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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, speaking out-- a decorated army officer is the first white house staffer to tell congress about the alarming nature of president trump's push to withhold military aid from ukraine for personal political gain. then rethinking college. hue school in one of baltimore's poorest neighborhoods graduates 95% of its students. and dancing through the years. celebrated choreographer twylatharp on art, aging and the future. >> shut up and do what you love. be grateful >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshou
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house investigators have heard a direct account of the phone call that launched the impeachmen inquiry. it came today from a 20-year military veteran.ho white correspondent yamiche alcindor begins our coverage. m,lcindor: he arrived at the capitol, in unif wearing his medals.ma alexander vindn, an army iteutenant colonel, works for the national seccouncil. on tuesday, he became the first white use official who was on the call between president trump and thpresident of ukraine to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry. that cl happened on july 25th with president volodymyr zelensky and sits at theeart of the decmocrs' investigations. in prepared testimony, vindman said he was "concerned" about what he heard. rdme republicans, like congressman jim of ohio, dismissed the testimony, in advance: >> the fundamental facts have never changed. we can read the call, we know what president trump and president zelenskyy have said. >> alcindor: democrats by
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contrast said it was more confirmation of president trump's misconduct. >> you have a whistleblowert complainthat has been repeatedly validated by trump's own appointees. >> alcindor: vindman said he witnessed attempts to pressure zelensky into opening an investigation of former vice president joe biden and his son hunter. the younger biden was on the ard of a ukrainian gas in his opening statement, vindman said of the july call that, "i did not think it was proper to demand that a fo government investigate a u.s. citizen, and i was worried about the implicationsor the u.s. vernment's support of liraine." he went on: "i rd that if ukraine pursued an investigation into the bidens and d risma, it wokely be interpreted as a partisan play which wouldlt undoubtedly ren ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained." soon after the call, vindman said he relayed his worries to the national security council's top lawyer. hait was the second time h r ised the issue.
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the first was afjuly 10th meeting including gordon sondland, the ambassador to theu europeon, and ukraine's national security adviser. according to vindman, sondland said it was important that ukraine open an investigation if zelenkskyy wanted a meeting with president trump. vindman wrote that he told sondland later that "his statements were appropriate, thathe request to investigate biden and his son had nothing to that such investigations were ett something the n.s.c. was going to g involved in or push." earlier this month, sondland told lawmakers that no one at the n.s.c. ever expressed any concerns. meanwhile, some of president ump's allies attacked vindman and questioned his loyalty to the u.s. "fox and friends" host brian w lmeade: >> we also k was born in the soviet union, emigrated with his family. young. he tends to feel simpatico with the ukraine >> alcindor: and former wisconsin republican congressman sean duffy: >> i don't kncw about his n about american policy, but his main mission was to make sure the ukraine got those
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weapons.we i understand ill have an affinity to our homeland where we came from >> alcindor: the president tweeted without evidence that vindman is a "never trumper." h vindman sa family brought him to the united states from the soviet unihe in 1979, when as three years old. he served in the u.s. military for two d cades. he earpurple heart after being wounded by a roadside bomb in iraq.ar he held alsous diplomatic posts before joining the n.s.c. in 2018 as a ukraine expert. he testified today he has served in a "non-partisan manner". and at least one republican, wying's liz cheney, defend him. >> i think that we need to show that we're better than that as a nation. their patriotism, their love of country we're talking about decorated veterans who have served this nation. >> alcindor: mnwhile, house democrats are now moving toward holding a formal vote onhe impeachment inquiry, and public hearings. this afternoon, the text of the resolution was released. it gives republicans some of what they have been demanding
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not holding a house floor voteor on the inquiry. the house is eected to vote thursday on the resolution. >> woodruff: and yamiche joins me now, along with lisa desjardins who's been watching is all from capitol hill. hello to both of you. lisa, i'm going the stth you. what too we know now about what the democrats are proposing to impeachment process?i >> we just got a look at these details in the last couple of hour first let's talk about this resolution, what it doesn't do. its not specifically changing the status of this impeachment inquiry. it's not a testthf whe this is a formal inquiry or not. eadycrats maintain it alr has been. this lays out procedures, a framework for going ahead with their impeachment investigation. so let's talk. that what republicans are getting thathey like out of this is public hearings. that's something we know the public wants, as well. here's how those will work. it will be held by the intelligence committee only, and ring those committee, how lawyers for both sides may question the wit pnesses.
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boties will get equal time. members can question, as well. they will probably have less time than the lawyers. appy republicans are unh though, because in this process these rules mean th the republicans will not be able to subpoena witnesses on their ow after those public hearings, then the plan is to move to the judiciary committee and an impeachment debate based on what the intelligence committee finds. during that process is when the president and his attorney y be present. that attorney can object and cross-examine witnesses. again, republicans will not be able to subpoena without essentially help from the democrats,fhe blessing o democrats, which is something republicans do not like. it's notable that the intelligence committee is going to be doing this public hearing on their own. there are only 22 members of congress. this is small group that democrats are focusing on first of all. e're looking at a judiciary highly dramatic.s that will be only really the third time in modern history we've seen anything like this. democrats are laying the groundwork now. >> woodruf so yamiche, we
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wiknow this vote, ther be a formal vote as we heard on thursd on this impeachment what is the whitese saying? what is their thinking now in terms of are they going to be more cooperative in terms of witnesses, in terms of documents oncermhere is this al vote? >> the white house have very unhappy th this resolution. they're making that very clear tonight. in the last couple minutes the white hse press secrery put out a statement, and she said essentially this is an illegitimate continuation of what she sees as an illegitimate scam. hee says this does nothing to changeundamental fact that house democrats refuse to to this administration. rig and they're taking issue with two big things. the first is the white house participation. as lisa just laid out, the white house is really included in the second part of. this it's when the judiciary committee gets involved, and the white house is basicallysaying, that's a one-sided hearing in the house intelligence. and then you have a biased report for the judiciary committee, an then get to finally get to be involved. they also say the white house
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wesn't really have itsn rights defined. it's not clear some they're essentially sartng it's unn how the white house is going to be able to actually have an input many this processl i shouldyou they was talking to a senior white house official before this text came out. they said, i'm really worried this will provide cover forut democrats,t's not going to solve the fundamental issues that republicans have, and tonight eventually the white house says, this is not solving withe issues that we haveth this investigation and with this inquiry. so it seems ws though thete house will not comply with any sort of witness requests or anyt of document requests. >> woodruff: yamic, continuing with all this today, this very concerning testimony from colonel vindman. how is it thought that fits into the inquirand what is the white house saying about it? vindman is seen as a criticaler witness in this impeachment he came to congress and essentially said he was concerned about the president pushing fothese investigations into ukraine.
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he also said that he basically wanted to come forward as a patriot, and his testimony led to a very fie ryck-and-forth between lawmakers. so the recording i have is republicans were being accused by democrats of trying to sh the lieutenant colonel to reveal the identity of the whistleblower, and democrats said that was entially not fair. in his opening statement that we got last sght, vindman say very clearly, i'm not the whistleblower and i do not know who the whistblower is, but essentially democrats are saying republicans are still trying to push him with that. the other thing to note is that president trump has been tweeting that he wants to know who the whistleblower is, he's also been lashing out at vindman. he said he is a never trumper, even though there is no evidence of tha i he said this someone he didn't know, even though he's on the national security council.ki he's still w at the white house right now. i want to walk you through the time line that vindman laid out here. first there is this july 10, 2019 meeting with ukrainian and tou.s. officials in washi d.c. vindman says ambassador sondland, a political appointee, the ambassador to the europe union,tarted to speak out
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asking ukraine for specific investigations. he says then that the naol security advisor, john bolton, essentially several u.s.d that officials said to ambassador sondland, this is ippropriate. he said, i myself went to ambassador sondland and said, this inappropriate, youcan't talk about this investigation to ukraine. vindman then is so frustted and so concerned that he goes to the lead counsel on this. so that's first time he goes to that. then move forward to july 25th phone call. vindman is on the call listening. ent trump mentions the bidens, talks tact fact that he wants to have a favor from ukraine. vindman again goes to the nsc lead counsel and says for a second time, i am very, very concerned some how he fitin is there are several key players that have come to congress that actions that what s seenr firsthand some you have someone really describing what was going on before the call and after the call.>> woodruff: so lisa, backo you, clearly things are moving very quickly with this all,
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these developments. do we have a sense now of thein time on impeachment, and seo else remains to be called before tcommittees? >> if anyone says they know for happening, that's just not true. we don't know yet, but i think we're narrowing down the wndow that crass -- democrats are looking at. i think generally, judy to, sum it up, tis is a quick time line and we'll talk more about this, this is a newsletter about this. you can look at that online, but uickly, judy to, tell you, it does look like could be headed toward a full house vote on impeachment as soon as thd e december or beginning of january. now. seems to be the path right >> woodruff: and that's in the house. >> that's in the house only. and then that would set up the senate trial following that potentially into december, more likely january. >> woodruff: january 2020. all right. lisa, yamiche, thank you both. >> woodruff: thanks. >> thanks.
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>> woodruff: in the day's other news, high winds fueled new fire dangers and new power blkouts in california. stephanie sy has our report. >> reporter: the winds across northern california are picking the fires will only get worse. sonoma county sheriff mark essick told evaces today not to go home yet. get a lot of questions aboutna repopulation, how people can get back to their homes, lots ofxi y and anxiousns there. >> reporter: communities acrosal northernornia are also facing more blackouts. the new high wind advisory prompted pacific gas andbe electric tn cutting off power for the fourth time this month.im it's aed at preventing downed lines from sparking e w fires. but equency of the frayed nerves and ations.ng to more than 1.5 million people are affected, on top of 2.5 million who lostower over the weekend. then, there are the many people anxiously waiting for the all-
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clear. >> it's quite frustratg. i mean all the resources and everything that's going on is great. but it's really frustrating not owing, having no idea. >> reporter: and to the south, in los angeles, daylight revealed damag homes and scorched hillsides from a fire near the famed getty arts complex. l.a. mayor eric garcetti warne that smoke clearing does not mean the area is completely safe. >> i'm sure we all have gotten phone calls saying and having conversations with people saying "well there's not a smoke, it should be fine to go home." i want to coinue to tell people, listen to the professionals and fire fighters who are asking you to stay away yoand mandating stay away. >> reporter: wind speeds are expected to peak with gusts up to 80 miles per hour overnight, on both ends of california. for the pbs newshour, i'm stephanie sy. >> woodruff: in iraq, a bloodbath overnight sparked one of the largest anti-government protests yet. the killings happened inal karb where masked gunmen shot dead 18 people and wounded
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hundreds at a tent encampment. hours later, thousands of people cked baghdad's main square, as t police firr gas. in geneva, a united nations' spokesman called the rbaorts out of k "particularly disturbing." >> wcall on the authorities launch investigations into the usedof force, on these conti killings and injuries that are taking place, and to really d uckle down to a meaningful dialogue to try duce the tension and bring some satisfaction to the situation. have died in the ps that0 people began october first, demanding jobs and an end to corruption. lebanon's embattled prime minister resigned today, afterne ly two weeks of mass protests in that country. saad hariri handed his resignation to president michel aoun, after saying he had "hit a dead end." protesters in beirut welcomed the news.
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>> ( translated ): it was expected, under the pressure of this people's uprising. is something joyful for the lebanese people because he was one of the symbols of authority and of the authority's strength. they really should all be held accountable. >> woodruff: earlier, supporters of the shiite militia hezbollah torched a protesters camp and beat people up. hezbollah is part of lebanon'sli coalition. the deadline ran out today for syrian kurdish fighters to withdraw from a strip of land near the border with turkey. turkey said russia confirmed the kurds had complied. the so-called "safe zone"es extends 19 mnto northeastern syria. tuowish and russian forces n plan joint patrols in a narrower ne. later tut the u.s. house of representatives passed two measures to punish turkey for invading syria. it approved sanctions, and it formally recognized armenian nocide in turkey a century ago, seen as a thumb in the eye
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to the turks. the british parliament aaleed today toa december election, to break months ofad delock over brexit. prime minister boris johnson pushed to let the public decide who can best deliver briin's departure from the european union. >> there is only one way tget brexit done, in the face of this unrelentg parliamentary obstructionism. this endless, willful, fingers crossed, not-me-guv, refusal to deliver on the mandate of the people and that is, mr. speaker, to refresh this parliament. >> woodruff: the decion came after the opposition labour changed course, and agre to the early election. ish police are now hunti two brothers from northern ireland in the deaths of 39 grants. the victims were found last week in a containerasruck in soutrn england. it's now been confirmed that some were vietnamese. the truck's driver has already been charged. judge in alabama has temporarily
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blocked a state law banning nearly all abortions. the measure is part of a wave of state ws pushed by abortion opponents who hope to get the issuback before the u.s. supreme court. a major coal mining compan filed for federal bankruptcy protection today, the 8th in the past year to do so. murray eney is the largest private coal miner, with nearly 7,0 employees. demand for coal has plummeted as utilities switch to eaper natural gas and renewable energy. and, on wall street: the dow jones industrial average lost 19 points to close at 27,071.sd the na fell 49 points, and the s&p 500 slipped two. still to come on the newshour: the c.e.o. of boeing comes face to face with lawmakers a year to the day after a fatal crash, and
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much more. b >> woodrufing's 737 max planes have yet to return to the skies worldwide. governments, airlines and passengers all remain concerned abouthe airplanes' safety issues after a pair of crashes in indonesia and ethiopia last year. the investigations have opened d into much bigger questions about boeing and its larger culture when itomes to safety and certification of new planes. its c.e.o. came to capitol hill for the first of two days of hearings about accountability. and as john yang tells us, h was in the cross hairs.
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>> yang: a year to the day after the lion air crash in indonesia, some of the most powerful witnesses at today's hearing didn't speak: families the 346 people killed in two crashes of boeing 737 max planes ve months apart. they were there with photos of their loved ones as boeing c.e.o. dennis muilenberg faced the senate commerce committee. he began with an apology to the families. >> on behalf of myself and the d ng company we are sorry truly eply sorry. >> yang: senators from both parties slammed muilenberg onet questions of sand accountability. some flatly accused him of outright decepti he was asked whether damaging information had beenback about the automated flight control system, known as m-cas, that has bn blamed for the ashes. democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut.
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>> boeing came to my office shortly after these crashes and said they were a result of pilot error. those pilots never had a chance >> yang: the hearing was tense and senators showed patience with muilenberg as in this exchange with democrat jon tester of montana. >> we share your fus on safety and can say one priority. >> but we failed in this case and there is a whole bunch of people going through incredible anguish because we failed. >> yang: recently disclosed documents show a test pilot complained in november 2016 that the system was "running rampant" in simulator tests. muillenberg indicated he knew about that after the first crash, but boeing did not hand over the documents to investigators until much later. republican ted cruz of texas.
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>> you are the c.e.o. how did your team not run inth air on fire and say we have a real problem here? >> yang: after the hearing, family members said muilenberg's apology was too little, too late. >> i was hoping today that he will at least answer some estions. why he did not ground the plane five months after the lion crash, because if he did, my daughter would sti be here and muilenberg ito be back in the hot seat tomorrow, this time in front of the house transportation committee. david shepardson is the transportation reporter r reuters and covered today's hearing. david, thanks for being with us. we saw in that piece how angry the senators were. what did muilenburg seem to be trying to accomish at the hearing an how successful was he? moved beyond the initial message
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of just, we're going the make a safe plane safer.ac he did knowledge mistakes that the company did fail to disclose. erese text messages w referenced. and they didn't disclose to the f.a.a. about a censor indicator light. but ind eneral he staaway from a lot of the specific questions that the senators had, raising did they make critical mistes during tha 2016 time frame in the development of m-cas and the certhtification of airplane. >> yang: how badly was his credibility hurt on ssue of the text messages from the pilot, the test pilot, saying that the system was runng ramp rampant in the simulator years, months before the crashes. >> that's angered just about administration said why did you wait months to turn this over when you handed it over to thepa justice ment in february. it really goes back to the senators' angers over a number of different buckets. first there is the issue of did they problemmerly design the
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plane m-cas. we now know the anti-stall system d not have the safeguards the f.a.a. is demanding in order to return to service. the second issue is did boeing do enough between first cra, lion air, and the second crash in march, and why didn't those concerns that have now been raised in thse text messages and other things, why didn't that raise, senator cruz said, immediate laterals. why didn't they take further actions before march? and finally thye issue, wh did it take so long after march to turn over thamaterial? >> yang: a lot of questions about the process of approving this airi as airorthy to fly. a lot of talk about the coziness between theto regu and the regulated, the industry. is congress likely to dot something abat do you think? >> well, they're going to be shifting on a dime if they do,us beremember, as recently as october of 2018, just before this crash, the congress moved to give more pow and auhority to airlines, to the manufacturers to do more of the work some thiscase i don't think we'll see immediate action. everyone on both sides of the c
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aisle agree thanges need to be made. f.a.a. is understaffed and some of the officials don't have boeing employees feel undue pressure to get these planes certified faster. so i do think you're going to see some reform, but there'ses still the invgation into ethiopian airlines. there's also other reports in the f.b.i. and the department of justice are still investigating. >> yang: wow were in the committee room today. what was the impact? wh t w effect of having those families in the room andh havingm stand and show the pictures of their loved ones? >> it was incredibly moving. remember, many of these family members are still deeply sad. they're walking ound op wounds from losing family members. there is father who lost his entireamily in the ethiopian crash, and when they stood up, you really could hear a pin drop in that room. and there was another moment en mr. muilenburg left the hearing and one member said, you directly, and he turned to the mother of a young woman who died
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and said, "i'm sorry." clearly boeing is trying to show more contrition. he met with the indonesian ambassador last night to express more sympanoy. but this it it by a long shot. there are still more reports. there is anoth rough day of hearings ahead. the question is will this be enough for the families, and there are still the lawsuits to be resolved. >> yang: david shepardson of reuters, thank you so much. >> thanks. 'v >> woodruff: as heard tonight, so much of the news thesdays centers on ukraine. now, we turn to one of the darkest chapters in that couny's history-- the explosion at the chernobyl nuclear plant. that came fore its independence from the soviet union. special correspondent mon ostrovsky in northern ukraine tells us how that darkness is now pierced by a weird, and radioactive light. >> reporter: something strange
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is happening in chernobyl. the site of the world's worst radiological catastrop coming back to life. it's not the residents who are reurning or nature taking overay as youave heard. it's tourists, and they're coming in droves. thanks in part, to an american tv show. >> get us over the building or ll have you shot. >> if you fly directly over that core i promise you tomorrow morning you'll be begging for that bullet. reporter: tyler ackley is an american visiting the chernobyl exclusion zone, with his father in law, in part, thanks to the critically acclaimed hbo miniseries dramatizing the disaster that came outarlier this year. >> i thought it was fascinating, i thought as my wife and i were watching the series, oh great, now it's going ttobe a popular ist destination before we get a chance to go there. hopefully it's not too crowded or anything like that. >> reporter: the series brought not just the chronology of theag disaster into relief like never before, it also exposed
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shined a light on the top-heavy soviet bureaucracy of the time oat tried to hide the sco the accident from its own people d from the world. >> what you're proposing is that legasov humiliate a nation that is obsessed with not being humiliated we can make a deal with the kgb. you'll leave this inrmation out in vienna, they quietly let us fix the remaini reactors. >> deal with the kgb? and i'm naive. from the show chernobylscenes miniseries, which we won't show here, have inexplicably fail to deter visitors from the exclusion zone, as the area around chernobyl, where habitation is forbidden, is known >>eell obviously we did som research to see how dangerous it is from the radiation and we saw that with the tours it'll be really safe. >> yeah, even though i started to get like a little panicked as it was coming up. searching if it actually is safe or not, so yeah, still a little scared. >> reporter: sergii mirnyi, founder of one of several travel agencies bringing people to
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chernobyl told us there's been a dramatic increase in interest. the interest of the chernobyld ne. but we predict that l it will e 30% increase. and so is the effect of uh, the hbo miniseries, we expect not sure, 150,000, visitors in the zone in this year. >> reporter: 150,000 people. maybe not much for the mona exactly have pluto41 onesn't display, eithe so these are our personal dosimeters, th're supposed to tell the researchers here how much every tourist absorbs in terms of radiation during their trip to the chernobyl exclusion zone. we're right at the checkpoint w, and from here, it's to the reactor. guides do what they can to reassure nervous visitors about the dose of radiation they'll get on a typic day trip to the
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exclusion zone. you know maybe that no where in the world we have zero is potassium 14.th to telsame potassium 14 contained in our favorite fruits, who knows which fruit? bananas! bananas and nuts as well. if one day, you have a chance and you surround yourself with 40 bananas you will get the sam le radiation that you will presence in the exclusion zone.b >> repor the reassurances also come with a warning not to stray fromou blunder into a radioactive hot spot. >> if you decide to roll on the ground, hug trees, hug animals, there is a chance there will be contamination but if you don't do this everything will be alrigh
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>> reporter: underneath this brand new shelter behind me is chernobyl reactor number four which in 1986 exploded and sent lethal doses of radioactive exclusion zone.hout the but as you can see, it's actually not that clusive. the draw is obvious. chernobyl is billeas an open air museum of the soviet era, uninhabited for 33 years, since mikhail gorbachev was in charge. frozen in time. taken over by nature. >> chernobyl for me is kind of a mecca of sorts. back home i'a professor of russian literature, history, culture. i grew up in the height of the cold war. i remember climbing under desks threats.y did mock nuclear bomb this debris and destruction here for me it's kind of symbolic too, of the soviet era.
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>> reporter: do you ike chernobyl might have been the beginning of the end for the soviet union? >> absolutely, i think it fell under heavy criticism from thend world for thathe moment gorbachev tried to correct soviet policies, the moment he tried to open things up, i don't think he knew what he was opening up. and i think the aftermath of that burned pretty hot. >> reporter:s of septemberha mon 90,000 people have visited, that's already well fove more than the number people who decided to brave chernobyl in the whole of 2018, according to the exclusion zone administration. this is actually my third trip to chernobyl, but my first one after watching the hbo television series and i've got to say it's a bit of a different experience because chernobyl is a disaster that i've known about all my life but i haven't had aa emotiocoection to it. and now walking around these abandoned buildings i'm imagining the drama that played out here that i saw in the show.
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chernobyl lies now in an independent ukraine; then, it was the ukrainian soviet socialist republic. and for ukrainians, who are all too familiar with the consequences of the disaster, the show has served as a fresh reminder of what life was like under moscow rule. >> i believe that the hbo h miniseri reminded the many ukrainians uh, about uh,it neceuh, to have controls of their lives and the, the lives of their community, of their country, uh, closer tond their own because it's a terrible feeling when, when yout are onrely on somebody else's decision, who is very, very reme, and, may or may not care about you at all. >> reporter: for the pbs newshour i'm sime ostrovsky in chernobyl exclusion zone.
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>> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: will the n.c.a.a. allow college athletes to cash in on their fame? and choreographer twyla tharp-- 78 and n slowing down at all. baltimore is a city that has long struggled with poverty, crime and a high unemployment rate. another crucial challenge to tackling those problems: public high school graduation rates which are currently around 70%. special correspondent hari sreenivasan recently visited a charter middle and high school bucking those trends, graduating 95% of seniors and sending them on to colleges or careers. his report is the latest in our special series on rethinking college, and part of our regular grade.ion segment, making the >> in the name of jesu ylord just tha for giving us this day to watch over jordan and amanda. >>gireenivasan: every day be with a prayer in the home of nicole mcclinton wilks and her two children, amanda and jordan westbrook.n mcclinlks, a single mom
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who works as a security guard and has to leave earlyor work, worries about amanda's safety on her morning commute through the surrounding neighborhoods. dat she's relieved when am arrives at her destination: an educational oasis in theeart of west baltimore. amanda, who is 17, is a senior at the green street academy, a 6th through 12th grade crter school started in 2010 thatab currently has out 850 students. in many ways, it a typical school with courses like science and spanish. but there's a lot about green street that's not typical for urban school. students here are exposed to a wide-range of opportunities to explore and learn outside of the classroom. on a recent afternoon, amanda and her classmates tended to a flock of well-loved chickens on the eight acre fm behind the school. >> we produce the chicken eggs, and we'll sell to different places like stores and restaurants around the
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neighborhood. to work with these anils and stuff to actually get thatie hands-on ence, it just makes me happy. >> sreenivasan: four years ago, the school moved to its current location-- a renovated historic building that was once a junior high before being abandoned about 30 years ago. there's a lottery to get in. last year, more than 1,000 applied for 250 openings. according to the school, 90% of graduating seniors in the spring were accepted into two and four- year college programs. in a greenhouse, students learn to grow produce and incorporate it into meals they make at pop- up restaurants. tanks full of tilapia and perch in the school's bament provide hands-on expure to aquaculture, one of the country's fastest growing food production iustries. all that training, and oth career-focused courses like construction management and nursing, are part of the school's primary goal: to give
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experiences they n bend successful after high school, ready for both college and careers. >> i think adults sometimes kind of limit kids' options, by telling them that it has to be ie way or the other, when at our schos not like that at all. >> sreenivasan: crystal harden- lindsey is the executive director of the school. every morning, she and other senior staff visit classrooms to check on students. 97% of green street students qualify for free or reduced lunches. ts who need extra suppor get regular counseling and tutoring. theen-lindsey says one school's top priorities-- getting students into high been a big boost to students and their families.at >> what we dreen street is we provide a way for them tohi make money going to school and restructure the trajectory of their lives by saou can make money, you can also give back to your community, you can also go to college, it doesn't have to be you choose one or the other. it can be a combination of things.
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>> sreenivasan: that dl emphasis on college and careers is reiorced throughout students' time at green street. by 9thrade, students are required to have resumes and they are encouraged to consider reers they may not have: >> i want us to take a deeper look into stem fields and jobs. >> sreenivasan: college logos line the school's hallys and seniors have to apply to at least one community college or university. several counselors stay on t of their plans. >> i would like for you to do a little bit more research and pick one more maryland college. >> sreenivasan: on a recent afternoon, the school's seniors gathered for alass meeting about the year ahead. >> i need our green street kids to go in there and wow people. >> sreenivasan: tia-shon kelley is the director of internships and student enrichment at green street. she was promoting an internship, through an organization called urban alliance, which ovides intensive workplace training. students are then placed in paid internships with baltimore businesses including bank of america and johns hopkins. a w land permanent jobs after
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they graduate. >> i'm going to specifically speak to those of you who know you are not going to college. n if yd a full-time job when you graduate this is your shot! >> sreenivasan: for the past three years, kelley has been building the school's internship program and now close to 60% of the gh school students participate, but she says it's not always easy. have stopped dreaming. our kids when you ask them what you want to be, it's very flatline,ey because on't believe it can happen for them. it happens for everybody else. letting them see "hey, this is your peer, they did john hopkins o st year, they loved it, they're going to again this year. you try it. or try the law program. we have law links. just keeping them exposed. >> sreenivasan: amanda westbrook has participated in several internships, including one with kaiser-permanente where her payment was a $1,000 collegep. scholarshi that will come in handy next year-- she's currently applying to colleges and hopes to be a marine biologist one day.
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>> try that piece righthere. >> sreenivasan: amanda's big brother jordan, who graduated frg, green street last sprin decided to go the career route. he's now in a paid construction traing program earning certifications. >> i knew i didn't really want go to college, so i just knew that once i graduated i really i'm pretty good with my hands so i want to do construction. >> sreenivasan: mom nicole mcclinton wilks says green street has given her children opportunities that matched their interests. >> amanda wants school, jordan doesn't want school. jordan, this is what he wants, it's not my dreams, but his dreams. and that's what i lith. don't sell a fake dream here, they give you reality. >> sreenivan: for most green street graduates, the reality is school and work go hand in handa >> the panis right here. at sreenivasan: recent grad micaela wilson-wy is at coppin state university just 10 evnutes away from green street. while studying ttually become an o.b.g.y.n., she's also she says green strepared her to juggle both. >> i was prepared based on my
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time management, becau that's one thing they always, always stressed. time management, don't neprocrastin get it don time. >> sreenivasan: back at green street academy, students are harvesting apples and enjoying and in the coming months, the school will begin a capital campaign for a newnnovation center focused on living-wage career training for both students and their parents. for the pbs newshour, i'm hari sreenivasan in baltimore, maryland. >> woodruff: for decades, the governing body overseeing collegiate sports, the n.c.a.a., position that student athletes should not be financially compensated for their performance on the field or on the court.but today for the fir, the n.c.a.a. seemed to open the door toward a change. but as william brangham tells us, the announcement comes with ny caveats.
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>> brangham: judy, the n.c.a.a. ing a wave of new pressu from california and a dozen other states. californ recently signed a law that amuld allow student athletes to profit off their image and likenesses, including from sports merchandise and video games.ch thge would not take effect until 2023. but other states are considering followg suit. today, the n.c.a.a.'s board of governors acknowledged that pressure and voted to consider allowing a similarractice throughout college sports. but it is just the beginning of a very long path. and the n.c.a.a. still maintains there will still be ear distinctions between amateur and professional athletes. let's break this down with sportswriter and author john feinstein. he's written numerous books about n.c.a.a. sports and is a columnist for the "washington post." welcome back. >> william, thanks. >> brangham: so this got a ton of attention today. the headlines said ncaa finally relents. they will allow athletes to get their money and ean what they
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bring in for these schools. giovanni lebron said this was a beautiful day for college athletes. whatid the ncaa actually say today? >> well, first of all, william, what they did was ey were like the robber coming out of a bank who is surrounded by the policey eld up their hands and said, we give up. >> brangham: i have neverjo d bank robbing. i totally disavow it. >> i'm really sorry.t' now negotiate. the second thing they were saying, is we've got. lifornia, you don't nee a law. other states, you don't need a law. there are two bills in congress that would federalize the law. we've got this. an we're going to take care of our, as they like to call the student-athletes, which is one of the great myths of our time in terms of the big-time football and men's basketball players, because they're training to be professional athletes. there's nothing wong with that, but they want to maintain this myth that they're somehow amateurs. iney're not. they're recruitea different way. they travel in a different way. they have locker rooms that are bigger than this set is here.
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and they live in luxury because they're semi-pro.th i don't thinkre's anything wrong with that because they make huge money for thebu universitieswhat they're saying is, okay, we've got this, an we're going to pay them, buet f you read through this list that's in front of me here -- ngham: this is statement the ncaa put out. >> from the ncaa with all these caveats. one is we still want thest guish between amateur athletes and professional athlety . well, exacw do you do that? there's no real answer in terms of paying them. remember, the schools are not paying them. outside agencies are the onesl that we allowed to pay them. they say, well, we still have to make sure that reruiting isn't affected by this. first of all, any change to thing, but secondly, what they're saying, if you're being big basketball power, has more a money fromni al that it can legally offer to you because you're a star baketball player, but american university here in washington doesn't have nearly
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that money, then kentucky has an unfair advantage, except those unfa advantages already exst in facilities and how you travel and things like that. >> brangham: so what is the ncaa doing? i get you're trying to say they're holding off the state and conditional effort, but they are at least -- they've directed their three visions to open the door to possibly allow students to be compensated. isn't that progress in some way? >> well, it is a small first ep. it is.ain, it is... that's all again, they're trying to hold off te avalanche that's coming in their direction of people saying, we're not buying this bid that the sky will fall if college athletes get paid by outside agencies or as the president of the ncaa said, it's an existential issue. i guess i'm not smart enough to understand. what is an existential issue when it comes to paying people
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some they're trying to say, we've got it. we're going to work this out's eally an opening bargaining ploy. they'll say, we'll do this, and the lawmakers are going to say, no, we want that. then they'll say, what about this. and they're going to try to give away as little of the store as they can so the schools and the ncaa itself can continue to rake in the billions of dollars thy make off of these kids. >> brangham: that's the essential argument, the economic fairness argument, thathe students are the revenue drivers and no one is there to se the coaches and then the grand stands and all that. they're there toee the athletes play anne those athletes ought to get a slice of that pie. there are people who come to see the coaches, and they'refo compensatethat. coaches in big-time programs make seven-figure salaries. but let's use zion williamson, a freshman at duke last year, who is the first pick in the nba draft. the money that he alone brought
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in duke, to the acc, the conference duke plays in, to the f ncaa as part otir billion, multibillion dollar tv contract, can't be calculated. what did he get in return? tuition, books, an fees. period. why can't he go out while he's still in college and sell a car? why can't hedo an autograph show the way professional athletes do and get paid for that? >> brangham: so the ncaa says, we'll look at this. you're arguing it's bargaining ploy. how does this end up lastly? >> it's going to end up with some sort of rule being put in place that will alle athletes to make --ism you thinn that's a forconclusion? >> it has to be. certain things have their time. theis edsel gone. this is going. the ncaa is going to fight as hard as it can to give away as possibly. the athletes as it n they're going to continue to perpetuate this myth of the student-athlete, and but
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eventually they're going to have to give in, because if they don't, congress is going to step in and pass a law. >> brangham: john feinstein, always suca pleasure to talk to you. >> thanks, william. >> woodruff: finally tonight: a groundbreaking career in dance has led to an innovative approach to health and aging, and a new book released today. jeffrey brown went to the american ballet theater recently to stay in step with twyla tharp. it's part of our ongoing arts and culture coverage, canvas. >> sternum up,reathe deep, shoulders back, and now we stride. tharp in allowing our bodies to take up space, even as we grow older. what she refers to as amplitude. >> amplitude: moving out,ng constantly feehat you can move out. r
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as age becomlity, i think we start to retreat, we retract, we become protective, we become secluded, and we begin to ossify and decline and degenerate, as >> brown: but the body becoming smaller, in a way it is becoming smaller. >> well, that's its problem. let's just get on with i shall we? >> brown: tharp is one of the great choreographers of our age, and at 78 she's got a new dance. we met at a rehearsal at the american ballet theater, and a new book: "keep it moving: lessons for the rest of your life." >> i wrote this to help others believe that constantly you can be evolving. that you do not stop learning. that you don't acceprumor that as the body ages it becomes less. it becomes different. hopefully, more. >> brown: so do you think of this as a self-help book? >> i look at it as self- survival book. dance and music lessons of allk kinds. in the 1960s she was dancing and
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choreographing as part of an important experimental modern dance scene. and by the '70s, she was creating groundbreaking worksde like "e coupe" for the joffrey ballet. set to music by the beach boys, it brought together elements of both ballet and modern dance. she made "push comes to shove" for mikhail baryshnikov, part of an acclaimed partnership that included the award-winning pbs special "baryshnikov by tharp" in 1984. dance after dance, combining rigor and boundless . she also choreographed films, and the broadway hit, "movin'," lyt" to the music of boel. tharp has been recipient of pretty much every prestigious
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artistic award, including a kennedy center honorn 2008. series of exercisend says:"es a age is not the enemy. stagnation is the enemy" >> we all have that laid on us by our culture. being squirmy is not really-- you can't do this at dinner parties, but this is how you keep your system, your metabolic system rolling. you don't do it like this. >> brown: you can't do this but you want me to, you want us to. >> yeah, because if you keep doing this, chanceare your body is going to be more productive in the moment and you'll have something left in particularly as you become oldeo anbuy into this reality that older folks can do less. okay, prove it. >> brown: her own physical regime is legendary. we watched an early morning workout at her home studio:th
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breag and stretching... cycling... and various kinds of strengthce and resistxercises. >> i could bench my body weight for three and i dead-lifted 227 pounds. >> brown: wow! hich is twice my bodyweight, okay? but i developed core strength that thelassical dancer esn't have. now, in mang a piece of this sort, i can brinthat kind of physical intelligence to them and say, "try it thiway." >> brown: in fact, her new dance, notated er three months in intricate detail, directly addresses aging. titled "a gathering ofhosts," it's made for dancer herman cornejo, now 38, who's being honored this season for 20 years at the a.b.t. beyond talent, tharp says, the quality she most looks for in a
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dancer is optimism. >> have a sense that you can do it, and if you don't you'lfix it. you'llake it work and you're going to laugh this time. no, you haven't failed. you'd turn it into comedy.>> rown: you've had, of course, great success. but you've also experienced failure-- >> really? are you kidding? >> brown: i'm sorry to tell you. but you advise us inbook to accept those failures, right? to take risks. >> they're not failures. >> brown: what are they? >> they're adventures a different kind. you may not have gotten what you set out to get, but there is something to be learned from >> brown: there was a profile in the times that says, i'm quoting: "miss tharp remains among the very few female >> oh, please! give me a break. >> brown: "...to have had a lasting influence on baly,t." >> oine. why don't they say, "one of the few short choreographers to have an influence on the ballet"? the female nomenclature is highly abusive. g itttoizing and it's irrelevant to what i've done. >> brown: you don't want to hear >> i'm not interes i'm a worker.
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i'm an artist. i make dances. end of story. judge me with thbest, don't judge me with the best women. >> brown: you wrote in the book that you're always asked, "how do you keep working?" and the subtext, as you say, i"" at your age." what's the answer? >> day by day, dly. do it every day. it's what i do. that means i look at the past to of what doesn't work, and build on what does work. >> brown: and in the meantime, the final piece of advice that you give all of us in this book is, "shut up and dance." >> that's right.ut p and do what you love and be grateful and keep doing it and stop second guessing it.et "i'mng old. i can't do what i love." bull ( bleep ), in a word. it's goingo change, that's l. it's not going to be the same. it's going to be difrent. >> brown: the dance is "a gathering of ghosts." i the bo"keep it moving." for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown at the american
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ballet theater in new york. >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see u soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> the ford foundation. working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. >> and with the ongog support of these institutions and individuals.
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