captioning sponsored by wnet >> sreenivasan: on this edition for sunday, may 5: renewed israel-- gaza conflict disrupts hopes for cease-fire. the ebola outbreak in congo continues to taka toll, and in our signature segment joeat jackson cele a milestone anniversary. next on "pbs newshour weekend." >> pbs newshour weekend is made possible by: bernard and irene schwartz. sue and edgar wachenheim iii. seton melvin. the cheryl and philip milstein family. dr. p. roy vagelos and diana t. vagelos. the j.p.b. foundation. rosalind p. walter. barbara hope zuckerberg.

corporate funding is provided by mutual of america-- designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we're your nt company. additional support has been provided by: and by the corporation for public broadcasting, and by contributions to youpbs station from viewers like you.o thank from the tisch wnet studios at lincoln center in new york, hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: good evening and thanks for joining us. palestinian militants in ga launched hundreds of rockets into southern israel-- and israeli defense forces continued to retaliate with airstrikes on the hamas-controlled territory today. e were casualties on both sides in what is now one of thee liest flare ups since the 2014 war between hamas and israel in gaza. helen keenan of itv news has the latest. >> reporter: israel firing back after more than 400 palestinian airstrikes- in what they say

were a provocative act that left an israeli man dead, when rockets hit his he this, the damage caused by those air strikes. six palestinians killed in somem of tt intense flare-ups seen between the two sides in the last year israelprime israeli netanyahu refusing to call his military off. saying hamas is responsible not just for its own attacks, but those of the palestinian islamic jihad, and it is paying a heavy price for that. despita truce being declared just last month, tensions have paw ramped up. lestinians demanding a blockade imposed in gaza be eased and israel refusing, saying it stops weapons reaching militants. there have been international forts to put an end to the violence, with the united nations trying to broker a long- term ceasefire, but the strikes are unrelenting. this morning more rocket fire

rcfrom the gaza strip inteepted over the skies of southern israel. it seems any kind of ceasefire is still be a long way off. >> sreenivasan: in moscow todaye 13 people dieda russian- made sukhoi passenger jet made an emergency landing trailing smoke and flames. p the aeroflne with more than 70 passengers and crew on board had taken off for theno hern city of murmansk when it turned back for unspecified reasons. some russian news reports said a fire was detected on board, but e hers said the hard landing could have caused gines to catch fire. taliban militants stormed police headquarters in northern afghanistan today, killing at least 13 people and wounding dozens more. the attack started with an explosion outside the securi b headquarterslding and was followed by a gun battle. a taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the attack saying that a suicide bomber had used a humvee filled with explosives. the taliban now controls nearly half the country and continues attacks on afghan security forces, despite participating in several rounds of peace talks in

recent months. daesident trump announced in a tweet that mark morgan is the new head of immigration and customs enforcement. moolan was head of border pa in the last six months of the pama administration. morgan says he whed out when president trump took office. he has two decades experience in the f.b.i. morgan has publicly supported president trump's po on immigration in recent months, including efforts to build a bord wall and has appeared o fox tv programs multiple times. voters in thnewly-named country of north macedonia chose a new president today. st-o pendarovski won in a r off for the largely ceremonial office. he supported changing thena country' from macedonia to north macedonia. his opponent did not. the change was made to appease greece, which had long objected to the use of the name macedonia-- also the name of a northern greek region. both candidates agreed tsht the countrld now join the european union and nato.

>> sreenivasan: tomorrow is the deadline for the justice department to turn over thfull mueller report and its underlying documents to the house judiciary committee, but is it a deadline that can be enforced?ll he house hold the attorney general in contempt? and what other investigations may still be going on? for more, "wall street journal" reporter sadie gurman joins us now from washington d.c. >> sreenivasan: thanks for being with us, so right now we arhearing about the possibility or negotiations throughout to testify where are we at with that? think the negotiations are a congressman who is on the panel on the house judiciary committee today saithey were getting closer to that testimony and he even suggested that they e.t a may 15th dat however, the justice department is not commenting on that. the spokespeople for the speci counsel's office are not excellenting on that so it is unclear gave dl has been reached. >> sreenivasan: meanwhile there isn't a firm deadline about that report and right now the department of justice hasn't made any, you know, hasn't giv

any indication they are going to do that. so what happens next? >> right. well, just as, you know, the mocrats have said they are not backing down from their threats, it appears tt the attorney general has no -- has no -- won't back down either. so if both sides are at a stalemate the democrats said they could, that they want to hold the attorney general in contempt and could also tke even more aggressive approach and move to impeach him. both of those things will be somewhat difficult to do, but either way whatever happens the outcome of thil s fight wve a lasting impact on the relationship between the congress and the executive branch. >> sreenivasan: let's talk a little bit about if he is heldt, in contehat happens after that? >> well, what could happen afte that is that se would be present dodd a u.s. attorney's office, which has historically been loathe to charge, you know, an attorney general with contempt charges. this was wha what happened in te obama administtion with eric

holder, but if went before, he was held in contempt, it went before a u.storney 0 who declined to pursue charges so it is not clear that this could actuly be a sucessful effort, but ultimately where this is destined is for thhie courts,s whole fight is a larger sign of resistance there the trump administration to congressional over 0 sight, so this is all in line with that a thinking. >> sreenivasan: speaking of that the tmp administration is basically said, no, either we are not going to comply or went are going to csue and it seems like a tactic to stretch this out longer and longer and perhaps until after next election. >> that could very well e e. and while i think the white house is definitely happy with the way the atrney general is handling this, you know, by refusing to submit to congress mands this is definitely something that the attorney general himself is a huge proponent of sweeping executive power so this is something he is doing on his own and it is right in line with thaest stance. >> sreenivasan: and he has been a proponent of swein executive power for a long time, it is not just something that

she talking about now in this particular circumstance? >> that's right. this is what we saw from him when he was attorney general under george h.w. bush in the 1990s. this is something that he articulated in a 19 page memo that he submitted as a private citizen to the jus department last year, and so this behavior shouldn't really beurprising to a lot of people. he is somebody who justice, just believes that the presidency needs to be protected, that, you know, the executive branch is the president and these demands from congress a an encroachment on that. >> sreenivasan: sadie gurman of the "wall street journal", thank you so much. >> thank you. 0. >> >> reenivasan: english singer/songwriter joe jackson first hit thscene as a new wave rocker in the late '70s, but there's far more to his story than that. he's on tour celebrati a milestone anniversary this year, and he sat down with newshour

weekend's tom casciato to discuss not just his 40 years in the business, but also the twists andurns of youth that put him on the road he's on. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: at a recent joe jackson concert in new jersey, the singer/composer seems amazed he's been at it as long as he has. >> we've got lots of music tonight cause you know, we're now celebrating the release of my first album which is actually 40 years ago. 40 ( bleep ) years ag ♪ is she really going out with him ♪or >> rr: and it's true, his first u.s. top 25 hit goes all the way back to 1979. ♪ is she really going out with him ♪ cause if my eyes don't deceive me ♪ there's something going wrong around here ♪ >> reporter: but what joe jackson calls his musical journey started more than four decades ago. and it didn't begin with rock and roll. ♪ ♪

>> if you're a working-class kid eeom the provinces ye not supposed to like boven. but i did. beethoven was my musical hero >> reporter: in a 1999 memoir, he detailed a childhood in and around portsmouth, a tough naval city on england's southern coast. he has written and sung about it nostalgicallin his song "home town." ♪ back to my ho town cause it's been so long ♪ and i'm wonderi if it's still there ♪ >> reporter: but he has described his childhood as that of an asthmatic misfit, beat up on the playground, his head pushed down toilets. his working class parents, he says, didn't know what to makeim of it was not exactly a beethoven-playing household that you grew up in. >> no. my- my family was completely unmusical. my whole background was completely unmusical. b >> reporte he became obsessed as a kid with all kinds of music-- from pop to rock,

salsa to jazz, and he decided support or not, it was what he wanted to do. ♪ you can't get what you want 'til you know what you want ♪ >> reporter: it sounds like you had to invent a life for yourself, i don't want to sayof ouothing, but out of-- >> it kind of was out of nothing, yeah. o yeah, i'en wondered about that. you know, like, if i-- if my parents had been musicians, for instance, i wondered i it-- it might have been the last thing i wanted to do. wh it was a way to communicate in a way. it was a way to reach other people and hptefully be ac. >> reporter: he played his first piano gig in a local pub at 16. ♪ there's always something there ♪ >> reporter: then was accepted to london's prestigious royal academy of music where he studied classical music, but he finished no closer to a professional career. you also-- if i remember correctly, had some other things

on your resume. you worked in a laundry inl, mental hospis that correct? >> oh, my god. the job waactually sorting out the dirty clothes in-- in the laundry room of a mental hospital. yeah, so, you know, i always figured making music would be better even if it led to-- complete poverty and obscurity, which is wt i expected. >> reporter: but did you have any other choice? was there something else-- w no. >> reporter: --ye good at? >> no. ( laughs ) i wasn't good at anything else. it was-- sheer desperation. >> reporter: desperation turned to success not with classical music, but with his debut album "look sharp" and its frenetic rock 'n roll. ♪ tell me that you never wanted my loving ♪ >> reporter: "i'm the man" came next. in the title song jackson played a sleazy huckster characterli pe whatever was saleable to whomever would buy. ♪ so give me all your money 'cause i know you ♪ think i'm funny m can't you helaughing ♪ can't you see me smile 'sm the man ♪ >> reporter: jacksmage in the press was that of an angry young man, helped along no doubt

"by songs like "mad at yo ♪ i'm so, i'm so i'm so, i'm so ♪ mad at you >> reporter: jackson had words for the press, t. >> well, i got nothing against the press they wouldn't print iu if it wasn't i think that-- there's a lot of humor in it, you know, a lot of things that were interpreted as angry. i once had a drink with joe strummer with the clash. and he-- he-- he told mereow when they riting songs together, him and mick jones, that they were cracking each other up. and-- and then the reviews would come out and they'd read the reviews, which were very serious and in-- interpreted it all as, you know, like, political commentary and all this. and they'd be cracking up even more. ♪ you can read it in the sunday papers ♪ >> reporter: but whether it s funny, sardonic or a bit of both, it gave no hint of where t he was abotake his audience. >> i mean, it was a vacation. you know, it was a little musical vacation. >> reporter: his "vacation" was

an album of swing and jump blues covers written before he was born. ♪ to tuxedo junction, yeah >> r before he changed course again, and scored his biggest hits with an album of ticated pop, 1982's "night and day." ♪ me babe, steppi >> reporter: as if that wasn't enough variety, he'd work motown medleyinto his act the following year. ♪ really i'm sad sadder than sad ♪ >> reporter: in a few short years head gone from obscurity to sensation. but he was a star constantly challenging listeners to follow wherever he led. ♪ the air buzzing with foreign tongues ♪ >> reporter: all that shape-shifting would take a commercial toll, particularly turned his back entirely on rock and pop with a all-instrumentum, 1987's "will power."

when "will power" came out "people magazine" said that you had been authentic wn you were doing "look sharp" and-- and the early records. >> it's amazing. critics get very hung up on, to me, rather dubious ideas of authenticity. they-- they remind me sometimes of food critics arguing about, you know, whether a certain chef should be allowed to do-- use certain ingredients or not. and then they never talk about whether it tastes good. ( laughter ) ♪ call it anything but wasted time ♪ >>eporter: joe jackson was proving that though he wanted to be accepted, it would have to be on his terms. and in mid-career, he made records much longer on artistic ambition than commercial potential: everything from a grammy-winning symphon song cycle inspired by the seven deadly sins to a c.d. of newly arranged duke elngton tunes.

none were hits. in a song from 2008 that he still performs, even wrote about what appeared to be his fading star. ♪ hey, can you hear me now as i fade away ♪ >> reporter: i want to ask you about the song "invisible man." >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: the invisible man, again, is you writing from the point of view of aharacter. someone who had been maybe-- apo star at one time and was now watching younger people be pop stars. >> right. i mean, e most i er really hoped for was to build enough of an audience that i could keep on mang music. >> reporter: that he has done. and on this night in new jersey the sold out crowd of about 1,000 is treated not just to the hits, but to songs as well from his new album, called "fool." ♪ fool, kicks off the carnival

wise man goes to church ♪ fool nd >> reporter:n fact, "fool" is something of a commercial comeback his first album to crack the u.s. top 25 since ose long ago 1980s. ♪ just what he needs to live head like a sieve ♪ >> i've been very pleased at the reactions we've gotten. i mean, even-- songs that people have never heard before... that's the good thing abmit being nvisible, you know? ( laughs ) it's like, i don't have as many people maybe as i would have had in 1983. but the people who are, i think they're there because they're genuinely interested. e ♪ could it be that wh're rushing 'round the world ♪ >> reporter: and do you think in the end, 40 years on, that the reason you still have an audience is that you have followed your muse and not made the same kind of record-- >> yeah. >> reporter: --again and again?

>> it probably doehave something to do with that. and it also has to do with my own just sheer stubborn kind of persistence, and refusing to go away. i don't expect everyone to like everything i do, or anything i do. but-- as long as-- as long as i enjoy it i'm gonna keep doing ♪t. can't touch can't touch the invisible man♪ an't stop can't stop the invisible man ♪ ♪ ♪ >> sreenivasan: for a sampling of joe jackson's records from the mid-1980until now, visit pbs.org/newshour. more than 1,000 people have now died in the most recent outbreat of ebot began last august in the democratic republic of congo. the disease is spreading in part because of violent attacks on

health clinics and suspicions about vaccines. "national geographic" recently published a new article and photographs about the congo outbreak in connection with its upcoming tv series "the hot zone" based on the best-selling book about ebola's first appearance in the u.s. in 1989 at a research facility near washington d.c. i recently spoke with "national geographic" contributing writer nadia drake via skype from charlottesville, virginia about her reporting and the outlook for containing this deadly disease. >> it is only one country that hasn't jumped the border yet but the region that it is occurring in is basically an active conflict zone there ia lot of political turmoil. there are armed militias running around that are attacking the ebola treatment centers and e time a stern is attacked that hurts the response effort so the teams in the area are finding it very, very difficult to follow up with the victims of eboladi viruase to find out who they might have come into contact with to efficitly deploy the vaccine. there is a lot of mistrust among people in

the communities there who don't want outsiders in, basically the decades of civil unrest there making this outbreak persist. >> sreenivasan: so is t a particular region that is got more of the people infcted and are they spreading from that region to other places? is it the cities? is it the rural areas? where is the problem the worst? >> this is in northeast democratic republic of congo and north kibu d in the provinces. and so far, the outbreak seems to be confined to that northwestern area but that is actually a very heavily po llated area there is aot of traffic between city and a lot of refugees moving between cities, and so even though there is a lot of movement within that region, it still hasn't spread beyond there. >> sreenivasan: are people coming in knowing ty have ebola or do you think they have something else? >> so ebola in its searlytages is actually quite difficult to differtiate, it looks a lot like malaria which is endemic in

the region and the only places that you diagnose he go ma right now are in specialized ebola treatment centers and the way they dthat is by actually looking for virus particles int blood and takes a time for 0 those levels to get detectable so if sebody has a fever and shows up in a clinic, this has a ton of healthcare providers from traditional heelers to pharmacists to actually health clinics, so people might be traveling between multiple clinics looking to see what is wrong with them. and ithey have ebola in that process they are going to be spreadg this disea that is contagious. >>reenivasan: so this is either through bodily fluids or through people's eyes and they are touching people out gloves? theyse they don't thin have ebola in the first place? th right, yes. virus needs some kind of mucous membrane or break in the skin to submit it. ebola is a very deadly phasute b it is not the most infectious. it is not extremely easy to transmit. it does require close contact with bodily fluids. >> sreenivasan: so how e

these health agencies, say eactors without borders and others trying towith this, because they obviously don't want to put their a own people in harm a's way a if they are going to set up a clinic and the clinic flick is going to get burned down. . rig doctors without borders actually has had two centers that have been attacked, routinely, and i think based on what i heard, they pulled personnel back from those areas. th>> sreenivasan: so what strategy there? how does the local government or her international health agencies how do they think about this,ing out how to pu you know, how to contain this? >> right now, the governmt the democratic republic of congo has the ministry of health is deploying teams in the region 0 who are working with the world health organization and other ngos who are there to try and set up treatment centers, to run theatment centers, to do contact tracing that allows teams to deploy vaccine. >> sreenivasan: all ht. nadia drake thanks so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> >> this is "pbs newshour

weekend" >> this is "pbs newshour weekend," sunday. >> sreenivasan: federal investigators have recovera the flight dcorder of a chartered government plane that skidded off the runway and into a river in jacksonville, florida boiday night. all 143 people od were safely evacuated with some reported minor injuries. thhtchartered miami air flig was en route to florida's naval air station jacksonville from guantanamo bay in cuba. passengers reported heavy rain and a rocky landing before the plane slid io the saint john's river. the owner of the disqualifiedye winner of sterday's kentucky derby says he may appeal the ruling. >> maximum security wins the kentucky derby! >> sreenivasan: maximucurity crossed the finish line first, but the victory was overturned when stewards ruled the horse interfered with several other horses when he made a sudden move to his right in the final turn. stewards reviewed footage and spoke to jockeys for more than

twenty minutes after the race before declaring the second place finisher-- 65 to one sho"" country house" the winner andmu placing maxisecurity 17th. gae churchill downs stewards have told owner west that he will be allowed tsee the track's footage of the incident on thursday.se maximum rity is the first kentucky derby winner in the race's 145 year history to be disqualified for interference. isthailand's new king made first public appearance after his coronation in a procession rough bangkok's historic quarter today. maha vajiralongkorn-- who had already been serving as king since the death of hisher in 2016-- was carried atop a golden palanquin by thai soldiers dressed in ancient fighting uniforms. the 66-year-old king was formally crowned yesterday during an elaborate set of buddhist and hindu rituals. thailand became a constitutional monarchy in 1932 aft a revolution, but many in thailand still lieve the monarch has divine powers.

>> sreenivasan: join us tomorrow on newshour for a look at the tony-nominated broadway play based on america's favorite novel-- "to kill a mockingbird." that's all for this edion of" pbs newshour weekend." i'm hari sreenivasan. thanks for watching. have a good night. captioning sponsored by wnet upaptioned by media access gt wgbh access.wgbh.org >> pbs newshour weekend is made possible by:ar

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