captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newghshour to a clearer picture-- testimony from the state department official who raised concerns about the bidens is accuses the president's personay of waging a campaign based on lies to oust the then, the fires are contained, but the anger still burns, with california officials weighing a breakaway from the energy giant implicated in the crisis. and,s genealogy allows law enforcement to rpen cases long ne cold, investigators see a triumph for justice, while the wrongly accused see an invasion of privacy undone.that cannot be >> you canyo change phone number if someone starts

harassing you. you can change your address if things get really dark. but you can't cancel your genome, you can't edit your genome. >> woodruff: plus, from the silver screen to the streets-- legendary actress jane fonda on her lifetime of activism and the fight against the climate crisis. >> we have to not be afraid and we have to see this as the way good citizens of the united states need to act. we need to be in the strts making our demands heard. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major fundine for the pbs hour has been providedy: >> and b foundation. p. sloan supporting science, technology,

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his political foes. george kent also said the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, told lies about u.s. ambassador marie yovanovitch. vice president pence again defended his bnes in concord, hampshire. >> the american people have the transcript of the president's call, and they can see there was no quid pro quo. the president did nothing wrong. what's going on in washington, d.c. today is a disgrace. >> woodruff: also today, the president denied asking attorney general william barr to defend his july phone call with ukraine's leader, or that barr refused we'll get details after the news summary. a state judge in new york has ordered president trump to pay $2 million over claims that he misused his charitable fodation. the state charged that the trump foundatiohin funneled mey t 2016 campaign. the foundation denied

seongdoing, but has cits doors and will disburse remaining fds to other non- ofits. there is news tonight michael blockberg is close to entering the democratic presidential race. the "newshour" confirmed that he is serngusly explo and is expected to enter the alabama primary nextch m the 77-year-old billionaire had said that he would not run, but his political advisor now saysat bloomberg believes 216 democrats whether running ar not wellpositioned to beat president trump. in iraq, security forces killed at least six more protesters, and wounded 35, n baghdad. thwere shot as they tore down part of a barrier built to keep them from government offices in the so-called "green zone." but the demonstrators remained defiant. >> ( translated ): you politicians have destroyed the untry. the security forces of both the ministries of defense and

ngterior are with you, hit us, why? are you subordinateo these partes? these parties should be rooted out. no party will remain. >> woodruff: later, four prtetes were shot dead as security forces broke up a sit- in the southern city of basra. tensions over iran's nuclear program intensified today. tehran has now resumed enrichin uranium gas, violating a nuclear accord that the u.s. renounced last year. today, secretary of state mik pompeo condemned what he called "nuclear extortion." meanwhile, iran claimed it barren.d a uclear inspector last week, because she had traces of explosives on her. the u.n. nuclear agency denied it. the international criminal court handed down a maximum sentence of 3 years today for a congolese warlord known as "the terminator." bosco ntaganda showed no emotion during his sentencing at the hague, in the netherlands.

he'd been convicted of war imes and crimes against humanity. the case stemmed from congo's bloody ethnic conflict between 2002 and 2003. police inrance have dismantled two makeshift camps in northern paris, where more than 1,600 refugees had been living in tents. the migrants, mostly from sub- saharacan afwere escorted into buses. authorities said they would be taken to public shelters, but support groups voiced concern. >> ( translated ): we don't know yet what soluons are proposed, besides temporary housing in a sports hall. we knt ew te situation in these camps was worsening and that nothing was done about that. but we regret that these are still temporary solutions and not preventive measures. >> woodruff: france has seen an influx of migrants and refuge, but the government has now pledged to "take back control" of immigration. funerals began in northern meco today for nine americans killed by drug cartel gunmen.

about 500 mourners gathered in the farming town of la mora, 70 miles south of the arizona border. a mother and two of her sons were the first to be laid to rest. meanwhile, the investigation continued. offic mials say the kille have mistaken the americans for a rival gang. back c in thntry, chicago police superintendent eddie johnsgon announced he is retir at year's end. he had acknowledged drinking beforthe falling asleep a wheel of his car at a stop sign. he had also been heavily criticized by president tru over crime in chicago. today, johnson brushed aside the criticism but acknowledged the wear and tear of three years as superintendent. >> this job has taken its toll. it's taken a toll on my health, my family, my friends. but my integrity remains intact, and i'm proud of what the department has accomplished during my tenure. >> woodruff: johnson took the

post in 2016 amid an outcry over a white officer shooting a black teen 16 times. the number of people with illnesses linked to vaping in e u.s., has passed the 2,000 mark, including 40 deaths.er the cefor disease control and prevention reported the numbers today. separately, juul labs, the country's leading e-cigarettes maker, said it ofll halt sales ts mint-flavored products. on wall street today, stks rose after china said any "phase one" trade deal with the u.s. would eminate some tariff hikes. the donew industrial average gained 182 points to close at 27,674. asdaq rose nearly points, and the s&p 500 added eight. and, the national toy hall of fame has named its class of 2019. the new inductees are: matchbox cars, which debuted in 1953, the coloring book, first produced in the 1880's, and the collectible

card game "magic: the gathering," introduced in 1993. still to come on the newshour: the next tranpeript in the chment inquiry is released. the kingdom comes to silicon valley-- former twitter employees are charged with spying for saudi arabia. anger flares at the energy company at the lanter of the st california wildfires. what's driving down this year's signups for medicaid? and much more. >> woodruff: just how far did the president's personal lawyer go, to undermine america's normal diplomatic cainnels with ukne? that was one of the major focuses last month, when

impeachment investigators in the u.s. house of representatives spoke to career state department official, george kent. the full, 355-page transcript of ke's testimony is public today, the sixth such transcript to be released this week. and ourir own nick schis here to break it all down. nick, we have been looking at this all day long, so much to follow. first of all, who is george and what did he say of significance? >> so george kent is a career diplomat. he is currently the deputy assistant sectary of state for european and eurasian bureau, which makes him in chae of ukraine policy, and since he joine19d state department i, he served democratic and republican administrations. takeaways from testimony today -- he was very explicit it about calling out rudy giuliani, what he said was giuliani's "campaign full of lies against the former u.s. ambassador to

ukraine." and unlike other diplomats wh testified, he expressed concern about hunter biden who is on tbo d of a notoriously corrupt ukrainian company while his father the vice president was trying to get ukrainian so both of those are at the core of this impeachment battle. for the democrats, gym is the beginning of the story they want to tell that the president withheld aid to benefit, anfor about how hunter was on talk the board while vice president biden was working aiin u. >> woodruff: let's start with giuliani. we've heard a lot from different people about rudy giuliani's role. what is kent saying that goesyo d what anybody else has said? >> cebt's words are much more pointed, and he went further in his langue than most people, and he's really angry about one incident, and that is the ouster of former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanitch. just a reminder, yovanovitch was

trump administration's ambassador to ukraine, 33 years as foreign service officer, nominated by both democratic and republican administrations, she lost her job after rudy giuliani convi snced the president th was anti-trump. this is what kent said about that campaign that giuliani led. he said jiewrnlings at that point -- he said giuliani at that point had carried a campaign full of lies againstio yovanovitch. his assertions againsti yovanovitch were without basis, untrue, period. the democrats say this is important not only because giuliani helped oust offyovanovitch but, thev tigate 2016 making anding investigate the company hunter biden was on the board of. >> woodruff: let's talk about

hunter biden, joe biden his father. you're telng us george kent very critical of them as well. >> absolutely. this is a point wherer biden was on the board of a company called burisma, a ukrainian oil and gas company notoriously corrupt, both s. and british officials were wanting to investigate brees marks and this was exactly as vice president biden was leading u.s. policy in ukraine and trying to root out corruption. so let's look at what kent said about this. i raise my concerns that i heard hunter biden was on the board of a ukrainian gas compa could create the perception of a conflict of interest. the message that i recall hearing back was that the vice president's son beau was dying of cancer and there wo n further band width to deal with family issues at that time. i talked to a couple ofho officialssed to work for vice president biden at this time and they were unsure whether that particular conversation took place.

but to the larger point, they say vice president's sh to tackle corruption would have increased the exposure of burisma where his son was on the board rather than decrease or somehow shield the exposure to burisma. and they argued even if there were optics problems, if fact is it did not affect u.s. policy, did not affect vice president east biden's policy to try to geukraine to t to crack down on corruption. >> woodruff: coming back to who george kent, is he is an employee of the state department, and you were telling us the secretary of state had something to say about thi. >> yes, she one of eight state department employees who have time period mostlyecause they've been subpoenaed by democratic-led committees, and one of the most critical of thee employees in last few weeks has been former ambassador mike mckinley. just a reminder of who he is, former senior advisor to secretary of state mike pompeo, four time ambasdorominated by both republican and democratic administrations.

mckinleys accusation was that secretary of state pompey to did not defend yovanovitch during the campaign giuliani was leadng, the campaign kent called a campaign of lies, and that ended th yovanovitch being peered. pompeo was asked about that today for the first time and this is what he said. with respect to ambassador mckinley, i think he said at the opening statement he put out that he wasn't particularly involved in the ukraine policy so it'sot surprising when ambassador yovanovitch return s to the unittes that he didn't raise that issue with me. it shouldn't surprise anyone that many may when that took place, he didn't say a thing to >> so pompeo is right, mckinley did not bring that issue up in may, but he did in september after the president disparnlgd yovanovitch using pretty specific words. in september mckinley says pompeo chose not to defend yovan'sovitch, thhy mckinley resiebd.

separately a state department official tells mtonight that the state deptment is going to bay for all these attorneys appearing inside these deposition rooms because there committeesot allowing any government officials inside those rooms. >> woodruff: so you have been working on that story but also following a very different story today and that is, nick, that this extraordinary indictment yesterday by the department of justice against twitter, a twitter employeo were working or saudi arabia. >> this is an extraordiry story, judy. this is the first time u.s. prosecutors have accused saudi arabia of surveillinge peopside the united states. the story is two twitter employees, one a u.s. cizen, accused of accessing info that we give to twitter, our private inforysmation, hically -- basically and sending it to the saudi government, and the usersr e activists, dissidents, people critical of the saudi government. so, bottom ryan, this is the saudi arabia government basically infiltrating twitter

to contact andt persecutes critics. earlier this year my colleague lay la qur'an and i set down with multiple of the saudi critics and interviewed dozens of people about the crackdown and the crackdown used twitter to go be.nd twitt we talked about real life ways saudi was pressuring critics and we talked to one critic here in d.c. and how >> schohifrinhas the saudi government targeted you while you're in the united states? >> i get threats itery day from er accounts that a lot of people think is somehow associated to the saudi government. i men, just today, i got, fo example, a threat from a twitter account, saying that wee going to lock you up, and we're going to find you, and we're going bring you back and put you in a cell next to your father. >> schifrin: alaoudh's father, salman, is an outspoken activist and scholar who's released his own videos and called for a

change in the saudi government. he was arrested and now faces the death penalty. alaoudh said his father's interrogators mention him durinn interroga >> talking to somebody about his son and saying that, we are to torture him, we're going to do this and that to him, it's a way of intimidation a pressure. >> schifrin: and have they also tried to pressure you? >> yes, because they try to send the message that whatever you do is going to be reflected on my father and how they deal with my father. >> schifrin: alaoudh says how the saudis deal with him here is surveilnce. he says, in 2016, before a publit,c eve was approached by another saudi citizen who said he was there to spy and report back. >> the saudi government has no limits. so, if you're dealing with somebody like this, it's just >> and we spoke to abdul today d he was still receiving threats today.

>> woodruff: so, nick, is there evidence that this online surveillance conducted by the saudi government. >> it says the main recruiter of the two employees was a saudi official and hes the private office of mohammed bin salman, the crown prince of saudi arab, he is basically described as a secretary ofsa mohammed bian and one of the people who controls salomon's private money. it's a part of the a global campaign by saudi arabia to silence critics. twitter sent us the stahment at theey understand, according to them, that they are bad actors and are trying to limit some of the employees' access to information and committed to protecting users' free speech but obviously that failed in this place. >> woodruff: two likely important stories. nick schifrin, thank you. >> thank you. >> woru: when wildfires

broke out again in california last month, residents weren't just worried about the fires themselves. many were angry and frustrated over intentional blackouts that were designed to reduce the risks of even more fires. pg&e, was the target of much of that ire. the company's maintenance of its infrastructure, or often, the lack of it, has contributed to and sparked at least five previous wildfires, with deadly consequences. now, as william brangham tells us, political leaders in northern and ceral california are saying it's time to push pg&e aside for a different lution. >> brangham: that's right judy. pg&e is the lgest investor owned utility in any one state; they serve 15 million customers. last year, pg&e filed for bankruptcy protection because it's $30 billion in debt because of liabilities for last years fires. becasef the company's poor record, mayors of more than a dozen cities and towns in

california are calling for a buyout of pg&e. they want to turn it into a customer-owned cooperative instead. this coalition of mayor representing a third of all of state's utility commission to consider their proposal before approving any bankruptcy plan. how this all would work is the subject of many questions. san jose mayor sam liccardo is the mayor who first proposed this. i spoke with him earlier via by skype ts afternoon. mayor, thank you very, very much for being here. for those of us who do nolive in california and have not been experiencing these fires and blackouts, can you just give us a sense of the anger and the discontent that you're heang from people about pg&e? >> i hear a lot of frustraon from residents, and i know a lot of my mayoral colleagues feel the same way,th an're hearing it because the wildfires, the power safety shutffs are displacing millions of californians, leaving millions of us inh te dark. this is no way for people torl

live, particuin the most advanced economy in the planet. we can r,do betnd people with very frustrated about where we are. >> reporter: so you're spearheading this to transform pg&e to bewned by californians. why is that a solution? >> ait customer-ronde utily provides two advantages.t one, i enables us to ensure that the financial interest of the company wi alied with the public interest and, secondly, it enles the company, when it emerges from bankruptcy, to have betterto acces capital markets, which will be really critical, because we willd neellions of dollars of investment in maintenance and infrastructure upgrades to ensure that electrical power can be safely and reliably delivered to calornia. reporter: isn't it a matter of incentives? if you're trying to please shareholders and investors,

maybe that's not the best incentive structue to deliver reliable energy to people. >>hat could be. pg&e delivered $7 billion to shareholders in the last decade in a time where it has nderinvested in upgrade infrastructure me parts of the state that is a century old. clearly we need to make sure dollars go where mostepeeded. >>ter: why are you confident at cities and saints and counties can run this enormous utility more efficiently? >> i certainly am not going toth be runninutility and i don't want any elected officials on the board, either. we see pnty examples of customer-owned businesses, particularly in the finaial industry. for example credit unions are mutual insurance companies, they're very competently run. they have as their boss the customers, and this is not new concept in the utility context, either. there are hundds of customer-owned utilities in this country, most very small and

rural, but ere are large ones as well and, obviously, they will need professionl nagement and professional boards. >> reporter: how do you deal with the thorny issue of liability? pg&e was saddled with $30 billion in liabilies from last year's fires. are cities and counties and the state ready to take on that kind of risk?is >> t wouldn't change the question of who is responsible for liability beyond the fact that shareholders who might see their equity go to zero as i think they are today with pg&e, i think they'ost about 90% of their stock value, so there would be customers who losuie y. there's no contribution that's required from cities and s countmply because we're urging a customer-owned. utili the liability questions are thorny, no matter what, and, ultimately, i think we all recognize that rate payers are paying mfe to deal with much this.

for example, we just had ab $2illion wildfire fund that was created by the governor and legislature, about half of that is fund bid rate increases. so we all know ultimately the raten payers aree hook, and if the rate payers are on the hook, the rate payers should own the company. >> reporter: regardless, youha an enormous set of challenges, you have to deal with housing,sinig, hardening and making the existing grid safe, and you have a warming state, change and droughts. that is a colossal set offissues to dwial . >> oh, absolutely, and there's no question it's going to require a lot of investment, including investment in our own cities. in san jose, we're looking a how to better build microgrids to ense we have fire stations and hospitals that can be taken up.omee grid when probl we'll be doing a lot of that and i know a lot of other cities will as well. eth not going to be cheap,wh that' it's important for us

to at least have a utility t get access to capital markets and make critical investments. >> reporter: pg&eer this week in response to your proposal says it is officially convince add government or customer takeover is not the optimal solution. how do u respond to that? >> obviously, i disagree and i think a lot of other folks disagree as well. pg&e also said they're not for bankruptcy court, so they are. it's going to be up to a bankruptcy judge, and the state public utilities commission to determine what the company looks liked ultimately, appreciate, obviously, there are things to stay jhe way they like quo isnot acceptable.e status we can't continue in this way, and the cost of doing nothing is far, far greater than the cost of taking a har look a how we can transform this company into one that would be both more responsive and responsible. >> reporter: mayor sam

liccardo of san jose, california, thank you very much. >> thank you, it's a pleasure. >> woodruff: one of the biggest issues in the 2020 campaign is a major dabout what more should be done about expanding health coverage, and whether the country should build on what's millions of americans are at thathe time of the year when have to decide whether to get their coverage through the marketplaces created during the obama years. amna nawaz looks at this moment, >> nawaz: judy, several reports find the perctage of uninsured americans is rising for the first time since the affordable care act took effect. that increase is backed up by census bureau data. t experts are asking why are those numbers rising? we're going to look at that question and this enrollment season. bear in mind, as this plays out, president trump says he remains coitted to killing the affordable care act and has backe.d a state lawsuit to do yet at the same time, it's the law of the land. the president also sao he wants tover people with an

alternative that would offer some of the same consumer protctions and lower healthcare premiums. but he has not offered any new plan yet. for more on this, margot sanger- katz joins me now, she reports on all of this for the "new york times." welcome back to the "newshour", thanks for having me. >> reporter: let's start with where we are. a couple of days into the how are things looking? >> the trump administration is no fan of obamacare, but this year looks good. compared to last year, there are more choices in a lot ofe country and people yups have come down a bit.be it' an interesting boomerang. when the trump administration came in, they did a bunch of things that made the markets really bumpy and problematic, prices went way up, a lot of insurers ft the market, there was a lot of dern and policy uncertainty and then, over time, things have stabilized so we're correcting to a more normal place. >> reporter: let me ask about the number cching wifn's attention, the overall number of americans who are uninsured, ke a look at this number and

the increase, from 2017, it was 7.9% of the american public were uninsured. that went up in 2018 to 8.5%, about 27.5 million people. the economy is doing well. you would't expect to see these numbers. what's happening there? >> yeah, i mean, i think this is a pretty troubling development it's been a decade since we've seen the uninsured rate go up. when the economy is doing that givem coverage, and iobs think there are a couple of different things that are going on here. as to do with things that states are doing in their medicaid programs whe they're making it harder for people to get and stay involved, and that is not an elicit federal policy but the trump administration made it easier for states to do these sorts of things. ink another major possible source of these coverage losses are concernabout immigration policy where a lot of families where there might who are u.s. citizens and parents who are either undocumented immigrants or either legal immigrants in the

process of getting their green card or citizenship, they may be more reluctant to sign up for public coverage because of the affect ton immigration status. then the third the obamacare markets markets, the premiums are high,ave risen over the course of the program, and there are people who do not qualify for any financial assistance buying those plans, and we can see that more than a mlionpe le have basically left that market because they've decided it's too specifics. >> another subgroup of people you're reporting caught mybe attentiouse of another alarming number. you looked at the number of children who no longer have health insurance, and this is,ep as youted, the number of children without medicaid or health insurance, that number increase bid more than a million between 2016 and018. what is happening there? why children? >> so, again, ihink thi is a little bit of a complicated portrait, but it is reallsoy wor sign, more so even than insurance coverage for

adults, we know there are huge public health and economic benefits for childrn having have medicaid are more likely to be healthy when older, more likely to finish high school and college, less likely to have children themselves as teenagers, and there's even some evidence they earn more income as adults. so it's a combination of various factors. as i said, i think some states are taking actions that are making it harder foramilies to enroll their children in medicaid or to keep them enrolled, and i do think that there's a lot of concern among immigrant families. my colleague abby went to houston, texas and talked t immigrant families who were disenrolling their children froe caid because they were afraid it would affect their immigrations. >> reporter: what kind of system should we have? you and your partners asked that question of a number of americans. you surveyed a number of people and said what is the kind of plan that you think you would

sike? what you found three way split between a medicare for all type plaand obama-plus affordable care act enhanced and a republica iplan, whichs less federal involvement, more money and resources totates. i should say those numbers all fall within the margin of error, sot's basically three-way split. that does that tell you? >>t tells us there are about two-thirds or at least 60% of americans that favor democratic schiewnhaes and ts consistent with other polling where people tend to trust the democratic party a little more on healthcare. there are only a third that are inenthusiastic out the plan president trump is talking about. among the people faving the more democratic options there a real divide and we see that in the democratic primary contestan where somedates want to do medicare for all, sort of single payer system where everyone gs their insurance from the government, and some candidates that want to try to figure out how to work within the exist system and cover the holes and theeople falling through the cracks. i think we'll see the debate

intieng going on into the ply mare and the general election. >> reporter: remain a top issue for voters. margot sanger-katz, the "new york times." thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much for having e. >> woodruff: as we reported last night, genetic genealogy-- the technique millions of people use to learn about their family history-- has now become a potent tool for police to crack previously unsolved crimes. tonight, william brangham is back to explore the growing privacy debate around this new technique, and why some people are urging that we slow down. this is part of our regular ies on the leading edge >> brangham: after her dad died, brandy jennings, like millions of americans, used one of the d.n.a. testing kits to learn more about him and other relatives. > h> i didne a close

relationship with my dad so you know just maybe to find some fmbamily s and just kind of learn about his side, you know? >> brangham: but when she got her rests, she tried something new: she uploaded them to a fasree, public d.n.a. datto find out more about her dad's side of the family. > i> i uploadand then it takes a few days for it to upload and analyze and i just kind of forgot about it, you kamw? >> branbut months later, jennings was shocked to learn that police hadsed her d.n.a. information from that public website, and used a technique called genetic genealogy to identify the killer in a 40 year old cold-case in iowa. >> authorities arrested 64 year old jerry lynn burns. >> brangham: mrns out, the urderer was a distant, distant relative of jennings. she thinks this new crime- ftoightin is a great thing >> mi mean, why wouldn't somebody think that-- i mean i think that every person that ever died or been killed or raped or whatever deserves to have justice done yo? >> brangham: but not everyone is so eager to have their d.n.a. end up in a police dragnet. five years ago, michael usry

jr., largely because his fath had done d.n.a. testing, ended up in a police station in downtown new orleans. police suspected he'd been involved in the brutal 1996 rape and murder of an idaho woman anamie dodge. >> in fact almost the entire time they had me in the interrogation room with the one way mirror and all they really didn't want to give me any information. i kept asking questions like you know did somebody i know do mething horrible? and finally after maybe about an hour or two they had to just basically go "no, we think that you know you were involved with this crime.an i'm like, "me?" >> bm: usry was targeted because investigators, using an early form of genenealogy, linked his father's d.n.a. to d.n.a. from the murder scene. usry's dad seemeold... but

michael was not and then police learned usry had traveled through idaho, plus, he made these grisly, violeil low- budget. but usry knew he hadn't done anything wro. >> it was almost like a dream. when it came craing down was when they walked out of the room and the biggest state policeman that i've ever seen in my life came in with latex gloves and a cotton swab and said i'm going to take your d.n.a. now. >> brangham: it took around a month for police to process usry's d.n.a. to see if it matched the d.n.a. from the crime scene. so you spend three or four weeks thinking "i'm a suspect in a brutal mder." what was that-- what were those weeks like for you? >> it was scary. it was really scary. those three or four weeks just because i knew that i had not been involved in any crime i >> brangham: when the d.n.a. te results came back, it

wasn't a match. michael usry jr. was c uared. new yoversity's erin murphy, who studies genetics and the law, sees usry's ordeal as a cautionary tale. she says, remember, michael usry nested his own d.n.a., he was ensnared because his father had. anhy says those decisions, made by others, cannot be undone. >> you can change your phone number if someone starts harassing you. you can change your s if things get really dark you know you can do a lot of credit card cancellations if things get into thg hands but you can't cancel your genome. you can't edit your genome, and more importantly, the decisions that you make about your genomic privacy you know can be overridden by anybody-- not only in your immediate family tree-- it's not just oh my brother chooses to do this, but my sixth cousin i never met chose to do this. that decision esseially erases one genetic privacy of eve else. >> brangham: curtis rogers created the biggest public database, called ¡ged match,' that's now used by police to

solve crimes. rogers initially built it so people like brandy jennings could use their d.n.a. results to build out their family tree. but after authorities in california used ged match to catch the golden state killer, rogers began to slowly welcome police into the database. granted a warrant case todge let police in even more. >> for some reason people really get upset about you, about serial killers and mass killers and serial rapists being caught. i don't know why this upsets peoplehere's something about-- >> brangham: they're not upset about people getting caught. they're upset about sohow that they are going to be roped into an investigation, they would feel unfairly, or that their privacy would somehow be violated. right? >> if they could see some of the e-mails from these families that have had some closure, i can't imagine that anyone would say

i can't imagine anyone saying i don't want to help these families. >> of course iant those people, serial killers and murderers and you know terrible rapists to be caught. it's becoming such a powerful crime fighting tool. but it's also kind of it scares me personally because we see that it's being used for other purposes besides finding yr uncle. in my case it's usthe police to you know try to link me to a crime. >> brangham: years after michael usry jr was cleared, further genetic genealogy helped identify angie dodge's real killer. a man named brian dripps, who was her neighbor, was convicted and now in jail for life. mfor the pbs newshour, i' william brangham.

>> woodruff: there is a toxic brew in the air over india, sparked by everything from farmers burning their fields, to industrial pollution. special correspondent fred de sam lazaro examined this problem w has this update. >> reporter: smokeillows from the fields of northern india, as farmers burn remnants of their crops after harvest. theyay it's the easiest and quickest way to get their fields ready for the next planting. but what is convenient for the farmers is wreaking havoc in nearby cities. the smoke from thousands of fields mixes with pollution millions of cars and trucks. those noxious clouds smog make it hard to see during the y. and hard to breathe. sakshi chauhan is recovering from a severe throat infection. >> ( translated ): i was told that i have an infection. because of this, i cannot eat

anything from outside. he told me ngo out, told me not to go out because of smog. >> reporter: the smoke is so thick that earlier this week flights at new delhi's main international airport were delayed visibility.due to poor the city's government declared a public heah emergency, and imposed bans on certain vehicles. the city also ordered all nstruction work to stop. >> ( translated ): the pollution has to great levels. our company has halted construction since november 1. we had it shut even before that. we are following the official we have stopped all work and all the precautions and initiatives are being taken to curb pollution here. >> ( translated): also smog, plumes of smoke nerated by fireworks during the recent festival of diwali, celebration of light where now, during the d there is less...

weather anwind patterns are also blamed for trapping pollutants over india's capital. dirty fuels are the culprit from several sources. automobiles are the major one. on average, 1,400 new vehicles are added to delhi's streets every day, most now burning a highly polluting diesel long outlawed in pe and the united states. by 2021, diesel fuel here will meet european standards. the government has also promised to shut down old coal-fired plants and restrict new ones. but pollution has been worsening for years. two years ago, to get an idea of how dirty thair is, we went to one of the cleanest places in delhi, the american embassy school. it serves the dren of american and other expats and diplomats. many don face masks, but only until they're inside. ellen stern was the school's director >> we have an air system that goes all the way through the school. we now have four different kinds of filters on it that filter out

various kinds of things. >> reporter: barun aggl showed me the elaborate system his company, breatheeasy, has set up in the school, pulling out the first layer of filter, thickly coated with a grimy soot. so, if you were to walk outside today, this is what is coming into your lungs? >> absolutely. >> reporter: the fine rticle filters also show stark before- and-after evidence of the harmful air outside. you would think such systems would be in strong demand, but aggarwal says, aside from a few buildings mostly occupied by expats, its been a hard sell. among india's growing middle class, he says, he's there's denial or indifference, a thnse pollution is the price of india's rapid economic progress. >> the number of myths that are there with regards to air pollution in india are incredible. the first one that i get by mostly indians i, if i breathe clean air for eight hours, then my immunity will come down, and when ut, i

will fall sick. completely wrong, because this is-- if you believe that, then you should be giving your children two packets of cigarettes to smoke every day. environmental activist who also designed the embassy school's filtration system. it works well, he says, but it no panacea for a city of 20- plus million residents. >> you cannot have just err puriand cleaning systems for the people who can afford o them. it hasbe for the people who are on the road, who are in slums. >> reporter: meattle, who trained at m.i.t., has developed lower-cost ways to cope with the llution: plants, which w measured just outside an office building he owns in central this is the central air cleaning system for the whole building. >> reporter: plants do more than produce oxygen, he says. they are natural air purifiers. their roots eat bacteria and fungi and they absorb chemicals

like formaldehyde and benzene produced by office products. >> these are are palms for the day time, bamboo palm. >> reporter: installing plants are a they're small steps people can take indoors, but he acknowledges tre's a huge complex problem outside these clean air bubbles, not easily solved in india's chaotic democracy. >> reporter: the indian government says it's taken steps to reduce poion. but, in the meantime, for years to come, for that matter, most of its major cities will continue to be among the most difficult places on earth to breathe. for the pbs newshour, this is fred de sam lazaro in new delhi. woodruff: fred's reporting is a partnership with the under- told stories project at the university of st. thomas in minnesota. >> woodruff: finally tonight, jane fonda has been a household

name for decades due to her prolific work on-screen and activism as well.nduring her cause now: taking on clite change. >> you obviously know what this is like, but i've fover felt it . >> the winner is jane fonda. >> woodruff: two academy awards, seven golden globes, a prime time emmy. the list goes on. from her start in 1960, on stage and then on screen, jane fonda quickly won recognition and stardom. movirom barefoot in the park and ba reel la barballa to shea shoot horse don't they, clute and coming home, she became a household name. so happy. >> woodruff: followed by the hein chyna syndrome, on golden pond and nine to five. after a break in the '90s, he relaunched her career on film, on stage and tv.

>> we made a hell of an act, >> we did. woodruff: as grace hansen in her current netflix comedy series grace and frankie with lilly tom lynn. all the while, activism has been threaded through phonta does career, civil rights, women's rightsthe vietnam war. when she was photograed in hanoi in 1972 sitting on a north vietnamese anti-aircraft gun, detractors called her hanoi jane and accused her of undermining u.s. troops. years later, she poll eyed protest the iraqar and othern to causes. today the now 81-year-old actress is still at it. she moved to washington to focus on civil disobedience around climate change, inspired by 16-year-old activistreta thunberg. >> love you, jane! >> woodruff: fonda has bee arrested four times in the last four weeks in what's become

known as fire aydrill fr >> what we have to do is unprecedente >> woodruff: she's pushing for legislation advocated by democratic party progressives. >> the green new deal is going to do more than the new deal did, it's going to bring everyone to a fair playing field. we're ing to make it happen. >> woodruff: jane fonda, welcome to the "newshour". >> it's good to be with you, judy. we've known each other a long time. >> woodruff: we have. we're so glad you're here. so arrested four times in the last month, sp night in jail, but not your first time. >> no, was arrested in cleveland in 1970 and this time in washington. >> woodruff: in a it like? jail, what was >> in cleveland, all the people that were in jail were white, and they were all black here, and it was pretty clear that ey were in there becaof poverty and racism and wha grows out of that, mental health

issues i was treate fine, you know, >> woodruff: whatriving. you to do this? you speak about the climate crisis. what is it that sparked this? >> i made all the personal lifestyle choices, drive electric car, eat le meat, less fish, get rid of single use plastiand all that. that's good and important but it's not nuff and i knew what i had to do. i had to get out of zone and put myself on the line, in coordination with the young student climate strikers, the sunrise movement and tse kids. >> woodruff: what's different about these young activists and what they're saying? >> their lives are on the line. i mean, they recognize that older people are robbing them of a future that's livable, and we don't seem toe paying though attention. kids have been out front of movement for a long time, you know, standing rock young people and so many of them, but there's

something about geta thunberg, it's the fact that she's on the spectrum. >> woodruff: right, autism spectrum. >> yes, as's, and that gives her a focus. she doesn't get distracted. when i read what happened to her, she will be studyin in climate, and when she read therg inernmental panel on climate change that said we have very little time left, and this is what we had to do, and then she looked aroobd andy was behaving the way they should be behaving. she said, if this is happening, people wouldn't be talking about anything else. and she wasr tmatized and stopped eating and speaking, and that really got to me. i knew that what she had seen was the truth. >> woodruff: at the same time, what do you say to the skeptics, the people who are outright saying this is hysteria, we can't move this far this fastwe eed to be sensible about this -- >> there's only one way to be sensible, and that is to study

the science, the scientits know. the other day, 11,000 of them issued aarning saying there is no question that the earth and its population is facing a dire catastrophe. >> woodruff: even with that, just ts week, presidet trump formally pulls out of the paris -- >> he's a fossil fuel president. they have been bought off tyhe fossil fuel industry, which tends to do that and subverts tr democracy in process. but our goal here with our fire convince those kind of people. we're trying to get people who are not used to going into the streets and engaging in civil disobedien r andking getting arrested. >> woodruff: think back to vietnam, how is this period of activism different from back then? what's changed? >> what's changed is that everyone, not just our soldiers who e in a country fighting

the people in that country, but the en world is being threatened. 's anxistential umbrella hanging over everything, that's what's changed. this has neverappened before in the history of civilization. >> woodruff: and that' what's driven jane fonda to move to washington and do what --ea >> i if you're a celebrity and almost 82 years old and youe oung grandchildren, i mean, i don't know, i don't know what would happen to me if i didn't do it. what would i think about myself? >> woodruff: you said it, you are an 8 is-year-old woman who still has a phenomenally successful career in entertainment id televis. you're as active as anybody could be in the envirolen movement. is there a message for older womeoday? >> when you're older, what have you got to lose? for some guy who's scared of a strong woman, so you can rise to

yourself and become who you are meant to be, and you can be brave.i mean, there are older pe with grey hair out there every that are just so great, and some are nones, some are rabbis, and some are just people who come d om different parts to have the united states, ey're old, and it's just beautiful. >> woodruff: and you think there's more acceptance of that today than there used to be? >> there's always been. older people have alys -- older women have always tended to be the bravest. >> woodruff: soat's your message to other women who are out there wondering should th step int or that that i have been afraid to get involved in? >> well, one of my purposes with fi drill friday is to show people the new normal. th is the kind of thing that has to become normal, given what is going to have to happen.

no matter who we elect in november, no matter how progressive d brave they are, it won't work unless we are going to hold their feet to the fire. you know, back during the new deal, franklin delano roosevelt said to the people who were in the streets ri and demanding that he help them rise out of despair because they were starving and they were soor and he said, i agree with you, now go out and make me dot. and whether it's obama or jerry brown, so many progressive politicians say to people, make me do it! me do it! that means they can't throw up their hands and say, look, it's not my fault, look what the constituents are me meg do. we have to be in the streets and shutting down governments, if necessary, not just at the federal level, but state governments, local governments, town councils. we have to be very brave, and, for 40 years, we've marched and rallied and written and spoken and not enough has happened, so

we have to up the l antetle bit and risk getting arrested we have to not be afraid and we have to see this as the waygood citizens of the united states need to act. we need to be in the streets making our demands heard. a. woodruff: jane fond judy woodruff! >> woodruff: in washington making the case to fight clate change. jane fonda, thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. it'sood to see you, thanks, and thank you for having me. >> woodruff: and we heard her y, what have you got to lose? >> woodruff: and that's the newshour r tonight. i'm judy woodruff. newshour, thank yosee you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> and with the ongoing support and friends of the newshour.

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