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captioning sponsored by wnet >> sreenivasan: on this edition for sunday, june 30... an historic gesture on north korean soil. the corporate popularity of pride month. and re growing number of incarcerated women. next on "pbs newshour weekend." >> pbs newshour weekend is made possible by: bernard and irene schwartz. sue and edgar wachenheim iii. seton melvin. the cheryl and philip milstein family. dr. p. roy vagelos and diana t. svage the j.p.b. foundation. rosalind p. walter. barbara hope zuckerberg. corporate funding isrovided by mutual of america-- designing customized individual
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and group retirement products. that's why we're your retiment company. additional support has been provided by: and by the corporation for public broadcasting, and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. from the tisch wnet studios at lincoln center in new york, hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: good evening and thanks for joining us. president trump took a history- making step onto north korean territory today and announced that talks to end the isolated, dictator-led, communist country's nuclear program would resume without any concessions from north korea. mr. p was the first sitting u.s. president to cross the demilitarized zone marking the border between north and south korea. >> ( translated ): good to see you again. >> sreenivasan: through an interpreter, north korea's leader kim jong un greeted mr. trumed saying, "i never expect to meet you at this place." ( cameras clicking ) then, the two leaders shook hands again on the north korean side of the border and walked
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the few steps back to south korea. >> sreenivasan: photographers and security officials jostled at what appeared to hastily arranged event. ( yelling ) the president continued to claim the meeting was something he thought of just this weekend when he tweeted an invitation to kim, but t were news reports that it was under discussion earlier. >> ( translated ): i believe, just l this is an expression of his willingness to eliminate all the unfortunate past and open a new future. >> i didn't really expect it. we were in japan for the g20, we came over and i said, "hey, i'm over here, i want to talk to chairman kim" and we got to meet. and stepping across that line was a great honor. >> sreeniv: after their handshakes, the twleaders met privately for nearly an hour. after walking kim back to the border, president trump-- deongside south korean pre moon jae-in-- told reporters that talks on north korea's nuclear program would resume.
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in i don't like sanctions on this country. i'm looking forward, but the sanctions remain, yes. but at some point during the negotiations, things can happen. and that's what we'lalking about, sanctions. okay? thank you very much. am>> sreenivasan: former administration acting c.i.a. director michael morell rned that today's meeting may strengthen north korea's position in future talks. >> a negotiated solution is the only solution to this problem. isn't a military option. there is not a covert action option, so getting bk to talks with the north koreans is important and i think that's a thing. the second perspective though is that this comes at a very high cost. this gives kg un a lot of legitimacy. this is goldim politically at home and in the world. >> sreenivasan: for more on the events today at the dmz and what might be next for north and south korea and for the united states, the "washington post's" japan and korea bureau chief simon denyer joins us now via skype from seoul.
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us, so the president's critics have pointed out that he has a history of understanding reality tv and drama. how is this perceived besides a photo op on the ground there? >> well, you know, it was a historic moment. northresident crossed into korea, he met the north korean leader, first time that's happened since the korean war, first time it has ever happened, actually. but it was, as you say, aau beful piece of carefully constrt the reality television. we were supposed to believe that this 4 all beenan oed in 24 hours with a tweet from the president. we spe h 24rs with the president building it up, minute by minute almost, sort of saying all through the cay oh, they're trying to make arrangemeyents, e trying to make arrangements. really leading us to believe that this was going tobe a surprising, dramatic final thing. i don't think many people really bought that line. everybody really was watching, expected that this had been organized sometime in advance.
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two lead ares from two powerful countries don't tend to organize meetings obasis of a tweet at that short notice. so it was reality tv at its best. >> more substantively what is the position that this s puay japan and south korea n because in the korea hasn't stopped testing its short range missiles whuld harm them? >> right, from the south korean point of view, from president on's point of view, it is a good thing that america and north korea ae talking. because it say better thing that arey are talking than they are about to have on each other. because for south korea that 78would be a disaster but for japan it is a different calculation. the the japanese have always been very wary of nor korea's nuclear weapons, the missile threat. they are very concerned a deal will be struck which will legitimize a nuclear weapon state right ontheir doorstep with missiles that are extremely hostile it so the japanese are watching it with a great
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deal of wariness and a great deal of concern. and i think what you see now is president trump usedo talk about de nuclearization. but in the last 24 hours, he barely mentioned denuclearization. he just kept saying the border is safer thran it used toe before. so we have are really moving the goal po here and i think that will be a concern for japan. >> sreenivasan: in that pa of the world, face saving, credibility, legit massey, are culturally more important than they are perhaps in the united states. what does that do to the standing of the north korean leader in the c ttext e leadership that is in the region? >> well, it is a very good question. oi think that the capse of the hanoi summit had actually been a blow for kim jung-un's domestic press teej. his press teej within north-- prestigen north korean, and it had been embarrassing for him. after that you see a return to
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certain amount of hos tillity from north-- hostility from north korebecause kim jung-un had to take that point of view, giving him an opportunity to sort of get back with trump ad art the kie log process, probably isn't a bad thing. it is prob better, as i say, that north korea and the united states are talking an north korea is testing ballistic missiles. the oblem is,s north korea going to surrender its nuclear weon, does kim have any intention of doing that. and i think that is the big doubt. it is-- is president trump legitimizing a nuclear weapon in this neighborhood. >> sreenivasan: is there any incentive to change their behavior when unitied states is willing to talk and not asking r any behavior on the north korean part to change. are you in contact with defectors, have conditions inside north korean--orth korea improved since the time
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this repachment between countries existed. >> north korean is still i buildi nuclear arsenal, missile arsenal. the human rights'tituations hahanged. those are two things, two solid indications that things are not getting better. there is one thing which is better and that is they are not testing their missiles they are not as hostile and as threatening. so one out of threerhat president trump achieved but thoses other two indicators, there ois progress. >> sreenivasan: simon dennier from "the washington post--" den yyer joining us live, thank you. sreenivasan: for more o president trump's historic meeting with north korn leader kim jong un, visit pbs.ornewshour. in new york today, the world's largest lgbtq pride march filled the streets for hours. organizers said more than 100,000 people marched, with hundreds of thousands mo lining the streets to watch. the parade passed the stonewall
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in marking the 50-year anniversary of the police ra there that started the modern- day gay rightsement. but for many, the day was also about maintaining the tegrity of the movement and preserving its grassroots origins. our weekend" correspondent ivette feliciano sat down erlier with kenyon farrow, senitor of thebody.com, to discuss what some lgbtq critics say has become the corporatization of pride. >> so today is the pride parade here in new york city and all month there have been lgbtq celebrations across the u.s. when did we start seeing this shift in attention that comes for pride events. >> i think we start really see a shift in kind of corporate interest, probably in the early 90s. there has been a lot of debated over the last roughly 20 years, or 30 years, actually. just what is it that we're losing in the process o you know, the parade becoming a
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predominant amount of floats that are about companies and corporations as opposed to community groups or political protest, et cetera. >> which there are lots of people in the lgbtq community who aren't going to mainstream pride events. who are groupshe like reclaim pride coalition and other people who are boycotting these events >> sure, so this year you have an interesting dynamicment so you have i think partly aa result othe 50th anniversary of stonewall a collection of organizations and activists in new york city who ctually want to participate in the more corporate pride parade as it currently exists. so they decided to have a could therattive march call queer liberation march that would march the original route of the first gay pride parade in new york city. the goal is really to kd of rededicate ourselves to kind of lgbf life as a political
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movement aopposed to a kind of de politicized just sort of party moment and a moment to just allow forne queeof corporations to marketo us ad nauseam. >> isn't it a sign of progressan d acceptance of lgbtq cture if these companies are giving them the the same attention as they do otherra demhics. >> just because a cooration slaps a rained bow flag on their website or creates ads or puts a float in the parade, they may so be involved in a range of other kind of activities. one being clear, what are their sort ohiring policies, how sort of queer or transgender friendly aretheir corpoions in terms of just like the workplace environment. in addition to as lgbt people, we are not just concerned with gay friendly. some of us are also concerned with minimum wage and wage conditions. a lot of lgbt people are poor. what we have seen in terms of
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the marketing to an lgbt consistencs a certain progress in the the sense that it demonstrates that we are seen as a group to be marketed to. but it doesn't necessarily mean a political commitment to the lives of these people in the country, especiallyse folks of color and people who are more vulnerable. >> we've seen ies like pepsi and nike sort of attaching themselves tother social justice movements. is this part of a larger pattern? >> i absolutely think it is part of a larger pattern. i think that what we are seeing, they just have gotten a lot smarter about it because of, i think, the ability to sort of capture data and really kind of microtarget messages. and also obfuscate some of the other sort of political concerns that peoplh may have w some of those corporations. many of us like to think more kind of comprehensively about what does it mean to be supportive of lgbt lives that goes beyond saying you are lgbt
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friendly and figuring out a way to get a product. >> simon kenyon farrow, thanks so much. >> thank force having me. >> sreenivasan: criminal justici refoamerica has resulted in an overall decline in incarceration. but that doesn't apply to one segment of the population: women in jail. jail, as opposed to prison, is ordinarily used to detain people who've been accused or convicted of a non-major crime, with sentences generally lasting a year or women now represent a growing proportion of that population behind bars. "newshour weekpecial correspondent david tereshchuk has our story. >> we like to lay down and watch movies. we play legos. >> reportewas a good day when we met selena lopez in south central los angeles. soon to be married, she was about to get the keys to her first real home. three years ago, she was in a
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veferent place. >> i struggled with substance abuse, which led me to my incarceration. i was in and out of county jail orr about a year. >> rr: like four out of five american women who go to jail, lopez is ae-other. her thar-old son nathan was taken away from her by social services when she was jailed. >> it broke me. being sent to jail and having him taken away from me pushed me into my addiction harder than i ever would have thought. i did a couple of times for the grand theft auto. >> god bless you. >> god bless you too. >> reporter: her incarcerationm story is far fusual. she's one of 2.5 million women who go to jail in america every year. jail is usually locally run confinement for pre-trial custody and short-term sentences. that's the theory, at least, but jail terms can often turn out to long, too-- even multip years. and there's an under- acknowledged fact about jails-- while the male population has decreased since 2008, the female
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population has stayed about the same, the result beingcohat women norise a higher percentage of the overall jail population. >> we're seeing this big divergence between men and women. >> repter: olive lu, along with colleague jacob kang-brown at the vera institute of justice in new york, has studied the changing genr makeup in the nation's jails. they point to women's lower incomes as one roadblock to affording bail, which can lead to an overcrowded system. >> women compared to men are much more likely to be unemployed at the time they are sent to jail, and their median incomes are about 30 percent lower than the men who are sent to jail. s reporter: the role wome relative poverty c play is all too familiar to susan burton. she runs the house where lopez got her fresh start in life,lfnd burton heras in both jail
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and prison during the 1980s.fo she served timdrug-related offenses after her son was killed in a car accident. it wasn't until she went to a treatment facility that she got the help she needed. the other one's this way? >> yes, right here. >> reporter: she has built a network of eight re-entry homes called "a new way of le." she has helped hundreds of once incarcerated women to get access to eon, jobs, and child custody legal services. >> they are incarcerated for crimes of poverty like theft, like maybe writing a bad check on a bad account that they don't have the money in, and that becomes fraud. they languish in that jail because they can't make bail. some of them want to get back to en, so many times they'll just plead guilty because they want to have time served and get out. >> reporter: with the higher proportion of women serving time, authorities across the country have decided to simply
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create more jail space. billings, montana, has recently finished building a new 148-bed women's jail lauderdale county, alabama, is spending about $1.ion to convert a storage bumeding into a s jail. geles county has the distinction of running the biggest women's jail in the united stas. sheriff's department lieutenant david petrocelli gave us a tour. >> we're a littlover 2,100. >> reporter: and this place was not built for that kind of population. >> no, it wasn't built for that population. so the buildings are not built to facilitate all the things that we need to do now as, you enforcement agency. >> we overpopula them, triple bunks, bunks in gym areas, bunks in day room areas. so i think we're going about, you know, what we do really, really backwards. >> reporter: the state of california allocated $100 million dollars to l.aunty
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for building a whole new women's correctional facility. but local activists said the answer didn't lie in creating new jail space. >> i am statewide coordinator for californians united for a responsiblbudget, otherwise known as curb. >> reporter: curb's goal, says amber rose howard, is to dismantle what she calls the state's "prison-industrial complex," and reduce its numofr ails and prisons. she showed us around curb's offices, which w je once a formenile court building. >> it's a locked-in holding illl. there's a , a phone, a sink. it's creepy but also, i think, inspirational because w that this was formerly a place where folks got sent to jail and prison, and now it's a justice nter. >> reporter: howard's mission was activated by being sent to jail at a young age. she was still in high scol, on track for college, when she was
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arrested. we're not naming the charges because her criminal record has since beially expunged. her experience made her especially concerned about inmates' mental health, which studies show is more seriously ed among jailed women th men. >> and let me tell you, if you don't already have struggles with mental wellness, you're definitely going to get some mental health issues when you're locked into a cage, when you're shackled at your wrists and at your ankles, when you're made to pull your pants and cough and squat in front of several sheriffs at a time. >> reporter: howard and other activists opposed l.a. county's plans to convert a former immigrant detention center into a new women's jail. and earlier this year, the county board of supervisors changed their mis about creating the new facility. >> and so we blew it up. that's the gws. the bad news is we don't know what we're going to replace it wi yet, honestly. reporter: like many other politicians and administrators, county supr sheila kuehl would, in an ideal world, have very few women ever sent to jail. but the current women's facility
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remains insufficient, and the county is again looking for a suitable location. >> so we're trying to negotiate y through that and maybe find a county facility that's already being used for incarceration that could be redone as a modern... i want to use the wordnurturing" jail, there is such a thing, for women. so i think there's a lot we can do in terms of identifying the needs of women where they're di health needs, physical health needs. they need trauma-informed care. there need to be classes, there to be things to do, there need to be these playwriting groups or art or job training of some kind. >> reporter: here in the existing women's jail, the sheriff's department practices what it calls edn-based incarceration. it includes schooling that's arpartly scholastic, and py training inmates in life-skills and for potential jobs on the outside. >> beauty schoolprs a vocational ram.
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we take some of the ladies, they train with a person who is certified in that field and they teach them how to cut hair. it gives them a skill set that itey can market themselves when they leave. the same thing with the culinary program that we have h we're going to be starting up a computer lab very soon. we have a sewing program that'su very pive. we cover a myriad of subjects from parenting to gender- responsive and therapeutic programs. >> reporter: that term-- "gender-responsive"-- has been gaining currency in the world of incarceration, meaning effortsin by correctionaitutions to provide for needs that are specific twomen. >> gender-responsive systems, when i hear that term it makes my skin crawl. my reaction to that is: no, we don't need gender-responsive jails, we need resources in our communities. we don't need to lock women up in order to give them the things they need in order to prosper and reach their fullest >> i started feeling like i belonged and that i mattered. >> reporter: selena loz is an example of how resources in the community can help.
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susan burton's reentry program gave her educational support as well as the legal assistance to get her son back. >> and hs been home now a year, and it's been amazing. i have been able to connect that bond that i had because i was in jail. having somebody believing in me, and in helped me.e, is what so i got my high school diploma in six months, which was something that really surprised me because i dropped out in ninth grade. >> reporter: susan b remains convinced that jail- inmates' needs can only be met tside of jail. >> i'd like to see people being able to sleep in a real bed instead of a bunk bed they call a "coffin." there's a lot of things that i'd like to see, but we can start with alternatives to incarceration-- pre-trial releases, ments in our school systems, and investments in our communiti >> all: keep coming back. it works if you work it, so work it because you're worth it! ( eers and applause )
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>> this is "pwe newshour end," sunday. >> sreenivasan: new york city's stonewall riots may have ignited the modern gay rights movement, but a comprehensive exhibition in chicago offers its own interpretation. reporter numberg from wttw's "chicago tonight" has the story. >> reporter: the show, called "about face: stonewall, revolt, d new queer art," uses the 1969 uprising as less of a de concept and more of a jumping off point. >> t information about the stonewall riots, but for the most part jonathan's vision is about the nature of queerness and the nature of queerness society. >> reporter: jonathan, in this case, is curator jonathan david katzkwho directed the landmar 2016 show "art aids america." katz says this show challenges the notion that stonewall marked a split between gay and straight. >> this is a show about how we
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are always many things at once, and it elevates the idea of trasn-ness as the defining quality, hybridity, flhe, shift, as t defining quality of the liberation movement. re reporter: the show's emotional arcs a possible in rt because of its ambitious scope, sprawling throughout the four floors of writwood 659's massive space. >> it is the largest queer art show ever mounted anywhere. it's powerful, it's moving, there's so much of it that it takes a good amount of time to really absorappreciate. >> reporter: and after appreciating the exhibition's 492 pieces, curator katz hopes visitors take with them... >> something that speaks to a very new vision of sexual difference, one that builds not boundaries between people but actually seeks to evaporate them in favor of our common humanity.
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