captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> brangham: good evening. i'm william brangham. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight, power in numbers-- what's next after more than a million demonstrators march through hong kong amid threats of a military crackdown. then, our politics monday team breaks down the white house's take on fears of a recession, gun safety legislation, and the latest moves from the democratic primary trail. plus, community healing takes center stage-- how a work ofli theater is p back the curtain dividing police officers and people of color. ne we had one, you know, story on one side, andtory on another: the police story and the story of people of color, and we're like, well, this is really one story that needs to

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>> and with thing support of these institutions: and individuals. og >> this m was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. m: >> brangew york city has fired the white police officer deinvolved in the chokeholh of an unarmed black man, eric garner, back in 2014. garner's dying words-- "i can't breathe"-- galvanized nationwide protest. today, new york's police commissioner said officer daniel pantaleo caused an "irreversible tragedy." garner's daughter said the fight

for justice is far from over. they spo at separate news conferences. >> in this case, the unintended consequence of mr. garner's death must have a consequence of it's own. therefore, i agree with the deputy commissioner of trial's legal findings and recommendations. it is clear daniel pantaleo can no longer effectively serve as a new york city police officer. >> erigarner was killed five years ago.k it tve years for the officer to be fired. i don't want another eric garner. i will do everything in my power garner.r see another eric n >> brangham: in 2014, a grand jury refused to indict pantaleon tate criminal charges. and last month, the u.s. justice department declined to charge him with federal civil rights violations. california governor gavin newson a new law today, prompted by police killing of minoritiest the nedards allow deadly force only wheit is necessary to prevent imminent death or injury to an officer or to bystanders. law enforcemendeorganizations

backed the measure after winning concessions on the law's wording. attorney general william barr has removehugh hurwitz as acting director of the federal bureau of prisonhe that followsuicide by jeffrey epstein at a federal detention center in w york. epstein was being held on charges of sexually abusing teenage girls. barr gave no reason for today's t ve but he had complained of serious problemse prison. in afghanistan, attacks in the eastern part of the country today wounded at least 66 people. officials said at ast 10explosif jalalabad. that followed satuay night's f suicide bombing at a wedding in kabul, that killed 63 and wounded nearly 200. the islamic state group claimed the kabul attack, and afghan president ashraf ghani vowedng retoday, in a televised address. >> ( translated ): unfortunately, the enemies of oucountry are very cowardly and weak that they carried out a brutal terrorist attack on a wedding party.

they targeted a completely civilian place a attacked our children and women.ta and in a bway they shed the blood of our countrymen.ng >> bm: all of this came as afghanistan today marked 100 years of independence from britain. air strikes in northwestern convoy today, fuelwish military tensions in the region. syri turks of shipping guns to a rebel town in idlib province, thlast rebel stronghold in syria. turkey said thconvoy was bound for a turkish outpost inside syria. an iranian super-tanker sailed for greece overnight, after ing held for a month in gibraltar. the british territory had detained the tanker for allegedly shipping oil to syriag in violation of european sanctions. iran denied any such intention. u.s. officials wantevessel seized again, but iran warned of "heavy consequences" if that happens. -he united states has flig tested a medium-range cruise missile for the first time in more tn 30 years.

it came two weeks after the u.s. and russia withdrew from a 1987 treaty that banned such weapons. the pentagon says sunday's test involved a navy "tomahawk" that carried a conventional whead, flew 300 miles and struck its target. two democratic members of congress condemned the israeli government today for denying th entry.l, in her st. pinnesota district, representative ilhan in their place.r lawmakers to go michigan representative rashida tlaib tearfully explained whysh refused to visit her palestinian grandmg her, after beanted an exception. it came with strict limits onta any publicments. >> through tears, at 3:00 in the morning, we all decided as a family that i could not go until i was a free american united states congresswoman cominger not only to see my grandmother, but to talk to lestinian and israeli organizations that believed my grandmother deserved human dignity as much as anyone else

does. >> brangham: israel says it and tlaib over theport foromar the boycott-israel movement. sudan's ousted president omar al-bashir appeared in a court today in khartoum to face corruption charges. a police detective testified that bashir admitted receiving millions of dollars from saudi arabia over the years. meanwhile, the country's military and pro-democracy leaders announced a new, joint ruling council. in economic news, president trump urged the federal reserve today to cut interest rates by at least one percentage point. and, wall street rallied as tech d financl ocks surge the dow jones industrial average gained 249 points to close at 26,135. the nasdaq rose 106 points, and the s&p 500 added 35. and, in pas, work to repair tre dame cathedral resumed for the first time in nearly a month. but this time, workers took protective measures and wore disposable clothing to prevent

lead contamination. clean-up crews also scrubbed nearby streets. the april fire at the medieval landmark melted hundreds of tons of toxic lead. still to come on the newshour: nearly two milon people take the streets in hong kong-- what's next for the pro- democracy push? fears of lost medical care after planned parenthogi is forced to up millions of dollars in funding. speaking with a survivor of child sexual abuse as new york makes it easier to prosecute offenders. where the democratic presidential hopefuls stan t- the race f nomination. heats up and much more. >> brangham: twitter and facebook announced today tmo suspension o than 200,000 accounts. the companies believe they're linked to the chinese government and were allegedly spreading disinformation.

that alleged social media influence campaign was designed to tarnish hong kong's pro- democracy protest movement, which showed over the weekend the power it wields in sheer numbers. special correspondent bruce harrison was there. reporter: despite weekeep downpours, it was the sea of umbrellas that flooded the streets of hong kong.: underneathnearly two million hong kongers in a sweeping showd of force focracy in the trinese territory.rr the wave of demoors kept a relative calm, a rare batch of protests police.f clashes with hong kongers welcomed the placid demonstration is very useful, because it is peaceful, and it is it will do no harm to others. i think it is it is a way to express oursrnves to the gont. >> reporter: the hong kong police sang their praises, too. >> the protest that took place

on sunday, shows if protesters are peaceful, rational and orderly, the police will not and have no reason to intervene. violence only begets violence. reporter: but despite the relative calm between demonstrators and hong kong authorities, beijing escalated its military presence this weekend in shenzen, near hong kong's border with the mainland. and today, china'soreign ministry again blasted the protest movement. >> ( translated ): it has been more than two months since the demonstrations and violent criminalctivities took place in hong kong. hong kong's legal system, social order, economy and livelihood, prosperity and stability and international image have all it turns out that the so-called democracy and freedom without only lead to anarchy and social >> reporter: yesterd president trump warned that if mainland frustration were to become force in hong kong, it would jeopardize a u.s. trade deal with beijing. >> no, i think it'd be very hard

to deal if they do vio know, i think there'd be tremendous political sentiment not to do something. so i hope, because i think we can end up doing a very good deal. >> reporter: meanwhile, some hong kong businees are embracing the democracy movement. like this bakery, which is showing support with tradilional chinese cy "mooncakes," featuring pro-democracy slogans. customers think it's a small way to support something bigger than themselves. ( translated ): fight for what hong kong people deserve. our generation didn't do our job and this caused a burden to the younger generaunon. ear mind, they know exactly what they want. >> reporter: but beijing has ith supporters isemi- autonomous territories, too. counter-protestors this weekend say they've had enough. >> ( translated ): we cannot tolerate this kind of action any more. you can express your political opinion but you cannot put it

into violenc you cannot affect other people's normal life. it's the bottom line.>> eporter: while there's optimism sunday's protest mark's a turning point away from the often violent demonstrations, the peace here is still very fragile. otesters say the current detente provides the government a rare window to answer their demands. but if not, the street clashes may return. for the pbs newshour, i'm bruce harrison in hong kon >> brangham: it can get lost but president trumhiser agenda, administration have taken a nuster of steps to restrict reproducti health care through the federal government. planned parenthood has been a central target. as yamiche alcindor tells us, new rules could mean a big change in how much money it and other groups receive.

>> reporter: more than 1.5 million low income women in the u.s. rely on planned parenthood for reproductive health services. many use the group's clinics for birth control, pregnancy tests and std screenings. but access to this care could be at risk. planned parenthood and other organizations that provide abortion counseling are facing a deadline to comply with new federal funding rules. in february,sthe trump admition announced the policy. it would bring important changes the government's only federal funding program dedicated to family planning for lower-income women. in order to get that funding, planned parenthood and groups could not provide referrals for abortion services. the rule led to erce backlash, and then lawsuits including from the group serves a0 percent of the country's four million title x patients. gwhile the decision is be appealed, planned parenthood officials say they will pull out of the program.ev >> we betrump admin is

doing this as an attack on keep providers like plannedto parenthood from serving our patients we will not be bullied into withholding abortion information from our patients, our patients ly>> reporter: in 2017, ne 4,000 clinics nationwide received title x funding. >> alcindor: the decision is expected to be heard by a federal appellate court later this year. some futher insight on potential impact. sarah varney of kaiser health news has covered this for e newshour. thanks so much for being here. millions of women are going to be impacted byi ths new title ten rule. how might that affect access toc abortion ands to other medical services provided by planned virenthood and other groups? >> as you machinessed, planned parenthood provides medical care to about 40% of ther foullion women ho are in the title ten program. but thimpact is likely to be much greater. so today's announcement focused on planned pardenth withdrawing from the title ten program but a handful of other

states say they will withdrawn, maine, washington, illinois, new york and maland have all said that rather than abide byhe thee new rules that the trump administration has put out that they will no long err accept title ten money as well. so the impact of this is going to be mucerh grehan just the women and some men who go sto these plan the parenthood clinics. >> you are talking about the impact. how might this new title tenp rule also iact planned parenthood's ability to operate inics across the country and tients seeking services. and how might these groups make the machine they are goiin to lose from title ten? >> in terms of sources of fundg title ten makes up about 19% of the budget for title ten clinics overall. so you can imagine that will be a pretty significant loss. planned parenthood today would not say how they mr. planning on making up the moey it is clear that at least for the short term these clinics are not going to close right away. most likely what you will see, i have been talking to peoplwho ruthese programs in different states around the country today

and what they generally say is that women will start to pay more out of pocket when they go to these linniks. right now tighten ten is by its natu to serve low income women. the a kiss proportionate number of women of color who get services at these clinics. many clinics might charge them more to see thedir physicians an nurses. some clinics may be forfoced tot layoff medicf so therefore the wait time for accessing services will be much larger. we will also probly see a change in the types of services women can get. one of the things that didin resting in the last counsel elf yearss after obama car to be a covered copain, many women got these long-acting birth control methods like iud's which had been quite expensive, we saw a lot of low income women move on to theetion longer acting meds of pirlt control ich is very effective n some cases almost 100 percent effective. somow you can imagine a an going to a title ten clinic. no longer is able to get that

reduced price or free price for an iudd at the same time the clinic won't have the money that st needs to go out and stock those iud's. so you end up with a situation where many women will no longer be accessing the kinds much longer-term birth control which we know have reduced unintended pregnancies and teen pregnancies. you saw in texas a number o years ago we did seat unintended pregnancy rate gup and the abortion rate went up there as well. >> what can you tell us about how thse groups with religious ties, how they might benefit from this new title ten roll back from the trump administration. >> there is one particular group called the obria medical groupp that iitioning itself to take over from planned parenthood to provide a nationae ork of clinics in this new administration, this new era of men's reproductive health care. all the the obria medical groupo they d provide any birth control other than fertility awareness method, no pills, iud's or condoms.

they do testing, pap smeer but they don't do any type of aditional birth control or abortion. >> that groups wants to see itself as the new planned parenthood. tell me about how this new title ten rule factors into the broader agenda from the trump administration to take on the access to abortion anda plnned parenthood? >> well, this is really part of the trump administration and particularly vice president mike pence really making good on a promise that they campaigned on which was to really remake women's reproductive health care in the united states. so it's not jusnit about tur off the spig ot to access to abortionngut really chag the types of bifort control that women are on, the types heof edation that chldren receive around birth control so there has been a big shift twards abstinence funding. digsal religeus protections and a roll back of an obama era rule that required that employers offer birth control to their employers. so this is really part of a much broader agenda that this

administration has been implementing ever since it took office. >> thank you so much, sarah varney of kaiser health news.ha >> you. >> brangm: people who have been sexually abused achildren often find it takes years to come to grips with what they've endured. by then, more often than not, they're blocked from taking legal action against those responsible because of state laws that limit the time when but as lisa dejardports,ed. just last week, new york became the latest of morehan a dozen states to change those limits. >> desjardins: new york state's new law is particularly sweeping. now, individuals can file civil lawsuits over childhood sexual abuse until they are 55 years old. the limit had been 23. it also allows anyone of any age one year to file a case from the past. this allows for a flood of

catholic church, the boy scouts and, in the case we will discuss tonight, rockefeller universit manhattan. this year, the school acknowledged the latdr.na re archibald sexually abused children in his care at the university's hospital, touching and fondling them for no medical reason. he often took photos o naked. the number of children abused potentially in thebuhousands archibald worked in pediatrics for four deces, starting in 40. he died in 2007. jennifer freeman is an attorney hth the mars law firm, wh is representing some 550 lawsuits.s in these new one of those plaintiffs is gail coleman, who saw dr.hibald several times as a child, starting in 1974, at a 11. thank you, ladies, jennifer, let me just start with you. this is an hislatoriwhat is the potential scope of this and what could this mean for abuse survivors. legislation.y is landmark and it means that anyone at any

age can truly come forward ie n ecial look back window and get their child sex abuselaims addressed. >> what happens, they still must go through the traditional procedure,t s thaght? the steps to go through court. >> absolutely right. you still have to prove yor case no matter what. ved that invtelling your story. that involves getting documents such as with the ctholic church, the secreted file, the boy scouts inegible files a the documents that ckefeller lliversity has already >> gail, what does this mean for you, this opportunity? >> this means that finally i can hold rockefeller university accountaate for its role in happened to me. they left me alone with a pedestrian file. -- pedophile and even their own investigators have found thaop complained to them, years before i walked through that door. and they made ahe choice, they instead of me and the thousands of other children that he molested. there needs to be cosequences

for that choice. >> there was even a grand jury case in 1960 against dr. archibald and the u knew about it, till dismissed it. one thing i notice about youre lawsuit, so of these named and used initials instead. but you were named and here you are in public. why was it important for you to be fully named and public about this. >> i think it important for survivors to come forward. so often we don't because we feel shame.r but wee the victims. we don't have anything to be ashamed about. the shame really belongs to the people who molesd us and winh thtitution to let it happen. and i think the more that peopl, talk about the more clear it and that's how we start. protecting children in the future. >> ata it takes so much tlk about. i am really especially interested in this case because i done think if has go ttten a t of nationaewattention. inork it has made a lot of

headlines but i'm curious, what lddo you think people shnow about dr. archibald, who you called a monst when we were talked just before. he abused the fact that we, that i, i was a child. i was 1 years old. and he was a doctor. and he was a well respected disok tor. and as a child especially t is very hard when a doctor is holding out what he is doing as for medical purposes t is hard to believe it is not true even if it doesn'feelight. 's beused his pos hition. left children often alone, while telling rent there was someone else with you and apparently lied to the parents as well and the university. >> but the university had some knowledge. he has now passed away, long since dead. what do you want to happen her what do you hope these lawsuits do?e i hope that se lawsuits will hold rockefeller university

accounble and i hope they do it in a way that is so quengs, that other institutions are going to have to take notice and are going to have tosu mak that they ve policies and procedures in place to make sure that this doesn't happen to anyt r child on their watch. >> the other thing that i want from this lawsuit is hoke pictures of me. and i want to find out what happened to them. e they still out there? who has seen them. are the negatives ill out there. if they r i want them back. i just don't knod w. e fact that they may sti be out there, that is an ongoing revictimmization for me. it means this isn't just in the pass the when i wa s a child, it still happening to me. >> and this is the case for hundreds, thousands of people that he saw. as we talk about what difference this could make for children in the future what kind of message this sensed,ennifer, thisis a man who passed away. some of these insartitution facing possible bankruptcy

because of the amount of lawsuit. the insurers are worried about be og able to pay allf these claims. what do you ink this does, how does this protect children. >> this will as gail sai encourage or require the spheutions-- institutions toec prchildren to make sure that they are not alone with a ild to make sure that black ground checks are properly made to make sure that procedures are and also make sue that people are just aware that these things can happen in any, unfortunately in any youth-searching organization. there has to be attention to this. >> the ideahaultimately the financial consequences could be so enorms that all the constitutions need to take >> i have a bigger question about power. in apo of these cases we've seen institutions that have been ven rated, authority figures who are also ven rated use that power to prey on children or to cover up peop who have preyed on children. how does this get at that

culturally. do you have hopes the will be cultural changes as well, gail. >> i do. think that the more people who come forward and the more clear becomes how broad the scope as society loudly condemns it, even children will feel more comfortable coming foard andha feelthey will be believed and as i said, the shame, that america is profound but hope mee that will become less. >> has it started to become less. you are just a few days into. th but how is it feeling even this week? didn't imagine could happen. >> well, that's right. it hasn beevery helpful that through this process i have met other survivors. it's been very helpful to talk to them. and the other thing is the more we are learning aboutan rockefellewhat they knew, just becoming angrier andt, i am

angrier. >> it is true that they had done the right thing as of 1 160-when the grand jury investigation was going on, they had a gra jury s&p. they should have taken notice, if they had done that nearly 90 percent of these victimizatios never would have happenr. >> jennireeman, gal, thank you both very much. a very important conversation. thank yous for keeping it onthe national radar. >> thank you very much for listening. >> brangham: we turnow to the 2020 presidential campaign, where democratic c sdidates who'uggled to break out of the crowded field are trying to re-focus their camigns. massachusetts senatowaelizabeth en, meanwhile, is rising in in iowa today, warren set out to

how she handled her claims to nationallive amrican ancestry, that as she addressed a natamerican presidential for numb sioux c ty, iowa. >> i know that i have >> i know that i have made mistakes i am sorry for harm i have caused i have listened and i have learned a lot.ep >>ter: elsewhere this weekend, other candidates worked to reach minority voters. south bend mayor pete buttigieg was in hartsville, sou carolina: >> south carolina you've got a thumb on the scale of preswential politics right no >> reporter: three leading candidates campaigned across the state this weekend, trying to shore up black support in is key early voting state. vermont senator bernie sanders introduced a sweeping, progressive criminal juscead plan af his weekend swing through south carolina the sanders plan ends cash bail and civil asset foreiture,ro bans fort prisons, abolishes the death penalty, legalizes marijuana and creates a prisoners' bill of r which includes ending solitary confinement and guaran reing felons tht to vote. meanwhile in new hampshire... >> i'm running for president

a because i believe we neenew >> reporter: ...a handful of a 2020 hopefuls pitched themselves to first in the nation voters at por his part, president tr made clear he believes a possible economic downs the gravest threat to his reelection. yesterday, before leaving his new jersey golf club, he downplayed those fears: >> i don't think we're having a recessn.tr we're doing endously well. >> reporter: and today he blamed democrats for stoking the concern, tweeting: "democrat are trying to "will" the economy to be bad for purposes of the 2020 election." and that brings us to litics monday i'm here with tamara keith from npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." j and joshnson, also from npr. he's the host "1-a." welcome to you both, poldaitics mon nice to have the mub lick media gang around the table. the way it should be. power to public media. >> brangham: joshua, we saw

some of the leading casdida and what they re up to this past weekend but there are still a dozen plus candidates trying to break out to get their head above water, to get their name known. what do you make of the different efforts these candidates a trying out. >> it is kind of hard for me to draw comparisons because 2020 will be so differentthan 2016. you have the debates which already have a built-in attrition effect where fundraising and individua campaign contributions are going to play a factor so we will see me attrition of that, people who aren't able to marshal enough grass roots support. also we're in a different calender, iowa, new hampshire typically iportant but california is part of supertuesday and as a former san francisco i'm realto interested ee if people on the west koases are able to uh-huh aw, we want to pull the party in this direction and blow the whole field up. >> that would be huge, california. >> it would be. and also the democrats are trying to learn theesson of 2016 and make sure every single demographic that they have an in-roads in shows up to the polls. the la thing they want isto have a seefers edge-cases in

2020 that allow donald trump to be re-elected. so part stf just retail stu politics getting people like knee. and part of it is getting democrats to say no matter who the nominee s i will show up in november. >> tim, we saw a couple of big proposals out of bernie and to a over the weekend.zabeth war again, issues they seem to be wanting to make this an issue-driven campaign. is that really the strategy?ta >> cly for the primary. all the candidates, almost all of tesem have a lot of plans. even you go to andrew yans website, he hash like dred different proposals on different things. elizabeth warren, her campaign slogan is essentially she's gotl of course had t criminalanders ith.ice plan he came out and so yes, this say campaign where in the primary, they areg talkout plans. but here is the thing about the general election.u

president mp has shown virts virtually no interest in policy details at any pont in his presidency. so the idea that there could be a debate where they would stand up there and you know, really trade ideas. >> hash out the complexities of climate change or something. >> it's not going to happen tht way. but in terms of sending a signal about what you care abt in the democratic primary field, a way to send a signal to voters that you care, that youfeel what they are feeling is to have a pla for tht. >> one of the things that the president seems to be signaling is that he does seem to be nervous that an economic downturn could imper ill his chances. at a rally he said if you all don't re-elect mo your ecnomy will go in the toilet. >> your 401(k) will go the option. h, that is the axiom of politics, thatnohe eco determines who wins the presidency. do you still believe that that is true? >> well, kind of, it's not just

the economy, and i agree withat kau, the stock market is not the economy t is the way thatteultalvestors view the economy. i think it is more about remember whanald trump's whetteos, ima was in 2016, i'm a billionaire, a businessman, i know how to get stuff done. i will make deals for thee. american peo my prosper thity becomes your pros pitter, make america gre agai so in so far as his base feels that it is yet prosperous undern a trump atration and can continue to prosper rarlsd of the tarfs and negotiations with china and everything else, is he probably still okay. i think it has more to do with sentiments.im abraham lincoln oncsaid with public sentiments nothing ask fail, without it nothing ask recceed, as long as the sentiments is tnd the feeling that we are still going to be prosperous, yeah, he tweets toouch, i wish he wouldn't spar with the media too much. bum still okay economyically, he may be find

despite these indicators. >> brangham: is that your sense too. >> a lot of trump voters say that thing. he could twess, i don't i like the things he says but look at my0 41(k). well, if your 401(k), if you looked at your frairk last thursday, the same day that he had that rally thi covered, concerned.ight be a little bit and if there is well a recession coming and there is no way at this very moment to know that. ned at the moment there is historically lowloyment and all of these other things, that is a-- a recession is an incredibly hard thing to run on. and that is why he is concerned. that is why a white house official told me that they-- the offial didn't say that this why they are doing it but a white house official did say s that they arconsidering other potential tax cuts. and that, you know, the reason the president is bad gerring his own fed airman on twitter, demanding a rate cut and quantitative easing is because

the president is concerned about what a potential economicdo downturn, sl or recession could do for his re-election chances. t brangham: i want to tu the issue of guns. just two we cans after el paso and dayton.an in the immediate aftermath of those tragedies as we've seen so many thmeere was talk of background checks and red flag laws andk let's tae those nasty magazines out of circrcnoulatio. buit already seems 14 days out that that talk is starting to dissipate. the president was asked about this the oer day. listen to what he had to say. >> congress is working on that. they have bipartisan committees working on background checks and various other things. and we'll see. i don't want people to fore ge that this say mental health problem. but just remember this, big mental problem and we do have aa lot of background checks right now. >> brangham: joshua,it seems like we are already moving to sort of sequester this as not an issue that we arin really to worry about or talk about or

legislate anything about. >>ell, this-- we have come to this before. remember the mass shooting in las vegas and wealked abut banning bump stocks there are also a few different factors here. one is that the students from parkland are not quiet about they arstill working heund the scenes so i think the grass roots effect may manifest. two is the fact that this there was such a racially hateful common ent to the el paso shooting which brings up theser otltural fault lines that also have to do with the president and his rhetoric, so this makes this a little hotter. the third one is the mental health con t. there is no evidence to sub stand yaitd that people with ant health issue are more likely to que murder and when utah you can about men thel th, where is the thr esh hold. are you talking about someone who is being diagnosed who is being treated, who is being medicated.for what medication, u going to screen people before hand because they can buyai cekinds of guns, what type, do you take the ones they have i mean i don't talk about this much. but i take med kaitionz for anxiety and depression and have since -9d beginningk of the

year. >> am i not allowed to own a fire arm because i take clonopin an well brut written, and why, d how do i appeal it it begins to become a rabbit hole that may have legitimate policy answers. but is that really where we want to go and is that whe t debate fall as part. if you are a ifrong supporter of e second amendment, is the hole you want to end up in or focus on your right to own a fire arm it just feels like it has the potential to de generate ind details then everyone ignores gun violence again until someone else dies. >> brangham: joshua johnson, tamara ith, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> you got it. >> brangham: we began the show with the eric garner case and the firing of a new york cy police officer, which became a flashpoint for larger issues involving law enforcement around e country. portlandoregon has had its own history with racial

discriminations and tensions th the police. there's a new effort underway to special correspondt wise reports on a theater company's racial ecology through the arts, so to speak. it's part of our ongoing series on arts and culture, canvas. >> reporter: on a recent morning, an old fire station turned playhouse was packed wits theater-goers. but this was not a typical thear crowd-- it was a who's who of oregon law enforcement: police officers, f.b.i. agents, district attneys, and judges. they were joined by prominent community and civil rights leaders. >> thanks everyone. i'm a little overwhelmed. a just looking o seeing who is in the room. >> reporter: kevin jones and hii wife lon are the co- founders of the august wilson red door project, a portland- based arts organization. >> this is bob or robert day, retired deputy chief of the police department and our

partner in crime. >> we reallyelieve there is an opportunity here, some work to be done on behalf of the black community and on the criminal justice system. >> reporr: over the last few years, the three have formed an unusual partnership to spark new conversations, and wayof thinking about, race relations in portland, and they're using the stage to help bridge the divide. >> when you're talking about issues of race you can't just say we're all going through thee hing because we don't. >> stopping you because you are black is against the law. profiling you is against the law. i are you sayi breaking the law? reporter: the performan that day was a collection of first-person monologues from two different plays. one is called "hands up."y it was writtenrican american playwrights about their life experiences and being racially proled by the police.

>> they slammed me to th ground. e of the officers had his foot on the back of my neck, the pointed a gun to the back of my head and said, ¡move one inch and i'll blow your ( blee) head off. oh i went into survival mode. i tried to convince them i was one of the good ones. >> reporter: the other play is called "cop out" and it too tells rsonal storiesf police officers and the challenges they face at work and when they take off the uniform. nothing about being a cop would shake me up. but when you arrivon scene and watch your partner pull an infant out of a microwave because his meth-head father couldn't stop the kid from crying, your lens gets colored. >> reporter: we were there for the first time the monologues were performed together . >> we had one story on one side, and one story on the other sidei and people of color and we're like this is really one

story that needs to be connected. i it's where these stories intersect that is for us the greatest chance of finding the truth. >> we're not dividing the story into two sides right? good guys and bad guys. on both sides we have a group of people who feel that their stories are not being told that they are being vilified that they're you know bei shunned and nobody wants to really hear their story. >> reporter: "hands up" was originally commissioned in 201" by "e new black fest" theater group in new york following the police shooting death of michael brown in ferguson, missouri. >> i'd like to start with a show of solidity, if you would all please raise your arms straight up in the air. >> reporter: ding a monologue

called "w i feel" the audience is asked to ke both hands raised during the entire peormance. >> hands up! >> don't shoot! >> hands up! >> don't shoot! >> reporter: more than 12,000 in the region have seen "hands up" in the last few ars-- but the producers also wanted to tell the stories of police officers. f they contacted deputy chy then head of the police training divion and asked for his hel >> his voice quivered and he said he said to us you could do that wow. that would be amazing. >> reporter: playwrights from around the country, many of them black, interviewed officers and wrote monologues about their experiences. gthey also spent a day goen through police training. >> ty showed us what they face y to day and it changed me. i was blown away by the kinds of instantaneous decisions theyst ed to make. i felt the vulnerability in what they do. o >> ty reason i carry a gun

is f icne, sometimes yours, sometimes in a highly spec circumstances, like an active shooter, and, nope that's about . >> reporter: for 66-yearorld- jones, se of the monologues hit close to home. encounters with laenforcement, ranging from being questioned to arrested. hebut he says his views of police have evolved. >> that was what was in the back of my mind when i said to bob day three years ago that ¡i want to tell you your story' because in your story i'm going to find my story. i'm going to find the memmonality and then you know we'll we will beloser and i will see you beyond your whiteness and you'll s me beyond my blackness. and we will be two human beingsp >>ter: that newly forged human connection has had a big impact.my >> it's changeife, my

world view is different, my relationships are different. >> reporter: day, who retired earlier this year, searly three decades with the police bureau. >> wre touching on sort of t thirg rail conversations of rac anlicing. and i think there are conversations th are happeningfr inan-american families in homes and communities and i know they're happening in police communities because bve heard i'n a part of them i'veem seen them. but they're not happening publicly and they're not happening generally cross wi each other because of the sort of high voltage nature of them. so that the theater allows us tu it all out there, we can speak what has been left unsaid. >> we get calls from newly settled white residents about 'suspicious behavior' all the time. we get there and s it's an older black male and he's isst walking toailbox. >> reporter: actor bryant complexities on boes.he he performs roles in hands up and cop out.

and in real life he's worked in law enforcement and has also r beially profiled by police. >> what i want is really for to put a mirror in your face and do a self check and really ask some serious questions you know. i know the hardest thing for someone, even a black person, il to ask you ¡am i a racist? >> reporter: those involved with the project believe what they are doing may be a model for dide americans.issues that and they're hoping to perform the combined monologues aroundst the countrting later this year. wise in portland, oregon. cat >> brangham: and we'll be back shortly with a story about a but first, please take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. >> brangham: for those stations

staying with us, we want to bring you an encore from our tcebook series, "that mom when." we know that humor often comes from pn. hard truths can sometimes be really funny. and with some comics, dark moments from their own lives can sometimes leado laughter. a few months ago, the comedian and writer patton oswa gave us an intimate look at grief, and how he dealt with a terrible loss. we look back now at what oswalt learned from his young daughter, after the sudden death of his wife. when are you starting out as a comedian what t feel like, that stretch of time where you are talking and the aud is looking at you like this? >> that stretch of time feels like, for one it stant de hydration and dry mouth. and then you startpeeding up because you figure if i talk faster, it will go faster. but then now there is way more dead space on stage because you are eating up your time quicker done it long eno go for a have punch line like a gun you have w

hidden liit, they don't know i'm armed and i will get them. t early on you are gong for that punch line like are you jumps to the darkness an hoping there say tree branch there base you have n yot gotten is funny or isn't. you kn you can tell a young comedian because a lot of their km de ist i'm goin point out what is up did about the world, here is this dumb thing and id sai something cler. and then as you get older it is like oh, go d, listen thow i screwed this thing up. welcome to that moment when. patton oswalt is a cmedian emmy winning television writer an two best selng book. pis hit lst feature one of the most-- vilans, oswalt wasgr ious with us as he reflected only his life. we spoke abo his relationship with gridee after the s death of his wife in 2016, on raising teir young dghter and on finding love again. >> you lost your wife a few

years ago. >> yeah. >> when did you decide to talk about it on stage. >> michelle passed away on apri, 016. i think four or pfeiffer months wrafer ward i was just, i didn't know what elsie to do wth myself. i was so just funtctioning. i was just a series of tasks that i completed every day, that saul i was, no personality, nothing. well, the thing that i do, i do stand up. ge andted going on sta started talking about it. there were nights where i would try and talk about it but couldn't find what the humourous angle was or how dare i even try to find theu hmorous angle but it went right back to the basis of being an open micker, go on stage over and over and over again until you can make this make sense. if i wasn't a father to alice, i feel pretty strongly that i would have become an alcoholic or a drug addict after michelle died there wouldn't have been any point to take care of myself, to get up. l but hi that little gi i am like, i'm going to take care of

this little girl, that is my job. watching alice bounce back from her mom passing away. she has taught me, it's okay to lk away from stuff that is not working. instead of sitting there and dwelling on t the seduction of depression tricks you intoin ng this is the more comfortable way to be. don't go out, don't interact with people, safer inside, saer in the dark, cocoon up, cover up, no, that is the lie >> i have heard you describe grieve as it is something like i'm waiting for you, just when you're ready to go out. and i'm wondering how has your relationship with evi evolved. >> grieve is alwspi ed-- grief is always de picked like clarifying ven v dense,geance, like ayou go through it, you start working out, becoming a warriorgrto f is gasious and bloated t is not this dark, antheroic thing stvment really sad. i think a lot of times what leads people to way darker places wi grief and depression is they think that well, if i

can't geet rid of this, tn what is the point of living. i think you have to sort of wink at the darkness sometimes and acknowledge you have it inside of your sevment i just accept that grief is there andri depression is a thing that i have. and if you can kind of go okay, you are inside of me and are you not tting out and i'm clearly not getting rid of you, so what do you need, deression, what do you need because i have to do a through d and if you don't let me do those, then you are not going to be able to go out in the world as much as you want. there will be a lot of things you have to live with. but you can niend ways to trick it, wink at t cajole t fool it into letting you liva fuller life. >> you can tell me when you realized that you wer oe ready o a new adventure and commit yourself tsomeone else. >> weirdly enough, because my wife passed away andhn my friend's sister passed away and then another writer friend of mine passed away. there seemed to be all this death around me.

and i was talking t susie essman, am i this avar and of death and she went you're not that important, sweetie t kin of jolted me out of it. it was really freeing, are you not that important stvmentot about you. it was almost a year later, and my now wife mer dilt sal-- meredith sal enger and i were both invited separately a mutual friend of ours to a different party much last minute i couldn't go cause i was traveling. meredith, we have friends in comment on facebook, saying you missed some amazing lasagna, uh, story of my life. and then we just started messaging on facebook. we didn't even talk on the phone or meet for the moths. but every night i would log on back and forth, back and forth for hours a night. i had one of the this that i missed the most about being with someone you love, which ise some just talk to in the dark at the end of the day. and so we very much fell in love with neither of us trying to fall in love. what are things you do to

keep michelle's memory alive. >> my daughter said when your mom dies you're the best memory of her. erything you do is a memory of her. i don't get so worried about onh anniversary of her death or on her birthday are we going toi do som. because we do something every day, every day that alice draws something cool or helps a frienh a new add men veur-- adventure, that say memory and tribute t her mom. that is it right there. >> you can find all episodes >> brangham: you can find all episodes of this series on facebook. watch "at that moment when show." >> brangham: nowa detroit tist is making beauty out of abandoned spaces. special correspondent mary elle geports. it's part of our "canvas" series.

>> reporter: scott hocking wants to transform detroit's empty spaces into something extraordinary. >> a lot of the artworks i do are playing with the idea of ataking something you hav stereotype about, or maybe a stigma, trsforming it into mething else so it becomes loftier. >> reporter: hocking haspent the last two decades creating sculptures and site specificic works by salvaging industrial materials from detroit's neighborhoods and usingbu abandonedings as his canvas. >> early on wasted ml was free, i was broke, but then later it just came clear that i wanted to use this material because i really would like to change people's thinking about things, and maybe change their perspectives on what they think of as wasted material, and decay, and abandonment. >> reporter: hocking's installations look like ancient closely tied to the creation,

decline and rediscovery of the city he has lived in his entire life. for his latest work hocking has transformed an empty riverfront warehouse into an installation entitled bone black.e >> this place was built on theve and the use of boats. s a phenomenon in detroi that's been going on for twenty tyears now, which is peope their boats that they can't afford anymore, that they don't want to deal with anymore and they dump them. i call them shipwrecks. >> reporter: hocking moved 33 shipwrecks into the warehouse, and the exhibition takes its name from a pigment made by charring animal bone b >> it's obably one of detroit's oldest industries, that no one ever has heate of. >> repor the warehouse, the boats and the pigment combine to create an installation that gives a viewer the impression of standing on the bottom of body of water looking up at boats floating overhead.

the materials from bone black will be transformed one more time when the exhibition ends. esethe thing that started kinds of projects is that they were dumped illegally and they're trash. a huge part of these kinds ofis projects for mhat when everything is done, these boats will all be properly disposed of. reporter: hocking says he knows he will lose his ability to create largscale installations as detroit's empty spaces are developed. and that may be the next transformation in scott hocking's work. >> this time is about to go. i'm not out of spaces yet. but there's just not that many left like this now. >> reporter: for the pbs newshour i'm mary ellen geist in detroit, michigan.ha >> bra and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm william brangham. for all of us at, he pbs newshoank you and see youyo soon. or >> munding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >>geabbel. a langearning app that uses speech recognion technology and teaches real-life conversations.

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