> you are more aware ohe real population. >> absolutely. >> the target line was in 2002, now a cabaret performer. are there any parallels between designing and performing live? >> well,e you know, of cou show is a show, and with the runway shows, there was big preparation that was a must. but really personally there is noom rison. i love this idea of performing. i've been doing it even when i was designing clothes. clubsperforming at little in new york city and the environs, doing these crazy shows with friends ory myself. and now i'm in this world mostly performing. it is -- it's a kind of -- i was just writing about this in my

journal this morning. it's a kind of realization that e.did not expect in my li i did not expect to be doing something that brought me so much persony, you know? like fashion was like a duty i don't know why i felt it was like my duty towomen. maybe that's the way i was raised by my mom. it was such a priority for her, as much as i loved fashion and love it still, it's be like a duty. >> almost like you were doing it for someone else. but now cabaret is for you. >> come see me tonight at the regency. >> isaac ms. ra hi, so nice to have you >> i adore you. >> likewise. thank you. you can catch isaac performing tonight at 8:00 p.m. at the regencyro ba in san francisco. tickets can be purchased at the door or line. that will do it for us. as always, you can find move of

our coverage at. i'mhuy vu. thank you for joining us.

robert: it's done. e mueller repors now in the hands of the attorney general. i'm robert costa. weome to "washington week. the special council has completed its investigation. the big question now, how much will be released to the public? plus, the president picks fights with houseemocrat who is want documents and answers. >> it's time for the congress, house and senate to grow spines and deal what is necessary to protect this democracy. robert: those battles come as he picks another fight attacking the late senator john mccain even as republicans urgeim h to stop. next.