captioning sponsored by wshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" night, crisis in bolivia. the country's longtime socialist presidensteps down as the streets erupt in violence and supporters cry foul over a suspected coup. then, how rudy guiliani went from america's mayor to a major player in the impeachmen inquiry. plus, our politics monday team breaks down what to expect from the start of public hearings. and art out of the land: why communities of artists, all across the country, are working to revive rural america. i think it's a bit of an equity thing. rural people are every bit asrv deseg of art as any other group, and maybe more so because they don't have as much access

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hong kong's leader vowed to "spare no fort" to bring an end to the violent demonstrations that have gripped the semi-autonomous chinese territory for over five mohs. blasts from riot guns echoed through the streets in central hong kong, the city'business district once again ground zero for clashes between police and protesters. thousands of anti-government demonstrators flooded the streets at lunch hour. they were met by police in riot gear, who fired tear gas, and sent the crowds sprinting away. protests began in the spring, first in opposition to a proposed law to extradite criminal suspects toainland china. they have morphed into calls for greater freedom and an end to attacks by police. >> they are not doing anything violent, and the police just shoot them. and we aregry about the police brutality. and there is no solution because

the government never responds to any of our requests on police violence.uf >> woodr the cries denouncing police violence grew louder today after an online video showed a protester being in it, an officer hong kong'sn eastern sai wa district grapples with a protester. as a masked man in black rushes toward him, the officer shoots him in the stomach. he is now in critical condition, bustable after surgery. police said the shooting was justified. >> ( translated ): it all happened just in a flash of a moment. he was trying to protehi himself and s pistol. >> woodruff: police also accused protesters of beating up a man and setting him on fire. hong kong executive carrie lam condemned the demonstrators and caed them "the people's enemy." >> if there's still any wishful thinking that by escalating violence the hong kong government will yield to

pressure to satisfy the so- called political demands, i'm making the statement clear and loud here, that will not happen. >> woodruff: in beijing, china's foreign ministry repeated claims that western governments are supporting and accelerating the protests. g ( translated ): hng affairs are purely china's internal affairs and no foreigne ment, organization or individual has the right to intervene.m we express fposition to anyone providing a platform or creating conditions for a activists orctivities pro-hong kong independence. >> woodruff: back in hong kong, clashes continued into the evening, as police firr gas from moving vehicles and protesters lit fires in the middle of the street. police sprayed water cannons to douse the flames and disperse the crowds. tensions were high in bolivia today, as the couny struggled

with a power vacuum left by the resignation of president evo morales. his 14-year rule came to an end sunday, after weeks of violentpr ests over claims of fraud in his re-election last month. but yestday's celebrations were quickly eclipsed by clashes and fires that raged into the night. we'll have a full report, right after the news sumry. the united nation's nuclear watchdog raised w concerns today about iran violating its 2015 nuclear deal. its inspectors discovered man- made uranium particles that tehran hadn't previously declared. they also confirmed iran is enriching uranium at its underground fordo facility. meanwhile in paris, european union members met to try to keep the nuclear deal alive. >> ( translated ): i think now it's time to make it clear to iran that it can't continue like this.t iran mlfil its obligations laid out in the treaty. but the country isn't doing that when uranium is being ed

again. we want to keep the deal in place, but that's only possible if iran fulfils its obligations, too. nuclear program re hisof iran's country was now producing more haw-enriched uranium daily previously believed, with the help oits fordo centrifuges. under the treaty, that facility was only to be used for research. turkey began sending captured foreign members of the islamic state-- including one u.s. citizen-- back to their home countries today. it follows a pledge lak to repatriate some 1,200 isis erghters detained in turkey. separately, a foritish army officer who helped found the syrian civilian rescue group "the white helmets" has died. the body of james le mesurier was found near his home in istanbul early today. authorities are investigating the cause of death. australia's most populous state, new south wales, declared an emergency today amid raging

wildfires. at least three people have died. the inferno began friday in the northeast part of the state. it's already destroyed more than 150 homes and burned nearly farmland.are miles of forest and fire officials warned conditions are expected to worsen.>> e continue to have more than 60 fires burning across new south wales, more than half of them remain uncontained.t we can exp see the alert levels increase on a number of these fires up in northern new south wales. the conditions are still extremely dry. the fire behavior is still quite volatile >> woodruff: australia's annual fire seasostarted earlier than normal, after an unusually warm and aridinter. australian environmental activists have linked thy fires' intens climate change, and said the government is not taking strong enough action. spain appears set for more uncertainty, after a second general election this year failed to end the country'spa

political e. sunday's vote put the ruling socialists in first place, but they failed to secure a parliamentary majority. meanwhile, the far-right "vox" party shot to third place, after more than ubling its seats in parliament. back in this country, a federal judge in washington has dismissed president trump's attempt to block a house committee from accessingis tax returns. the democratic-led ways and means committee is hoping to obtain mr. trump's new york tax records. the judge today ruled he doest ve jurisdiction over the case. that, leaving the option open to file the lawsuit in new york. new york congressman peter king announced today he won't seekle reion. the moderate republican was first elected to congress ines 1993, reting part of long island. king is the 20th house republican to announce plans to leave after next year's election.

a record-setting cold is causing patos of the american midwes experience january-like temperatures in november.at ame wintry blast brought more than three inches of snowto hicago today, forcing some 900 flights to be ncelled. one plane slid off the runway at o'hare international airrt, but no injuries were reported. stocks were flat on wall street today over uncertainty about u.s./china trade talks. the dow jones industrial avege gained ten points to close at a record 27,691. the nasdaq fell points. and the s&p 500 slipped six. and, america paid tribute to our nation's veterans today withce wreath-layinmonies, parades, and other events. president trump spoke at the 100th annual new york city veterans day parade, while vice president pence attended a solemn service at arlington national cemetery.

we'll have more on today's program.ations at the end of the still to come on the "newshour," a power vacuum in bolivia as the longtime leader steps down amidn viprotests. the long journey of rudy giuliani-- the man in the middle of the impeachment inquiry. amy walter and tamara keith ona the outset of storic week. plus much more. >> woodruff: pdasident trump praised the bolivian people and that nation'sry milior forcing the resignation yesterday of bolivia's longtime president, evo morales. mexico today announc it would offer morales asylum, as a power vacuum prevailed in the andean

naon. but with morales and his top deputies all gone, what now for bolivia? nick schifrin reports. >> reporter: today in la paz public buses sit torched and andoned. pharmacies are ransacked, and looted. south america's poorest country is violently divided, and right now, leaderless. >> ( translated ): what we need now is control over lootings, robberies that are taking place. but all of t citizens are in agreement that a change of government needed to happen. >> reporter: that change happedw yesterdan longtime president evo morales announced on state tv-- with a musical he was victim of a coup. >> ( translated ): i am reslyigning precio that my brother and sisters, leaders, authorities of the socialist movements don't conto be held hostage, chased, threatened. i am vy sorry for this civic coup d'etat. >> reporter: but what mocoles calls a , his opponents call the prevailing of democracy. for three weeks, hundreds of thousands of protestors filled

the streets, accusing morales of being a dictator and violating the constitution. before running for the fourth time last month, morales igned the results of a referendum on term limits. residents who filled the streets complained of increasing corruption. the protests became increasingly violent, with demonstrators and police clashing in clouds of tear gas. and yesterday morning, the final straw-- military commander williams kaliman said morales had to go. >> ( translated ): after analyzing the situation of ternal conflict, we suggest the president of the state resign his presidential mandate, allowing peace and continued stability for the good of our bolivia. was losing the conf theood he gorned, to a significant degree. >> reporter: robert garland is a former u.s. ambassador to bolivia. he acknowledges that morales was popular, and successfully helped lift up the poor to create ami le class.

>> he made enormous progress in but what has happened is that, in many way, he overstayed his and they've also wed corruption. financial corruption, but also political corruption. and so, people had begun to move taay from him, including a significant perc of people who had been supporters originally. >> reporter: morales was bolivia's first lener of rdiges origin. he was from thisal, poor area. and today, his supporters say he was overthrown by a middle class minority. kathryn ledebur is theolirector of aian think tank. >> it's interesting the way that the conflict has evolved now, it's really splitting down much more on class lines and hnic lines and rural-urban lines. >> reporter: morales supporters blame the military and police for acting illegally, and warn his ouster could lead to more violence. persists in the police force, the police force is an institution with deteriorated

credibility and now at this point in time, that situation has become even worse. >> reporter: after morales resigned, his vice president, the senate president, and the lower house president-- all in line to take over-- al resigned. opposition leader carlos mesa called the vacuum of power, the end of tyranny. >> ( translated ): the clear and unequivocal will of the democratic opposition, of the civic opposition and the bolivian citizenship, is that a mocratic government has to be built and that means strictly respecting the political constitution of the state. >> reporter: that could be led anez, whose emotioed in laanine paz today. whether she can successfully estransition away from mor could help influence democracy acro a region with a history of military coups. >> if it gs in the direction of either returning to the radical left, oroing further, or away from democracy, or a military dictatorship th could

give others ideas in other countries ideas, too. so this is in many ways, a kind of laboratory. >> reporter: there's still a debate, if this was democracy restored, or democracy denied. t both sides agree-- in today's bolivia, no one gets to stay in wer, forever. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin . >> woodruff: it has been another day of new twists and hundred more pages of documentss re in the impeachment inquiry. lisa desjardi an yamiche alcindor are here to help us so to both of yo, hello.tand it. this has all happened just in the last couple of hours. fact, one of these sets of transscripts, lisa, has come just within the hour. >> that's right. >> woodruff: so the two of you have been scrambling to catch

up, to read the trnscrypt. >> that's right. >> woodruff: so let's talk about these former, these are former former defense department officials. >> that's right. let's starred with laura cooper, a defense department official usually you have been hearing. from the diplomat. she is the deputy assistant defensesecretary, specializes in russia where she says she spends most of her time but also works on long-term strategy for russia and for ukraine. she has been with thse def department since 2001 but she says this year at one poialnt st all of her time was spent on ukraine because of what washa ening, in her transcrypt which you say we just got, we learned that there was high aid money to ukraine was being froze en. se is onetment of def of the last to sign off on that. they did sign off in june. w she san they learned it was frozen, that is something she oversees, no one understood it, and even more, judy, this is interesting. she says seniovolved in that process questioned if they usgally could preez it be congress had already

appropriated those millions of dollars, and it was ready to go. they weren't sure even the president had the ability to stop that money from flong to ukraine. >> woodruff: and this backs up other testimony given by others. h> it does. no one was surey the money was being frozen. >> woodruff: so ymiche, still more testimony from ven state department and one fstate department official. >> yes, so the next person whose transcrypt was released today is advisor for ukrainen, speci negotiations, also a career foreign service officer. and he was an aid to kurt volkea whthe u.s. envoy to ukraine at the time. filling in the gap with this irregular chan theal rudy giuliani had when it comes to our relationship wih ukraine and the u.s. policy with ukraine. he said that rudy giuliani was seen as an obstacle to both increasing relationship with ukraine but also as an obstacle when it comes to pressuring russia. the other thing is that he has a conversation with william taylor. that is the curent u.s.

ambassador to ukraine. and they both say look, we should not be pushing for any sort of individual investigation. they don't mention the bidens by name but they say anything having to do with that is really not something the u.s.uld be involved in. he dusker of course, also say that he didt actually hear vowrt kurt volker which slt u.s. envoy aine, he didn't actually hear him say that there was any sort of inv that needed to be done with the of course the company thatich is hunter biden was working for. >> woodruf and lisa, yet another set of transcrypts. >> right, so the woman without took over from christopher anderson is named katherine cross, she was en the next advisor to kurt volker. she is also ada specialisor for ukraine negotiations. now a couple of things about her. as youhe also worked on , raine issues for the national security councne years she has under her belt, as a matter service officer.reer foreign now what is interesting is she took over from the man, yam impe was just talking about in july. that is right as all of this was

starting to-- . >> woodruff: the middle of thisle >> the mihe said volker told her he was going to try to keep her outuf the gel annie mess. however she also said kurt volker came to hid about this of asking ukraine for an investigation and asked her have we ev done this before, meaning has the united states ever asked another cuntry for an investigation like this. it was that exceptional to them. one other note, the time li ee jupanded with her testimony. she said that the first-- theren waher package of ukrainian aid back in 2017.i at that nt one agency had objected to that ukrainian aid. it was mick mul vannee when he ran the office of bujts, and she testified lvaney didn't li it then because he was worried about what russia would think. the whole point of this aid is to protect ukraine from rus aggression. about what-- mulvaney worrieded about whawsh thought. >> woodruff: a different set of priorities.

and quickly mick mulvaney we learned he is trying to join the lawsuit by former nal security advisor john bolton and his deputy charles cupperman who are appealing whether they >> so the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney is very importanto to this, a lo the reasons lisa just pointed out. tere are officials and witnesses pointi mick mulvaney in their testimony house strategy, he was the onee having these conversations, now he is saying look, i want the courts to decide whether i should have to testify before congress. that is controversial becausehe works just a few feet away from the president, and essentially the white house is telling him we don't want you to show up toking could but if the court tell mick mulvaney shoip, he is saying might show up. that will be problematic for his retionship with president trump. the other thing is all the politics, mick mulvaney is se as on the outs with the president, still has an acting title, he is aing chief of staff, not permanent chief of

staff. and as a result people think that this is also possibly a warning to president trump that i could go to congress and tell things about you if you don't essentially bring me back into the innercircle. >> woodruff: very fast moving as we are now jut a little more than a day a which from these public hearings a nd at of fast work, thank you, yamiche and lisa. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: closed door testimonies from various state department ficials put rudy guliani at the center of the impeachment inquiry. he is the president's personaler la but now his own actions in ukraine, ones that are being called "shadow foreign policy," have put him and hde associates the microscope. yamiche alcindor has this report on how a man once known as america's mayor arrived at thi moment. sot guiliani 191111 8:20 t we just pray to god thawe can save a few people. >> alcindor: the attacks on september , 2001 thrust rudy guiliani onto the national stage. >> america's mayor. he's the mayor of new york city. ladies and gentleman, rudy giuliani.

>> i thank you for yr leadership on the ground. >> alcindor: for a city in crisis, giuliani, the mayor of new york, was seen as a steady leader. he helped rally those in grief and is often remembered for his fortitude during those times. prior to 9/11, giuliani waura divisive f >> i speak my nd. it was that way yesterday. 's going to be that way today. it's going to be the same tomorrow. >> alcindor: he presented himself as a tough on crime mayor who was going to clean up the city. >> it's gonna stop and end when we change the people who are running new york city.ut >> alcindor:nder his tenure, new york ushered in controversial policing tactics.n justice, no peace! >> alcindor: a federal judge later ruled some were racialsc minatory and was hence unconstitutional. before he was mayor, giuliani made a name for himself as one of the country's most powerful prosecutors. >> you're dealing with a true crime empire. >>aneporter: early in the re administration, he was the associate attorney general-- the

icird-highest position in the department of ju then, he became u.s. attorney for the federal prosecutor'sn officenhattan. there, he was known for going after corruption and organized crime. >> 12 board members have aided and abetted wire fraud.do >> alc andrea bernstein, co-host of the trump inc. vedcast from wnyc and propublica, has d giuliani for decades. >> he put the milies that ran e national mafia in prison. he sent corrupt litical figures to prison, including a business partner of rocohn, who president trump has often referred to as the lawyer none else could match. and he also went after wall street traders. >> alcindor: in new york, giuliani was a big name. so was donald trump. the two ran in similar circles: >> they're of a certain era and they both have really made their bones by selling their brands, in trump's case, glitz and

success, in rudy giuani's case, law and order. when rudy ran for mayor, trump became a major financial backer. and the giuliani administration helped trump's business projects, and they struck up a friendship, a chemistry, really, which has lasted all the way intolche present. indor: in the year 2000, the two appeared together in a comedy sketch for a press dinner.ou >> o dirty boy.do nald i thought you were a gentleman. >> alcindor: in 2007, not long after leaving the mayor's office, giuliani ran for the republican nominatiofor president. he was the frontrunner for several months, but dropped out afr the florida primary without securing a single delegate. >> thank you all for your hard work, your spirit, and your pport. >> alcindor: in 2016, guiliani was an early and voc supporter of then candidate trump: >> what i did for new york, donald trump will do to america.

>> alcindor: and when robert mueller began investigating the president as special counsel, mr. trump turned to giuliani to be one of his personal lawyers. giuliani took their defense right to the court of public opinion on tv. >> the president did not collude with the russians. whatever collusion is. >> alcindor: now, guiliani finds himself at the center of the impeachment inquiry. >> so you did ask ukraine to look into joe bi >> of course i did. >> alcindor: in closed door depositions on capitol hill, a parade of witnesses said giuliani played a critical role in shaping u.s. policy to ukraine to benefit president trump politically. the initial whistleblower complaint that sparked the :impeachment inquiry stat the president's personal lawyer, mr. rudolph giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. the top u.s. diplomat to ukraine, william taylor, told to u.s. house investigators he was coerned about giuliani's actions. he said giuliani was leading a" irregular, informal channel of u.s. pol to ukraine."h respect for guiliani, his work abroad has often been met with legal

scrutiny. in 2001 giuliani launched a lucrative consulting firm.ne his clients spthe globe-- brazil, qatar, romania, argentina. >> by the time he ran for president in 2007, his disclosure forms showed that he'd gone from having less than five million dollars in assets when he left city hall to about somewhere between 20 and $50 million in asset and much of that had come through these foreign business relationships. >> alcindor: a lot of that work remains mysterious, for example his work in turkey and with an iranian dissident group may have broken the law. >> rudy giuliani is going on a fishing trip, as in an information gathering trip i ukraine. >> alcindor: ukraine though is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. it mightlso be central to a possible criminal investigation into giuliani. >> a criminal investigation into rudy giuliani's work in ukraine. >> joining us now a key figure in the ukraine drama, rudy

giiani, the president's personal lawyer. >> alcindor: giuliani made his that began a decadine in 2003. consulting and publicity trips to the country. >> people in countries around e world see him as a conduit to the trump administration. he began going-- he beganai working in u for the mayors of various cities, for the mayor of harkif, for theyo of kiev. he began making trips there. it doe't seem like these trips involved real consulting work, maybe a speech, but nly appearances. >> alcindor: during the first two years of the trump administration, giuliani ramped up his trips to ukraine. when hsought to dig up dirt on president trump's political rivals there he turned to o associates: lev parnas and igor fruman. >> these two individuals with a series of fferent kinds of businesses but no real track record in american politics began to get very, very clos and to make very generous donations to trump's political causes. what was unusual about this is

that they really didn't have a business profile and in the case and yet they were making contributions running up to the hundreds of thousands of dollars to republican political causes. >> alcindor: giuliani dispatched parnas and fruman to kiev. they were to uncover information to undermine the u.s. intelligence community and special counsel mueller's findings that russia interfered in the 2016 election. in the efforts, the two connected giuliani with the ukrainian prosecutor general at the time, yuri lutsenko. >> lutsenko was a former prosecutor in ukraine and he is somebody that at one point i the past year said that he had information that could be damaging to the bidens and wasg workosely with rudyhi giuliani ieffort to, as giuliani saw it, expose some kind of malfeasance by the biden family.rt now, it's saying that there is no such evidence of that. >> alcindor: giuliani's meetings

ntth lutsenko are an impor thread in the impeachment investigation. as for pnas and fruman, they ran into their own legal troubles. >> this investation is about corrupt behavior. deliberate lawbreaki >> alcindor: the two have been indicted by federal prosecutors for allegedly illegally funneling caaign contributions to get the u.s. ambassador to ukraine removed from her post, among other charges. >> my knowledge in the spring and summer of this year about any involvement of mr. giuliani was in connection with a campaign against our ambassadori to ukrne. >> alcindor: that was president trump's nominee to be ambassador of russia, deputy secretary of state john sullivan, in his public confirmation hearing before the senate last month. as these questions swirl, giuliani has been noticeably absent from his once frequent tv appearances. he has been subpoenaed by the u.s. house. so farhe is refusing to comply. for the pbs newshour, i'm yamiche alcindor.

>> woodruff: to set the stage impeachment hearings, i'm here with amy walter of the "cook political report." she's also the host of public radio's "politics with amy walter." antamara keith from npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." and before i turn to both of you, and welcome by the y, politics monday, a little bit of late-breaking news. and we were just talking abou it with yamiche and lisa, and that is the inq try orhe filing by the acting white house chief of staff mick mul vaibee who was wanting-- mul scrainee who was wanting to join the cialuit by white house spe nalt security advisor john bolton, his deputy. charles cupperman, who were questioning their being spped to

subpoena to appear before congress. he has withdrawn that filing. he can set that aside for moment but the drama continuing as so many other pieces as bothu ofnow, now amy these hearings public hearings starting in two days. how is this going to be different from hearings behind closed doors? >> well, right other te fact it's public on camera. >> right. >> well, the ther row is that this could maybe change people's opinions about impeachment whict i'm very dol that is going to happen. if you go back and you look at what the puelic harings did era, they did mov publicment opinion pretty steadily. the summer of 1973 started and the impeachment hearings were public.they were watched by almt everybody, 70% of americans said they watched those hearings liver at some point. and the president nin, his approval ratings dropped significantly over that susmer-- summer, dropped about 13 points.st and intend support for

watergate rose.ion in let's fast forward to now. people are much more polarized and pahatisan even tn they were back in the 1970s. people are getting their information from so many different sources. there is not just fouron televitations. obviously people are going to go to the news sources for the internet or social media that appeals to them. and so wei think whatre going to see is one hearing and a lot ioof different interpret of that hearing by a lot of different sources. and we're going to see them, i think, americans still pretty well settled into how they feel about this, the one group that i'm watching for are those vip voters who probably haven't been paying that much attention as partisans have to this process. maybe they get involved a little bit. right now thy are a lit less supportive of impeachment than supportive of it. maybe this pushes that but it's going to be very hard to doat >> woodruff: we may see witnesses called by the republicans. ing to see how that plays out, right.

>> we are waiting to see how a at plays out. they have put inng wish list and the best way to they have sent to the democrats on the intelligence committee. the chairm adam schiff is the one without et goes to de soid ultimately. he has the ultimate power to decide who gets called. this list that republicans sent over includes names like hunter biden and the anonymous whistle-blower who they would t lihave publicly testify. schiff has made it clear he hasn noerest in either of those potential witnesses. but there e other names on that list like ambassador voaker or tim s morr who is a national security counsel aide or was. and both of them are people who have provided closed door depositions. in those depositions there were some ite that relicans took some solace in. moriston sai for instance, although he was concerned about the president's call with

zelensky he didn't think that a law had been broken.r his concerns wmore about u.s. and ukrainian relations and other things like that. but in their testimony, if you read it, there are also a lot of things inat are damto the president and that further corroborate this-- this narrative that democrats havebu t up around the call that democrats have been able to sort of corroborate around the call. and so it seems possible, at least, that democrats would be willing to hear from thse witnesses because they are not slam dunk great witnesses for the president. >> woodruff: that's right. biden,u mentioned hunte and joe biden. we will talk about very quickly. but is joe biden in the clar here? i mean we don't. >> well certainly republicans do not want to let him go in theey clear and ant to still make that case in the house. which as tam pointed out, is not likely to happen. where it could be an issue is if impeachment passes, it goes to the senate and st republicans in charge in the senate side of

duch course, and they can call witnesses therng the trial. >> an one other thing, in the sort of cross examination and in the questioning that republicans will do of these witnesses in this public hearing, private depositions they were biden so you can ect them to do that in public as well. >> for whatever reasons a man named mike bloomberg has decided, maybe joebiden's chances don't look as good as he thought a few months ago. i now seriously exploring getting in. amy, quickly to you first.is is thoing to change the race if he gets in. >> if he gets in, maybe. but on the margins. there has been conventional wisdom among, especially among democrats inde the beltway, elite and establishment that joe biden cannotwin theomination and elizabeth ren cannot win tha raceinst donald trump. anso what is happening today is this establishmentte group of people saying we've got to find a way to ensure that if it is not je biden, if he collapses because there is this assumption amongst this group

that he is going to collapse, that somebody has to be there as sort of the moderate standarder bear elizabeth warren's positions especially on things like medicare for all are way too far to the left for the swing state votersa but is mi bloomberg the answer that people are looking for?if ou are amy klobuchar or pete buttigieg, are you ways raising your hand saying you know what, i think i can pick up the slack if joe biden is not around. >> woodruff: biden is saying i'm not week, i am go win this.>> and he is still runningr president. and though it's interesting, of my colleagues spoke with one of biden's allies. who said well, you know f biden isn't in the race then micel bloomberg would be a great option which was slightly off message. >> woodruff: one if more than slightly, so very quily to amy klobuchar who said, we noticed yesterday in an intview, she was asked about pete buttigieg

who h done very well in the polls with money. and she said if the women on the stage, my felwolon senators harris, war reason and myself, do i think we would be standing on the stage if we had the same experience he had, no. maybe we're held to a different standard. are they? >>or sure, women are held to a different standard. at the same time i think it also shows the degree to which iowa has become the most importa state overwhelmingly. so if pete beut gietion gets a foothold by doing really well in iowa it puts choab char, harris, >> woodruff: double standard. >> certainly she is stating a fact american politics. women in politics tend not even to run sphor higher office or to run for the senate until theyuc are older because this has been the standard. there is like a desire to havea great amount of experience. >> woodruff: speakinhese women, we will see them and the guys on stage a week from this wednesday. tamara keith, amy walter, thank

you both. >> you're welcle. >> you're ome. >> woodruff: and we want you to please join us. pleaseoin us for special live coverage of the first public impeachment hearings. we start on wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. and be sure to sign up for our newsletter dedicated to the topic. you can find the link to subscribe at pbs.org/newshour/politics. >> woodruff: tomorrow the supreme court will hear arguments that could decide the fate of hundreds of thousands of dreamers. that's the younger generation of uncumented immigrants brought to this country and protected from deportation. the justices will hear argumentl over a series suits around the obama-era decision and it.rump's efforts to end whatever the outcome, it will be nsof the signature decis of this session and will land he middle of the 2020

campaign. amna nawaz looks at the stakes and how we got to this moment. >> nawaz: in 2012, then- president barack obama was running for re-election when he announced a new executive action: a program giving undocumented immigrants the chance to apply for protectionon from deporta >> this morning, secretary napolitano announced new actions my administration will take to mend our nation's immigration policy, to make it more fair, more efficient, and more just, specifically for certain young people sometimes called "dreamers." >> naw: those who qualified for the deferred action for childhood arrivals program, or daca, had to arrive inhe unit states before june 2007 before turning 16; be enrolled in school, or have a high scol diploma or g.e.d.; pass aba ground check, with no felony charges daca status shielded enrollees from deportation, was renewable every two years, and allowed

recipients to work legally in the u.s. nearly 800,000 people received that protection, includinggu ewaoluwaana. whether she and others should protections is a central question the supreme court will take up tomorrow. at the age of five, ogundana was brought to america from nigeria. she received daca status when she s 15. >> i was constantly insecure knowing i was an immigrant and hearing i didn'telong here just added to that insurity so when i had daca and knew i could work i could have a driver's license, i could drive, owcould like i had to be ie about anything anymore it broke that barrier of insecurity. >> nawaz: but the security daca provided was supposed to be only temporary, as presidama said in 2012. >> this is not a path to citizenship.

it's not a permanent fix. this is a temporary stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people. >> nawaz: the president's move was met by a republican chorus of criticism, branding daca illegal and unconstitutional. in 2014, when obama proposed expanding daca to protect parents of dreamers, the republican-controlled house struck back, voting to defund daca. 26 states followed with suits to block the expansion. in the years since, lawmakers have tried and failed to pass several bipartisan versions of the "dream act" to offer stalified dreamers a long-term solution, despitng bipartisan support for a legislative fix. >> i do believe it's unconstitutional whether you agree with the merits or not bub i alieve it should be replaced it comes to an end because it's replad by something constitutional which is a legislative action.

>> nawaz: dreamers' fate was thrown into further uncertainty when candidate donald trump vowed to eliminate dac entirely here he is, in june of 2015. >> i will immediately terminate president obama's illegal executive order on immigration, immediately.: >> nawce elected, president trump appeared to soften his stance. >> we're going to show great heart. daca is a very, very difficult subject for me, i will tell you. to me, it's one of the most difficult subjects i have, because you have these incredible kids, in many cases, not in all cases. >> nawaz: but seven months later, the administration announced it would be terminating daca. then-attorney general jeff sessions. >> to have a lawful system of immigration and serve the national interest, we cannot admit everyone who would like to come here. n >>az: courts have since halted theresident's move, and several offers to reform dacaee haverejectedy the trump administration, includingrt another bian bill from

illinois senator dick durbin, a democrat, and soblh carolina rean senator lindsey graham. >> there are a lot of people on the republican side ofisle that understand your dilemma and want to find a fair solution. you have done nothing wrong you came here as children you s contributed iety you passed criminal background checks.: >> nawazat plan included a 12-year path to citizenship, and $1.6 billion for the president's border wall. while the overwhelming majoritye of daca pients come from mexico, dreamers' come from atas 200 different countries, according to government data. today, after failed attempts to pass legislation and strike a deal with the administration, thfutures of roughly 700,0 people brought to this country as children lies with the supreme court. but the arguments heard by the justices may focus on very specific legal questions. lower courts have found the trump administration did not provide a solid rationale for its decision to end daca. the administration argues it has

the ability to do so through executive power. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz. f: >> woodrmericans are moving to rural areas in growing numbers. and some residents of those areas point to a perhaps unexpected pull: the arts. association reports that rural counties with performing arts orgazations had population growth three times higher than counties without them. jeffrey brown recently found a gathering celebrating and helping to spread this trend. it's part ofur ongoing arts and culture coverage, "canvas." >> brown: friday nig hot jazz, but we're not in a flashy ub in new york. this is the vfw in the town of

and rapids, in northern minnesota. on the guitar, sam miltich. who grew up here and has performed in hundreds of venues around the world, including ne but this small stage is home. >> people thoughi was kind of crazy to try and make a life as a jazz musician in northern minnesota. >> brown: yeah, it does sound a little crazy. >> it does sound a little crazy. and actually maybe iis a little bit crazy, but the quality of life where i grew up-- it was just so high and i was like acutely aware of how good that life was. and i wanted that life. so then it was a series of >> brown: and he's not alone. performing arts center that played host to a recent "rural arts and culture summit" and the summit is a biennial event this one brought tr some 350 artists and community leaders from 25 states, to exchange ideas, celebrate the role of creativity in small

towns, and fight a national narrative about rural america in cline. >> that's a pretty simple way to tell that story. tand i think underlying t story is often this attitude of sort of "well why don't you just get over it' or ¡why don't you just move?' anrei think that kind of ig the history and the complexity and it often ignores all of ther people who areng really hard to make what's next for that community. >> brown: laura zabel heads springboard for the arts, a minnesota organization that helps artists and organizations in both urban and rural areas, and puts on the summit. and where you see the arts fitting in-- what's the role of arts and artists? >> they are-- they sort li have this aty to bring together all of these different things that communities need. and i think that's necessary for rather than just t peoplerd that get over it. people need outlets for their pain and their shame and their joy.

>> brown: the summit focuses on the practical side of succeeding in rural areas: there are consultations for legal aid, economic planning and career with a dream of be professional dancer, molly johnston left her hometown of battle lake, minnesotaich has a population of less than 1,000, for college in philadelphia she remembers thinking she wouldn't return until rerement. >> i was the first one out of town after graduation, ready to explore the world. >> brown: but family and lifestyle pulled her back tole baake. the problem: how to make it work as a dancer. >> i'm creating opportunities that didn't exist in the first place. so it's not like-- >> brown: in what seple? i mean, n that to me. >> well i mean there's no dance studio in battle lake, for instance, so i can't just like walk in and be like, "hey, i have my masters in dance, can you give me a job and a weekly paycheck?"

>> brown: so she and a colleague created their own organization"" dancebarn collective," to put a festival and give opportunities to those living in rural communities. she also teaches dance classes to make ends meet. >> we're becoming part of our town's makeup that when they see that dancebarn doing a pop up show at the bar on thursday night people sw up and i think that's something really beautiful and surprising about living in a rural town, >> brown: jay arrowsmith decoux different perspective: as mayor of grand marais, minnesota, a o small toabout 1300 people that sits on lake superior, near the canadian border. it's a town that's long valued the arts, says, but is now making them part of its planning ved policies, like incorporating artists and creaesign into the reconstruction of a local highwa >> the idea is if you can at least consider art when au're

working policy then you won't create barers to the development of art in your community. >> brown: everyone here acknowledges the challenges of making a life in art in a small town: earning enough income, housing, finding an audience. >> there's a lot of this that is really-- that's uncomfortable for us. faced those and other challenges firsthand. a member of the leech lake band of chippewa, she lives in east lake, on the reservation, and works as a fashion designer, incorporating traditional patterns into contemporary othing. but lack of access to proper equipment and technology are a constraint. the wifi in hearea, she said, isn't "even worthaying for." >> we do have those challenges and then on top of us being indinous people, it becomes more challenging. and the accesshat these, that the non-indigenous population has to like arts spaces and resources.

it just, it's there right in front of them and it comes to th and people feel more comfortable inviting them to those things. >> brown: so you don't have that? >> no, no we just don't have that. a >> brown: here in grand rapids, where the massive paper mill and the crucial timber industry have struggled, aarts community has blossomed. there's a gallery and small shops; pop-ups in the beautifully-restored old school house, an art walk on the first friday of each month. and jazz guitaristam miltich, a full-time musician, is a regular at the v.f.w. with grants from a state sales tax fund for arts and culture, he's able to bring musicians from urban areas to play with him in grand rapids. miltich says he feels a sense of mission. >> i think someone dubbed the term jazz ambassador of the nortor some such thing. you know and i've always-- >> brown: which you embrace? >> which i embrace. >> brownyeah. >> and i've always felt, i think

it's a little bit of an equitye thing whalways have felt that rural people are every bit as deserving of art as any other group and ybe more so because they don't have as much access to it. so it's about providing access >> brown: for springboard's >> brown: for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in grand rapids, minnesota. >> woodruff: we close tonightof with a touommemorations on this veteran's day, from the president's visit to new york city, the vice president's trip to arlington national cemetery, and beyond, as america halted to express its gratitude to the men and women who have defended the united states. >> today we gather to recognize the service of everyday patriots who have dedicat their lives to our country.

men and women who raise their hand and take a solemn oath. >> veterans community really stands for solidarity regardless of the things that separate americans. service, honor, trust and respect of one another have been the hallmark of every successful veterans organization. ♪ ♪ >> you put on the armor, you stood in the gap, and you defended our freedom. you counted our lives more important than your own. you stood for a cause greater than yourselves.ho >> we salute who came home with scars of war, who continueg to daily against mental emotional and physical disabilities. we can never thank them andem support thnough, they are an inspiration to us all.

>> when our veterans complete their service it beche shared duty of all americans to serve our veterans, to listen, to care and support their needs. >> their service and sacrifice from the gas filled trenches of world war i to the mountains of afqanistan and deserts of i chronicle much of the history of w.e century just passed, and the one we are in >> on veterans day our nation stdedicates itself to our solemn duty. while we can never repay our warriors for their boundless service and sacrifice, we must uphold supreme vigilance, our sacred obligation to care for those who have borne the battle.

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