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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, ll >> nawaz: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. a judy woodruff y. on the newshour tonit: prident trump threatens tariffs on imports from mexico, in an attempt to stop the flow of migrants at the u.s. southern border. then, it's friday. david brooks and jonathan capehart are here to talk abou robert mueller breaking his silence, the controversy around president trump's visit to hapan, and the white house pus to add a citizenship question to the census. plus, some exhibits ke millions of years to put together. an inside look at the national neweum of natural history' fossil hall. >> we're showing how all these different species got together and formed ecosystems the past, that transformed and transformed and transformed through time. and now we're at a point
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station from viewers like you. thank you. >> nawaz: president trump has fired a new salvo in his battle o stop migrants crossing the southern border. he's now calling for a 5% tariff on all goods from mexico, stting june 10, unless the mexican government stems the tide of families and children f comim central america. the president's plan sparked concern today from both immigration activists and business groups. we'll get the details, after the news summary. the watchdog agency for the department of homeland security is warning of "dangerous ovcrowding" at migran detention sites. today's report says federalto insp in el paso, texas found 900 people in facilities designed for a maximum of 125. some were held in standing-room- only condions for days. others reportedly stood on toilets to gain breathing space. the report warns the health and safety of both detainees and border agents are at risk.
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in a new interview, attorney general william barr says he does not thinkenior f.b.i. officials committed treason when they investigated the trump caaign. president trump has repeatedly claimed there was treason. bungbarr disagreed when spea with cbs' jan crawford. >> you don't think that they'vet cod treason? >> not as a legal matter, no. >> but you have concerns about how they conducted the investigation? >> yes, but, you know, sometimep can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good they don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the mocratic system that we have. >> nawaz: barr said he thinks a "small group at the top" of the f.b.i. made biased decisions. missouri's last abortion clinic will remain open, at least for now. the planned parenthood facility in st. louis had facing its license at midnight, but a judge inteened today. that leaves the clinic operating until june 4, when another hearing is seduled. separately, a new state law now
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bans abortion in missouri after the eighth week of pregnancy. a u.s. navy seal charged with war crimes was back in military court in san diego today, after the judge unexpectedly released him from custody. special operations chief edward gallagher is accused of killing an islamic staterisoner in iraq. he says he is the victim of prosutorial misconduct. the case has attracted the attention of president trump, who is considering a pardon for gallagher and others accused of war crimes. historic flooding in the central u.s. has caused new damage. the rain-swollen arkans river breached a levy today about 60 miles northwest of little rock. water rushed through the hole and across a rural area, prompting a flash flood warning and evacuation. farther west, in fort smith, the remained at record levels. >> we have been waiting, too, for the water to recede, so we can get in and make our assessments and begin to see the things that we need to do as a city to restore matters.
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so, patience is going to be the key. >> nawaz: meanwhile, theis missouri andssippi rivers topped levees in parts of missouri. iod, flooding across the r forced amtrak to suspend service today between st. louis and fort worth, texas. the trump administration has lifted a summer-ti sales ban on e-15 gasoline. it contains ethanol, made from corn. the ban was put in place in 2011 because burning e-15 in the summer heat increases but, president trump pledged to end the ban, and the environmental protection agency announced that today. environmenl groups promised to challenge the move in court. and on wall street, presiden trump's threat of tariffs on mexico sent stocks tumbling. the dow jones industrial average lost 354 points to close at 24,815. the nasdaq fell 114 points, and the s&p 500 slipped 36. overall, the indexesad their worst month of the year. the dow and the s&p both lost well over 6%.
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the nasdaq was down nearly 8%. and, the scripps nationalsp ling bee is over, ending, for the first time in the urnament's 94 years, wit eight co-champions. last night, those final splers went through 47 words in five perfect rounds, before all eight were declared winners. >> odylic. o-d-y-l-i-c. >> tt is correct. congratulations, you are l champions of the 2019 scripps national spelling bee. >> they will forever be remembered as the "elite 8." >> nawaz: organizers said theyll ran out of cging words to winnow down the field to a single winner. each of the eight champions will get $50,000 in cash. congratulations all. still to come on the newshour:
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how will mexico respond to president trump's threat of tariffs? a new school offers a new path for former child soldiers in uganda. david brooks and jonathan capehart on robert muelleris breakingilence. and much more. >> nawaz: president trump has lled himself "tariff man." he has said he "likes tariffs," and he's said he likes to use them. but even so, few knew what was coming last night when he issued a surprise threat to mexico, the u.s.'s largest trading partner. yamiche alcindor has the latest, and more on the president's plan has stirred up concern in this country, and in mexico. >> alcindor: immigration policy through trade tariffs. that's president trump's latestt idea t illegal immigration on the southern border with mexico. in a tweet late thursday, he announced that starting on june 10, the u.s. will impose a 5% tariff on all mexican imports.
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he said, "the tariff will gradually increase unt illegal immigration problem is remedied." today, at a news conference,ca mepresident andres manuel lopez obrador responded.ed >> ( transl ): we will not fall for any provocation. we will act prudently.wi we will ac respect for the authorities of the united states, with respect foren presdonald trump. we have to help so migrants do not enter the united states illegally. but we also have to do it respecting human rights. >> alcindor: this comes as the trump administration seeks t crack down on a surge of central american migrants in recent months. according to u.s. customs and border protection, nearly0 110,migrants were apprehended in april, the al sincemonthly tot 2007. and an average of 4,500 people a day have illegally crossed the border or arrived without documents in the past three weeks. u.s. immigration authorities say over 80,000 people are currently in custody. today, white house press secretary sah sanders defended
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the tariff threat. >> the number one duty that the atpresident of the united has, is national security, and to protect americans. the president has been cstal clear that we have to take action. we have to step up, and wee have to do mor secure our borders. >> alcindor: white house officials say the tariffs would start at 5%. ey would then increase to 25% by october if mexico does not decrease border crossings. tariffs would impact all mexican imports, iluding produce and cars. taanwhile, there is bipartisan opposition to the ff plan. senate finance committee chairman chuck grassley said in a statement, "trade policy and border security are separateis es. this is a misuse of presidential tariff authority, and counter to congressional intent." house speaker nancy pelosi criticized t plan. in a statement, the california democrat said president trump was "sowing chaos over the border instead of delivering solutions." er's a concern shared by o like laredo mayor pete saenz.
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he said the proposed tariffs would hurt his border city. >> it's going to be a huge challenge. our position here is that it's not going to help us. ultimately, it will be the consumer who is hurt, who will ultimately feel the true impact of this. >> alcindor: the president's move faces opposition in t business community, too. the u.s. chamber of commerce said today the tariffs wld not solve the border crisis,ey and th would instead, "be paid by american families and businesses." >> nawaz: and yamiche joins me now.st lan this. yamiche, these tariffs, if imposed, would have an undeniable effect on the u.s. economy, on u.s. consumers. what is the administration sang about that? >> the administration is essentially saying americans might have to bear the burden of some of these tiffs, but that it's really mexico's fault and not america's al fault. mika otsuka said why should americans have tpa more for avocados, refrigerators, cars, when it's really ic m issue and an immigration issue?
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his response, the american economy i already being negatively impacted by illegal immigration and, also, americans are also paying the price ofil gal immigration. the important thing to note here, the american government isn' giving mexico clear goal post-s. it's not sayingf immigrations and apprehension dpos down beyond 5% we'll be able to re-think the tariffs, instead they're saying we just want the numbers to go down. but here are specific ways we'll make sure you feel the pain of our astronauts you are not doinu . >> nawaz: you reported there is bipartisan opposition to the plan. wee seen state lawmakers on both sides all day to this. other than the white house or the administration, w supports this? >> the president and the trump administration are on an island of their on on the issue of tariffs. this has been a rare situationer you have republican senators going statement after statement saying they disthree he president's move on this. the republicans have really stuck by the president on issues of healthcare and immigration.
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we saw republicansers? from ohio, iowa, sayingpu you're ing the livelihood of our farmers and car-makers at risk here. the president is sthis is the best thing i can do because my back is against the wall because i see a crisis. 80,000 people in custody, if those numbers actually be out to be true, those numbers are really, really high. >> nawaz: and they are taxing the system in unprecedented ways as you have been reporting. it's worth mentioning the u.s. is in the middle of a negotiating process on a separate matter, what we're tawlg calling the new nafta, what they're calling the u.s. m.c.a., how does this affect that. >> nawaz: the trump administration says these are twoish shoes. how mika otsuka was asked would this impact the trade dal, he said, they're two different things't talk about them at the same time lawmakers ened hill don't site that way.
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ernst said this is a trade issue and we believe it will stifle its ability november through congress. people are saying the trade deal is supposed to replace nafta. the president ran on this. it was a keypa cn promise and that might be slowed down and the president is trying to procedural moves to try to force congress to voteov on without a trade deal in septembe that's a lot to happen. >> nawaz: we'll see what happens next. >> yep. let's take a closer look at what mexico can do, and the potential economic ripples, withba ador john feeley. he served as u.s. envoy to panama from 2016 to 2018. and over his 28-year state c departmeeer, he held n nior posts throughout latin america, includingxico. he is now a political analyst for univision, and joins us tonight from bogota, colombia.
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ambassador feeley, thank you for being with us. i want to ask you, n, obviously this isn't the first time president trump has tried to apply pressure t to mexicoo act to do more. what has mexico been doing, if a anything, ress the stem of migrants that have been going through their coury, and what more can they do before june 10th >> you know, it's a great qution because this is not the first time the president has used sanctions or tariffs. he has said many times that i'm a tariff guy, i'm a sanction guy. the fact is that mexico has actually done quite a lot and has been doing quite a lot. you know, we're at a net zero immigration with mexicans righte now, meaning are more mexicans returning to mexico an there are going to the united states, whether undocumented or documented for just regular cross-bored travel. what they've done is they've actually hardened their border at their southern border with guatemala along the rio, in aar
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r crossing called taptual, and they've crossed tens of thousands of central americans so there is not a lot they can do before june 10. >> nawaz: we have tariffs thaco d be put in place in the next few months. what would be the affect of the tariffs on the u.s. economy and trade between the u.s. and? mexi >> sure, well, on the mexican economy, it's incredibly worrisome, our supply chains, mexico, united states, and canada are incredibly lked. the united states is the number one of destination for0, 8 of mexican exports. as soon as these tariffs go inte t, american importers are going to start to bay 5% up to 25% more by october if the president is not happy with the results. what that means is american importers may now have to make
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the decision, do i stop importing from mexicans? that obviouslyhouse a very negative effect o industry. or do i continue tooirmt from mexican exporters and pass the costs to the ameoncanmer? i think in the short run, i think what will happen is the supply chains are so independent grairktsd whether vehicles, electronic assemblage, the agriculture products that come from mexico, that importers won't be able to do anything to change that, whether or not they pass along the 5% b costy june 10 is a decision at the the american private sector is going to have to make, bu the key point here is it's americans whl ac pay the tariffs, and that's one of the reasons why many of us believe that the president has put himse and his ucmca as you were just speak about so in the middle of a circular firing scwaw and yelled fire. >> nawaz: the president is trying to use the tiffs to
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force an action from mexico. would a 5% to 15% tariff have enough on affect on mexico that would force them to take some additional actions? >> well, let's take a look at this. from my own perspective, if the united state to slow the outflow of central american migrants soming through mexico to the united states, i don't know what it is that makel the presidentve that mexico can miraculously do it. they have stepped it up quite a bit, but obviously not to his satisfaction. you know, take a look at thesp se from president andreas, almost middle easy he drafted a two-page letter and appealed to president trump's higher angels, if you will, gave them almost a sievics lesson saying that statue of liberty shouldn't just be an emptyl. symbo the mexicans really don't have the ability to put up a wall. it's a porous border alongl
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cent america. they have been cooperating andle it's that want the mexican president doesn't want a fight. he dispatched his foreignsh minister to gton and will meet with secretary pompeo next week. i have to be honest, i don't i t know, but i strongly suspectry that secre pompeo and i know his staff were blindsided by this. they had no idea this was coming. so i think the few days i probably -- for secretary pompeo to prepare as much as it is for e foreign minister of mexico to prepare. >> nawaz: i've seenst fnd the impact on the u.s. system from tin fx of families and children that are coming in and the u.s. has been taxed in unprecedented ways, it has not responded to the taxation, and as a result a lot of these families and children are suffering as we heard earlier in the show. we heard from the trump administration that these are desperate times and desperate times call for desperate
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measures. we only have a few seconds left, but iant your response to that. the administration is saying they're doing everything they can to try toem sthe flow of people. whawhat do you say to that? >> i would say why don't you, instead of puttig tariffs on, take the $87 bilon tax these tariffs whether represent to the american consumers if they go into effect, and send down 3,500 instead of 350 immigration judges that way you can process these cases almost middle east. instead of settingp detention facilities, set up extraditionnary port rooms down thre so they can process these. these desperate people from central america are not qualified under asylum law and that's what they're asking for and allowing them to stay. i think there are other better ways to have do t thisn uses apples and oranges, take what is
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a trade mecnism and tool and apply it to a migration issue that is undeniably difficultdy. no denies that humanitarian crisis along the bored, but it is my opiniat the crisis has been aggravated by the manner in which the trump administration has decided to use only c and no sticks. if we got more judges down there, if we expanded th processing, if we were able to use other facilities down along the border to be able to not to hold these people indefinitelyce but to p them expeditiously, i think you would have a much better resolution in the current situazion. >> n sticks and not carrots as well. john feenky, ts for joining us from bogota, colombia. thank you very much for your time. ho >> nawazdo you recover from a brutal war? as uganda struggles to reconcile its violent past, educationli offers aer of hope.
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special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reportsn one effort to teach former child soldiers. it's part of his series, "agents for change." >> reporter: the residents of lamunu, like many communities in this region, are trying to regain their rhythm, to bring back some sense of normalcy, with activities that have long defined community-- like their 35-member dance club. ♪ ♪ for nearly three decades, this region was the epicenter of one en the most savagely violent conflicts in rechistory. the lord's resistance army, or l.r.a., was led by joseph kony, who called himself a spokesperson for god. the l.r.a.'s goal was to overthrow uganda's government, a campaign that displaced close to two million people. as many as 35,000 children were abducted; deployed as servants, sex slaves and soldiers. out of the landscape that still
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looks full of rubble, still ntattered from years of conflict, a monuo the lives of 28 civilians who werema acred here in 2002. 28, out of an estimated 100,000 civilians who lost their lives. >> i can still rember that clearly, the day i was abducted. >> reporter: ricky richard anywar was 14 when he was abducted, alongside his older brother. >> these people rounded up our family members and set them ablaze while we were watching. they closed the door and they set the fire ablaze while they were askinfor mercy. it was the darkest moment in my life.>> eporter: horrific as that sounds, it was far from the most brutal incidents. >> this is one of the saddest
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massacres in northern uganda, where people were cooked in theo >> reporter: cooked in a pot? anywar was among a lucky few who managed to escape, returning to his native town of pader. he then learned that his brother had escaped a year earlier, only to commit suicide soon after doing so. the son of a school teacher,e and two other survivors founded l e friends of orphans sch 1999. >> these are children of people who were killed during the war. these are very bright children. what they lack is the resources to educate them. >> reporter: almost two decades on, about 300 young adults are enrolled; by now, the children of former child soldiers. they've been shunned and stigmatized socially, anywar says, so the first task is to
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provide them a safe space to, just relay soccer, or play an instrument. >> we use our stories to tell these children what happened to us. and with tha they get connected and open to us, anrkd begin g on the journey of their life. >> reporter: then it's on to learning skills that are, at least in theory, in demand in the region: sewing, tailoring, masonry, building. ricky anywar guided us through area towns to a welding shop. >> ( translated ): the electricity is on and off. >> reporter: power cuts are frequent, includg on this day. its seven workers are paid by the piece, so no work means no pay. ♪ ♪ next stop, a mus recording studio. big sound productions was
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started in 2011 by ar student at ricky anywar's school, 30-year-old charles anywar, who is not related. how is business now? >> business now, it is okay, but i need good maches for the work. i have the knowledge for the work, but i don't have good machine. >> reporter: nearby, 1,000dr ch attend this primary school in abysmal conditions, far worse than elsewhere in uganda. anywar's group provides basic supplies for about a hundred of them. >> most of these children, either they have worn-out uniforms or they don't have footwear. we selected those who are extremely needy. >> reporter: just how needy? i asked teacher andrew komakech. how many of these children have breakfast? >> none, none of the children. ch>> reporter: how about l >> no, there's no lunch for children. >> reporter: do you think they're learning much? >> i don't think so, because
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when you are hungry you cannot even study. >> reporter: one of the paradoxes about trying to bolster education in this area is that the best and brightest are more than likely to lea for the cities like kampala. the friends of orphans organization says over the years, it has about 100 youth who've gone on to earn college degrees. of those, only one has returned to the community. his name is ronald okello. he was abducteby the l.r.a. at age 11, about 2001. four years later, he lost his right arm in a gun battle, was captured by the ugandan miliry, taken to a hospital and released. ricky anywar found him by chance, wandering on the street as he drove by. >> i had to st, and i reversed back, asked him who he is, and he said he's ronal >> he took me to kampala, very good school in kpala. >> reporter: and then did you also go to college? >> yeah.
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>> reporter: he scrapes by, he says, buying used shoes and household items in kampala, and reselling them in local markets like this one. even for a degree-holder, the prospects here are blein a >> most of the international donors do not want to fund ojects in this area because they feel the war is now over. the international media's attention always goes to where there are fresh wars around the rld. >> reporter: some aid has slowly trickled in, like roads and power. it's hardly enough. and there's ev less for social or reconciliation programs. back in lamunu, where ricky anywar's group has provided some assistance before, the communitd tuut to plead with him for more help: a borewell for water, farm animals, proper clothing for the traditional dance group. >> we kindly request your support. reporter: for the pbs
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newshour, this is fred de sam lazaro, reporting from pader, northern uganda. >> nawaz: fred's reporting is in partnership with the under-told stories project at the university of st. thomas in minnesota. >> nawaz: stay with us. coming up on the newshour: old bones get new digs. an inside look at thene smithsonian's wly renovated fossil hall. plus, words of wisdom for the graduates in the class of 2019. robert mueller breaks his silence. john mccain's name is hidden from the presint and left-behind hard drives reveal a republican push to change the census. it was a big week. thankfully, we have the analysis of brooks and capehart. that's "new york times"
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columnist david brooks, and "washington post" opinion writer jonathan capehart. welcome to you both. david, robert mueller broke his silence, we have finally heard from hk . i want to u, though, because the conversation about impeachment continued on the democratic side. nbc's been updating their list of how many democrats, how manyt members house are supporting an inpeople. inquiry. 53 last time i checked. last week you said speakerig pelosi was to slow walk the prosessmentsz do you still believe tt based on what we've heard? >> a whole week later i still believe that because have a reasonably attractive presidential field and if they spentheir entire early election season fighting for impeachment, it will detract from that and give what donald trump wants fighting congress. republican support for donald trump is now at a tie and the more they go to impeachment, the more solid that's where that will be. so there's no wa get republican votes in the senate. so you can have the impeachment hearings and they would be a good idea to have the rule of
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law but it won't go anywhere. >> nawaz: a couple of quick sound bieth, key moments from robert anmuelleattorney general barr that we heard. >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly did no commita crime, we would have said so. we did not, however, they can a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime. >> we could have reached a conclusion. opinion says you can't indict a president while he's n office, he could have reached a decision as to whether it was criminal activity. >> nawaz: jonathan, you wrote in your column this week mueer made life more difficult for trump and democrats. why? >> more difficult for president trump because if, say, special counsel mueller does go to the hill and does testify and only says what's in the report, just that quote that you had there from the specil counsel mueller alone is damaging and if he reads wt is furth down in the report, page 2 of volume 2
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of the mural report, if you have it at home, it goes on to say that, you know, we have a lot of stuff here, but because of the olc memo, we didn't even broach hee subject of whether president committed a crime. we're not even going to go thers be if we charge him, and c yet 't bring him to trial, we can't indict a sitting president, well, it's unfair to the president because you charge him with a crime, but then he doesn't have an avenue of venue to defend himself and clear his claim, so that's why the olc memo says yout can't endiem while he's a sitting president but you can do it once out ofse office bece has the possibility to defend himself. >> nawaz: speaker pelosi said she wants an iron-clade case bere moving forward is hat an unreasonable goal? >> i don't think it's mreasonable and i think with david on this, most people
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have not read the mueller report and won't read the eller report. in order for them to know what's in it, the democrats whether through th committee process or through the beginning of an peachmenwi inquiry, thel have to learn it by having witnesses come up and testify, having special counsel mueller come up and testify and, again, if he only reads whas in the report, it will be news to the american people, and the american people have to be brought along in this process to so that they're not blindsided and think that congress is just doingomething to hammer at the president, instead of, to david's point, standing up for the rule of law inhis country. >> nawaz: david, do you think hearing from mural and barr this weekgechanything? >> maybe it did in that, as jonathan said, a lot of peopl have erroneous views of what's in the report and a lot of republicans do, too.f i'm reminded the phrase i can tell it to you but i can't listenor you. we can tell you what's in the
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report but not all of america watches "newshour" or sre newspapers. >> nawaz: shocking to me. so when he gets on tv and actually gives a voice, it reaches a broader audience. whether any minds will be changed if they go through the process as jonathan describes, it will go against the past couple of years of political history where no minds were changed by a nthing. az: president trump was overseas. there was a report, navciy ofs confirmed, that the white house actually requested military officials keep hidden the u.s.s. mccai while trump was there visiting troops in the japanese port. the president said he didn't know anything about it but heel said it was meaning if someone put forward the request that there's a picturef mccain and president trump visiting with the troops. david, there a concerns voiced by a lot of people about the i it politicizn of thtary. do you see those concerns? >> if i wou trigger donald trump if heawohn mccain on
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the back, i believe it says something about the white house culture. i believe donald trump didn't know. it shows how the staffers behave. the white house staffers are in love with the president and they react and want to get his love. but here it's fear. it's i don't wanto do anything that will upset this volatile man at the top, so sometaffer said, i don't want to create a negative, so we'll sweep the mccain tng out to hav to have -- out of the way, south af descriptionhe white house orlture driven by his tweets and angry reactions than the desire to serve anything positive. >> nawaz: you think they're reacting preemptively. >> yeah, i don't want to get on the bad side of the boss. >> nawaz: what did you think about that, jonathan? >> i thought it was small, petty, shameful and utterly predictable. what we have here is a well -- the president in his own words saidor whoever did this was well meaning, and what you have here is an administration and a
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president who is triggered by a war hero, a former prisoner of war, the 2008 nominee of the republican party for president, an elder statesman, up until his dying day, and even after his ssing, the president still cannot resist taking a dig at senator mccain, whether he knew about the covering upf the name on the ship is beside the point, but he was asked the question before getting on marine one, even then he couldn't resist hammering the late senator mccain for casting the deciding vote that maintained obamacare. this speaks to culture of the white house but speaks to a larger issue about the man sitting in the oval office. >> nawaz: david, it's worth mentioning that used to be cred space, right? you wouldn't impugn the memory of aormer senator, former p.o.w., yet as jonathan
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mentioned, he said i'm not a of mccain, he killed healthcare for republicans when asout this, is that sacred space now gone? >> we've had a lot of sacred spaces, little small island of sacredty, if that's a word. mccain auld got under his skin, we can imagine the reasons, the manliness, and trump has machismo, and john mccain was definitely a macho man and a genuine macho man, had lived it out in pursuit of honor. so it would be natural that he would get under trump's skin. >>awaz: i want to ask you guys about another story that caught attention this week. we don't often get to talk about the census here. a man named thomas hoffler passed away last summer. his daughter discovered hard drives he left behind that show he played key role whether or
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not to add a question about citizenship to the census. this man was considered an architect at gerrymandering, very good drawing district lines to the rtaublicans adv. when you heard that story, jonathan, what did you think? >> you know, when it comes to this particular story, it's one of those things where, especially if you're a person of color, it's w ke we kis is happening but we don't have thed ce, or you will hear the errant comment from a legislatur like the one in pennsylvania a few years back. you will say we've doneohis s we can deliver pennsylvania to mitt romney, 2012, republican presidential nominee, but what wase on t hard drives, it's in writing, like we canee with our own eyes or at least the lateneshoffler's daughter saw wr own eyes, what her father planned and what in his mind
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went into a justice department legal briefing and, now, the supreme court is going to make some sort of decision on these very questions. >> nawaz: there was some specific language i want tout pointor someone not following the details, basically toffler said if we want to draw the lines ork to republicans advantage, we want to draw them around voting age citizens. we have to have the census t get the data to redraw the lines. there's a straight line there. did that surprise you? >> not really. we just didn'tit was there. if you have an estranged daughter, delete your hard drive because she released them. st the second thing i the gradual erosion between two sets of institutions in our public life. sometimes some things are thine s we fight over the issues, but some things are just the rules of the game that make it fair. so it's like in baseba, we hit doubles or he hit singles, buttr
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not to move the strike zone from batter to batter and what's happened is at distinction has been erased and the rules that make it fair are now fair game for ustomanipulatetohelpur own side and that's happened in the senatedrawing the lines. what's striking is the shamelessness of it. there are's always a level of ndme people crash through all moral standardshatever we can get away with is what we get away with, and there's sort of a boyish delight in that, the thought i'm doing something wrong here didn't even seem to be in the parts of the reporting i read about those pers. >> we don't get to talk about the census. it only comes around every ten years. but to remind people of what's at stake and why the question matters, fi in the context for us, why is this so important? >> it boils down to resources.
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by knowing how many people are in the country, there are people at the federal level, the state level and the local level who turn to census data to determine how many people live in my community, in my district, in my jurisdiction, and how muc money will i need, how many people will i need to help or defend. so t fact they're trying to narrow who gets to partake in the census or not narrow because it's n nrowing who par takes in the census, but by putting a citizenship question on the census, the impact might be teoo scare awaye from participating which will then skew the results. you can hav say, you know, a town of 100,000 people, but if you put the citizenship question on ts,he cenou could scare away maybe a quarter of those people, and that skews th visibility of legislators, of public officials, to helping
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their community. >> nawaz: less than a minute left, whoever thought the census could be a controversial political matter? >> the terms are wherehe dollars go. it's always c it doesn't seem like a ridiculous question in the abstract, we ask that question g when to leave the country, but the fact that the question has never been asked on the census seems to be pretty persuasive that they don't need to d it, and just switching that could jar the results from all the census data we've had over the last x number of years. >> nawaz: a case to watch. david brooks, jonathan capehart, thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. n az: they may have left this earth millions of years ago, but they still inspire wonder. and now, the dinosaur bones at the smithsonian museum ofha natural histor some new digs.
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the fossil hall was a multi- million dollar renovation that took four year it's now complete, with more than 700 specimens, multimediae and interactsplays, set to open in a week. william brangham got a sneak peek, and he is here now with an inside look at the dinosaur's new home. >> brangham: after a 66 million year wait, this seven-ton tyrannosaurus rex may finally have gotten her prey: taking down a seven-ton triceratops. discovered in montana in 1988, this is one of the world's most mplete t-rex fossils, and it's the centerpiece of the new david h. koch hall of fossils at the asithsonian's national museum of natural history inngton d.c. it's jusone of more than 700 artifacts on display in the newly-completed hall, set to open next week after a four year, $125 million renovation. but the exhibition is about much more than fossils. the exhibit is called "deep
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time," which is how scientists eascribe the 3.7 billion yr story of life on earth. describing previous masss extinctid changes to the climate, showing ancient animals and their habitats, along with present-day environmental issues, the exhibit tries to drive home the connections betweeour ecosystems and life's evolution, and how lessons from the past might help guide a sustainable future. siobhan starrs developed "deep time," and is its project manager.e ys dinosaurs are just the start. >> this story abt how, literally, our footprint today is written into the stories of the past. so, as you journey back into deep time, you can see the same types of things happening on the planet that we see happening today, written in the rock,it ten in the fossils. and it's a great way to start unpacking and opening that book. >> brangham: this is the first
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major renovation of the famous fossil hall since its opening in 1911.of onhe most important updates was to the hall's architecture and engineering. starrs says the original designers didn'tonsider th extreme weight of dinosaur bones. most people think of fossils as dried bones, and those are quite light, but i take it, that's not the case. >> no fossils are actually rock. that's the process of fossilization.ic all of the orgatter in the bone is replaced by rock, so, they're actually quite heavy. >> brangham: to help accommodate the weight of the fossils, special metal brackets were designed to support each individual bone. they fit together like a puzzle, and it makes each bone easily removable, so pieces can be accessible to researchers without dismantling the whole skeleton. in other paleontology halls, fossils often are supported from wing in the ceiling, but t maintain and emphasize the hall's original architecture, they anchored all the fossils to
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a new steel frame that stretche beneath oor. >> brangham: pauline dolovich is the lead architect for the gdesign. >> it's a beautifurious space. and we didn't want to take, kind of that beautifucenter, and so we found a way to tell this story through this chronological sweep, and then also allow liople to flow and kind of live underneath the st. >> brangham: all of the support structures and exhibit materials are macustom, state-of- the-art fire-safe material. it's to ensure these priceless relics would survive the kinds of fires that consumedotre dame and brazil's national museum. the museum was also careful to design the new hall with what's called universal accessibility. >> we're designing for literally evy visitor who walks in t door, and every visitor is unique. thand they're bringing wit their unique understandings of unique waysnd their of navigating a museum. >> brangham: for example, here, you're encouraged to touch fossils.
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literally laying your has on million-year-old specimens. there's a mobile app available for visitors that may be visually impaired. even games in the "deep time" exhibit have this inclusivity focus. this one traces the ancient origins of our modern bodies, and has a gender-neutral main character. this inclusivity is also visibll in the pwho helped bring the hall to life. back in 1911, not a single woman was on the design team. today, more than 50 women helpee researchlop and create the exhibition. all ofhe project's team leaders, and all the writers, are women. the museum says there are more i women involvedn "deep time" than any other exhibit in the institution's history. paleo-ecologist y behrensmeyer is the head of the fossil lab at the natural history museum. she says having so many women working on an exhibit like this is important-- not just for her
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field, but for science more broadly. >> it's very important for there to be opportunities for all the young women, like myself a long time ago, who are interested in science and want to pursue it, to have the way open to them as muchs possible. and they need mentors, they need people to support them. >> brangham: another way the ner hall is dit? "deep time" doesn't shy away from addressing climate change and the looming global extinction of ant and animal species. nor does it shy away from acknowledging the role humans play in driving those crises. like in this mock coal mine, where visitors can learn about why coal is called a "fossil fuel," and how burning it is warming the planet.
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>> humans are inharge of the tture, and finding the balance with the processt have come before. that's an incredible journey. >> brangham: ithe past, critics have blasted museums, including the smithsonian, for accepting money from the koch brothers, a duo who made their fortune from fossil fuels and then funded groups that try to deny cmate science. whether or not the museum's focus will assuage those critics remains to be seen. the museum told the newshour that donors have no input whsoever in the content of exhibits. the team behind "deep time" hopes that hing a greater understanding of the deep past will help visitors understand the role they play in determining the earth's fu.tu the david h. koch hall of sfossils, "deep time," op saturday, june 8. for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham, in washington, d.c. >> nawaz: now to our "newshour shares." it's graduation season-- the time of year when politicians,st
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ar and other leaders impart sage advice, and some humor, to freshly-mied college graduates. here are some highlights. >> i'd like to start here today by addressing the parents of the class of 2019. ( cheers and applae ) and to you, i would like to say, i hear you. don't worry, i've already had the t-shirts made up." my kid just graduated from brown, and all iot was the dude from 'the office?'" >> everyone you'll ever meet,in knows someyou don't. everyone. cooks know how to use copper bowls to contr egg proteins, and that's cool. respect that knowledge and learn from others. it will bring out the best in them, and it will bring out the best in you. >> today, you take the controls. you're going to push it up and chart your course across the sky. keep the wings level and true, because your count is sending you on a vital mission.
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>> there is no moment when you're just supposed to be happy. while you wait for those moments, while you wait for the perfect job, the mcat score, the engagement ring-- your life is happening. and isn't it enough? happiness is your wn responsibility, so attack it.er >> sour ship into the choppy seas. look for the rough spots, the problems that seem too big, the complexities that otr people are content to work around. it's in ose places that you will find your purpose. >> life is going to give you a bad turn. it's a test. it's just a test. and look at all the tests youss just to get here, right? >> when you listen as fiercely as you want to be hehen you respect the idea that you are sharing the earth ther humans, and when you lead with your nice foot forward, you'll
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win, every time. >> you are living witnesses to one of the most important lessons in life. it is not whether you get knocked down, it's whether you get back up and ep going. ( cheers and applause ) >> maybe someone will tell you-- like seone told me-- that you're not confident enough to be a reporter. maybe someone will call your hair "wacky," like someone told me in a newsroom. hoybe someone will question your career choices, orou choose to love or where you .hoose to live but i say, press forward. >> lean alkethe way in. hances. fail big and take chances again. and remember, before you do something special, just do something. >> you will volunteer. you will vote. you will shout out.el you will you will lend a hand. you will offer your talent and your kindness hover you can, and you will radically transform
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whatever moment you're in, which leads to bigger moments. >> and most important of all, whatever it takes, never, ever forget to call yr mother. and i do mean call, don't text. a text doesn't count! >> i place my faith in the highest possle intentions in all things these days. in raising my kid, in choosing my projects, in recording music, in making speeches tha bi suspect wiforgotten. i hope you will do the same.wo we have so muc to do, class of 2019. thank you so mh. ( applause ) >> n want to bring to you now.
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