>> narrator: three decades ago, frontline told the story of a pennsylvania community divided over abortion... ,>> and this is a life-si model of a pregnant uterus... >> narrator: now we return to examine a conflict that has only escalated... >> we realize, if we're ever going to outlaw abortion that we have to be able to help womens who feel thaeir only alternative. >> narrator: and to hear from the women caught in the middle. >> because i'm a mother, i'm not supposed to be doing stuff lthe right? it's not that simple though. >> narrator: as the battle continues... >> there was the sense that, women simply can't make moral decisions on their own. the state has to intervene and tell them what to do. ur ...there is a 24 aiting period... >> narrator: an intimate look at abortion.

the people on both sides... >> this is literally a life-or-death decision. and to ask a mother to think about it for 24 hours is very reasonable. >> narrar: and the struggle over complex choices. >> some patients are like, "i don't want to be dotg this, but it is the ri choice for me." only they know what they should do. >> narrator: tonight on frontline- "the abortion divide". >> frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support is provided by the jo d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. more information at macfound.org. the ford foundation:is working withnaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. at fordfouation.org. additional support is provided by the abrams foundation, committed to excellence in journalism. the park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. g

the john and helssner family trust. supporting trustworthy journalism that informs and inspires. t and frontline journalism fund, jo ann hagler.port from jon and ng (bells ringin distance) >> mark obenhaus: 36 years ago, i spt weeks in chester, pennsylvania, making a film about abortion for "frontline's" first season. it was ten years after roe v. wade. >> tonight, on "frontline," for the first time on ameran television: the experience of with this vacuum cleaner-type tube, the baby is literally pulled apart and ripped

pieces. >> this is the story of the anguh of four women: two who decide to have their babies, an o choose to come here. ♪ "the abortion clinic." ♪ >> obenhaus: the film revolved around the reproductive health and counseling center.wh women came to the abortion clinic spoke about their decisions. >> can you tell me why you chose this optio as opposed to the other ones? do you know what they are? >> you don't know what your other options are? >> well, keeping it, adoption. >> mm-hmm. >> but i know if i went through, the nine month would have kept it. >> mm-hmm. >> and then it wouldn't have had the life... a good life, because i can't support myself yet. >> mm-hmm. >> and i wouldn't be able to handle being a single parent on mywn. >> our father, who art in heaven... >> obenhaus: those in the community who steadfastly clinic's existence marhe

outside. >> girls are coming here onve saturday morning to abortions. we pray for their babies and for them, d we also pray for the, for the abortionists. maybe some of them don't realize what ty're doing. >> give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. ♪ >> obenhaus: last year, i returned to pennsylvania, once again to a community that is today even more bitterly divided over abortion than it was 36 years ago. ♪ the conflict may be decades-old, but one thing has not changed:

women facing unplanned me urgent and sometimesont the wrenching decision. (car horn honks) the original clinic fromhe first film merged with another clinic that now operates out of in philadelphia.e building (car horn honks) ve a heart! >> obenhaus: there are no signs for the clinic, but there are always protesteron the streets outside. >> excuse me, ma'am? do you know how many babies are killed her ma'am? (whispers): can i give this to you? >> you'd like to make an appointment?he >> obenhaus:hiladelphia women's center began providing abortions in 1973. as many as 6,000 pregnancies a year are terminated here. >> absolutely nothing to e, drink, or chew. and do you have any children? >> six. >> six?wo one,three, four... >> nine, ten. >> nine, ten. >> mm-hmm. >> obenhaus: dr. rebeccabe mercier ha an abortion provider for 11 years.

>> every kind of woman gets abortions: um, women who are of all races, women ofld, women religions, women who, it's their first pregnancy, women wh lots of children, um, women who never thought that they would bert seeking an an. we see all of them here. t >> obenhau clinic operates five days a week. on some of the days we were there, there were as many as 60 patients. p dr. liriera has been ansi abortion provider e 2003. >> the patients are so thankful and appreciative that they can come somewhere and be treated with dignity and respect, because they're making a choice that is theirs to make. >> do you have any children? >> y, four. >> four, okay. any stillborns? >> no. >> any miscarriages? >> no. >> have you ever had an abortion before? >> mm-hmm, one. >> okay. >> well, this is my choice that

i'm doing, because i don't want to bring another child into then world, and i'm not fcially stable. i'm already struggling with the four that i have. so i'm not sure what mother option would be. but if this wasn't an option, then i know i would be struggling. >> dominique... >> i'm just going to take you upstairs, okay? >> obenhaus: most of the women we approached to be in the film declined. those who chose to speak, like shaharra and taryn, told us they wanted their stories to be heard. >> i'd had unprotected sex just one time with someone that i had been seeing, and i thought, "well, you know, surely one time, you know, i would just get sort of a grace period on that." a d essentially talked myself out of the fact at i was pregnant. >> have you ever had a vaginal ultrasound? >> i don't think so. >> oy, a little bit of gel, a little bit of pressure, there's a camera on the tip,

it gives me a nice, clean look inside the uterus. >> i already have two small children. four-year-old from a previous marriage, and i'm recently single. i have a corporate career.so an decided that the best thing for me to do at this point in my life was goibe to terminate the pregnancy. >> so your ultrasound results, i saw a multiple pregnancy, so i saw twins. >> wow. >> oka i measured one at 5.4, so five weeks and four days. and twin b at 5.6. okay? >> okay. >> all right. so i'm going to do your blood pressure. c now, does thisnge anything in your decision today? >> no. >> and it doesn't change o anythingn our end, as well. >> okay. >> so everything stays just the same. >> this is n a position that i ever thought i would be in. my initial thought was, "i t shoul no one about this, right, like, this should just

be, you know, a secret that i, that i take to my, that i take to my grave, because it'llge chow people you know, see me fundamentally, or, or people will judge me for this." (women speaking indistinctly) >> okay. >> and you can set your things down, anywhere you like. all right, i'm going to have you lay back right where you arp and just open yourts for me. >> okay. >> so the gel's going to feel a little cold on your stomach, okay? >> mm-hmm. >> (muttering) i'm seeing something that, uh, resembles another sac. twins. >> oh, my god. (exhales)

>> so i'm going to do some... so like, like, is the procedure any different? >> no, it's exactly the same, it's no different. >> why does it feel so different? >> why does it feel different?h. >> my god, y >> when she said that there were twins, i wasn't prepared for that at all. i didn't even consider the possibility. (sniffles) i don't ow. it's not a rational thing. it felt...tl it made things a l different. >> it's a hard decision. >> it completely does. you guys, you're six weeks right now, which means you have plenty of time. do you feel like, if you guys went home and thought about it for, like, even, like, a few days and made sure that this ish

you want to do, like, that would give you a little more time to think about it? like, i nt you to be certain that this is what you want to do. >> it was, it was a double punch. s >> oh, yeah, fe. >> it was, um... we're not taking this lightly at all. >> i want you guys to be confident, and you can always reschedule and comback on tuesday, if you want. >> i appreciate that, and i, i... for, like... our son couldn't do it. he is on the spectrum, non-specific autism, more leaning towards asperger's. he doesn't like to interact with humans, he doesn't like children. at all. i think that this has lot to do with noble. a lot to do with my son. >> we'veeen married for five years, we have two children that

were very planned, um. i've... one is four and starting preschool, the other is two, just turned two. and, um, we found ourselves unexpectedly pregnant. um... you know, motherhood is a huge part of my identity, and, uh... it wasn't an easy decision to come here today, but it definitely was necessary.se we just bought a hwe are recovering financially from that, and this was just not the time, not a goodime. >> i grew up catholic, and, um, you kney, they kind of teach you very young-- and i went to catholic school, too-- likeyou know, this... "abortion is wrong, shouldn't do it, um, it's a sin," all that, all that stuff. no one's going down to theic corner storeng up an abortion like they're picking up a pack of cigarettes. it not, it's not that easy

>> you're going to have to lift your dress for me. the gel's going to feel cold. little pressure. okay, six weeks and one day, okay?y. >> (softly): o >> i'm going to wipe this off. you can sit up. >> what was that? >> six weeks and one day. (sniffling) >> you know, i wanted to look at the screen, but i didn't wanto

look, and... i don't know, i feel like being a, a parent already has made iti of an even more difficult thing and even more reason, you know, for some tshouldn't have had this today orbo shouldn't talk it, um... >> why do you think that is? because i'm a mother. i'm not suppose to be doing stuff like this, right? um, you know, "what's oneri more?"t? it's not that simple, though, um, you know. >> i'm a medical doctor, this is what your baby looks like. asi think you ought to at t take it and look at it while you're sitting there in waiting room. >> obenhaus: dr. george isajiw is the pennsylvania director of the catholic medical association. i first met dr. isajiw on the sidewalk outside the clinic where we shot the first "frontline" film 36 years ago. >> and this is a life-size,

ret-size model of a pregnan uterus teneeks from conception. and as a matter of fact, you and i were once this size and even smaller. so that's the first victim in abortion. my conviction is that life begins at conception. and every baby, by the time yout even recognit there's a pregnancy, is already an individual, unique human being that... uh, and then here's where the religion comes in, who is not only unique, butul the ill survive the death. and the reason i'm explaining this to you is because... >> obenhaus: dr. isajiw'ac vism has always been rooted in the counseling of young women to reject abortion. when we first met, he was counseling as many as six women a week. >> this is the result of an abortion at about 11 weeks with this vacuum cleaner-type tube. the baby is literally pulledd apart pped to pieces and killed by that process. >> i don't see how anybody cando hat.

>> i know that when women find out what abortion really does, and what it's all about, there f are ve who really want to do that to their baby, okay? here we have at 14 weeks. and now the main difference is, the baby is bigger, and the skin is becoming thicker, so now the baby's no longer as transparent. >> and that's what he looks like now inside me? w >> right, thatt he looks like-- or she. what were your feelings when you found out that you werena pr? >> oh, i could have hit the ceiling, really. i just wanted to forget about it, and i still do, in a way. >> right, so you obviously were not planning this pregnancy.>> o, it was not planned at all. >> sir, are you, are you the father of the baby, sir? if you're the father of the baby, you have a stake in this. >> i need you to stand over there without harassing anyone, withoubothering anyone. >> wait a minute, harassing is in the eyes of the beholder. i'.not prepared to go to ja i've been in jail over this, but, but... >> okay, do you want to goack to jail? >> i don't think this would stand up in court. >> would you like to go back to

jail? >> do you think this would stand up in court? >> would you ike to test thattheory? >> if it was different circumstances, i would. >> obenhaus: in 1986, dr. isajiw was arrested and cvicted of a felony for trespassing inside the clinic where the first film was shot.th >> a particular time, i don't have the time to get arreed and spend that time i court. >> our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. thkingdom come, thy will b done on earth... >> obenhaus: the first thing you encounter when entering the clinic is e bulletproof glass separating the public areas from the clic itself. (door buzzing) recent years have seen an increase in intimidation of patients and threats against doctors, like dr. perriera, who wasou singleonline on a website run by the group eration rescue. >> i'm not afraid of being sreatened by them, but it framed in reality, there are t peopt are violent toward

abortion providers. yesterday was the anniversary of the murder of dr. george tiller, who was one of the idols in our community. and he was shot in his church while he was an usher on a sunday morning. so many of us think about that, sure, we think about that. that can happen. >> obenhaus: the presence of protesters outside the clinic is a persistent reminder of the threat. >> do you want your baby to die, ma'am? >> they're outside most days that i'm here, they walk up and wn the sidewalk, they ho their signs. >> you'll live with this the rest of your life. >> they yell things at the patients. ev i've n seen them become violent. but everyone who works in this community should be and is aware of the thrt of violence. >> obenhaus: in 1982, when thefi t film was shot, security was light. the waiting room was relaxed and e.felt like a doctor's off the staff wore street clothes. then, the procedure rooms were spare, with a minimum of

oman speaking on p.a.) the clinic today has the look of a hospital. anti-abortion groups in pennsylvaniand 23 other states have pressed for the passage ofi laws that mandate ab clinics operate as "ambulatoryrg al facilities." >> pennsylvania implemented regulations under the ambulatory atsurgical facilities act governs everything from theof widtallways, to where sinks are located, to the hvac systems, to the job descriptions. abortion care providers have come into complice with numerous regulations at great cost, at great financial cost to the women who need abortions, and also it's limited the number of abortion providers in this state. r >> we had to spend o00,000 on improvements, um, that did nothing to improve the health of our patients. >> obenhaus: anti-abortion

activists see this as progress. >> our most recent bill on abortion facilities, uh, restricted supply. it said if you want to operate an abortion facility, you have to meet certain requirements, the same as any other ambulatory surgical facility. and seral of them did not. we went from 22 free-standing abortion facilities down to 14. (people talking in background) >> i'll get you all checked in. >> hello, my name is dr. mercier. pennsylvania requires that we give you the following information before we see you for an abortion procedure. >> obenhaus: like many other states, pennsylvania now requires that doctors read a script to inform women ofat altees to abortion and the potential risks of the procedure.he >> infectiony bleeding, or clots in the uterus needing removal, problems with futurena prie infertility, damage to the cervix, vagina, or uterus, or to other abdominal organs requiring hospitalization or additional surgery. for abortion, these risks are very low. >> obenhaus: pennsylvania was the first state to mandate the meage be delivered 24 hour

this is literally artion. life-or-death decision. and we should be doing whatever wean to, to save mothers a children from abortion. to make women think about it. and we make no apologies for that. >> there is the sense that women simply can't me moral decisions on their own. the state has to intervene and, a tell them what to do. i think it's pure hypocrisy. >> okay. now, as far as getting you scheduled, with that information session, there is a 24-hour waiting period. we're going to review your medical history, and we can get that appointment all set up. >> do you remember the first day of your last normal menstrual..e >>aus: the clinic's call center is open seven days a week, and when we visited, there was a constant flow of incoming calls to schedule abortions. >> are you looking to do the medical abortion by pillr the surgical procedure? >> a medical abortion procedurer issimilar to inducing a miscarriage. um, it is safe for women to do up to about ten weeks of their

pregnancy. so do you have any questio before we get you started here? >> no. >> a great procedure for women who want to feel like they have control over the procedure, whoo wantust have everything happen in the privacy of their own home. >> obenhaus: the drug mifepristone ru486 was approved by the fda in 2000. >> we'll have you do the first pill. >> "medical abortions" now account for roughly a third of all abortions in pennsylvania. >> this is the first pill you're going to take. this is the one called the mifepristone. this is the stuff that makes the pregnancy stop growing and star to unattacttle bit from the uterus. it gets the process started. >> okay. >> so you swallow that down like a regular pill. >> okay.>> 4 hours later, she takes another pill called misoprostol that helps to induce the cramping and the bleeding that the pregnancy tissue oherdy push uterus. >> this is the misoprostol medicine, gives you a little bit of the miscarriage symptoms. >> okay. >> okay? and do you have yoap follow-up intment made? >> i do. >> okay, in a week or two? >> yes. >> okay. that's really..

important, becau >> what i hope i feel is a sense of peace not only with myself and in the decision at i've made, but also a sense of peaceb with these tngs that i've chosen not to bring into the world. "thank you for choosing me, and i'm honored to be given this gift of life, and also i, i can't do it right now. i can't accept that mantle in terms of the other lives that i'm taking care of and i'm responsible for." >> i think i'm always going to feel a little bit of guilt, but we have to feel comfortable with the decision we made. >> i knoi'll definitely be sad, um, because if things had just been a little bit different, you kno maybe this wouldn't have happened today. but, you know, i'm confident in the decision we made. >> this is the medication m going to have you swallowtone, this with a small sip of water. or as much of a sip of water as

you want. okay. so that's thone that starts the abortion process. >> holy mary, mother of god, pray for us sinners... >> obenhaus: dr. monique ruberu is an obstetrician-gynecologist who frequently protests on the streets outside the women's center. >> the destruction of any life is a definite affront to god. so when an abortion takes place, and an innocent life that has not done any harm to anybody is destroyed, i believe that that is one of the greatest sadnesses of god, but it pleases the devi i'm an ob-gyn physician, sir. she deserves to have options. i know she feels boxed in, i know you guys feel like you have to do th.

we can help her. pl it used to be that p tried to be present on the killing days, the days when the surgical abortions were known to happen in the abortion centers. buru486 pill has completel changed the landscape ofti ab. and it really necessitates that somebody is present outside of these abortion centers every single day, every hour that they are open.we >> setie, if you took the abortion pill, we can reverse it. you have 72 hours, honey. they don't want me to talk to you, but this is information that can help you. you deserve to know all of the options, okay? >> obenhaus: dr. ruberu is part of a network of doctors who cite anecdotal evidence to support the controversial o practicef prescribing the hormone progesterone to reverse the effects of ru486. >> i think there's only maybe area that volunteered for thatia hotline so far. so they call the hotline, and then you get the, the woman's history, and you don't even have to see her.nt

you calltheir pharmacy, and you get them these high doses of progesterone, which are easily available. >> the babies that are saved from the ru486 do awesome, and ey don't have any proble following, as far as we know. we can help you. if you took the abortion pill, we can reverse it. and we've been so blessed. in my office alone, we've had three reversals. it's so nice to e at the end of the road, those moms are so grateful and, um, so happy that they chose to reverse. >> and would you like to know how far you are today? >> mm-hmm. >> okay. okay, i'm dating at nine weeks and e day. >> okay. >> i'm grateful that i'm getting this taken care of. if i wasn't, i would be at home, you know, trying to... stresd out trying to figure out what my next move is or, what my next plan is. so it is, it is a relief,

because i was stressed out before i walked in the door this morning. >> good morning. i'm dr. liveright, nice to meet you. >> you, too. >> any questions, concerns about anything today? >> no. >> about three minutes start to finish, okay? >> mm-hmm. >> this is the last part of ther consent form the already reviewed with you. i just need your signature and date here on the top line. >> oy. >> obenhaus: shaharra chose to to have a surgical abortion under i. sedation. >> you mig feel a little warm feeling going through your i.v. si, okay? it's normal, and it will go away. >> obenhaus: i.v. sedation was not an option for patients he atlinic where the first film was shot. >> easy does it. just breathe nice and slow. lots of cramps. >> obenhaus: patients then were awake, and the procedure wasun mfortable, even painful. >> you're drifting off to sleep, okay? take some nice, big, deep breaths. >> obenhaus: most patients opt to have a surgical procedure.

like shaharra, they want to leave the clinic with the abortion behind them. >> surgical abortion is incredibly safe.ma the is in stirrups. we do a bimanual exam to feel the positioning the uterus. i place the speculum, clean off small clip on the top of the cervix to straighten out the uterine canal. the second part of the procedure is dilating the cervix, which is using instruments to gently open the entry into the uterus, and then removing the pregnancy tissue using suction. (sucking, vacuum whirring) s it takesomewhere between two and fiveinutes. complications are incredibly rare. (people talking indistinctly) >> one of the most importantfe components of sa with abortion procedures is making

sure that all of the pregnancy tissue has been removed from the uterus. the tissue is taken to a special room within the clinic.ns it is ri off and it's looked at in a special dish with a little backlight it that lets us confirm that we are seeing all the tissue that woulbe expected for the gestational age of the pregnancy. and that lets us know that tre weren't any complications. >> obenhaus: the gestational ag of this fetus nine weeks and one day. >> up to nine to ten weeks, it's just a small little piece of translucent sac tissue with nothing that looks recognizabl as any kind of fetal parts. after that, you do see, um, small bits of tissue that are recognizable as fetal tissue.s >> forgive ur sins, save us f from theires of hell, lead allso s to heaven. ♪ bless us, oh, lord, hear our cry for justice ♪ g♪ bless us, oh, lord, o give us this day our daily bread... >> obenhaus: dr. isajiw introduced me to pat stanton.co

pas from a family of pro-life activists. in the 1980s, hilate father organized the protests that take place every saturday outside the philadelphia women's center. y >> moms, we can help.r change yound, we're out it's barbaric to chop up, put it in a little canister, take it out, and count the pieces. that's what they have to do. who's ing this? what kind of world have we entered into where we do this to our children? >> ♪ sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble ♪ >> predominantly, the protesters are older white males, and the patients are young women. >> obenhaus: lynne molter coordinates the volunteers whont escort womenthe clinic. >> i don't understand why oldera white men think itropriate for them to be, um, standing at

a clinic where young women come for health care, be talking to them, interacting with them, sometimes touching them. >> please, don't do this. the baby's heart is already beating. >> what sometimes happens is, the women will get there and freeze. >> real help. >> and realize what it is that. they're walking in the magnitude and the yelling cam.be very upsetting to the >> mercy! i think it's a spiritual battle, myself. it's between us and satan. uh, and i think when we, uh, do our best to follow our lord and the ten commandments, we will conquer and, and bring others to our side in a loving manner. this is life, that's death. we're here to help you. >> obenhaus: stanton often tries to speak to the men who accompany women to the clinic. >> pray for strength and pray for wisdom. if there's any chance that this girl can come out of there, lord, let it happen, let it be a miracle. let this baby grow up to be a great man.

usask this in your name, j amen. >> my girl just said the only way she's walking out of there is if she says that they'rein and i'm, like, "what's the difference between one and two?" >> yeah, that doesn't make any logical sense. >> but, i mean, what the hell, like, i just can't. i don't want to make it seem like...m controlling her, >> christian, sometimes all they need is a word from you. they got to feel that the man'se behind100%. >> how many kids you got? >> nine. >> nine? >> i'd go in there and give it one more shot, and bring a couple of other women out, brother. >> obenhaus: christian did go back into the clinic, but he told us later that his girlfriend went ahead with the abtion. >> so we know that we just have to stay the course. and we're going to be aten up and, and have many, uh, many failures. but we have to continue. so i would say perseverance has been a virtue that's instilled by our faith. you can't be a part-time christian and fight a full-time devil. >> obenhaus: the clearest symbol of today's anti-abortion movent is the crisis preganc center.

there were only a few operating in the early 1980s. now there are thousands across the count. >> they're very well-connected, and they'rvery well-funded. their whole existence is to persuade women who go there not to have abortions. and, um, it, it ranges from gentle persuasion to fairly coercive persuasion. >> obenhaus: there are as many as 150 in pennsylvania, many locatenear abortion clinics. but unlike abortion clinics, th are not required to be licensed by the state. >> the crisis pregnancy centeris beautiful phase of the pro-life movement that offers real help and hope for women in isis pregnancies. uh, we realize, if we're ever going to outlaw abortion, that we have to be able to help women who, who feel that's their only alternative. and we've provided an answer, "no, that's not your only alternative." and it has literally saved e thousands of livry year in >> obenhaus: amnion issis

pregnancy center that caters to low-income women. >> the mission of amnion is really to serve, um, anybody in an unplanned pregnancy. if someone is calling to schedule an abortioni will tell them that we don't perform abortions here, because i want to be truthful with them right up front. um, but i always say to y them, "b've called the right place," because i want them to know that right away, that we do havservices for them. is to offer counselingapproach parenting classes, clothing, diapers, and pregnancy testing-- all for free. >> thank you. you can have a seat. so have you already tested at me? to see if you were pregnant? >> yeah, i did last, um, friday. >> okay, what did you get? >> oh, it was a negative, but my period is late, so i don't know. >> mm-hmm. we offer pregnancy testing, but we don't provide contraception here.

we don't want people engaging in behavior that's risky to them emotionally, um, and physically. want to encourage them make better choices with their behavior. >> we realize that promiscuity drives abortion, so therefore separt of our, our great cs promoting the chastity message. contraception takes away a natural barrier to promiscty, and promiscuity is what drives abortion. >> all right, so this paper isu just saying yowere here today for a pregnancy test, and it was negati, okay? >> mm-hmm.an >> so either that you're not pregnant, or you are pregnant, but it's too early to tell. now, you would still be pretty early. so if you haven't gotten your wperiod when you come bacll retest you. >> andriana, come on back. >> obenhaus: andriana is 22 with an eight-month-old daughte >> your test is coming up positive, congratulation tell me hoyou're feeling about your pregnancy. >> i'm fin >> yeah? were you trying to get pregnant? >> no. >> okay.

so it wasn't planned, but it's okay. >> your mom, what does she have to say about it? is she happy for you? >> she was not happy. >> was not happy, okay.ul >> we use asound as a tool, uh, for helping our clients, uh, choose life. >> so you're going to be able to look up here and see everything, we're doinkay? we set up a big screen up on the wall, so that they can look up and see what's going on inside their uterus and how the baby's growing. >> so we want to seehe baby inside your uterus. >> (fussing) >> and then we want to measurew and see r along you are, okay? (baby babbling) now, did i do your ultrasound with her? >> yeah. >> she's talking to us. she sa, "that's my brother or sister." okay, we have eight weeks, one day, plus or minus six here. andriana, this is your baby this flickering here is the heart beating.

you see that? >> that beating heart. it's hard to then, you know, deny that there's, um, there's a baby. it's not, it's not just tissue there. it's not something that's easily, um, disposedf. >> and i'm going to measure the body length agaihere. the women who are happy that they're pregnant or on thef fence, a lotmes they're just really surprised. you can see it in their face that there is a, a joyful reaction. some womenho are maybe considering abortion are, are kind of, um... not thrilled. you know, they might be looking, and it might bring up a lot of complex feelings for them.ve i ffered to pray with women, and i will do that if i feel like they're open to that. um, and most of the time, they've said yes. (chuckles)up i have only had a of people who have said no. >> thank you.ur pictures. >> you're welcome.he >> that's really we have

an opportunity to form a show them that we careient, to them on all those different levels. "we care about you as a person, as a spiritual person, and as a person with an eternal soul, and we want to be able to really show you that you're loved here.">> fussing) >> obenhaus: the staff at amnion counsels against abortion, based on their christian faith. we met one woman who was unpersuaded and came to the philadelphia women's center. skye is 23 years old, and this is her first pregnancy.us >> and i jt need to confirm that you're here for abortion services today, obviously. >> mm-hmm. >> you're confident in your decision to terminate your pregnay? >> mm-hmm. >> no one is forcing you to terminate your pregnancy today? >> nope. >> i went to amnion pregnancy center. um, it's in upper darb >> just breathe normally. >> t services that they provide are free. the nurse did, though, say to me, like, "are you sure you owdon't want to just, you

put it up for adoption?" ke, she was kind of, like, pro-life. (chuckles) "listen, you know you can comeh back wur boyfriend. we can talk about different we can do another ultr again, and then he can look at the baby, as well, maybe change his mind wh that." i'm just, like, "no, no, let me just get this over with. i'll, i'll deal with the depression or sadness later." >> there you go. >> thank you. >> you're welcome, and y can go ahead and swallow that. >> i'm going to be upset about it for a little bit.ba i'm going to pray, py every single night now. i just felt like i was a p horribson for deciding to actually go through with an abortion, kill a human being, even though it was only, like, an embryo. so that was, that was sad, butba i got to g to work. >> obenhaus: skye earns less than $300 a week. like other women we met at the

clinic, she struggles to support herself. these women no longer n. ey are homeless. most collect some form of public assistance. they are living at mothers' homn pper darby, pennsylvania. it's a shelter for pregnantse once a convent.n what was >> hi, how're you doing today? okay, very good. >> obenhaus: it was founded in 1991 by a group led by dr. isajiw. >> being able to promise them a place to live was an extremely powerful tool. that gave them the courage to choose life.he >> obenhaus: m' home can house up to 20 women. they can stay while pregnant and for six months after theyr. deli >> the common circumstance that brings the majority of our residents here is trauma. there's abuse. a there't of domestic violence. there's drug addiction. st, there's trauma that's

overflowing from childhood, t thint never heal, disconnected families. our goal is to support those women who, in spite of their circumstances, still want to give birth to these babies. when women come in for the interview, they've already made the decision that they want to keep their baby. a they are just looking fofe place. where are you living? >> um, some guy let me stay at his hoe, he said i had until today. >> today is your deadline? >> yes. >> all right. with the father of youchild?on >> no. >> okay. >> i just want to get my kids home.ou >>ant to get your kids home. >> my oldest daughter has cerebral palsy. myoungest stays with my au in connecticut. >> okay. >> they're able to come home, i just don't have a home. >> okay. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. (shushing) >> once you have the baby, a lot

of people forget about you. she can't ise that baby if she's not healthy mentally and physically. so there's no sense in ending it there. like, yes, everyone can say theye pro-life, but you have to, to put that into, like, motion.ve you o help the woman after she has the baby. >> you're tired. >> often the criticism that is leveled is that we're onlyn interested in the,e baby in the womb and only helping the woman until the baby left the womb, the baby was, uh, delivered, and after that, uh, uh, we, we weren't interested in hewomen. but that is not the case. >> how're you doing, pat? >> obenhaus: before he started mothers' home, dr. isajiw and his wife invited young, pregnant women to live in their own home. anybody else who'd like coffee? >> obenhaus: this is t scene in 1982. >> we found in the counseling that women were saying, "i don't really want an abortion. but if ion't have an abortion, my husband will, will leave me, or he'll kick me out, or my parents will kick me out."

>> i went in to see dr. isajiwuesday, um, and i talked to him for, like, and i told him all about it. like, you know, at everything that was happening. and, like, then he told me.. about how if i, if i were have... if i were to have an abortion, how the abortion would be. (stutters): ...performed. it, like, a salt injectionwo d be injected into my stomach, and, like, the baby would slowly die inside me, like, skin would be burning away. so i sd, "i'm just going to go ahead with the pregnancy, and, uh, i'll come live with you, so i can get the proper care and all." >> obenhaus: nancy decided to puher baby up for adoption >> because, um, we're not... we feel... i feel, anyway, that we'rnot ready to have kids yet, because we're not financially sound. i want to be... when i have my kids, i want to be financially sod. >> then we're going to start planning on having children the proper way. we don't want to bring unwanted

children into the world and have them abused like other children are. we want to grow... we want tois our children up right. >> not like our parents. we both come from broken homes, and i don't want my ki raised in, had... i don't want to feel that i'm going to ha my kids brought up, and me and nancy are going to split up. i don't want to feel that way.ca >>e me and larry, we're not going to split up. we're going to be together i'm so glad i didn't get an abortion. i am.or >> okay, readyrace? >> mm-hmm. bless us, oh lord, for these... about to receive from we are bounty, through christ our lord. amen. >> 38 women over a period of 15 years, high school studes and college students. over time, we were getting a dierent kind of woman. you know, often we were getting, uh, somebody who was addicted. sometimes we were getting, uh, people who had h.i.v. and other problems, was a little more tension in ter of trying to house them in private homes. and then the whole movement

throughout theountry to create maternity homes was very important. hey. (people talking in background) >> obenhaus: there are now 17 similar homes in the philadelphia area. many were founded by people like dr. isajiw, who opposeex premarital >> when i was a teenager, if you had sex with a girl, if she got prnant, you're, you're the father, you're responsible for not only the baby, but her, for the rest of your life, orre yooing to have to marry her. i would think if we still had all the nuns, and we still had the teaching the way it was,'d ave fewer girls needing housing, because they wouldn't be getting pregnant. obenhaus: it's not a vi shared by the residents we met. what many dohare with dr. isajiw is his view on abortion.y eject it. and for some, it is a choice they've now made over and over agn. >> i was just kind of going crazy, like, "no, i don't want to be pregnant no more, no more babies." but i don't believe in

abortionso... i come from a big family. i think babies are a blessing. that's why i have all eit of mines.th and i gues's just how my family is. don't none of my family believe in it, like, abortions. >> obenhaus: two of rosie's children live with her sister,n five arester care. >> i need a big house; i have a lot of kids. (chuckles) s iety has allowed women to say, "it's okay to be a single mother to multiple children." so it's very hard to blame her for it when she doesn't know anr be maybe her mother was that way. uh, the whole neighborhood was that way. this is what's happened to our society. >> his name is dominicayceer. he was premature, like, a high-risk thing. problem.reviously had a drug i'm doing way better than i have. i did good before, but, uh, i've done, i've done worse. a shelter may not be the best thing in everybody's mind,

but it helped us a lot, so... i have four, four babies. yep, two girls and two boys. they live in western pennsylvania. my aunt has them. ... so they're good. but they do call her mommy. so i was offended at first, but then i understood, like, they noneeded a mommy, and i wa proving capable of doing that at the time, so... now we're trying again. he's pretty special. and nobody taking this one. (chuckling) >> they may not have been able to get it right the first time or the second time or the third or the fourth. but this is another chance. dad, we partied a lot together. and we were both sent to prison, um, when i was, like

eight months pregnant with her. when i got out, i was homeless. i was literally homeless.ca i lived out of mfor, like, a week. >> there we go. aw. >> (trinity whimpering) >> i know, it's okay, it's just water. >> she has a rare, um, condition called septo-optic dysplasia. it affects the hormones in her body, and then her optic nerves are also affected.n it'snormality in her brain. i didn't know for four mons i wapregnant. i was still on birth ctrol. and i was drinking, like, i was smoking, like, living, like, the fast life. then lo and behold, there was a little heartbeat. and that's when they told me how far i was. um, was going to go and... abort her, but i was literally in the chair, about to get it

done, and, like, i had to leave. i got up, and i walked out, and i said, "i cannot kill my baby." so i just accepted that t whatever was meabe would be. so just one day at a time, and i'm prepared for wtever can happen with her. >> the stigma that society says about single mothers who are poor, "they're a drain on the finances of the community, they've made mistakes, these children are mistakes, why do we have to takeare of them? they should give their children to other people." they've been even advised to there's nothing that they can give to a child. but every single woman that comes through that door, that'sh r desire, to give their child a better chance at life. ♪ >> obenhaus: mothers' home lacks e resources to follow residents after they leave. the obvis question of what

happens to the women and their children goes unanswered. mercy on their face! >> hail mary, full of grace. >> mom, we can help you. (woman talking on p.a.) >> obenhau christine and micah made what was for them a very difficult decision. >> okay, i love you, thank you.o nhaus: they chose to go ahead with the abortion. ♪ >> how're you doing today?rv s? >> no, no, i'm not nervous. s e patients are, like, "i don't want to be doing this, but it is the right choice for me." and it's okay to feel those emotions. it's okay.t i try to just em know it is okay. doesn't mean they shouldn't do only they know what they should do. >> nice, slow, deep breaths, a little oxygen. >> obenhaus: "only they know what they should do." it's a statement i heard 36 years ago and continue to hear

repeated today. >> i'm almost done with the dilation. >> i respect people that say abortion is wrong, but people have abortions. people have babies. life is complicated. (equipment whirring) >> all right, we're all done. that's it. ♪ >> are you ready for me?>> am. >> women are not vessels for just carrying pregnancies. they are full human beings who deserve to have, um, control of their lives, and being able to choose whether you're going to continue with a pregnancy or not is a life-changing thing.

>> love you. >> ♪ we are the light of the world ♪ s ♪ may our ligne before all ♪ >> obenhaus: but the anti-abortion forces i met here in pennsylvania are unmoved bygu any nt for abortion. they are more organized, more dedicated, and even more uncompromising than they were 36 yes ago. they are committed to one goal: ending abortion, no matter how long it takes. >> it's going to be brutal and bloody. and we'ronly in the second or third round of this fight. this fight is going to be multigenerational, just as the fight against slavery was. o and it'll successors that'll eventually win this fight. i'm not predicting the quick and easy victory, but we, we will at some point win. >> obenhaus: the end of the battle over abortion, here innn lvania and everywhere

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