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♪ stephanie: -- juwoodruff.evening, i am judy touching down on turkey, the vice president and secretary of president erdogan, agreeing to a five day pause in the incsion. then, the acting white house chief of staff admits military for ukraine was withheld in exchange for a promise to investigate democrats. plus, a brit breakthrough. the u.k.eaches a tentative deal with of the european union to prevent a hard crh out. but, questions abound whether he can get thugh britain's parliament unscathed. by the numbers, as consumers generate massive amounts of data, artists and industries take notes, turning creative
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inspiration into a precision instrument. >> what we learned in the past you can think of is the data this is now a gusherta of da much cheaper to maneuver and analyze. judy: that and more o' tonight' "pbs newshr." ♪ >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by, bmsf railway. consumer cellular. and by the alfred p. sloane foundation, supporting science, technology and literacy in the 21st century. necarnegie corporation o york. supporting innovations in atedn, democratic engagement and the advancement of international peace an
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security, at carnegie.org. and the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. ♪ >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. judy: five days, 120 hours. turkey now says it will start its military drive into syria for that long to allow kurdish fighters to withdraw. the kurds say they will comy. this follows a tense day of talks between turkey and the u.s. >> today the u.s. and turkey agreed to a cease-fire in syria. dy: the announcement came fr
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vice president pence after he and secretary ofeotate mike po held worthen four hours of talks with turkey's president. erdogan agreed to stop the assault on kurdish ypg fighters in northeast syria. >> it will be a pause in military operations for 120 hos while the u.s. facilitates the withdrawal of ypg from the affected areas in the safe zone. once that is completed, turkey has agreedo a permanent cease-fire. judy: presidentrump lauded the outcome during a visit to fort worth, texas. pres. trump: i want to thank and congratulate president erdogan. he is a friend of mine and i am glad we did not have a problem, because frankly, he is a hell of a leader. man and he did tht thing.trong
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judy: but in ankara,ed they dispt is a cease-fire and hailed it as a win for turkey. >> thiss not a cease-fire. cease-fire's can only be done between two legitimateides. we are only pausing to allow terrorist groups, which are the ittarget, toraw from the safe zone. judy: yesterday a letter surfaced from presidenp to erdogan dated last wednesday, october 9, three days after mr. utrump order. troops out of northeast syria. he warned agast aurkish military offensive and said in an diplomatic language, don't be a tough guy, don't be a fool. dogan reportedly throw away letter and launched into syria the same day. the turkish leader vowed not to stop until estabshing a 20 mile buffer zone into syrian territory to rout kurdish fighte.
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he considers them terrorists allied with insurgents in turkey known as the pkk. the syria heards of the ypg announced a new alliance withve the syrian ment and its russian allies. the top syrian kurdishom cnder said on wednesday that president trump approved that alliance in a phone call. >> in thisen, trump said we are not against it. we told him we are contae ing rian regime and the russians in order to protect our country and land. he said we are not against of that, we support that. judy: today president trump dismissed bipartisan criticism of his actions. he said the u.s. pullout and sanctions on turkey created an amazing outcome. pres. trump: this is something they have been trying to get for 10 years. it would have lost millions and millions of lives. they could not get it without rough love, as i called it. judy: but back in washington republican senator lindsey
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graham, alongmo with at chris van hollen, said they will go ahead with legislation for tougher sanctions. >> i think we should still work on it. introduced aill. we will get cosponsors. judy: meanwhile fighting continued in parts of nort wastern syrh explosions continuing to rock the border town. now, for turkey's the view of this deal, how it came to be and fighting in northern syria, i am joined by turkey's ambassador to the united states. welcome. >> thank you. judy: your governme says this is not a cease-fire, it is a pause in the government. the u.s.a says it i cease-fire. which is it, and does your government plan to honor it? >> it will be a pause, not a cease-fire. we are trying to control
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elements from the region. judy: thesefire the kurdish ters? >> i would say ypg. there is a distinction. there is anncredible mix that you have in the u.s. yes, all the members of y are kurds, but they do not represent the kurds. judy: does turkey consider them more of a threat than isis? >> even president trump stated a couple days ago that pkk is more of a threat. judy: this is a terrorist group? >> our operation conducted in northern syriayr and our determination to fight against daesh are not mutually exclusive.il wefight decisively if there is need, but ypg is an existential threat to us. we have lost people in the hands
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of pkk terrorists, 40,000. and we have given our full support to the united states,wi against 9/11out question. when the u.s. conducted operations and afghanistan, we knew it was against al qaeda. senator graham and [indiscernible] a terrorist orgaeszation reted as -- recognized as such. they are referring to it as an ally. judy: they did work alongside the u.s. in the fight against isis. >> that was a mistake in the first place. you cannot conduct a successful fight against a terrorist organization by making use of
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another terrorist organization. judy: you mentioned senator van hollen, senator graham. the entire foreign services committee in the u.s. senate are saying they are goingd ull speed ahth sanctions against turkey, despite this. >> this is the prejudice we have to overcome. they are rerring to ypg a allies of the u.s. they are not allies. our first and ultimate goal in syria is trying toth preserv territorial integrity of syria. judy: several questions. there was the phone call between pres trump and president erdogan on sunday, at which time they discussed this operation. president erdon gave the go-ahead to this operation
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alshortly after that phone what was said by president trump to president erdogan that gave him the confence to move ahead after months and months and years of the u.s. opposing this? >> we haveew made our very clear that we are not going to let a terrorist develop in strthern syria. it will be an etial threat to the security of turkish territories. we will not let that happen. during the telephone conversation, president trump gave a green light. which country needs a grn light to defend its citizens? in the past the u.s. said, do not do this. the u.s. has troops in northern syria, do not move against them. >> i think president trump understood that that we will seekte pion to defend our population, tritory and
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forces. he understood the operation would come. it would lead to an undesired clash beeen our forces. dy: if he understood there would be a military operation, why did a couple days later president trump say publicly,pl se stop, turkey, do not go any further? >> i think he d was undestic pressure from congress and the media outlets. ngthat is why he c his messages. duringhat entireime t he mentioned turkey has the right able to get rid of the threat coming from the pyd-ypg. judy: do you also believe it is pressure that led president trumpnd to that letter to president erdogan on october 9 last week in which he said forever as the devil.n you 't be ae a tough guy, don' full >> history will not record that.
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it lacks niceties and void of any established practices. we are not going to recorded in any case. judy: what was present erdogan's reaction? >> [indiscernible] judy: what do you mean? there were advisors to president or to one told the press that presidentrdan through it in the trash -- threw it in the trash. >> he accepted its null and void. judy: you have sd repeatedly turkey is fighting terrorists in northern syria, but i want to read, this is from an autopsy repo that came with the video of a senior syrian kurdish politiciana woman, killed in
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the last week during the incursion. i am reading, she was beaten in the head, on the leg, dragged by her h sr,t in the head at close range, and then shot four more times after she fell to the ground. is this the method of tar turkish mil >> of course not. if the is any wrongdoing, you can rest assured that will be investigated. that report is false. we have never committed a crime or atrocities. judy:ol what were your troops to do? >> to avoid syrian cualties, to avoid taking religious sides, and the civilian population. judy: one of the factors as a result of this is that russia has moved into northern sia, very close to the syrian government, the syrian regime. is russia now the real winner in
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all of this because it has more influence in syria? >> i put it from a different perspective. the end of the day i hope syrianeople are the winners. there are many refugees. at the end of the day i hope the winner will be t. syrian peop whatever happens in syria, it will have a spillover effect. judy: is there a role for the u.s. in syria at all? >> of course, they will collaborate with us, i hope, for the safe zone in northern syria. we need assistance of the entire international community. as i told you we have 3.6 have spent $40 million -- 40 u.s. million dollars.
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there are many displaced syrians. this is a burden we cannot should alone. of course we need the support of the united states. much. ambassador, thank you very thanks for having me and providing the opportunit ♪ judy: now to the other major story of the day, the ongoing impeachment inquiry into president trump. the news came in fast from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. reporter: from the white house, k mulvaney off m one hand refuted the idea that president trump ever held up raine aid money to force an investigation into former vice president biden. >> the money had absolutely nothing to do with fighting. >> but then he said this about
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whether they tied the aidoney to anoth investigation, democrats and his 2016 election. >> didon he menhe corruption related to the d&c server? absolutely, no question about that. reporter: democrats like adam schiff o said there was abu power. things have gone from bad to worse. the idea that vital military assistance would be withheld for such a patently political reason, for the reason of serving thes president' reelection campaign, is a phenomenal breach of t ompresident'd duty to defend our national security. reporter:s this a another key trump official arrived, gordon sondland. today he was also an impeachment witness. >> [indiscernible] >> are you here to salvage your
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?reputati reporter: sondland is a hotel chern fouho donated $1 million to president trump's inauguration committee andas later appointed to has ambassadorship by trump. he testified bind closed doors. he said president trump directed the team working onkraine to talk to rudy giuliani, his personal t attorney, abo president's concerns. he also tesfied, i did not understand until much later that giuliani's agenda may have cluded an effort to prompt the ukrainians to investigate vice president biden for his son. he did s at one point mr. trump repeatedly told him, no quid pro quo meaning aid money was not a bargaining chip for investigations. at the white house mulvaney tackd that testimony, insisted neither giuliani's role nor
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influence on policy is impeachable. >> i have get over it.ybody, there will be political influence and foreign policy. reporter: i texas president trump spoke onther topics, but not impeachment. judy: lisa is here with me along wi our white house correspondent. hello to bothf you. lisa, let's talk about the u.s. ambassador to the e.u., gordon sondland. he i a central figure in all this. what we know about how he fits into this big picture? lisa: he became both more important than less. he told investigators h was on the call, but he establishes relationships. that is what i want to talk about and get to why democrats look at him so hard. as people know, he has ambassador to the e. and a donor to president trump. he said president trump himself
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directed him to talk to rudy an- if you look giuliani, the president's personal attorney, he pushed into the investigation for the dnc, into the energy company where hunter biden more and more i heard from s republicdy giuliani went rogue, was doing something the president was noaware of, but gordon sondland established the president directed him to talk to giuliani. the president was putting trust in giuliani to take care of his concerns. judy: let's pick up on that. what are you picking up on what ambassador sondland had to say and what does this fit into what the president has been saying and the people around the president? yamiche: ambassador sondland said things both problematic for president trump without raking
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from him completely. he said he was disappointed in trump'ski decision- as it relates to issues with ukraine. alsois that he involved personal attorney, rudy giuliani. that being said, he said i did not know at the beginning rudy giuliani wanted to investigate joete biden and hunter biden. he was putting distae between himself and what president trump and rudy giuliani were doing.at s problematic for the president. s is is somebody who donated millions of doll president trump's campaign. this is someone who is close to the president or an saying, i will say what i know and it really fits a pattern ofo whers have been saying, telling lawmakers. president trump is not coming out looking good.it looks as though he and rudy giuliani were trying to do with -- dealings with ukraine as shadow campaign without the
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state department's involvemen judy: as we heard in lisa's report, there was an explosive house chief taff mickting white mulvaney about whaathappened on hone call between the president and the leader of ukraine. later today, a different statement. fill us in tnt. yamiche: there is much going on with mick mulvaney now. he came h to the whitese podium as part of a briefing and vigorously defended the president. ar said the president was withholding mil aid for ukraine because of an issue dealing with the democratic national committee, wanted ukraine to look into that. a couple minutes ago he released a statement saying his words ewere misconstrued and president never mentioned the d&c as part of him withholding that -- dnc as part of him. withholding th those words from the podium led
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to a lot of backlash. democrats are saying it is evidence of a quid pro quo. you have a senior department of and told me the doj has no ideae what mick mulvaney is talkingab t. they were not awareinf any withhoof military aid. own personal's torney said the legal team had nothing to do with what mick mulvaney was talking about. you see mick mulvaney releasing a statement as part of the backlash he is facing. judy: it is getting more and more difficult to keep track of who is saying what area -- what. where does this impeachment inquiry stand? lisa: let's talk about the timene. mitch mcconnell said we could have a senate trial by the end of the year. that possible? let's look at what is likely to happen. the house intelligence committee is holding closed door meetings and hearings as part of their investigation.
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tethat they say they will hold public meetings. at that point they will put together a report and send it to the judiciary committee along with other committees. the judiciary committee willly prob hold hearings and meetings to go over articles of impeachment. wothat is a lot o that needs to happen. they are running out of time this year. things will continue to move at a fast pace. ath trial isenate at the end of the years seems like a long stretch. ma e articles of impeachment by judy: they still do not plan to impeachment?horizing and lisa: o -- no. they could move straight to articles of impeachment. judy: another piece of news from mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff at the white house. that is, the president is proposing to hold the next g7, leaders of the seven leading countries of the world, his
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golf resort? yamiche: this was a controversial decision by president trump to say he wants to hold the g7 at a property he has and owns in florida. here is what mick mulvaney had to say as he defended that decision. >>as ikeptical. i was aware of the political fire we came under, which is why i was surprised when the teamk called bd said this was the perfect physical location to do this. i get the criticisms, so does he. he would b regardless of what he chose to do. there is notice it profiting off this. yamiche: move a knee is sayisi it was the pnt's -- mulvaney is saying it was the ident's idea. trump doral has been losing money. thedoevenue i. democrats have been saying it is
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a brazen attempt by the president to profit off the presidency. we will have to look at how this develo. the g7 at least for now will be held at a trump property. judy: what a full day. thank you both. ♪ >> good epbning fro newshour west, i am stephanie sy president trump announced late this afternoon rick perry will be leaving his job by the end of the year.to perr trump of his decision while they were traveling together on air force one to aly campaign rn texas. perry's involvement with the president's dealings with ukraine are under scrutiny, but there is no indication his resignation is tied to that. violent protests erupted invi beirut, lebanon, believed to be sparked by a government proposal to tax whatsapp.
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interceptions withng tires and garbage containers. police used terror but tear gas and rubber bullets. the government has backed away from the tax on whatsapp usage, but protesters around the country are still calling to an end for government corruption and higher taxes. one of the sons of former drug kingpin joaquin guzman has set off a fierce battle. he is believed toal be influen in the senate lower cartel -- sinoloa cartel. his father was sentenced to life in prison by a u.s. federal court inry. about 25,000 teachers and sta walked off the job today in chicago, thens nat third-largest public school district. they set up picket lines around many of thets distr00 schools, demanding better pay and smaller class sizes among other things.
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>> the only way we get justice for our kids is by making sure that we as teachers, who are their front line for defense, stand up for their nstds. we wil out as long as it takes for us to be able to get the thingshey need. stephanie: no deal was reached tonight. the strike will continue into friday, forcing the school district to cancel classes for second day. for california residents worried about the next earthquake, there is an app for that. kee first statewide earthq warning system rolled ket today. the mobile phone app is designed to detect seismic waves and alert users before the ground starts shaking. today is the 24th anniversary of the devastating loma prieta aarthquake in 1989. the number of deat linked to vaping has climbed to 33 since -- according to th centers of disease control and prevention, but there is still no definitive cause for the deaths. juul aounced it will stop
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selling vaping pods with fruit and dessert flavs. juul is the country's best-selling e-cigarette brand. congressman elijah cummings died after lo-standing health problems. the ltimore democrat had been -- was a highly regarded figure in p both politicalties. we have a look at his life and career. reporter: elijah cummings spent a lifetime advocating for civil rights in his native baltimore and beyd. after 13 years in the maryland state house he came congress in 1996. >> my mission is one that cos out of a vision created long, long ago. it is a mission and visioto empower people, to make people realize that the power is within them, that they too can do the things they want to do. amna: cummings pursued that
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vision as an advocate for gunra reform, immigon and always, racial justice. in 2015,to he worked to res calmhen riots erupted inth baltimore aftedeath of freddie gray, a young black man in police custody. at gray's funeral he gave an impassioned eulogy. >> i have always said our children are the living message rto our future we will ne see, but now our children are sending us to a future they will never see. there is something wrong with that picture amna: this year, cummings we equally fiendemning the conditions in which migrant children were being detained at >> we are the united states of america. we are the greatest country in the world. we are the ones that can go anywhere in the world and save people, make sure they have diapers, toothbrushes, make sure
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they are not laying around, defecating. n, we are better than that. amna: he also launche o investigatiopresident trump. calling cummings racistbrnd ding baltimore a rat infested mass. today trump tweeted condolences ngiskndoinoyisa ,many fronts will be very hard f not impossible to replace. in congress his colleagues pay luibute, ing nancy pelosi. >>ng in ss elisha was considered a north star. he is a leader of towering he lived the american dream and wa amna: that sentiment crossed the political aisle to mitch mcconnell. he had close friends and admirers from all acrosspthe politicatrum. amna: cummings' death deprives
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democrats of a voice in the impeachment increas but he left clear eyed views on duty. >> dancing with the angels, a question will be asked. in 2019, what did we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact? did we stand on the sidelines and say nothing? amna: for the pbs newshour i am amnaawaz. britain and the european union reach a brexit deal. can it survive british parliament? the united auto workers move to end their strike wi gm. what is on the line. and, how data is driving artists to create new work. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west fromhe walter s cronkitechool of journalism at
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arizona state university. judy: european union leaders unanimously backed a brexit deal with the united kingdomoday. the next major hurdle is having the agreement brproved by the ish parliament. no easy featis for prime mr boris johnson. the stakes for the u.s. is clear, the e.u. is america's largest trading partner and the u.k. one of its strongest allies. stnick schifrin has the y. nick: boris johnson threw his arms around negotiators and adsaluted european les for agreeing on new terms of their divorce. johnson even did a full victory lap across the table, comparing it to reaching the summit of mount evert. >> it has been long, painful, divisive. now is the moment for us as a country to come together. now is the moment for parliament to come together and get this done. nick: mh of the new deal is
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the old deal, leaving that you after a transition that ends in 2020. european residents in the u.k. rim -- retain their status and britain pays europe $45 million. the sticking point is about the ish border. a country in the european union. right now tre is no physical border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland. cars and goods can travel freely. the new deal allows the entire u.k. including northern ireland to strike tde deals and import goods under u.k. custom laws. northern ireland would follow european union regulations and goods at risk of being exported from northern ireland to the republic of irelandal would under european customs rules. today the irish prime minister praised the deal. >> it is a unique solution that recognizes the unique geography
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of northern ireland. nick: it also reduces chances they could rejected and will keep the u.k. in line with european environmental and labor rules. johnson predicted members of the british parliament would ratify the new deal. and hope my fellow mp's stminster come together to get brexite, d to get this excellent deal over the line,an to deliver brexit without any more delay. ck: in today's parliament that is easiesaid than done. union party, criticized him in the deal. >> he has been too eager to get a deal at y cost. nick: the largest oppositio bloc, labour, and jeremy corbin,, will block. >> we are unhappy with this deal
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and will vote against it. nick: for a deeper look, we turn to the director of a london think take. thanks back to newshour. what are the two or three major aspects that have changed in this deal? robin: the major thing is that northern ireland from boris johns's point of view is no longer the problem that it was. they agreed to create a border at the irish sea that keeps northern ireland from the problems of the eresa may deal. it means you doot need border structures or arrangements between the republic of ireland and northern ireland. that is number one. number two, boris johnson can strike a real free-trade agreement for the e.u., for the thhe is free to do a math more open rnship that allows the u.k. to diverge from the e.u.
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for the big brexiteers, those who championed brexit from the beginning, the idea was to strike a new and exciting agreements with countries around the world. with of the irish problem resolved he reckons he has that freedom. that lends him a better chance of parliamentary or support. -- parliamentary support. nick: he has to get it through british parliahents. what arehances of that, given what we heard from the democratic unionist party and the labour party, opposing it? robin: it is a longshot. it has been so compressed in time. labour does not even want to hold a vote on saturday. he has created a lot of antibodies. if he does not have the democratic unionist party on his side, he is probably five votes short. for all those conservatives who
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fthe party and discussed -- in disgust, it assumes they will co back on board. even with all of that, if he does not have the democratic unionist or labourpl p he will be a few votes short. can he getouabor --l people who voted heavily to leave and are worried about this draggi on and on, and do not trust jeremyorbyn, can he get a few of them on his side? nly needs 10, 15. -- he only needs 10, 15. we heading toward rcceed, are election? robin: yes. he is under the gun by law. they could have taken it away from him to prevent unknown deal
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brexit. hes obliged to send a letter to the european commission asking for an extension all the way to the 31st of january. he is obliged to do that by saturday evening if parliament does not approved by then. if he loses the vote or some labor people --labour people try to add on a referendum to the deal, whis something conservatives would oppose, he may choose to resign and say i struck a deal with the e.u., you can't pass it, good luck. he is hoping it would collapse and then there would be a general election. he would be in a strong position to win it. nick: h wbe favored to win another general election? robin: the question u.k. independence party led byni l faraj, -- farage,l w they contested, -- contest i
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or let conservatives run it? what i fear is we end up with an undecided, hung parliaments, even after another general election. nick: thank youery much. ♪ judy: on month-long strike by the united auto workers appears to be coming to an end soon. the council approved a tentative deal with general motors. workers will rema on the picket line until rank-and-file members vote on the deal over the next week. this will likely be the template for the uaw's negotiations with ford and fiat chrysler. we have more about the terms of
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their for your deal and what it says about the future of the auto industry. reporter: the tentative deal includes a number of wins. for one, more money. most gm workers will get an there are wage increases intion. lump-sum bonuses, and the top fhourly p permanent workers will go up to $32 an hour. another y for the uaw, a quicker path to permanent employment for temporary and part-time workersea who have log ed less money. general motors got some of what it wanted,oo. three of four plants slated to close will not. one will stay open and rebuild -- build electric vehles. it does not agree additional manufacturing or production will move back to the u.s. from. mexi aho journalistollows the automotive industry joins me a w
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fr arbor, michigan. welcome back to the newshour. kei l at a few elements in this deal. it has not been gned by rank-and-file workers. what stands ot t you is the most significant parts of this? >> a couple of things. as you mentioned, there are wins for th union and general motors. one thing general motors g, it ecdoes not have to make ic promises about future investment. if you understand how much turmoil theuto injury -- industry is then, that is an important point for gm, no one can predict where the injury -- industry will be in for five ars. gm got a lot of flexibility. the union got a lot of cash for its members. it is stunning. there is an 11,000 dollars
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signing bonus for veteran workers. temporary workers who are not full-time are getting $00 apiece. apparently it goes into their paychecks if the contract is approved. etthat is an awfully sonus to vote yes for this contract. reporter: one issue further uaw was this issue for people who do nomake a distinction between permanent workers in these permanent temporary workers. why was it so important for the union? >> one of thfounding tenets of the uaw going back is that everybody on the assembly line and factories should be nsidered the same. that is the idea of solidarity. what this previous contract in the contract before that did was literally set up t tiers of
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ryrkers plus the tempo you almost have three levels. veteran workers got full pay and benefits. newly hired workers got less pay and barely any benefits. then you got the temps, y getting paid an hourl rate. that is not the way the uaw has operated forost of its history. i think the union was eager to eliminate those tiers and to get people on the same page. reporter: three of the four plantshe uaw wanted to keep open are not going to stay open. there was no promise of moving jobs from mexico back to the u.s. do i read this right -- that is an ominous trend line for american workers, is it not? >>gr it is not t development. to be honest, i do not think all four had a chance of staying open. i think t
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re was hopthat lordstown, near youngstown, ohio, might have gotten a product. ere w talk of putting battery production and lordstown. the detroit plant, that one is rusupposed to get electric production. intereing thing about that, there is a start up which just got an order from amazon for 100,000 electric trucks. it is also going to build picku trucks and sport utility vehicles. there are a start up, they have money from ford in this big contract from amazon. gm needs to hustle if it wants to compete. reporter: we are seeing this proposed settlement. it looks like success for both sides. we are also seeing 25,000
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schoolteachers in chicago going out on strike, following on the path of a lot of other school strikes that have been happening. when you look at the developments of today, assuming this deal gets ratified, is this a one-off or does it mean something more broadly for the >> this is an awfully generous contract about cash.ust talking i do not think other places can provid their employees.h to the chicago teacher strike is interesting. chicago has a brand-new mayor and i think she is sympathetic. the teachers walked out anyway because they had real concerns about their future. as far as the broader labor movement, in journalism we are seeing a number ofews organizations unionize that had never unionized before. ethere aorts on college campuses.
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people feel they need someone to speak up for them and is value in solidarity. as someone who has been a union member all my life and my member was a union organizer, and my grandfather, i can completely understand why people want that reporter: thank you for helping us sort through all of this. >> always a pleasure.as ♪ judy: o of the fundamental economic shifts of our time is data is disruptin commerce in everyday life. artificial intelligence, which involves machinesan learning, yzing and using enormous sets of data, is expected to have an ever wider impact, transforming industries and eliminating jobs. that data can be used to apy al more direc what customers want, including in creative esdustries.
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special t correspondent h first of two stories on that for our segments, making sense. >> this is an interpretation of a french [indiscernible] >> i do not know that i want to smell like this, but i want to eat this. report: he is a master perfumerm froa big company. they are harnessing the power of big data to make artistic decisions. part of the second digital disruption, as a legal scholar call it in a new paper. >> the first digital disruption was about the ability to distributeigitally. reporter: lveally or not, piracy on filesharing places like napster, the music industry had to adapt. >> the second one is about da. it is streamed out to you, and in turn the company is receiving
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data from you. this is about targeting consumption to consumers. if you go further, you get into investing in content. reporter: companies like netflix pay close atttion to details of what people wch, down to en they hit pause. user data is mined, analyzed and used to create new products. one example, "house of." car >> they were confident enough thof they spent a huge amoun money, sight uns -- unsee >> they identify the people liked david fincher, kevin spacey, they knew there was an audience for that combination. >>in until kpacey ran into trouble, it was a successful show. reporter: also, the porn industry. >>ahey use d more than other
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companies in their creative efforts. typically adult films arehort. if you watch a lot of them, they get a lot of data. they are cheap to make. >> better porno for science. reporter: even in pre-internet customer taste.y was wat hbo's "deuc" >> i never mix it up.er i'm starting to get a real sense. >>e were living in the past, the data bronze age. this has become a gusher of data much cheaper to gather and analyze. reporter: most academics shy away fromtudying porn, but theyse it as a case study because it is been so innovative, down to using data write scripts.
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what are examples of the crate of choiceslet's say, an adult film company mht make, based on an analysis of data? t is there a plumbere door or a pizza delivery guy? >> absolutely. d whs the room look like, what is the person wearing? those things can be altered d d manipulateto see what is most popular. reporter: of course, sex cells in any industry. and what smells sexier -- sexy? robots are good at figuring that out. this is marketed by a brazilian perfume company. >> it has a honey note. reporter: this was developed by them, with some help. that is thanks to a partnership with ibm research. it has been nearly a decade since watson won jeopardy.
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since then, ibm's artificialhn intelligence togy has gone to work in, medicine, science manufacturing, business. recently it has taken on more >> for a long time people have been asking if computers can be more intelligent. it is a hard philosophical question to answer. we decided to track a different oblem, creativity. reporter: but, a lot of people were already working on android art or ai music. >> our original idea was to create a robot to go on a cooking show and compete with other chefs. we then realized it would be 10 years to be able to get it to chop up a caret. -- carrot. what really wins is novel ideas to win a show. reporter: from flavors, a short link to fragrances, a
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labor-intensive industry ripe for disruption. >> the work of a perfumeatis frusn. reporter: historically it required a lot of human capital. it tak four years of schooling, years more to become a master. he has four decades under his belt. he has access to millions of infinitely more co tried. if you were tasked with creating a new fragrance, what would your process look like? >> people come, get imagery, storylines, music, textures. what things in my brain connect to the things they are trying to say? ♪ >> i made a fragrance for pavarotti. but truly -- patchouli has a
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his voice. reporter:hat flash of inspiration is not enough. it can take years of tinkering before a formula becomes succesul. >> if you think about perfumery, it is a complex business. every creation is a unique product. to manufacture it out of many ingredients, often too many for my liking, there is inherent inefficiency. one aspect of using artificial intelligence is to become faster, leaner, more agile. reporter: ai can cut costs, but, can it be accretive? -- be creative. he gave me an example. >> she will put etem tr, 50-50. creativity, literally.up the
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reporter: in 90ecds, 10 top contenders. >> i like the suggestns she is giving me. i send it to a lab. reporter: how has introduction of ai change this world for>> y? she knows not just my style. :report did you say she? >> yes, they joke here she is my girlfriend becau we have spent ghts and wkends, trying to understand the way this machine seems to think. reporter:no it is harto anthropomorphize softwine doing someseemingly human. >> i want to be immortal. ait is vain occupation in that sense. every perfumer wants to create
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that magic, nothing you have seen before in a perfume. reporter: could we get to the point where robots take the jobs of artists? in a blind test it did beat out a test. >> they are not going to take all the jobs. they will either help people who are creators give the public what they want. reporter: it raises legal and economic questions. questions we will explore in our next segment. judy: a lot to worry about. that is the newour for tonight. thank you. we will see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour provided by bnsf railway, consumer cellular, anoi with the o support of these institutions -- ♪ >> and, friends of the newshour.
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♪ - you know, one meuld think by this ti we'd know how to make the italian classics. after all, food writers have been going over to italy for half a century to every possible region, every possible town. , well, it turns othat not . we just went to milan and found out risotto can be made in under 15 minutes. p we discovered thta all'amatriciana is not a long-simmered tomato sauce. it's made quickly with a concentrate of tomatoes and meat.