>> narrator: three decades ago, frontline told the story of alv pennia community divided over abortion... >> and this is a life-size, model of a pregnant uterus...ow >> narrator: n we return to examine a conflict that has only escalated... >> we realize, if we're ever going to outlaw abortion that w have to be a help women who feel that's their only alternative. >> narrator: and to hear from the women caught nthe middle. >> because i'm a mother, i'm not supposed to be doing stuff like this right? it's not that simple though.r: >> narrato as the battle continues... sense that, women simply can't make moral decisions on their own.s the state intervene and tell them what to do. >> ...there is a 24 hour waiting period... >> narrator: an intimate look at abortion. the people on both sides... >> this is litelly a life-or-death decision.

and to ask a mother to think about it for 24 hours is very reasonable. >> narrator: and the struggle over complex choices. >> some patients are like, " "i don't want to be oice for me."ut it is the right only they know what they should do. >> narrator: tonight on frontline- "the abortion divide". >> frontline is made possible by contributions r pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support is provided by the john d. and catherine t. macarthufoundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. the ford foundation: working with visionaries on the frontlines of social chang worldwide. additional support is provided by thebrams foundation, committed to excellence in journalism. the park fouation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the john and helen glessner family trust. supporting trustworthy journalism that informs and inspires. the heising-simons foundation.

unlocking knowledge, opportunity, and possibilities. and by the frontline journalism fund, with maj support from jon and jo ann hagler. (bells ringing in distance) >> mark obenhaus: 36ears ago, pennsylvania, making a filmt abouortion for "frontline's" first season.ft it was ten years a roe v. >> tonight, on "frontline," for the first time on american television: the experience of abortion. >> with this vacuum clner-type tube, the baby is literally pulled apart and ripped to pieces. >> this is the story of the

anguish of four women: two who cide to have their babies, and two who choose to come her "the abortion clinic." ♪ >> obenhaus: the film revolved around the reproductive health and counseling center. women who came to the abortion clinic spoke about their decisions. >> can you tell why you chose this option, as opposed to the other ones?at do you know whhey are? >> no. >> you don't know what your other options are? >> well, keeping it, adoption. >> mm-hmm. >> but i know if i went through the nine months, i would have kept it. >> mm-hmm. >> and then it wouldn't have had the life... a good life, because i can'support myself yet. >> mm-hmm. >> and i wouldn't be able to handle bei a single parent on my own. >> our father, who art in heaven... >>benhaus: those in the community who steadfastly opposed abortion and the clinic's existence marched outside.re >> girlsoming here on

saturday morning to have abortions. we pray for their babi and for them, and we also pray for the, for the abortionists. maybe some othem don't realize what they're doing. >> give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those whespass against us, andin lead us not temptation but deliver us from evil. ♪ >> obenhaus: last year, i returned to pennsylvania, once again to a community that isen today ore bitterly divided over abortion than it was 36 years ago. ♪ the confli may be decades-old, but one thing has not changed:me facing unplanned

pregnancies still confront the same urgent and sometimes wrenching decision. (car horn honks) the original clinic from the first film merged with another clinic that now operates out of this unremarkable building in philadelphia. (car horn honks) >> mercy! have a heart! >> obenhaus: there are no signs for the clinic, but there are always protesters on the streets outside. >> excuse me, ma'am? do you know how many babies are killed here? ma'am? (whispers): can i givehis to you? >> you'd like to make an appointment? >> obenhaus: the philadelphiant women's began providing many as 6,000 pregnancies a year are terminated here. >> absolutely nothing to eat, drink, or chew. and do you have any children? >> six. >> six? one, two, three, four... >> nine, ten. >> nine, ten. m hmm. >> obenhaus: dr. rebecca mercier has been an abortion provider for 11 years. >> every kind of woman gets

abortions: um, women who are young, women who are old, women of all races, women of all religions, women who, it's their first pregnancy, women with lotw of children, um, wom never thought that they would be seeking an abortion. we see all of them here. >> obenhaus: the clinic operates five days a week. s e of the days we were there, there were as many as 60 patients. dr. lisa perriera has been an abortion provider since 2003. >> the patients are so thankfule and appreciahat they can with dignity and respect,ated because they're making a choice thats theirs to make. >> do you have any children? >> yes, four. >> four, okay. any stillborns? >> no. >> any miscarriages? >> no. h e you ever had an abortion before? >> mm-hmm, one. >> okay. >> well, this is my choice that i'm doing, because i don't want to bring another child into the

world, and i'm not financially stable. w i'm already strugglih the four that i have. so i'm not sure what my other option would be.'t but if this wan option, then i know i would be stggling. >> dominique... >> i'm just ing to take you upstairs, okay? >> obenhaus: most of the aomen roached to be in the film declined. those who che to speak, like shaharra and taryn, told us they wanted eir stories to be heard. one time with someone that i had been seeing, and i thought, time, you know, i would just get sort of a grace period on that." i had essentially talked myself out of the fact that i was pregnant. in>> have you ever had a v ultrasound? >> i don't think so. >> okay, a little bit of gel,li le bit of pressure, there's a camera on the tip, it gives me a nice, clean looks. inside the ute

>> i already have two small have a six-year-old and a four-year-old from a previous marriage, d i'm recently single. i have a corporate career. and so i decided that the be thing for me to do at this point in my life was going to be toth terminatpregnancy. >> so your ultrasound results, a w a multiple pregnancy, so i saw twins. >> wow. >> okay, i measured one at 5.4, so five weeks and four days. and twin b at 5.6. okay? >> okay. >> all right. so i'm going to do your blood pressure. now, does this change anything y inr decision today? >> no. >> and it doesn't change anything on our end, as well. >> okay. >> so everything stays just the same. >> this is not a position that i ever thought i would be in. my initial thoug was, "i should tell no one about this, right, like, ts should just be, you know, a secret that i,

that i take to my, that i take to my grave, becau it'll change how people you know, see will judge me for this." people (women speaking indistinctly) >> okay. >> and you can set your things down, anhere you like. all right, i'm going to have you y back right where you a and just open your pants for me. >> okay. >> so thgel's going to feel a little cold on your stomach, okay? >> mm-hmm. i'm seeing something that, uh, resembles another sac. twins. >> oh, my god. (exhales)

>> so i'm going to do some... >> what does that mean? so like, like, is e procedure any different? >> no, it's exactly the same, it's no diffent. >> why does it feel so different? d >> ws it feel different? >> my god, yeah. e >> when she said that thre twins, i wasn't prepared for that at all. i didn't even consider the possibility. (sniffles) i don't know.na it's not a ratthing. it felt... it made things a little different. >> it's a hard dision. >> it completely does. you guys, you're six weeks right now, which means you haveme plenty of do you feel like, if you guys for, like, even, like,about it days and made sure that this is what you want to do, like, that

time to think about ite more like, i want you to be certain that this is what you want to do. >> it s, it was a double punch. >> oh, yeah, for sure. >> it was, um... we're not taking this lightly at all. >> i want you guys to be confident, and you can always reschedule and come back on tuesday, if you want. >> i areciate that, and i, i... for, like... our son couldn't do it.on he ihe spectrum, non-specific autism, more leaning towards asperger's. he doesn't like to interact with humans, he doesn't like children. at all. i think that this has a lot to do with noble. a lot to do with my son. >> we've been married for fivee years,ve two children that were very planned, um.

i've... one is four and starting preschool, the other is two, just turned two. and, um, we found ourselves unexpected pregnant. um... you know, motherhood is a huge part of mydentity, and, uh...y it wasn't an ecision to come here today, but it w definite necessary. we just bought a house, we are recoveng financially from that, and this was just not the time, not a good time. >> i grew up catholic, and, um, you know, they, they kind of teach you very young-- and i went to catholic school, too-- like, you know, this...ro "abortion is, shouldn't do l that stuff.a sin," all that, no one's going down to the corner store picking up an abortion like they're picking up a pack of cigarettes. it's not, it's not that easy. ur dress for me.to havto lift

the gel's going to feel cold. little pressure. okay, six weeks and one day, okay? >> (softly): okay. >> i'm going to wipe this off. you can sit up. >> what was that? >> six weeks and one day. (sniffling >> you know, i wanted to look at the screen, but i didn't want to look, and...

i don't know, i feel like being a, a parent already has made it kind of an even more difficult thing and even more reason, you know, for some that i shouldn'to have had thiy or shouldn't talk about it, um... >> why do you think that is? >> because i'm a mother. i'm not suppose to be doing stuff like ts, right? um, you know, "what's one more?", right? it's not that mple, though, um, you know. >> i'm a medical doctor, this is what your baby looks like. i think you ought to at leastit take it and look at while you're sitting there in the waiting room. >> obenhaus: dr. george isajiw is the pennsylvania director of the catholic medical association. i first met dr. isaj on the sidewalk outside the clinic where wehot the first "frontline" film 36 years ago. >> and this is a life-size, real-size model of a pregnant

uterus ten weeks from conception. and as a matter of fact, yound i were once this size and even smaller. so that's the first victim in abortion. my conviction ishat life begins at conception. and every baby, by the time you even recognize that there's a pregnancy, is already an individual, unique human being. that, and then here's where the religion comes in,y who is not oique, but the soul will survive the death. e reason i'm explaining this to you is because... >> obenhaus: dr. isajiw's activism has always been rted in the counseling of young women to reject abortion. when we first met, he was counseling as many as six women a week. >> this is the result of an abortion at about 11 weeks with thisacuum cleaner-type tube. the baby is literally pulled apart and ripped to pieces and killed by that process. >> i don't see how anybody can do that. >> i know that when women find out what abortion really does,

and what it's all about, there are very few who really want to do that to their baby, okay?ve here we t 14 weeks. and now the main difference is, thinbaby is bigger, and the is becoming thicker, so now the baby's no longer as transparent. >> and that's what he looks like now inside me? >> right, that's what he looks like-- or she. what were your feelingwhen you found out that you were pregnant? >> oh, i could have hit the ceiling, really. i just wanted to forget about right, so you obviously were not planning this pregnancy. >> no, it was not planned all. >> sir, are you, are you the father of the baby, sir? if you're the father of the baby, you have a stake in this. i need you to stand ove there without harassing anyone, without bothering anyone. >> wait a minu, harassing is in the eyes of the beholder. i'm not prepared to go to jail. i've been in jail over this, but, but... d >> okayou want to go back to jail? >> i don't think this would stand up in court. >> would you like to go backo jail >> do you think this would stand up in court?

>> would you like to test that theory?f >> was different circumstances, i would. >> obenhaus: in 1986, dr. isajiw felony for trespassingided of a the clinic where the first film was shot. >> at this particular time, i don't have the time to get arrested and spend that time in court. >> our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. ne on earth...me, thy will be >> obenhaus: the first thing you encountewhen entering the clinic is the bulletproof glass separating the public areas from the clinic itself. cent years have seen an increase in intimidation of patients ands, threats against doctike dr. perriera, who was singled out online on a website run by the group operation rescue. >> i'm not afraid of bng threatened by them, but it is framed in reality, there are people that are violent toward abortion providers. yesterday was the anniversary of

the murder of dr. george tiller, who was one of thein idolur community. ile he was an usher on ahurch sunday morning. sure, we think about that.that, that can happen. >> obenhaus: the presence of protesters outside the clinic is a persistent reminder of the threat. >> do you want your baby to die, ma'am? >> they're outside most days that i'm here, they walk up and down the sidewalk, they hold their signs. >> you'll live with this the rest of ur life. >> they yell things at the patients. i've never seen them become violent. but evyone who works in this community should be and is aware of the threat of violence. >> obenhaus: in 1982, when the first film was shot, security was ligh the waiting room was relaxed and felt like a doctor's office. the staff wore street clothes. then, the procedure rooms were spar with a minimum of equipment. (woman speaking on p.a.) h

the clinic tod the look of a hospital. anti-abortion groups in pennsylvania and 23 other states have pressed for the passage of laws that mandate abortion clinics operate as "ambulatory surgical facilities." >> pennsylvania implemented regulations under the ambulatory surgical facilities act that governs everything frothe width of hallways, to wherelo sinks arted, to the hvac systems, to the job descriptions. abortion carproviders have come into compliance with numerous regulations at great f cost, at greancial cost to the women who need abortions,d so it's limited the number of abortion providers in this ste. >> we had to spend over $500,000 on improvements, um, that did nothing to improve the health of our patients. >> obenhaus: anti-abortion activists see this as progress.

>> our most recent bill on abortion facilitie uh, restricted supply. it said if you want to operate an abortion facity, you have to meet certain requirements, the same as any other ambulatory surgical facility. and several of them did not. we went from 22 free-standing abortion facities down to 14. i'll get you all checked in.) >> hello, my name is dr. mercier. pennsylvania requires that we give you the following information before we see you r an abortion procedure. >> obenhaus: like many other states, pennsylvania now reires that doctors read a script to inform women of alternatives to abortion and the potential risks of the procedure. >> infection, heavy bleeding, or clots in the uterus needing removal, problems with future pregnancies, infertility, damage to the cervix, vagina, or uterus, or to other abdominal organs requiring hospitalization or additional surger for abortion, these risks are >> obenhaus: pennsylvania was the first state to mandate the message be delivered 24 hours before a woman's abortion.

>> this is literally afe r-death decision. and we should be doing whatever we can to, to save mothers and children from abortion.th to make womek about it. and we make no apologies for that.re >> ts the sense that women simply can't make moralon decisionheir own. the state has to intervene and, and tell them what to do. i think it's pure hypocrisy. >> okay. now, as far as getting you scheduled, with that information session, there is a 24-hour waiting period. >> we're going to review your medical history, and we can get at appointment all set u >> do you remember the first day of your last normal menstrual... >> obenhaus: the clinic's caer ces open seven days a was a constant flow ofing, there calls to schedule abortions. >> are you looking to do t medical abortion by pill or the surgical procedure? >> a medical abortion procedure is very similar to inducing a miscarriage. um, it is safe for women to do up to about ten weeks of their pregnancy. so do you have any questions

before we get you started here? >> no.at >> a grocedure for women who want to feel like they have control over the procedu, who wants to just have everything happen in the privacy of their owhome. >> obenhaus: the drug mifepristone ru486 was approved by the fda in 2000. >> we'll have you dohe first pill. >> "medical abortions" nowhl account for roa third of all abortions in pennsylvania. >> this the first pill you're going to take. this is the one called the mifepristone. this is the stuff that makes tho pregnancy stopng and start to unattach a little bit from the uterus. it gets the process started. >> okay. >> so you swallow that down like a regular pill. >> okay. >> 24 hours later, she takes another pill called misoprostol that helps to induce theed cramping and the bg that will actually help her body push uterus.gnancy tissue out of her >> this is the misoprostol medicine, gives you a little ptbit of the miscarriage ss. >> okay. >> okay? and do you have your follow-up appointment made? >> i do. >> okay, in a week or two? >> yes. >> okay. that's really important, because... >> what i hope i feel is a senst

of peacenly with myself and in the decision that i've mae, but also a sense of pe with these two beings that i've chosen not to bring into the world. "tdnk you for choosing me, i'm honored to be given this gift of life, and also i, i can't do it right now. i can't accept that mant in terms of the other lives that i'm taking care of and i'm responsible for." >> i think i'm always going toui feel a little bit of, but we have to feel comfortable with the decision we made. >> i know i'll definitely be sad,m, because if things had just been a little bit different, you know, maybe this wouldn't have happened today. but, you know, i'm confident in the decision we made. ortion pill, the mifepristone, i'm going to have you swallow this with a small sip of water. or as much of a sip of water as you want.

okay. so that's the one that startsce the abortion p. >> holy mary, mother of god, pray for us sinners...be >>aus: dr. monique ruberu is an obstetrician-gynecologist whont freq protests on the streets outside the women's center. >> the destruction of any life is a definite affront to god. so when an abortion takes place, and an innocent li that has not done any harm to anybody is destyed, i believe that that is one of the greatest sadnesses of g, but it pleases the devil. i'm an ob-gyn physician, sir. she deserves to have options. i i know she feels box i know you guys feel like you have to do this. we can help her. it used to be that peopleie

to be present on the killing days, the days when the surgical aboions were known to happen in the abortion centers. but ru486 pill has completely chged the landscape of abortion. and it really necessitates that somebody is present outside of these abortion centers everyer single day, hour that they are open. >> sweetie, if you took the abortion pill, we can reverse it. you have 72 hours, honey. they don't want me to talk to you, but this is information that can help you. you deserve to know all of the options, okay? >> obenhaus: dr. ruberu is part of a network odoctors who cite anecdotal evidencorto suppt the controversial practice of prescribing reverse the effects ofu486. >> i think there's only maybe three of us in this philadelphia area that volunteerefor that hotline so far. so they call the hotline, and then you get t, the woman's history, and you don't even have to see her. you call into their pharmacy, and you get them these high

doses of progesterone, which are easily available from the ru486 do awesome, and they don't have any problems following, as far as we know. we can help you. if you took the abtion pill, we can reverse it. and we've been so blessed. in my office ane, we've had three reversals. it's so nice to see at the end of the road, those moms are so grateful and, um, so happy that they chose to reverse. >> and would you like to know how far you are today? >> mm-hmm. >> okay. okay, i'm dating at nine weeks and one day. >> okay. >> i grateful that i'm getti this taken care of. if i wasn't, i would be at home, you know, trying to... stressedo out trying to figu what my next move is or, what my next plan is. so it is, it is a relief, because i was stressed out before i walked the door this

morning. >> good morning. i'm t. liveright, nice to mee you. >> you, too. >> any questions, concerns about anything today? >> no. >> abo three minutes start to finish, okay? >> mm-hmm. >> this is the last part of the consent form the nurse alreadyyo reviewed wit i just need your signature and date here on the top line. >> okay. >> onhaus: shaharra chose to to have a surgical abortion under i.v. sedation. >> you might feel a little warm feeling going through your i.v. site, okay? it's nmal, and it will go away. >> obenhaus: i.v. sedation was not an option for patients at the clinic where the firs film was shot. >> easy does it. just breathe nice and slow. lotsf cramps. >> obenhaus: patients then were awake, and the procedure was uncomfortable, even painfu >> you're drifting off to sleep, okay?ni take som, big, deep breaths. >> obenhaus: most patients opt to have a surgicalrocedure. like shaharra, they want to

leave the clinic with the abortion behind them. >> surgical abortion is incredibly safe. the woman is in stirrups. we do a bimanual exam to feel the positioning of the uterus. i place the speculum, clean off the cervix, and then place a small clip on the toof the cervix to straighten out the uterine canal. t the second part procedure using instruments to gently open the entry into the uterus, and r thoving the pregnancy tissue using suction. (sucng, vacuum whirring) it takes somewhere between two and five minutes.co lications are incredibly rare. (people talking indistinctly) >> one of the most important components of safety with ortion procedures is making sure that all of the pregnancy tissue has been removed from the

uterus. n the tissue is take a special room within the clinic. it is rinsed off and it's looked at in a special dish with a little backlight on it that lets us confirm that we are seeing all theissue that would be expected for the gestational age of the pregnancy. and that lets us know that there weren't y complications. >> obenhaus: the gestational age of this fetus was nine weeks and one day. >> up to nine to ten weeks, it's just a small little piece of translucent sac tissue with nothing that looks recognizable as any kind of fetal parts. after that, you do see, um, arsmall bits of tissue tha recognizable as fetal tissue. >> forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven. ♪ bless us, oh, lord, hear our cry for justice ♪ ♪ bless us, oh, lord, our god d give us this day oly bread... >> obenhaus: dr. isajiw introduced me to pat stanton. pat comes from a family of pro-life activists.

in the 1980s, his late father organized the protests that take place every saturday outside the philadelphia women's center. >> moms, we can help you. change your mind, we're out here. it's barbaric to chop a baby ups put it in a little cr, take it out, and count the pieces.av that's what theyto do. who's doing this? what kind of world have entered into where we do this to our children?ca >> ♪ sometimes ies me to tremble, trembletremble ♪ >> predominantly, the protesters are older white males,nd the w patients are youomen. >> obenhaus: lynne molter hoordinates the volunteers escort women into the clinic. >> i don't understand why der white men think it's appropriate for them to be, um, standing at a clinic where young women come

for health care, be lking to them, interacting with them, sometimes touching them. >> please, don't do this. the baby's heart is already beating.ha >>sometimes happens is, the women will get there and freeze. >> real help. >> and realize what it is that they're walking into. the magnitude and the yelling can be very upsetting to them. mercy! i think it's a spiritual battle, myself. it's between us and satan. uh, and i think when we, uh, do our best to follow our lord and the ten commandments, we will conquer d, and bring others to our side in a loving manner. i thlife, that's death. we're here to help you. >> obenhaus: stanton often tries to speak to the men who accompany women to the clinic. >> pray for strength and pray for wisdom. if there's any chance that this girl can come out of there,t lord, happen, let it be a miracle. let this baby grow up to be a grt man. i ask this in your name, jesus, amen.

>> my girl just said the only way she's walking out of there is ishe says that they're twins, and i'm, like, "what's the difference between one and two?"ha >> yeah,doesn't make any logical sense. >> but, i mean, what the hell, like, i just can't. i don't want to make it seem like i'm controlling her, like... >> christian, sometimes all they need is a word from you.ot theyo feel that the man's behind them 100%. >> how many kids you got? >> nine. >> nine? >> i'd go in there and give it one more shot, and bring a coup of other women out, brother. >> obenhaus: christian did go back into the clinic, but he told us later that his girlfriend went ahead with the abortion. w >> so we know thjust have to stay the course. and we're going to be beaten up and, and have many, uh,ma failures. but we have to continue. so i would say perseverance has been a virtue that's instilled by our faith. you can't be aart-time christian and fight a full-time devil. >> obeaus: the clearest symbol of today's anti-abortion movement is the crisis pregancyr ce there were only a few operating in the early 1980s.

now there arthousands across the country. >> they're very well-connected, and they're very well-funded. their whole existence is to persuade women whoo there not to have abortions. and, um, it, it ranges from gentle persuasion to fairly coercive persuasion. >> obenhaus: there are as many50 asn pennsylvania, many located near abortion clinics. but unlike abortion clinics, they are not required to be e. licensed by the st >> the crisis pregnancy center pro-life movement that offers real help and hope for women in , we realize, if we're ever going to outlaw abortion, thatle we have to be o help women who, who feel that's their only alternative. and we've provided an answer, "no, that's not your only alternive." and it has literally saved thousands of lives every year in the philadelphia area. >> obenhaus: amnion is a crisis pregnancy center that caters to

low-income women. >> the mission of amnion is really to serve, um, anybody in an unplanned pregnancy. if someone is calling to schedule an abortion, i will tell them that we don't perform abortions here, because i want to be truthful with them right up front. um, but i always say to them, "but you've called thepl righe," because i want them to know that right away, that we do have services for them. >> obenhaus: amnion's approach is to offer counseling, parenting classes, clothing, diapers, and pregnancy testing-- all for free.. >> thank y you can have a seat. so have you already tested at home?re to see if you wereant? >> yeah, i did last, um, friday. >> okay, what did you get? i >> owas a negative, but my period is late, so i don't know. >> mm-hmm. we offer pregnancy testing,'t but we drovide contraception here. we don't want people engaging in

behavior that's risky to them emotionally, um, and physically. we want to encourage them to make better choices with their behavior. >> we realize that promiscuity drives abortion, so therefore part of our, our great cause is promoting the chastity message. contraception takes away a natural barrier to promiscuity, and promiscuity is what drives abortion. >> all right, so this paper is just saying you were here today for a pregnancy test, and it was negative, okay? >> mm-hmm. >> so either that means you're a not pregnant, or y pregnant, but it's too early to tell. s now, you woull be pretty early. so if you haven't gotten your period when you come back, we'll retest you. >> andriana, come on back. >> obenhaus: andriana is 22 with an eight-month-old daughter. >> your test is comingp positive, congratulations. tell me how you're feeling about your pregnancy. >> i'm fine.ea >> were you trying to get pregnant? >> no. >> okay. so it wasn'tlanned, but it's okay. >> no, it wasn't pnned.

>> your mom, what does she have to say about it? is she happy for you?as >> she wot happy. >> was not happy, okay. >> we use ultrasound as a tool, uh, for helping our clients, uh, choose life. >> so you're going to be able te look u and see everything we're doing, okay? weet up a big screen up on the wall, so that they can look up and see what's going on inside their uterus and how the baby's growing. >> so we want to see the baby inside your utus. >> (fussing) >> and then we want to measure and see how far along you are, okay? (baby babbling) now, did i do your ultrasound with her? >> yeah. >> she's talkingo us. she says, "that's my brother or sister." okay, have eight weeks, one andriana, this is youryhere. right here, okay? this flickering heres the heart beating. you see that?

>> that beating heart. it's hard to then, you know, deny that there's, um, there's baby. it's not, it's not just tissue there. it's not something that's easily, um, disposed of. >> and i'm going to measure the body length again here. the women who are happy that o they're pregnaon the fence, a lot of times they're just really surprised. you can see it in their face that there is a, a joyful reaction. some women who are maybe considering abortion are, are kind of,m... not thrilled. you know, they might be looking, and it might bring up a lot of complex feelings for them. i have offered to pray with women, and i will do that if iel ike they're open to that. um, and most of the time, they've said yes.ck (cs) i have only had a couple of people who have said no. and here's your pictes. >> thank you.e. >> you're welcom >> that's really where we havety an opportuo form a relationship with a client, to

show them that we care aboutal them othose different levels. "we care about you as a person, as a spiritual person, and as a person with an eternal soul, and we want be able to really show you that you're loved here." >> (fussing) >> obenhaus: the staff at amnion counsels a abortion, based on their christian faith. we met one woman who was unpersuaded and came to the's philadelphia womenter. skye is 23 years old, d this is her first pregnancy. >> and i just need to confirm that you're here for abortion services today, obviously. >> mm-hmm. >> you're confident in yourrm decision to ate your pregnancy? >> mm-hmm. >> no one is forcing you to terminate your pregnancy today? >> nope. pr >> i went to amnionancy center. um, it's in upper darby. >> just brthe normally. >> the services that they provide are free.th nurse did, though, say to me, like, "are you sure you don't want to just, you know, put it up for adoption?" you know what i mean? like, she was kind of, like,

pro-life. (chuckles) k "listen, yw you can come back with your boyfriend. options.alk about different we can do another ultrasound again, and then he can look at the baby, asell, maybe change his mind with that." i'm just, like, "no, no, let me just get this over with. i'll, i'll deal with the depression or sadness later." >> there you go. >> thank you. >> you're welcome, and you can go aad and swallow that. >> i'm going to bepset about it for a little bit. i'm going to pray, probably every single night now. i just felt like i was a horrible person for deciding to actually go through with an abortion, to kill a human being, even though it was only, like, an embryo.so hat was, that was sad, but i got to go back to work. >> obenhaus: skye earns less than $300 a week. like other women we met at the clinic, she ruggles to support herself.

these women no longer can. they are homeless. most collect some form of publi. assistance they areiving at mothers' home in upper darby, pennsylvania. it's ahelter for pregnant women that's housed in what was once a convent. >> hi, how're you doing today? okay, very good. >> obenhaus: it was founded in 1991 by a group led by dr.iw isaj.ro >> being able to pmise them a place to live was an extremely powerful tool. that gave them the courage to choose life. >> obenhaus: mothers' home can house up to 20 women. s they cy while pregnant and for six months after they deliver. >> the common circumstance that brings the majority of our residents here is trauma. there's abuse. olence. a lot of domestic there's drug addiction. um, there's trauma that's just overflowing from childhood,

things that never heal, disconnected families. our goal is to support those women who, in spite of their circumstances, still want to give birth to these babies.om when womenin for the interview, they've already made the decision that they want to keep their baby. they are just looking for a safe place. where are you living? >> um, some guy let me stay at his house, he said i had until today. >> today is your deadline?>> es. >> all right. so do you have any interaction with the father of your child? >> no. >> okay. >> i just want to get my kids home. >> you want to get your kids home. >> my oldest daughter has cerebral palsy. my youngest stays with my aunt in connecticut. >> okay. >> they're able to comhome, i just don't have a home. >> okay. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. (shushing) >> once you have the baby, a lot of people forget about you. she can't raise that baby if

she's not healthy mentally andph ically. so there's no sense in ending it there.on like, yes, evecan say they're pro-life, but you have to, to put that into, like, motion. you have to help the woman aft she has the baby. >> often the criticismis leveled is that we're only interested in the, in the baby in the womb and only helping the woman until the baby left the womb, the baby was, uh,ha delivered, and after uh, uh, we, we weren't interested in helping women. but that is not the case. >> how're you doing, pat? >> obenhaus: beforhe started mothers' home, dr. isajiw and his wife invited young, pregnant women to live in their own home. >> anybody else who'd like coffee? >> obenhaus: this is the scene in 1982. >> we found in the counseling that women were saying, "i don't really want an abortion. but if i don't have an abortion, my husband will, will leave me, or he'll kick me out, or my o parents will kick ." >> i went in to see dr. isajiw tuesday, um, and i talked

to him for, like, and i told him all abouit. like, you know, that everything that was happening. d, like, then he told me about how my... if i, if i were have... if i were to have an abortion, how the abortion would be... (stutters): ...perfoed. it, like, a salt injection would be injected into my stomach, and, like, the by would slowly die inside of me, like, skin would be burning away. so i said, "i'm just going to go ahead with the pregnancy, and,h uh, i'll come live wu, so i can get the proper care and all."ec >> obenhaus: nancyed to put her baby up for adoption. >> because, um, we're not... we feel... i feel, anyway, that we're not ready to have kids yet, because we're not financially sound. i want to be... when i have myan kids, i want to be fally sound. >> then we're going to start planning on having children the proper way. we don't want to bring unwantedh children into world and have them abused like other children

are. weant to grow... we want t raise our children up right. >> not like our parents. we both come from broken homes, and i don't want my kids raised in, had... i don't want to feel that i'm going to have my kids brought up, and me and nancy are going to split up. y.don't want to feel that >> 'cause me and larry, we're not going to split up. we're going to be together forever. i'm so glad i didn get an abortion. i am. >> okay, ready for grace?m. >> mm- bless us, oh lord, for these... >> ...thy gifts which we are about to receive from thy bounty, through christ our lord. amen. >> 38 women over a period of 15 years, high school students and college students. over time,e were getting a different kind of woman. you know, often we were getting, uh, somebody who was addicted. sometimes we wergetting, uh, people who had h.i.v. and other problems, was a little more tension in terms of trying to house them in private homes. and then the whole movent throughout the country to create maternity homes was very

importt. >> hey. (people talking in background) 7 obenhaus: there are now similar homes in the philadelphia area. many were founded by people like dr. isajiw, who pose premarital sex. >> when i was a teenager, if you had sex with a girl, if she got pregnant, you're, you're the father, you're responsiblehe for not onlyaby, but her, for the rest of your life, or you're going to have to marry her. i would think if we still had all the nuns, and we still had the tehing the way it was, we'd have fewer girls needing housing, because they wouldn't be gting pregnant. >> obenhaus: it's not a view shared by the residents we met. what many do share with dr. isajiw is his view on abortion. they reject it. ey've now made over and over again. >> i was just kind of goinge, crazy, lno, i don't want to be pregnant no more, no more babies." but i don't believe in i come from a big fami

i think babies are a blessing. that's why i have all eight of mines. family is.s that's just how my don't none of my family believe in it, like, abortions. >> obenhaus: two of rosie's children live with her sister, five are in foster care. >> i need a big house; i have a lot of kids.ck (chus) >> society has allowed women to mother to multiple children."e so it's very hard to blame her for it when shdoesn't know any better. maybe her mother was that way. uh, the whole neighborhood was that way.ne this is what's hapto our society. >> his name is dominic jayceer. he was premature, like, a high-risk thing.y i have previoud a drug problem. i'm doing way better tn i have. i did good before, but, uh, i've done, i've done wors a shelter may not be the best thing in everybody's mind, but it helped us a lot, so...

i have four, four babies. yep, two girls and two boys. they live in western pennsylvania. my aunt has them. so... so they're good.ey but o call her mommy. so i was offended at first, butk then i understood, they needed a mommy, and i was not proving capable of doing that at the time, so... now we're trying again.ia he's pretty sp and nobody taking this one. (chuling) >> they may not have bee ableto get it right the first te or the second time or the third or the fourth. but this is another chance. >> me and her dad, trinity's dad, we partied a lot together. d we were both sent to prison, um, when i was, like, erght months pregnant with.i

when i got outwas homeless. i was literally homeless. i lived out of my car for, like, a week. >> there we go. aw.im >> (trinity whring) >> i know, it's okay, it's just water. >> she has a rare, um, condition called septo-optic dysplasia. it affects the hormones in her body, and then her optic nerves are also affected. it's an abnormality in her brain. i didn't know for four months i was pregnant. i was still on birth control. and i was drinking, like, i was smoking, like, living, like, the fast life. then lo and behold, there was a little heartbeat. and that's when they told me how far i was. um, i was going to go and... abort her, but i was literally in the chair, about to get it done, and, like, i h to leave. i got up, and i walked out, and

i said, "i cannot kill my baby." so i just accepted that whatever was meant to be would be. so just one day at a time, can happen with her. whatever >> the stigma that society saysb t single mothers who are poor, "they're a drain on the finances of the community, m they've matakes, these children are mistakes, why do we have to take care of them? they should give their childreno er people." they've been even advised toca have an abortion, e there's nothing that they can give to a child. but every single woman that comes through that door, that's their desire, to give their child a better chance at life. ♪ >>ksbenhaus: mothers' home l the resources to follow residents after they leave. the obvious question of what happens to the women and their

children goes unanswered. ♪ >> mercy on their face >> hail mary, full of grace. >> mom, we can help you. (woman talking on p.a.) >> obenhaus: christine and micah made what was for them a very difficult decision >> okay, i love you, thank you. >> obenhaus: they chose to god ahth the abortion. ♪ >> how're you doing today? nervous? >> no, no, i'm not nervous. >> some patients are, like, "i it is the right choice for me."t and it's okay to feel those it's okay. i try to just let them know it is okay. doesn't me they shouldn't do it. only they know what they should do. >> nice, slow, deep breaths, a little oxygen. >> obenhaus: "only they know d what they shou" it's a statement i heard 36 years ago and continue to hear repeated today.

>> i'm almost done with the dilation. >> i respect people that say abortion is wrong, but people have abortions. people have babi. life is complicated. (equipment whirring) >> all right, we're all done. that's it. ♪ dy >> are you ror me? >> i am. >> women are not vessels for just carrying pregnancies. they are full human beings who h deserve e, um, control of their lives, and being able to choose whether you're going to continue with a pregnancy or not is life-changing thing. >> love you.

>> ♪ we are the light of the world ♪ ♪ may our light shine before all ♪ >> obenhaus: but the anti-abortion forces met here in pennsylvania are unmoved by any argument for abortion. they are more organized, more dedicated, and even more uncompromising than they were 36 years ago. they are committed to one goal: ending abortion, no matter how long it takes. >> it's going to be brutal and bloody. and we're only in the second or third und of this fight. this fight is going to be multigenerational, just as the fight against slavery was. and it'll be our successors fight.l eventually win thi i'm not predicting the quick and easy victory, but we, we p will at sont win. >> obenhaus: the end of the battle over abortion, here in pennsylvania and everywher else, seems a long way off.

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