♪ >> good evening, i'm judy woodruff. ." the "pbs newshour a clearer picture. as he accuses the president's personal lawye of waging a campaign based on lies to oust the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. and the fires are contained but e anger still burns with as genetic genealogy allows law enforcement to reopen cases long gone cold, investigators see a try amphora for justice while the wrongly accusedin see an sion of privacy. one that cannot be undone. >> you can change your phone

number or address but you cannot cancel you genome. judy: from the silver screen to the street. legendary actress jane fonda on her lifetime of activism and her fi crisis.st the climate >> we have to not be afraid and we have to s this as the way good citizens in the united states need act. we need to be in the streets. judy: allhat and more on tonight's "p newshour." >> major funding for the "pbs newshour" has been provided by -- ♪ bnsf railway. commuter -- consumer cellular and by the alfred p sloan foundation, supporting science,

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e fbi released photos of two men wanted for allegedly's dying for saudiem arabia whiloyed at twitter. the two are accused of stealing user data from twitter. the indictment says they specifically stole confidential atinfon on saudi dissidents. a third suspect, a u.s. citizen is in custody in seattle. president trump pressed ukraine to investigate his political foes. impeachment investigators released george kent's prite testimony today and which he also said rudy giuliani waged a campaign of lies to oust the u.s. ambassador to caresif. and vice pnt pence defended his boss again in new hampshire. >> themerican people have the transcript of the american -- of the presidents call. what is going on in washington d

c today is a disgrace. stephanie: and theresident denied asking william barr to defend his july phone call with ukraine's leader or that william barr refused to doo. a state judge in new york has ordered president trump to pay 2 billion -- 2 million dollars to charities over claims he used his charitable foundation for political gain. in the settlement, president trump admitted to wrongdoing. in ain tweet this ev mr. trump responded saying the new york attorney general is deliberately mischaracterizing the settlement for political purposes. tonight, the democratic presidential field is said to be shaknt up as word c that michael bloomberg is seriously exploring entering the race. newshour confirmed that bloomberg iste expec to enter the alabama primary next march.

two of the most progressive candidates reacted on twitter. bernie sanders said the billionaire class is scared and they should be scared while elizabeth warren tweeted out her calculator for millionaires. sijeff ss announced at this evening that he is running forat his old u.s. sjob in alabama. he faced repeated criticism from president trump forward using investigation but in his the president thi he was doing great work for america. in k iraq, security forcled at least six morest proteers today. they were shot as they tore down part of a barrier. the demonstrators remained defiant. >> you pdeiticians have royed the country. the security forces of both the ministries of defense and inrior are with you.

are you subordinate to these parties? stephanie: later, fourt. protesters were shot dead as security forces broke up base didn't in the southern city of missouri. tensions over iran's nuclear program intensified today. i run has resumed enriching uranium. today, mike pompeo said he condemned nuclear extortion. and iran claimed that it barred a u.n. inspector last week because she had traces of explosives on her. the u.n. nuclear agency denied that. the international court handed down a maximum sentence for a congolese warlord known as the terminator. sentencing at the in theng the netherlands. he had been did of were crimes and crimes against humanity.

the case stemmed from congo's bloody ethnic conflict. police in france have dismantled two makeshift camps in northern paris where refugees have bn living in tents. the sub-saharan migrantsere escorted into buses. ieauthorsaid they would be taken to public shelters that support groups voiced concerns. >> we do not know t what solutions have been proposedmp besides ary housing in a sports hall. we regret that these are still temporary solutions are not preventive measures. stephanie:an france has see influx of migrants and refugees of the government has pledged to "take control of immigration." funerals began in northern mexico today for nine americans killed c by drtel gunmen. 500 mourners gathered in la mora. a mother and two of her sons were the first to be laid to rest.

the investigation continues. the officials say the killers may have mistaken the americans for a rival gang. unicago police superintendent eddie johnson and he is retiring at years end. before falling asl theg wheel of his car at a stop sign. he acknowledged the wear and te of three years as superintendent. >> this job has taken a toll. on my health, my family, and my friends. but my ingrity remains intact and i am proud of what the department has accomplished. stephanie: the interior department is proposing a wording a major contract forte federal to the former employer of the interior secretary, it david earnhardt. california's westland water district is in line to win the bid. democrats and environmental groups accused the department of

awarding a sweetheart deal. still to come o"pbs newshour with judy wdruff" the next transcript in the impeachment inquiry is released. and forward -- and former twitter employees are accused of spying for saudi arabia. and at the center of the latest california wildfires. and what is driving down the sign-ups forhis year's dicaid and much more. ♪ >> tews is "pbsour" from weta studios in washington and in the west, from the walter cronkite school of journalism. >> just how far did the president's personyer go to under fine -- to undermine america's normal channels with ukraine? that was one of the major focuses last month when

officials interviewed george ke. the full 3 page transcript of his testimony is public today. the sixth such tralecript to be ed this week. nick schifrin is with us to break it down. who is george kent and what d he say of significant? nick: george kent is a career diplomat and he is currently the deputy secretary of state for ndeuropeanurasian bureau which makes him in charge of ukraine policy. since he joined the state department in 1990 two he has servedti both democand republican administrations. here are the takeaways -- he was explicit about calling out rudy giuliani. whate said was that rudy giuliani's campaign was full of lies against the former. u

ambassador to ukraine and he expressed concerns about hunter biden who was on board in a tory us company. -- who was onoa a notoriouslyorrupt ukrainian company. and for republicans, they want to talk about how hunter biden president biden was working in ukraine. ljudy: us start with giuliani. we have heard a lot from different people about his rol what is george kent saying that is going beyond what others are nick: his words are much more pointed and he went further in his language. he is really ang about the ouster of former ukrainian ambassador maria ivanovic. ivanovic was the trump's ambassador to ukraine.nd she's3 years as a foreign

service officer.ob giuliani convinced the president that she was anti-trump. and this is what aeorge kent saut that campaign that giuliani led. he said giulianyihad been ca on a campaign for several months full of lies and incorrect information on in bassett or ivanovic. -- ambassador ivanovic. what democrats say is that this is important not only because giuliani helped ouster ivanovic t after that come he convinced the president to withhold the aid to uaine to investigate -- before ukraine investigated 2016, clinton, and biden. that means investigate 2016 hacking and investigate the company on which hunter biden was on the board. judy: let us talk about hunter biden and his father.

george kent was very critical of them as well. nick: hunter biden was on a board -- was o a board of a ukrainian company that was notoriously corrupt. is was as vice president biden was leading u.s. policyn ukraine and trying to root out corruption. let us listen to what kent said about this -- r ised concerns about hunter biden being on the board. that it could cree the impression of a conflict of interest. beau biden was dying of cancer in 2015 and there was no furthet band to deal with family related issues at that time. i talked to a couple of officials that used to work for vice president biden at this and they are admitted took place.her that conversation the larger point is that vice push to tacken's corruption would have increased

the exposure of this company rather than decrease or somehow shield the exposure of the comphay. they argue even if there were some optics problems, the fact is that it did not affect u.s. policy, vice president biden's policy to get ukraine to crackdown on corruption. judy: coming back to us who george kent is -- he was an emplee of the state department. nick: hef is oneght state department employees who have testified mostly because they have been subpoenaed by democratic led committees. onef of the most critical those employees all week has been former ambassador mike mckinlay. he is a former senior advisor to secretary of state mike pompeoi, a fourambassador and nominated by both republican and democratic ainistrations. he says pompeo did not defend

event of rich -- ivanovic during that campaign. and it ended with ivanovic being fired. pompeo was asked about that today. this is what he said. mckinley come he said he was not part ukraine file.ed in the when ambassador ivanovic returned, it is not surprising with may.inot raise that issue it should not surprise anyone that in may he did not say anything to me. masvidal pompeo is right -- nick: theo is right that he did emt bring it up to him in may but he did in ser. in september mccamley says pompeo chose not to defend of on of etch -- ivanovic and that is why mckinley resigned.

the state department will pay for all of these attorneys that e appearing inside these deposition rooms because the committees are not allowing any government officials inside those rooms. judy: you have also been following another story and that is in this extraordinary indictment yesterday by the department of justice against twitter. mptwitteryees who were working for saudi arabia. nick: this is an extraordinary story. the first time u.s. prosecutors have accused saudi arabia oop surveilling inside the u.s. two twitter employees have been accused of accessing info that we give twitter, our private ntformation, and sending that to the saudi govern they accessed?sers' io that those critical to the saudi vernment. this is the saudi arabian government infiltrating twitter

to contact and persecute its thitics. earlie year, my colleague and i sat down with multiple of these saudi critics. we interviewed dozens of these critics. the crackdown went on twitter and used twitter to go beyond twitter. we talked about the real-life ways thataudi was pressuring some of its critics. and we spoke to one critic here in d.c. and how has the saudi government targeted you whie you were in .s.? >> i get threats every day from twitter accounts that a lot of people think somehow are associated to the saudi government. just today i got for example a threat fm a twitter account you up and find you and bringock you back. ead put you in a cell next father. nick: his father is an outspoken released his own videos ands called for a change in the sau government.

he was arrested and faces the death penalty. he said his fath's interrogators have mentioned him to his father. >> they talked to him about his son saying they were going to arrest him and torture him. it is a way of intimidation and pressure. nick:o have they aied to pressure you? >>, y they tried to send a message that whatever i do will be reflected on my father and how they deal with my father. nick: he says how the saudi's deal wit him here is surveillance. he says in 2016 before a public event he was approached by another saudi citizen who said he was there to spy and report back. >> the saudit governms no limits. nick: we spoke to him today and he was still receiving threats even today. judy: is there evidence that this online surveillance is

being conducted by the saudi government? nick: the indictment is very specific. it says the recruiter of these two employees is directed by the ince. bottom line is this is part of a global campaign i saudi arabia to silence its critics and i should also mention that twitter sent us a statement where they say they understand there are tbad actors in their tryi limit some of their employees' access to formation. judy: remarkable. just remarkable. ♪ wildfires broke oe

in california last month, residents were not just concerned about the fires them selves. many were angry about the intentional blackouts. the largest utility was the target of much of that anger. the matenance of the company of its infrastructure or its lack of has contributed to and sparked at least five previous wildfires with deadly consequences. now, as william brangham tell us , political leaders are saying it is time to push pg&e aside for a different solution. william: pg&e is the largest investor owned ulity in anyone's day. last year, pg&e f fil bankruptcy protection because ob its because of liabilities from last year's fires. e of the poor record of the company, mayors of more than california are calor a in

buyout and they wanted turned into a customer owned i -- customer owned company instead. they are asking the utility commissiono consider their oposal before approving any bankruptcy plan. how this would work is m the subject y questions. the san jose mayor was the first to propose this and he joins me now. thank you for being here. for those of us that do not live ee california and have not experiencing these fires and blackouts, can you give us a sense of the anger and discontent you are hearing from people about pg&e? >> i am hearing a lot of frustration from my residence and a lot ofy mayoral colleagues are hearing the same thing. the wildfires and the power to save the shutoffs are displacing many californians and leaving many of us in thnodark. this iay for people to live particularly in the most

economy -- in the most advanced economy on the planet. william: you are spearheading this effort to transform pg&e from an investor owned utility to one owned by ordinary californians. why is that a solution? this provides two advantages -- it enables us to ensure that the financial interests of the company ll be aligned with the public interest. and secondly, it enables the company, when it emerges from bankruptcy, to have better acce to capital markets which will be critical because we will investment in maintenance and infrastructure upgrades to make sure that electrical power can be safely dernvered to calins. william: is it a matter of incentives? >> that is part of it.

pg has provided $7 billion in dividends to shareholders in the last decade at a time in which it has significantly undressed and made it in basic maintenance on vegetation and upgrades of infrastructure. in some parts of the state they are a century old. t have make sure that dollars go where they are most needed. william: why are you confident thatru a city coulthis more efficiently? >> i am not going to be running a utility. s we plenty of examples of customer owned businesses partic industry.he financial credit unions for example. they are verype cntly run. they have as their boss the customers. this is not a new ncept in the utility context either. there are hundreds of customer owned utilities in this country. most are small and rural but

there william: how do you deal with the thor pg&e was saddled with $30 billion last year. r ties and counties in the state ready to take on that risk? >> this would not change the question of whis responsible for liability beyond the fact thatld shares who might see their equity go to zero as i think they are today at pg&e where they have lost 90% of their stock - valand same with the customer that loses equity. there is re contrution ired from cities and counties simply because we are urging a customer owned utility. the liability question is thorny no matter what. we understand that ratepayers are paying more to deawith this. we just had a $21 billion

wildlifeun created by the governor and legislature and half of th is funded by rate increases. we all know ultimately that the ratepayers are on the hook and if they are, than they should own the company. william: regardless of what happens with pg&e, you still have an enormousch set of lenges including housing and zoning and a warming stage with that is a colossal set of issues to deal with. >> aolutely. and no question it will require a lot of investment including investment in our own cities. and san jose, we are looking at building better micro-grids to make sure we have bter fire stations and hospitals that can be taken off the grid when the wildfires,. we will be doing that and i know other cities will be as well. it is notap c we needt a utility tn access capital. william: pg&e come in response

to your proposal, said it is firmly convinced that a government or customer takeor is not the optimal solution. how do you respond? >> obviously i disagree and i think others do as well. hepg&e also saidwere not for sale but in fact they are in bankruptcy court and so they are. court and the state utilitycy commission to determine what the companyl wok like ultimately. i appreciate there are folks within pg and he -- pg&e that would like things to stay the way they are but frankly, the stus quo iot acceptable and the cost of doing nothing is far greater than the cost of taking a hard look at how we can transform this company into one that would be both responsive and responsible. william: mayor from san jose, california, thank you very much. ♪

judy: one of the biggest issues in the 2020 presidential campaign is about expanding health coverage or not. aliens of americans are at that time of yearhen they have to decide whether to get their coverage through the marketplace is created during the obama years. looks at this more closely.waz amna: the increases backed up by census bureau data. ex numbers are rising.the we will look at that question ysd this enrollment season. president trump e remains committed to killing the affordable care act and has backed a state lawsuit to do so but at the same time, it is the law of the land. the president wants er people with an alternative.

ewhe has not offered anylan yet. for more on this,go moins us now. she reports on this for the new york times. let us start with where we are now. we are a couple of days in the enrollment season. marg this year looks pretty good. compared to last year, there are more choices in parts of the country and premiums have come down it is been a boomerang. when the trump admintration in, they made the market bumpy and problem -- and problematic. there was a lot of concern and policyin uncer. and over time, we have corrected back. amna: the overall number of americans that are uninsured, take a look at this number and the increase from 2017 when it was 7.9%.

that is about 27.5 million5%. people. the economywhs doing well. is happening? margo: this is a troubling developmen it has been about a decade since we have seen the uninsured g numbup. i think there are a couple of different things going on. one has to do with thingsat that are doing in the medicaid program. they are making it harder to get enrolled and stay enrolled. it is notit an explederal policy. another jor possible source of theseoverage losses are concerns about immigration policy where a lot of families that have u.s. citizens as children, they may beore

reluctant to sign up for coverage. and there is a third category linked to the obamacpoe markets we about earlier. the premiums for obamacare plans are really high. under her are people that do nou ify for financial assistance biting those plans. in more than a millione peo have left that market because they have decided it is too expensive. amna: i theanother subgroup. you looked at the number of children who have no longer gotten insurance. without medicaid or health insurance increased by more than a million between016 and 2018. what ihappening there? margo: this is a complicated portrait but it is a worrisome sign, or so even then the insurance coverage for adults. there are huge economic benefits

for children having health insurance. kids that have medicaid are more likely to be healthy when they are older and more likely to finish high school and college. and there is even some evidence that they are and more on -- more income as an adult. it is a combination of factors. some states are taking actions makingde it h for families to enroll their children in medicaid or keep them and and there is concern among immigrant families. olict went to houston, texas and spoke to some immigrant families. they had kept their kids in medicaid but now they are pulling them out. amna: the qstion is, in this political climate, what kind of health care system should we have? you and your colleagues at the new york times have partnered with another company a asked that question. what kind of plan would you like? you found a three-way split.

i should say the numbers fall within the margin of error. a three-way split. what does that tell you? margo: two thirds of americans solutions.ored democratic at is consistent with other polling. there is only a third that are enthusiastic about the planned that president trump is talng about. among those favoring the more democratic options, there is a re divide. we see that in the democratic primary contest. some want to do medicaid for all or single-payer plans or some candidates want to figure out how to work within the existg system? i thinkil wecontinue to see that debate going on through the primary and probably into the a general electiwell. amna: a top issue for american

voters o there. thank you for being with us. margo:nk tou for having me. ♪ judy:or as we rd last night, genetic genealogy, the technique thatany are -- that many are using to learn about their family history has become a potent tool for police. we examine the growing privacy debate around this technique and some people are urging that we slow down. this is par of our regular series on the leading edge of science and technology. reporter: after her dad died, she use one of those dna testing kits to learn more about hitiand other res. >> i did not have a close it helped me find some family

members. reporter: when she got her results come she uploaded them to a free public dna database to find a more about her dad's side of the family. >> i upload it. i forgot about it. reporter: months later she was shocked to learn the pice had used her dna information from the public website and used a technique called genetic genealogy to identify the killer in a 40-year-old whole case in iowa. >> authorities were less- authorities were less -- thorities arrested a man. reporter: she thinks this new tool is a great thin >> i think every person that has ever been killed or rate deserves to have justice done. reporter: not everyone is so eager to have their dna in a police dragnet. five years ago, michael, ended

up in a police station in downtown new orleans. police suspected he had been involved in a brutal 1996 re and murder of an idaho woman. >> almost the entire time they had me in the interrogation room , they did not want to give me any information. i kept asking qstions like -- did somebody i know do something horrible? and finally, after maybe about an hour or two, they had to say -- we think you were involved with this crime. and i was like --maybe? reporter: investigators linked his father's dna to dna at the murder scene. his dad seemed to wall to be the killer but michael was not. and then police learned he had

traveled through idaho plus he made these grizzly, violent >> it was like a dream.d done when it came crashing down was when they walk out of thel r and the biggest state policeman i meve ever seen in my life in with latex gloves and a cotton swab and said -- i'm going to take your dna now. reporter: it took a month for pleased to process his dna to see if it matched. you spend three or four weeks thinking -- i am a suspect in a brutal murder. what were those weeks like for you?>> it was scary. really scary, those three are for weeks, because i knew i had not been involved in anercrime. repo when the resul came back, it was not a match. he was cleared. new york univeity's aaron

murphy who studies genetics and the law sees his ordeal as a cautionary tale. she says, remember, he ner tested his own dna. he was ensnared because his and decisions made by others cannot be undone. >> you can change your phone number or your address. you can do credit card cancellations but you cannot edit your genome. in the decisions that you make about your privacy can be overridden by anyone in your immediate family tree. like your brother. or even a distinct has them. that decision erases the genetic privacy of everyone else. reporter: ctis rogers created the biggest public database that now used by police to solve crimes.

igerbuilt it so people like randy jennings could use the results to build out eir family tree but afteror authies in california used it to catch the golden state killer, rogers began to slowly walk on police into the database. and a florida judge granted a warrant on one case to let police in even more. >> for some reason, people really getpset about mass killers being caught. ti don'now why this upsets people. reporter: they are not upset about people getting caught but they are upset on how they might be roped into an investigation. >> if they could see some of the emails from some of the families that have had some closure, i cannot imagine anyone would say it is theo wrong ink do. >> of course i want those people

and terrible rapists, to bes caught. but it is becoming such a werful crime-fighting tool, it scares me personally because we see that it is being used forrp other es besides finding ur uncle. in my case, it is used by the police to try to link me to a crime. reporter: years after michael was cleared, further genetic genealogy identified angie do dd's real kler. judy: there is a toxic row in

much of the air over india sparked by everything from farmers burning their fields to industrial pollution. ecial correspondent examines this problem. and now he has an update. reporter: smoke billows from the fields of northern india as farmers burned remnants of their crops after harvest. they s it is the easiest way to get their fields ready for the next planting. what is convenient ior the farmerwreaking havoc in your -- in nearby cities. noxious clouds of smog make it hath to see durinday and hard to breathe. he is recovering from a severe throat infection. >> i was told by the doctoran tt i hanfection and because of this, i cannot eat anything from oside.

the doctor told me not to go out because of smog. reporter: the smoke is so thick tha' flights at new delhs international airport were delayed or canceled due to poor visibility. the city declared a public health emergencyestricting the number of cars allowed on the road and ordered all construction work to sp. >> the pollution has risen to a great levels. our company has halted construction since november 1. we are following the official order. we have stopped all work of the precautions are beingn ta curb pollution here. reporter: also contributing to the rampant smog is plumes of smoke from the fireworks during a recent festival. weather and wind patterns ar also blamed for trapping pollutants over the city.

automobiles are a major culprits. on average,400 new vehicles are added to the new delhi streets every day. most using a highly polluting diesel long outlawed in europe and the united states. by 2021, diesel fuel here will meet european standards. the government has also promised to shut down old coal burning plants. two years ago, to get a idea of how dirty the air is, we went to one of the cleanest places in delhi, the american embassy school which serves the children of americans and other diplomats. many put on face max but -- facemasks but not until they are inside. >> we have four different filters. >> we can open up one panel over

here. reporter: he showed me the saborate system they have up in the school pulling out the first filter and it was covered with grimy and oily soot. reporter: the filters showhe harmful air outside. she says ae from a full buildings mostly occupied by expatriates, it has been a hard. se among the growing middle class, there is denial or indifference. a sense the pollution is the price toay for india's rapid economic growth. >>ge the first one that from indians is that if i breathe clean a for eight hours, my immunity will go down and when i go out i w gl it.

that is completely wrong. reporter: he is an environmental activist that also designed the filtration system for the school. he says it works well that it is no panacea. >> you cannohave just air purifiers and cleaning systems for the people that can afford them. it has to be for the people on the road or are in the slums. reporter: he trained at m.i.t. and has discovered lower cost means to deal with pollution, plants. clean air is produced and each floor is pulling in the air as needed. >> there are plants on each floor. this is a central air cleaning system for the whole building. reporter: plants create oxygenre and they aurifiers. their roots eat bacteria.

>> this is for the daytime. >> installing plants is a small step peopldocan take for s. he also says though there is a ge outside plant -- outside problem. the indiasa government it has taken steps to reduce pollution but in the meantime, india's capital andor that matter most of its major cities will continue to be among the to breathe.ult places judy: this is a partnership with the untold stories. ♪ judy: final tonight, jane fonda has been a household name for decades due to herfi pro

work on screen and stage. and her enduring activism as well. her cause now -- taking on climate chan. >> you know what this is like. >> the winner is jane fonda. reporter: 2 academy awards and a primetime emmy and the list goes on. from her star in 1960 on stage and then on screen, jane fonda quickly won recognition and ardom. she became a household name.park judy: followed by the china syndrome, on golden pond, and 9-to-5. she relauncheder career after break. >>iv we made quite a neg judy: as grace hansen in her

current netflix serie-- all the while, activism and has been threaded throughout her career. when she was photographed in hanoi in 1972 sitting on a north vietnamese antiaircraft gun, detractors called her hanoi jane and accused her of undermining u.s. troops. yearlater she apologized and went on to protest the iraq war and other causes. today, the now 81-year-old actresst is still a it. she moved to washing focus on civil this obedience clima inspired by the 16-year-old activist greta rememrsh. e has been arrested four times in the last four weeks in what

has become commonly known as fire drill -- fire drill friday. >> the green new deal is going to do more than the new deal did. it willon bring eveto a fair playing field. we are going to make it happen. judy: jane fonda, welcome tosh "the nr." >> good to be with you. judy: arrested four times and spent a night in jail but not your first time. >> i was arrested in cleveland in 1970 anthis time in washington. judy: what was it like? >> in cleveland, all of the people in jail were white to and they were all black here and it was pretty clear that they were in there because of poverty and growsut o what that and mental health issues. i was treated fine.

but it made me very sad. judy:is whariving you to do this? what has sparked this? >> i have made all of the lifestyle choices -- drive an electric car and eat less meat. it is good a important but not enough and i knew what i had to do. i d to get out of my comfort zone and put myself on the line in coordination with tng student climate strikers. judy: what is different about these young activists? >> their lives are on the line. they recognize that older people are robbing them of a future that is livable. kids have been out front of this movement for a long time. there is something about greta -- it is the fact that she is on

the spectrum. judy: autism spectrum. >> as burgers -- a gift -- asp buers. when she read the intergovernmental panel on climate change w that sa have very little time left and this is what we have to do. she looked around and no one was behaving the way they should be behaving. she said if this was happening, people would stop doing this. i knew what she had seen was the truth. judy: what do you say t?the skepti those saying it is hysteria -- about this.d to be sensible >> there is only one way to be sensible and that is to study the science. 11,000 scientists issued a

warning the other day saying there is no question that the earth and its population is facing a dire catastrophe. and evenith that, -- judy: presidentrump poled out of the paris accord. >> his cabinet is the fossil t el cabinet. they have been f by the fousil fuel iy subverting our democracy and the process. our goal is not to convince those kind of people. we are trying to get people who are not used to going into the streets and engaging in civil disobedience and riskied getting arre judy: think back to vietnam, how much is this period different? >> what has changed is that everyone, not just our soldiers who are in a country fighting the people in that coubut the entire world is being

threatened. it is an existential umbrella hanging over everything. that is what has changed. this has never happened before in the history of civilization. judy: and tt is what has driven jane fonda to move to washington. d if you are a celebrity, almost 82 years th young grandchildren, i don't know. i don't know what would happen isto me if i did not do th. what would i think about myself? judy: we said it, you are an 81-year-old wan that still has a phenomenally successful career in eertainment. you are as active as anyone could be in the bar mental movement. is there a message for older women today? >> when yoare older, what do you have to lose? you are not in the market for a young guy that is scared of a strong woman. you can become who you were

meant to be and be brave. there are older people with ray hair out there every friday i get arrested with me that are just so great and some of them are nuns and some of them are rabbis and others are people that have come from different parts of the unithd states. an are old and it is beautiful. judy: you think there is more acceptance of that t >> older women haves alw tended to be the bravest. judy: what is your message to other women out there wondering -- should i step into this oen that i have fraid to get involved in? >> one of my purposes with fire drill friday is to show people the new normal. this is the kind of thing that has ma become n given what is going to have to happen. no matter who we electer in novend how progressive and

brave they are, it won't work unless we are going to hold their feet to the fire. during the new deal, frolic -- franklin delano roosevelt said to the people in the streets i agree with you. now go out and make me do it. whether it is obama or jerry brown, so many progressive poticians say to people -- make me do it. that means they can throw up their hands and say- is not my fault. we have to be in the streets and shutting down government if cessary. not just at the federal level but statand local governments as well. we have to be very brave and for 40 years we have rallied and spoken and written and not enough has hpened. we havo up the ante a little bit and risk getting arrested.

we have to not be afraid. s we have this as the way good citizens of the united states have to act. we have to be in the stree. judy: jane found up. >> judy woodruff judy: in washington making the case to fight climate change. >> thank you, judy. to wife are having me. dy: we heard her say all caps what you have to lose. for all of us at the "pbs newshour" thank you and see you soon. bnsf railway. coumer cellular. and with the ongoing support of these institutions. ♪ and friends of the newshour.

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♪ ♪ - you know, i think, wn you travel, the best way to find out about a culture and a cuisine is, simply order the chicken, because almost every culture and it says a lotish, about how people think about food and cooking. so we'll start in the philippines with a filipino chicken adobo, a classic dish with a great combination of flavors. then we'll visit london and nigella lawson, where she makes a chicken trayke. it's a roasting pan wi chicken parts, plus all the ingredients to make a sauce right on the tray.