captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: hurricane dorian waks havoc on the bahamas. we hear from the islands, as the massive storm moves closer to the u.s. mainland. then, what is driving migrants? amna nawaz sits down with the acting secreta of the department of homeland security following visit to el salvador. plus, on the ground in afghanistan. how a massive bombing in kabul complicates u.s. plans for troop withdrawal. and, grand design. new exhibition of influential artist alexander girard's work t aimsdisplay his ability to meld sleek modernism with folk art. >> alexander girard liked toot

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>> bnsf railway. of these institutions:g support >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting.an by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: hurricane dorian is ravaging t a bahamas.fter the storm began swirlinglowly cler to the u.s. mainland today. it has lost some of its punch, akt left utter ruin in its john yang has been watching, from jacksonville, florida. >> yang: after hurricane dorian residents woke up find their, homes surrounded by floodwats. some had to flee through chest- high waters.

dorian's eye hovered over the northernmost island, grand bahama, for more than 20 hours, bringing almost total devastation. >> we're getting a lot of distress calls. persons needing rescued--in neto be rescued, but we cannot get to them right now. as you can tell, we are going to need a lot-- a lot of support, er.er this hurricane is >> yang: torrential rain inundated homes, and submeed the grand bahama airport under six feet of water. dorian weakened to a category 2 storm this morning, as winds dipped below 110 miles an hour. forecasters say dorian is nowmo ng dangerously close to the u.s. eastern seaboard, running parallel to the florida coast through tomorrow evening, and then expected to continue north toward georgia and south expected to remain offshore, heavy rains, strong winds, and dangeroustorm surges are pected to reach land.

more than two million eoople in floria and south carolina have been warned to evacuate. >> ouressage for today is this: this is a very serious storm, and a wesrn shift that is towards land of just a few miles could bring ormous damage to our state. so we want everyone to heed the warning. d the best thing to do is, is to be safe. don't be sorry. be safe, leave. >> yang: some parts of the florida coast began feel some the storm's wrath early this morn outer rain bands and winds sent waves crashing on ore. but in other areas, sunshine and surf luredeople outdoors. residents spent the day outside, enjoying beautiful weather and the high surf. given the dire forecasts beginning last week, some took the latest warnings in stride. >> just another storm. i'm from atlantic city, new jersey, and we always have storms and all that, you know. just another storm to me. doesn't bother me. >> yang: others were on edge.

>> at one point, it was almost supposed to be a direct hit here. , we were really geared up for the worst of the worst, you know. it went from being at a really, elevatnd of antsy, scared moment, to, you know, being able to relax a little more, but at toe same time, wanting it o through so we can get back to our normal lives. >> yang: it's that uncertainty that local emergency workers are tryi to address. linda stoughton is the director of emergency management at st. john's county, just tside jacksonville. >> we just want them to stay vigilant this time. do we worry about them saying, "well, it may not be this level of storm?" yes, we do worry about tt. >> yang: her team is monitoring the storm's path, and urging people to remain patient as it continues to change. >> there is a level of patience that comes with this. the storm was stationary, moving at one mile per hour, back to moving one mile per hour. so the storm is in charge of its timeline. we have to flex to that timeline

but be ready when it does arrive and take care of this, our home. >> yang: winds started picking up at the coastal city ofin st. auguthis morning. the mayor, tracy upchurch, saido the response to the hurricane had been efficient. >> it's very hard to predict what's going to happen, and the timing is very confusing as to when we will feel the effects. we've had beautiful weather, that's why i've been wearing sunglasses, 's been sunny al day until just this moment. so keeping people focused, making sure they don't become complacent. >> yang: he warned residents not to assume they're in the clear. "food" to 80100 right now in st. augustine we're beginning to feel the effects of the duter bands rian. the wind has picked up. the skies are threatening. we've had some rain squalls. everyone here, folks are hoping that dorian stays far enough off will behat the damag limited to beach erosion along the coastal areas.n but just case, folks have boarded up homes, stores, and shop fronts all along the

waterfront here in st. augustine. judy? >> woodruff: john, we can see the wind has picked up. there you told us you have been talking to officials and people in florida, rescue efforts in the bahamas. tell us what you've learned about rnat. >> well, the coast guard isha workin in hand with a c-130 took off from the coast guard station in clearwater. th's on the gulf side. it flew to andros island. it was filled with medical personnel and medical suposplie. ansland is also where the coast guard has established a base of operations for helicopters for search-and-rescue operations. already 19 people have beee n evacuated from msh harbor hospital in the northern bahamas and flowu,to nashe capital, where damage has been very light. >> woodruff: and we know they were waiting to get in theere. and john, whaabout private relief agencies? what are you learning about what they're able to do now?

>> well, our producers have been lking to amber of private relief agencies. they're organizing. they're getting together. they're planning to begin as soon as tomorrow pying splies to nassau, but the challenge is getting it to where it's needed in the outer islands, because airports are still underwater, and it's very difficult to reach those areas, but they will be using nassau as a staging ar. >> woodruff: . >> yang: reporting for us from florida where they are still awaiting the brunt of this storm. thank yo john. as we have seen, the damage from dorian in the bahamas appears catastrophic. ehef and restauranteur j andres is there with his nonprofit organization, world central kitchen, which feeds those in need after disasters. he and his group served meals in puerto rico after hurricane maria. i spoke to him by phone from nassau, the capital of thel

bahamas, earlier today.nk chef andres, tou very much for talking us with. first of all, tell us, when did you get to the bahamas? where are you? >> we got to the bahamas three days ago. we came to nassau, the capital of the bahamas. we were six people, and we hav one vere simple mission, to be ready to be near the local government, the government of the bahamas, bema, the fa of the bahamas, and to start learning and getting ready fo ar the response. >> woodruff: and what do you have in the way of supplies of food and equiplnt that wil need is?u to serve whatever the >> we've been getting a lot of help from the private sector, ao well. we are here in the resort of atlantis. we happen to have here a restaurant in atlantis. they have been giving us all the help we can get.

theer gent... the island literally was underwater. this is like the caribbean ocean, the caribbean sea took over the island. so we need to think totally with a very open mind. so we have a ship that will come from fort lauderdale hefully by tomorrow, and we have another ship he in nassau. we took very g eighters that will bring a lot of food we're going to be neing to cook the. we will bring big pots of food, and we'll create if necessa what will be a temporary kit tcn in each island. at the begiing we're also going to be cooking from here from nassau and probably be bringing the food byic helopter in the early days a by boat daily until we are able to finally be cooking in those two islands. buve been making sandwiches for the last two days, because

the sandwicheare almost like our perfect food. theygre liht and we can bring many thousands in helicopters and trucks. what happens right now, youtoeed nderstand everybody is on rescue mission. it's a lot of people that they are on the island alone in their homes surrounded by wat. >> woodruff: you told us you have been going to the bahamas for a longvime. have you seen anything like this? >> everything we see on the videos, everything we see on the photos is like nothing wot've ever seen. we need to understand thos,se to islahey are not very big. they are very narrow islands, so they are so narrow and water is coming everywhere. we saw videos where there are literally like hundreds of homes in the middle of the caribbean tesea with only on the horizon. so the situation, many people di't have anywhere to be safe.

the water was so hit h thaeven some of the shelters became use less. so we know that in the hospital it's not only the hospital, but rary shelter fohur reds if not thousands of people some again, the situation is hard and the next days aree going toitical to be able to do a very quie ck response all the search missions will be finished in the next two or i three days. >> woodruff: last thing, chef andres, what can people do who are listening to this interview right now do, how can they help? >> well,i'mericans, anm so proud mylf now as anlf immigrant, i can say i am an american, too, so proud that the u.s. is moving as quick as they could. and they've been already doing nice work. i know alreadyth e u.s. aid is here ithe bahamas alsready to bng theirexpertise. so this is a way already the american people through these i know many ngos will be

moving. m t i'm going to be telling people is always the same. i know a loof people are goitong e requesting money. make sure that ifou y donate money, make sure it's the right organization, that they aro really doingk on the ground. >> woodruff: chef chef jose canseco, thank you very much for we wish you the very best with everything you're trying to do in this horrible situation.nk >> well, tou very much, >> woodruff: and let's look at the latest with where dorian is headed, and some perspective ons just how dting a hurricane this was for the bahamas. ken graham is the director ofna thonal hurricaneenter. kengraham, thank you for joining us. give us the latest information you have on dorian. judy, it's still moving to the north. i was stationary over th wmthts for so long, it was a devastating situation. it's bad enough to get hit by a

cat 5 hurricane, so it's even worse to have it juit there. we started to see it move at t 1mph aen 5mph. it's still a big impact for florida and the carolinas in time. >> woodruff: how unusual is it that this storm has been sitting in one place and staying thre for so long? >> yeah, it's presentry rare fot a storthisrong to do that. it happens on occasion, but it doesn't happen too oten, especially a strong one like this. when you losall those steering currents, there's nothing to steer this and it just parks and waits for the xt system toth steer, that's a devastating situation. think about 24, 30 hours of water.ry 5 winds and battering a devastating situation for the bahamas. >> woodruff: before i ask you about the hamas, tell us whatut you know abor what you can hererpret as you look at this hurricane may go next. >> looking at that forecast, with time right along the coast.

it's ineresting, because the core winds have creasedug thut the day, but they have expanded. we'vseen the winds, the tropical storm force winds go from about 120 miles from the center all the way to 175 miles from the center. so much larger. with time moving ever so sowly, 2:00 p.m. on wednesday, still off the florida coast, and by the time you ge into 2:00 p.m. thursday, it does speed up, and we have it off the south carolina coast and also on friday still moving as a s huicane. so right along the coast of southarolina, north carolina, so still some impacts with storm rainfall for therolinas. >> woodruff: so important for everybody to pay attention toth alon east coast. but ken, i want to bring you back to the bahamas. it looks as if it's been catastrophic the damage there. >> yeah, making landfall, you think about 180mph winds, even higher. some of the gusts over 20ph, devastating. u think about the surge of up to 23 feet, 30 inches of rain, and the winds batteri the

coastline for that long. absolutely devastating situation. life-threatening situation so when we started seeing that move northward today, it's just lief that we can ge least the core winds away from the island. >> wdruff: you said it's unusual for a storm to sit this long in one place. are those conditions thaset we e likely to see again, are these the kinds o atmospheric conditions that can repeat themselves? >> yeah, you can. you go back in history, you can safind others who did thme thing. i can think of large storms, florence moving so slowly. i go back to betsy in 1965. you know, very strong major hurr.ane slowing down, as we so you can find it in history. when you lose those steteering currents, it's a dngerous situation. you hope they're open over the open waters, but when you're other land, that's where you get the devaufation. >> woo you do have to look at history when you're >> yeah, you do. hurricane every e of them are so different. ofey bring different types

impacts. if you think about this bringing the devastation of the bahamas and then going into the future with this path, an you start seeing the storm surge, this is tually our storm surge forecast for the future all the o georgiaflorida t and the carolinas and even inland. you get to north carolina, you can see some of the storm surge >> woodruff: well, paying close attention, and i know everyone there at the hurricanas center isell. ken graham, the dihector of te national hurricane center, thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, a new tropical storm, fernand, has formed in the gulf of mexico. it has sustained winds of 40 miles an hour, and moving toward northeastern mexico. forecasters expect it to strethen before making landfall. britain's prime minister, boris johnson, announced this evening he will call for a new

itgeneral election over br that came afver he lost a crucial showdown vote to opponents of leaving european union without a formal he also lost his w majority in parliament. party leader jeremynion labour lashed out at johnson's ideas in the use of commons. >> he isn't winning friends in europe, he losing friends at home. this is a government with no mandate, no morada and, as of no majority. the attack on our democracy, in order to force through a disastrous no-deal brexit, is unprecedented, anti-demotiatic and uncotional. >> woodruff: in all, johnson's ruling conservatives voted against him today. he will still need a two-thirds majority in parliament to set an early election. the current deadline for britain to leave the e.u. is october 31. it now appears theunman who

killed seven people around odessa, texas on saturday bought his assault-style weapon in ae privle. news accounts today say that let him avoid a federal background check, which had blocked him once already, reportedly for mental health reasons. that it will stop sellingnced ammunition for military-stylewe ons and handguns. we will return to the texasng shoo later in the program. officials in southern california now say 34 people are presumed and sank on mondayboat burned the coast guard called off the .search for survivors tod divers have recovered 20 bodies, and they kept looking for 14 others. the sheriff said all the victims were trapped bheow deck. >> that does appear to be exactly what happened. that there... there stairwell to get down the main was an escape hatch, and itthere would appear as though both of

those were blocked by fire. >> woodruff: five of the six crew members aboard survived by jumping into the water when the flames started. there is still no word on what started the fire. in afghanistan, the death toll rose to at least 16,ith 119 wounded, after a taliban suicide bombing in kabul on monday. rescue workers searched today amid wreckage and burned-out vehicles. the blast targeted the city's "green village," where international aid groups are located. the taliban said that it carried out the attack to show strengths as peace tith the s. reach an apparent climax. we will have a detailed report from kabul, later in the program. united nations investigators sah u.s., britain, and france may be complicit in war crimesen in yt a u.n. repday found that the three nations are enabling a saudi military coalition to kill civilians by air strikes and starvation.

the investigators also faulted shiite rebels, aligned withan for shelling cities andd using chldiers. >> woodruff: back in this country, a panel of north carolina judges rejected state legislative district maps. the ruling said that majority republicans drew lines to elect a maximum number of g.o.p. candidates, and violatedmohe rights of ats. the u.s. supreme court ruled in junehat federal courts have say in political gerrymandering cases. today's state court ruling is expected to be appealed. and,all street started the week with a sell-off. it began after factory activity dropped for the first time indr three years, and the latest u.s. and chinese tariffs took hold on sunday. the dow jones industrial averagp lost 2nts to close at 26,118. the nasdaq fell 88 points, and the s&p 500 slipped 20. still to come on the newshour: we discuss hurricane dorian and

immigration with the acting secretary of homeland security. afghanistan's capital complicates plans for the withdrawal of u.s. troops. the latest mass shooting in ths. rompts renewed calls to reduce gun violence. g plus, inside a new artisttion of the work o and designer alexander girard. >> woodruff: we return to our top story, as hurricane dorianut threatens the astern u.s. coasts. amna nawaz sits wn with an official whose department is charged with watching the storm closely and preparing for its afrmath. >> nawaz: thanks, judy. with mnow is acting secretary of homeland security kevin mcaleenan. mr. secretary, welcoou to the

news >> thanks. good to be with you, all that. >> nawaz: you have been receiving regular updates on the path of hurricane dorian. what's important for people to know aboe what we coulde in the coming hours and days. >> sure. i just came over from fema headquarters where the national rer onse coordination senas fully active with over 200 professionals monitoring every aspect of ths situation with this very powerful storm. to remember here ien if we thing don't expect it to make landfall nowndn florida, this is still a very dangerous storm. it's a triple threat. we've got the wind field actually expanding. even though the wind speed has come down a little bit. we have the storm sur going to be significant all along theco tline, and it's also going to be a prolonged rain event. the warnings of emergencyhee manage. professionals at the state and local level to, evcuate if they're in a mandatory evacuation area and to prepare for potential a prolonged impact from the storm. st you're saying the fact it's been downgraded a category 2, does that does not mean it will be less dangerous for people ino itstential path. >> that's right. we have 27 counties under

mandatory evacuation orders in four states that are expect d to be mfected by tis storm. that's almost six million people that a in the past, and they need to be listening to dmergency managers watching the storm closely a having their preparation, their food, water, medicine, od, everything on hand to weather a potential prolonged event. this storm could still make landfall up the coast, it's a catery 2, 110mph winds. >> nawaz: it could change >> of course. point, too? if it comes off track to the west, it could be a different experience. >> nawaz: people have been they're calling itisis ofes. epic proportions there. can you expect similar derstation or destruction >> i don't think so. ps ken graham from the national hurrican center ined, that storm sat over two of the northern islands of the bahamas at 180mph winds for 24 to 36 hours. with very little movent. jst absolutely devastating those pictures. today with the administrator of the u.s. agency for

international development which gn disastehe for assistance the make sure they have everything they need from the department of homeland security. waif we can support in an you already see coast guard. they're there making rescues and they've already life-flighted a number of people to safety in the fit few hours, as soon as they could get in with the wind speed. we will contue to try the support our neighbors in the bahamas. >> nawaz: i want to ask about your level of preparedness. after huricane maria i 2017, fema came under fire for lack of response. the acting administrator later said you were short-handed. you have said you have 3,000 people deployed in advance of is that enough?n's arr >> it's even more. i spent the last four days at fema headquarters getting the briefings and hearing from the state and local emergency managers on their level of resourcing. st to give you a cople of nap shots of the level of preparedness and response new york florida alone, there are 17,000 professionals from the power and energy industry rea gy

t electricity back on after the storm coming from 36 states der mual aid agreements. there's 5,000 national guard troops that have already been u calland are on duty in the four affected states. of course, there's a huge statec and locpacity that's fully engaged. so the fema coordination of support and the predeployment of supplies that 3,000 people tha are engaged. that's part of the overall response. the whole federal agency s supporting tate and locals and the state and look vols a very robust plan in place. >>taou havken questions about this. there was an announcement that you would be moving funds. you have not moved any yet, but it was about 270 million that were being proved from other agencies to immigration detention support. some of those funds would come from fema.o you said theyd have no effect on the agency's response. are you still confident in that? >> i am very confident in that. we're not going to awe loy it to have an effect me licensed safety in this crisis with hurricane dorian is our top so again, the disaster recovery fund for fema has over $25 billion in it.

so that is the main source of funding and a major disaster. we have plenty of funds in thavt fund. >> nawaz: i recently had a chance to travel with you to el salvador, pivoting to another subject. rsout u.s. immigrato leaders priorities. you made a number of trips to this area known as the northern triangle. here now is our report from that visit. >> nawaz: alongside el salvador's new president, nayib bukele... ...acting secretary mcaleenan praised efforts by his host to slow the number of salvadorans coming to the u.s. >> since your inauguration just three months, c.b.p. hasnt crossing at the u.s. southwest bord for individuals from el salvador. aimso further slow that out-migration, already fallen from 16,000 in may to 6,000 in august, with a foc on the root causes that force people to flee in the first place. how do you measure success,

based on these kinds of agreements? >> we want to return to historic lows, so that, realle not seeing a flow of vulnerable families and children responding to weaknesses in the legal framework in the united states, or to e types of policy objectives that the president here is trying to counter-- forced migration, ere it's either due to security concerns, or lack of economic portunity. >> nawaz: and much of mcaleenan's visit focused on creating those economic opportunities. meeting young salvadorans at a u.s.-funded job traini facility. hearing from salvadorans hired to help protect their own communities. and, meeting receny deported salvadorans, to learn what support they receive once back home. all part of a multi-pronged approach with a salvadoran president eager to partner with the u.s., according to charles call, a latin america specialist at the brookings institution, who has tracked president bukele's first few months in office. >> he's got a message that serves him well and serves his

relationship witthe trump administration well, both. he wants to basically create an el salvador where el salvador is delivering on what it should be delivering on, economically, and essentially, a peaceful society, so people don't want to leave. and so, that's his message, and that's one that actually jives very well with what thtrump administration would like to see. >> reporter: but call says addressi alone won't keep salvadorans at home. >> there are lots of poor there's poverty in mexico, there's poverty in other countries in the region. what distinguishes this country lyom others, is the incred high insecurity and violence in those counieor >> nawaz: auies here in el salvador have managed to cut the murder rate by a cut half in the last tee years alone, down to about 3,300 last year. but, the problem is far from soreed, and the murder rate in el salvador today remains one of the highest in e world. violence and economic insecurity forced tdora guevara d bonilla's son, named manuel, to leave ten years ago. she was awaiting his deportation

flight from the u.s. when we meet her at this repatriation center, worried he may now never see his u.s.-born kids again. >> ( translated ): he's cominged home separrom his family. i've spent nine years already without seeing him, so the same thing cod happen to him. >> nawaz: in the same center where she waits, 20-year-old antonio velasquez and his two children, eight-year-old jackeline and four-year-old elmer, have just arrived. they were pulled off a bus bound for the u.s. by mexican authorities, he says, held for a month, then bused back to el salvador. heeft el salvador to join hisid mother in texas, in search of a better life for his kids. em ( translated ): i told that we were returning to our couny.ca that w to see family we have here and that our kids wer no longer toth their grandmother. ofcame with my kids because my country has a looverty and

i want a better futu my kids. >> nawaz: secretary mcaleenan, i want to ask you about some of what you saw down there in el salvador. some of those pograms you were visitling, many of them were funded by the u.s. president trump announced that the swould be cutting developmental aid to el salvador. and one expert said it's hard to say you're addressing root causes when you cut out developmental aid like that, whh is one of the surces of economic development. what do you say to that? >> what i saw in el salvador ws not only a whole government brought together security agency, a minister of public security and a minister of defens but also his social welfe agencies. trying to attack the problem from the community level from the ground up. that's part of whathe u.s. embassy and teams like the u.s. agency for international narcotics and law enforcement bureau do with el salvador. they try to help supsert tho programs that are working in integrated fashion. that's had significant resultso as youed. the murder rates come down over 50% in the last three years, and in the last three moths, we've

seen another market drop since the president took office. so i'm there looking at what programs ar effective so i can be a good advocate for those programs with thest department f e, with the white house, but also looking at what dhs can do sitting alongside or law enforcement counterparts in el salvador otraining, onac techniques andcs and on individual investigation, working on human smuggling and unter-narcotics. but some of those programs have taken years to have any kind of effects. numbers are coming down in terms of the number of salvadorans those numbers havn comingsident. down for years, going back to 2016. largely as a result of some of these funded programs from the u.s. so doesn't cutting this aid undercut your mission? >> i thinkn?orking with these govements and aid is part of the equation. we want to make sure we have accountable partners and thate ograms are effective. there is a return on investment for the stated objectives. what's really important with el salvador is we have alialment on the objectives. president wants to end forced migration in his term that.

means people should not have toe leave fourity reasons or lack of economic opportunity, and we're going to be there to support that. >> nawaz: the president also said that he would like to see gthat migration numb down to zero. he doesn't want any slvadorans to feel like they need to leave their country to find a better portunity somewhere else. i asked you. you said you want to get down t. historic l when we followed up later, you said spring 2017 is a good what is that number? where do you think the u.s. gets below a crisis level at the border >> so in the spring of 2017 we had fewer than 20,000 peoplecr sing. the majority of those were single adults. we were able to really focus on the criminal element. the smugglers trying to exploit our border that's a level where we're playing on even footing. law enforcement is going against smugglers at the borde what we can't have is situations where we have vulnerable populations, families and children who are enticed by weaknesses in our laws and by human smugglers saying they will be allowed to stay if they go now coming to the border.tçmhp 3 r.it'sn dangerous situatd

it enriches the most violent criminals in the hemisphere and it's of obviously not good for e countries leaving either as you heard from the president. >> $20,000 a month. that's the number you're working toward. you don't owk we will be bel a crisis at the southern border? >> not at a will left where we feel like we're comfortable with the security of the u.s. border. >> is that a number you solthe president on, $20,000 is what you're aiming for? >> he tfoald about returning to lows. the president's executive order seeks to have us be so effective that nobody can successfully cross the border illegally. i think that's the ultimate target is to have the resources in pla l to ve theaws and policies in place where we're very effective a securing that very fast and significantly challenging border. >> nawaz: at the same time, i spent a lot of time on the xican side of the border, as we, there are lines now backed of families waiting for their chance to legally cross into the y'eyes, and they say the being made more vulnerable. by not being allowed to enter

the u.s., by metering or t limitie number of people allowed in legally, by being forced to wait in mexico while c their asylses unfold, they say they're at risk. people are targeting them because they know thy're unstable and they have no protection there. you have asked mexico to take care of those people and you're not doing it some what are you going to do about that?n >> first foremost we've increased to a record level of people we're accepting at ports of entry without documents.wh many o are seeking asylum. we'll exceed thate end ofease. this fiscal year, as well. so our men and women are wrking very hard to provide access that are vulnerable at pointof entry. but you're right, this is a partnership with the government of me transit country now as well a source coryuf migration. they have been working to improve their posture from an enforcement standpoint. we need them to do more. t we need thprovide shelter and protection for people that are waiting in this process and this program that they've agreed >> nawaz: are you making those

requests? >> absolutely. >> nawaz: you're holding them accountable. >> that's our expectation. we're trying to jointly nage this border, like the $2 bilraln in that crossesser day. our customs and border officers sitting side by side with them making decisions onargo. we think we need to be doing the same thing on the unrawfl and irregular side o migration flows. >> nawaz: as the number of people crossing the southerna border hasling, so has the number of people in immigration detention. y times are falling. at the same time, you have proposed detaining fmilies ander children lohan the previous 20 days put in place in the interest interests of children. u ha described these places campus-like settings. why keep children in an facility that puts them in mental and physical harm. >> let me talk about the mily residential centers which were created in 2014 in response to the first surge of families and children coming to the border

department of homeecurity the at that time. these centers were built, purpose built to house families during their immigration proceedings. again, they have educationa fality, wreck -- recreational, they're appropriate settings. sometime child welfare expertsef say iite detention exacerbates the chance children >> i'md you mention that.trauma. this notion of indefinite. there isn't a hard number in terms of how long that proceed canning take, but the average is 40 to 50 days. this is not an exthe ended period of time. 's done as expeditiously as possible consistent with due process. we want to make sure people hava orneif they want one and they have an opportunity to go through the process and maketh r case. but what's -- you have to look at the alternative,n ama. the alternative is families are putting themselves in th of smuggling organofations paying $5,000 to $7,000 per person and facing difficulty on the journey, dying on the way, a and havi situation on or border that's been unacceptable.

a> >> matt: we'relking about what happens once they'vee arrived. you're talking about detaining them foronger in facilities experts say is not good for these children. >> you need toave inegrity in the system. when families are released in an alternative to detention, we don't see them showing up for court hearings and they're not getting a result from that court, meaning if you have a valid asylum claim, you will not get it for five to seven years,d if y't have one, you will not be repatriated which means more people will betivized to take this dangerous journey, as well. >> nawaz: thank you for being here, acting secretary of homeland security, kevin mcaleenan. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> woodruff: in kabul, afghanistan's capital, 16 people died in a car bomb explosion last night. the target was "the green village," a compound housing

mainly international workers. today, afghans protested outside the coound, demonstrating against the foreign presence in their country. the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, en as they participate i peace talks with the united states. newshour special correspondent jane ferguson is on assignmentni in afgan, and has been talking to civilians and cab officials in today. she joins us now. hello, jane. how significant is it do you think that this attack took place just as we are told the taliban and the u.s. are making progress o this potential peace deal? >> hi, you ditch. it's no coincidence we've seen a e inive uptick in viole recent weeks and recent days here. tthere peacealks ween the united states and the taliban, but the taliban hadwa ed to maintain pressure and to remind both the united state and the afghan governmt here

ir strengths.he we've seen shows of strength throughout the weekend while those talks wer tright doo the eleventh hour. tworovincial capitals both saw assault by the taliban and then, of course, yesterday'ss enorm bombing. it has been a controversy surrounding these talks that they go on while there isn't actually a ceasefire at this but we have seen a breakthrough with the u. special envoy to those talks arriving here to tell the afghan people that ipthere has been in pri an agreement. >> woodruff: so jane, how much is actually known about what is in this deal, the details? >> it's extkyremely murt this stage. the afghan people don't know for sure what is going to happen, and it will massively affect their future, but ont naional afghan television yesrday, they gave away some details of the proposed agreement.

of course, he reminded everybody that it isn't official until president trump signs it himseli but he that iniatially there would be a 5,000-troop drawdown. that's from 14,000 american troops. and that effectively five u.s. bases would be vaated. that's really theú we're starting to see as a drawdown. t there are still many, many questions about what's not being mentioned about what could be in this deal, such as whether or not there will be any kind of ceasefire. heaid that there would ba reduction in iolence, but specifically did not u the word "ceasefire." so there is a huge amount of uncertainty here in kabulnt people really find out what is in the proposed agreement andhe whor not it will become the final text. >> woodruff: jane, fially, what about publi.attitud you say there is unturn. what is the public saying to you, people saying to you about the fact that this could actually happen? >> it depends ve mch, judy, who you're talking to. you pointed out earlier there

that there were riots after that booming yesterday, and they were very much angry demonstrations against a western presence in that part of kaul. ve seenbecause people so mucbloodshed. of course, we must remember that thousands of american lives have been losain this war, but mny more thousands of afgn lives have been lost. so there i a sense of anger whenever the taliban areib targeting westerners and afghans die. you see a huge uptick in afghan few weeks and months.in the last so people here really, really want peace. they want an end to this war. but there is a severe fear, there is a very real fear that any american withdrawa this is particularly strong whenever you're talking to officials in the government here, could be too hasty. you want the make sure that the americans don't leave a way that could cause the afghan government to collaps could endanger the afghan security forces that the americans and their partners here have spentuc

sotime and energy and money building up. u so there's a see at, of course they want a deal, and they want an end to this war, but they want to make sure it's one that's done responsibly. >> woodruff: hard to believe the u.s. has been there no almost 18 years. jane ferguson reporting from kabul, thank you, jane. >> woodruff: when a gunman fired discriminately from his vehicle on the streets andwa hi of odessa, texas on saturday, he killed seven peopl and woun others. as william brangham reports, a local hospital quickly became the trauma center to treat many of the victims. >> brangham: the medical center hospital in odessa treated 13 of the shooting victims, including one who later died, and the young toddler who was hit by shrapnel, and was ter transferred to a hospital in lubbock.ss l tippin is the c.e.o.

of the medicalenter health system in odessa, and he joins me by skype. mr. tippin, thank you very mreh for being could you just take us back to saturday and help us understand how that day unfolded for yo. >> like probably most everybody else, i was out of town with my family returning home from the labor day weekend.d ani just started getting all kinds of messageand calls that there was an ininident tak place here in odessa and that it was a bad situation and we just kind ofotarted talking ut what our game plan was, started talking about our emergency management plans and just wha we needed to do to, first of all, secure the hospital andot t our employees and get ready for some patients an their families. >> brangham: as th chief executive of a small hospital, not to mention being a resident of odessa, hearing there is a ss shooting under way in your

town has to be the worst nightmare scnario. >> well, you know, my first thought was once i took my first phone call, i laid the phone down, and my family and i an our cars said a quick prayer from the victims and theird families aust the shooting was stopped and we would be in the right place at the right time, and that the good lord would use us totake cause of these patients coming in. i mean, this is something nobody wants to hear. you train for this stuff. but you're rit. when the actual words come in that there is something of thi magnitude goi on, there's really no -- you just kind of go numb. there's really no feeling to it. you just know that you've gotu training and yly on that training, and you get busy taking care of patients. >> brangham: on saturday night at your press conference, you were urging prayers and harmo for the community. what was it you were trying tohe

conveyeople at that time? >> well, i mean, when you get in times ke, is you got the lean on your faith. you got the lean on each other. and my call that night was the me as it is ght now. healing starts with loving each other and with praying for each other and just being there whn people need help, an that's what i was trying t get across. we have to take care of each other, and god has alan for us all, and we can reach out the him any time and j wasust time for us to call on the name out and be ready to take care of our community. >> woodruff:>> brangham: obvious has take an terrible toll on the victims, those who survived and those st their live, but we no from past shootings thisri also takes a te toll on the first responders and the people who care for the wounded. you have been talking tou yor staff. how are they doing? how are they handling all of this? well, first of all, these people performed amazingly.rm when all this was going on, nobody was above anybody else.

everybody was pitchg in, doing their role, playing their part, doing what was necessary, even going above and beyond that. but you know, 's kind ofike post-traumatic stress disorder when it all ends and people start calming dunn and ey start going home and start realizing, i mean, there was ag yody that was killed in this that'the same age as my dauger, and the same age as a lot of our employees family. some of our staff to just deal with that, and we've ha councilors on site. we've had animals, you know, post-thatmontionstress animals ite for our staff just to be available so should they have these, you know, these symptoms that they're feeling somea anxiety we have somebody there to help them through. this we have also made that available to the victims and their families, as well.

er>> braham: i know se victims are still receiving care. could you give us a sense how they're doing?fo >> we do havs in our facility. most of them are doing well. we have a few labels as critical. we have some in serious conditio we did have some go home today and we'reecxpng people to just continue to recover and do well. we have e critical, one serious, and seven in fair condition right now. >> woodruff: all right, russell tippin, c.e.o. thece medical nter health system in odessa, thank you very, very much. >> thank you, guys. d bless you. takeare. >> woouff: now, an exhibit celebrating the work of a legendary 20th century designer, alexander girard. his work fuses sleek modernism th the playfulness of folk art, creating a world of his own.

special correspondent kathleen mccleery's report is part of culture series.esoing arts and >> reporter: many children invent imaginary friends... but, when e late alexander rard was a young boy, he dreamed up an entire country, says curator laura addison.s >> hermap. here's the republic of fife. and this is the earliest work chronologically that he did. and it is a metaphor for everything he did thereafter. >> reporter: that fantasy land is where the girard retrospective at santa fe's international folk art museum begins. girard dedw stamps. fooins. even concocted a secret language >> he created worlds. he was an inventor of spaces and universes. >> reporter: in 1960, that meant shaping the space for aty chic new york estaurant, la fonda del sol in the time- life building. he dtigned nearly every aspec of the latin american eatery. >> nothing was too small andg noths too large to tackle. so not only did alexander girard work with the interior space,he

withalls and the treatments and the tables and the larger objects, he also did everything from matchbooks to the tea service to the match strikes to the napkins. the waits' uniforms. the carts. >> reporter: in 1965, an even bigger design makeover for the dallas-based braniff airlines. the new slogan: "the end of th plain plane." >> we hired alexander girard to do our planes. we have blue planes, yellow planes, orange planes. you can fly with us seven times and never fly the same color twice. >> reporter: again, girard designed almost everything: including a brand new typeface used on tickets, baggage tags, and even sugar packets.ra >> the ring that he did in terms of logo, typography, that it came through at oveal17,000 indivibjects.00 >> reporter: the aim, girard said, was to destroy monotony of air travel. and he did the same for office environments. >> so, alexander girard was best

known a textile designer. >> reporter: it was at herman miller furniture in detroit that girard gained his reputation as one of the 20th century's most influential interior and textile designers. there, he worked with ray and charles eames, a married couple known for their sleedern chairs and tables, often upholstered in girard's fabrics. in the 1960s, cubicles were the latest in office design. girard cated panels to brighten the sterile workplaces. >> this is daisy face. she's a human figure morphing out of a tree. or perhaps it's e other way around. l u see the branches coming out of her arms as w her legs. and she had petals around her head, just like a daisy. graphically bold, very colorful. and it was meant to bring joy into your office space. >> reporter: the common spaces, the restaurant, the office environment. how can what's there be a consider? >> well, alexander girard liked

to say, "art is not art if it is not synonymous with living." to him it was all about the joye in taking. it was about human creativity. >> reporter: girard's creativity was inspired by his passion for folk art, such as the traditional tree of life. visitors can see that inspiration in a huge permanent exhibit acss the hall, says museum director khristaa villela. >> we're just steps away froct the retrospeive, and folk artwa a very important part of his design practice. >> reporte girard and his wife traveled the world for decades, scooping up folk art. in 1978, he donated more than 100,000 pieces, givi this museum the world's largest collection. 10,000 objects are on display, all of theplaced exactly where the designer instructed. >> this is a mexican vilge. the town of acatla which is in southern puebla in mexico. >> reporter: here, too, girard's treasures are assembled into miniature worlds. >> girard wanted things, like a

ve large church, or a trai or a graveyard, or 500 cactuses, or a jail. anso he commissioned this entire scene and recreated it here. >> reporter: none of the folk art is identified by country,is artist or date. that's on purpose. >> he wanted you to experience is as he saw it, and labels would be a way of interfering with that vision. it's also intended to be a space an immersive experience ofike girard's vision and of world folk art. r orter: 26 years after his death, girard continues tode spirgners, like raul cabra of oaxaca, mexico.rt >> what's imt with girardan and the relationship for us is that he creates a translation. ana translation of tradition into something that is design ansomething that is contemporary. d i think that's how this has influenced the work i do and many others. >> reporter: that includes the work of artists aleishall girard maxon and alexander kori girard,

who grew up surrounded by their >> it was just such a lesson in how to see, you know, and how to understand different visual languages. >> reporter: the twove the exhibit offers context on girard's legacy. >> people love to say how whimcal and warm and happy h work is, and it is. but it's also the distillation of human spirit that is so universal, that he saw so clearly. in the end, we have far more similarities than we do differences, and i believe that he was pushing that thugh all of the projects that he did. >> reporter: "a designer's universe" is on exhibit in santa fe through october 27. it goes to the palm springs museumn california later this year. for the pbs newshour, i'm kathleen mccleery santa fe, new mexico. >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, share a few

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