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otska, kizer permanenta. koo and patricia yuen through the yuen foundation. the corporation for public broadcasti and by contributions to your pbs strsion from viewe like you. thank you. once again, from washington, moderator robert costa. robert: asss migrants mount at the u.s.-mexico border, t presidenmp is pressing ahead with his planned 5% tariff on all mexican imp on monday.g talks continued on friday ettween the two nations and the president in a t from air force one wrote that there is good chance of a deal." but trump administration officials cautioned that the tice could still issue late friday and formally begin the tariff process. joining me, mark landler, white house correspondent for "the new

york times." vivian salama, white house reporteror the "wall street journal." anna palmer, senior washington correspondent forit po and co-author of "the hill to die on," and joshua green, national correspondent for bloomberg business week. vivian, where do these talks and? will mexican president lopez obrador buckle and cut aeal? vivian: it certainly seems like they're willing to comebl to th to discuss. nhey're eager to avoid tariffs but we've b waiting on pins and needles waiting for president trump to get back in th country. he's been out of the country the entire week where all of this has been unfolding. meetings at the state department. they seem to be breaking ground grow -- ground on a number of the imgrags issues the trump administration is demanding.th stay at home third country policy and two others.

the meabs came to the country wanting to put troops on their southern border and other concessions but president trump said it wasn't enough. robert: how many troops would b on the southern border for mexico? vivian: that's a part of the h discussion ask haven't even determined that much. it's not something the trump administration has been so focused on as much as it is securing the u.s. southern border but a lot of the advisors,eo includinge who were in the room with the mexicans this week say timately it doesn't matter because president trump is going to come back a ask make decision. even though he has made progress, he still says those tariffs are goi into effect on monday as he said. robert: the metcs don't seem clear. what's the president's strategy? mark: the perspective lutchts tariffs. they're his prefered weapon. he's used them, in his view,

quite successfully with china. he's used steel and aluminum tariffs around the world. he's in a bilateral trade negotiation with japan tha would argue that in a way the door was opened by tariffs. th is the weapon h has, it's a unilateral wpon. doesn't depend on congressional support although worth notg in this case, congress might well veethetoo and then override him. as vifpble has said, he's called tariff man for a reason. he thinks it work. he makes this incredible arguments that american consumers don't pay for it. that's an argument most american economists knock down. he figures it's worked for him in the past and has one more chance to show that with mexico. robert: he may like using

tariffs as a political tool. is he also under pressure from his base? >> i think he he is. the thing that got him elected was that he uld build a border and stop the inflow of migrant that very much hasn't happen. the mike rant border surge is six times more than it was a year or so ago. tariffs is a well trump thinks he can use to force concessions from the mexican government. at least indications we've gottenthoday i mexicans realize there's some real pain here for themru if goals ahead with these tariffs. robert: what would it meanwhile for the mea >> beginning on monday, it would be 5% tariffs, which would certainly spook the stock arket, causing a fall and then they would go up in increments 5%, hitting aom level of 25% by october. that could be enough to send th

mexican economy into recession, it could mess up the u.s. supply chain. it could slow down here. there e all sorts of dire economical andld i w argue political effects but right now he's got the upperan robert: many rublicans on capitol hill, even trump allies are speaking out against the proposed tariffs. >> many joc in texas depend on trade, particularly with mexico. thiss the wrong solutioo the crisis. >> tariffs, on the other hand, would be a massive tax. robert: others say the president's tariffs are necessary. >> one more tool to be able to control the flo of illegal immigrants coming across our southern border. robert: according to federal data, more than 144,000 migrants, many of themrom central america, were taken into custody in may. u.s. customs and boarder protections said it was the highest monthly figure in more than a decade. democrats have sharply

criticized the president's response. >> this is dangerous territory. it's not a way to deal with immigration. it's not a way to meet the humanitarian nds at the border. robert: flals the sne, anna in congress but will republicans actually try to block the president? anna: i think it's a real responsibility. mark meadows t who wasre defending the president is really an outlier. you need to t focus on senate, mitch mcconnell and others say thage don't want to do go into effect and this could be the first time the republicans issued a veto of the president. that was -- that happened be a stung rebuke. robert: are the officials just complaining or actually talking about moving? anna: it feels different. sometimes the republicans try to tap the president a little bit and say, hey, don't go that far

but this feels like there's a coalescing really of a majority of the majority of republicans and when there's that, that's a dangerous, i think, formula for the president because all of a sudden you have rep wlicans sayire going to take him on and this is an issue i think they feel they're right only and it's not just politics, they can go back to their states and say e president is wrong o in this. robert: what does this mean for theer newon of nafta? vivian: absolutely. the new u.s. secretary was very much againstth imposine tariffs against mexico.el he it could gem dies efforts to get the new thata through congress, which has already been a concern. the vice president was in canada the same day that the president made this announcement of tariffs on mexico,it talking justin trudeau, prime minister of canada to see how they could get it through their parliament

and the mexicans doing the same th same day. everyone trying to juggle the politicals eleme to get it through their own congress andl sudd this happens. a lot of people feel it doesn't reflect good will. to anna's point, rember, all this is coming on the heels of the china tariffs and escalating dispute with china. a lot of senators are already t concernet folks in their state, especially farmers and others this the -- in the agriculture sector are suffering. the trump admintration has ready offered a form of bailout for the farmers hurting from the tariffs and now you have the chinese threatening to go after certain reinstates and the agriculture sectorif spally. it could make a bad situation worst - works. robert: you also have the jmb s on friday. 75,000 up into the payroll, lower than expectations.

does the white house have any chance of delaying the tariffs on monday? >> the president h woue appeared to lock himself in this terms of when he's going to start with this. you mentioned the job numbers. i think that's there's another fairly arcain thing that has started happening, called an inversion on the yield on bonds. andor that's int balls seven of the last 10 times this has happened it's been a pretty accurate protector of the economy going into recession. time ad been for a long the feeling that the economy was going to continue to grow at a fairly healthy rate well into 2020. w you're beginning to hear people say maybe not. maybe there will be at least slowdown so if you're the white house and president trump, you haveou to weigh strategy and your belief that tariffs allow you to make advances against tht possib that you go into your election campaign with ash ply slowing economy.

>> one other factor. today the stock marketre s in the wake of this bad jobs reporn becaushe somewhat perers have logic of market traders,d ws was good news because it increased the likelihood that e federal reserve will cut interest rates this year, essential little putting a safety net in terms of wt ump is doing with the trade war, which would be read as giving him leeway to pursue these tiffs. robert: how will they affect consumerscrs america? joshua: every one i've talked to said it will raise prices and it could raise car prices by $1,300 per car. >> in terms ofpending and retailers, there are a lot of fwooleds that go backor and between the u.s.-mexican border. you'll have a lot of peopleho are trump supporters all of a sudden thinking what's this president going and -- doing?

>> we talked about the hit that farmers had taken in some of the midwestern states. if the all the industry gets hit yo are looki the upper midwest, michigan, pennsylvania, and ohio that most analysts believe are going to be the critical states in 2020, whe trump is already struggling politically.we robert saw speaker plotiony talk about the border. more than 19,000 mignts in custody right now, off in cells that are packed and dirty. many children arriving without a parent and the trump administration is canceling recreation program legal aid for minors. is there anything to address those real issues at the arder? >> thi is the struggle that the trump administration continues with. one of the issues that led him to declare a national emergency late last year and the border wall funding is still an issue

that continues to be very contentious between congress and the president and i general, you have an acting d.h.s. secretary so nothing is institutionized there with him stncltain with the future of his role. you have a new isles director and so there's a lot of moving parts and the general con sen us that d.h.s. gradually was losg control because of the white house's decisions over border security. thane's a lot o cents communication situation there that the d.h.s. and the white house are fallingehindn on getting that together. robert: we knowid that prt trump is feeling reaction from this program. what is the democtic hope, the

plan? vivian: this president needs to lean on this. this is going to be an frustration plan. the big question to me is what happens with federal fudged, as .u s they're nowhere on the border wall. there's nowhere on any kind of a-panel adding relief to this. no talk of that right now at all on capitol hill. in -- if anything, the president is tweeting in the air against nancy pelosi on air force one and demrats are more unilaterally opposed to him as i've ever seen. es robert: the ent returned from a weeklong trip towhurope e he marked the 70th anniversary of day witther world leaders. president trump: the blood that lley s, the tears that they shed, the lives that they gave,he sacrifice that they made did not just win a battle. it did not just win a war.

those who fought hereon a future for our nation. robert: he also toasted the queen in london and talked trade with outgoing british prime minister treesa may. there were controver. in an interview with fox news, he called robert mueller a fool and spker blows pelosi a disaster. president trump: i think she's a disgrace. i actually don't think she's a p talentedson. i tried to be nice to her because i would have liked to have gotten some deals de. she's incapable of doing deals. she's a nasty, vin tick active. -- vin dickive, horrible person. robert: mark, when you listened to that speech in normandy, what was your takeaway? mark: this is a sort of a location, a locale that american

presidents have often divered some of their most memorable speeches. aesident reagan in 1984. so this is very hallowed round and the president gave a speech i think his aids -- aveleds hoped would be presidential. rather than talk about the alliances w ofld war ii, he talked about soverpblgty. rather than the sacrifices all the allies mader, toget he talked about american soldiers. he was standing in the arican cemetery but what you heard was no particular reference to the great institution that is came out of world war ii and the reason is that president trump has largely been a enemy of those institutions. he's ridiculed nato, he's attempted to sabotage the european yine union. on this day it fell to the

french president to actuallynd t up talk about the legacy the united states had left europe in the wakef world war ii so that was one very noticeable thing about his time there. robert:osh, you've written a bannon.ut steve the president met with the brexit party leader in normandy. are you sing a president who's underscoring his nationalism or something different? >> very much so bannon is long gone from a position of influence in the trumpho white e, yet his ideas seem to ver.nate more than the trump administration funekas sn trade and immigration, precisely the thi that bannon encouraged him to run on. listening trump's speech yesterday, listening to the way he spoke aboutt bre and the u.k., trump seems to be the same guy he's been allas along and keyed on the same issues. i don't think that's going to

change.: robeonstant fights with president pelosi. the president was even criticized for appearing in front of the graves at -- graves at normandy and talking about political enemies. >> and nancy pelosi respond in time. she's basically trying to be the bigger person, saying that's not what we do on foreig soil but you can't underscore him tacking her is for her base and getting her caucus behind her. there's been aot of friction in the democratic caucus about whether to impeach the president. evertime he goes after her all he does is unify democrats and she becomes stronger and stronger. robert: when you think about the president's fighting with a ndon mayor. he's being compare to a fascist. there's sar khaosai, the prime

minister, he's cozy with theresa may. >> coziness with thesa may wh she's one foot out the door. the friction with the mayor of london goes back a couple ofth years wit president because he's been a very outspoken crick and the president --he sexrick president attacked him saying that's now -- not how youreat a guest in your country. it was a little bit ironic. certainly the president was he to remind people that was promoting brexit in the start and he didn't really fl that theresa may took his advice and that's why the entire thing is crashing and burning. two days away from her final day in office he remind her thate recommended she would sue the effort u. the special rhythm with an nt inserted ele of i am trump and here's what i have offered througs whole entire thing.

it was interesting to watch. robert: a debatable special relationship, perhaps, but what a moment for history to be there and to see the planes flying overhand. to think about 75 years ago what happened there. beyond president trump, what did itell us? >> i think it really reminded us of the tremendous personal madefice the united states on the behalf of a free and peaceful europe. there's really no greater, more glorious demonstraon of that and i think that's why, when president reagan went and president obama and president clinton, all of whom spoke in the same place, they really presented the united states as being squarely in the center ofr theean experiment and inning not hearing that message from preside trump was once again, it's not a new thing with him. he's been very clear on this. al but it was vivid not hearing from him on this hallowed gund. think the other major sort of

takeaway i had prosecute week was the degree to which president trump really valued the relationship he bui up with queen of england. in speaking with laura i think rehappen in that interview, t h sat folks had never seen her so animated. every day he would increase the superlatives. she was a great woman, a spectacular woman. maybe that for him was the biggest take away. >> i thought that was pretty stunng. also, h had his entire family there, something you don't always see and really saw that friction between the famy and business and all of those things. robert: thanks, everybody. we haveo leave it there but students from a special message from your pbs station then watch our "washington week" extra on our website facebook or youtube. i'm robert costa. have a gat weekend.

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