tonight on kqed newsroom we talk with the newly elected district attorney chesa boudin on his remarkable victory and his priorities inoffice. also thamerican public will hear directly from the witnesses in the impeachment investigation of president trump . in less than two weeks millions of people will gather around the dinner table to lebrate thanksgiving. >> good evening and welcome to kqed newsroom. interview with san francisco's newly elected district attorney, chesa boudin . last saturday deputy public defender chesa boudin declared victory in the close contrast for th

next da. election night. close call after four days of counting ballots studio loftus concede to chesa boudin. bernie sanders congratulated him a sign of the national attention the rays garnered ande criminal justicerms resonate with voters. >> thank you so much for coming to kqed . as you know, san fransco is considered a liberal city. the last agape is considered among the most progressive in the state. i think you are seen as a departure even care. can you talk about what fundamental changes you want tos bring to office? >> i think there is a broad recognition that the status quo has failed. the war on drugs the horrific atracial disparitiesevery step of the criminal justice system are undermining the justice and undermining public

safety. my ision is to make the criminal justice system keep us safer by healing the harm the crime causes the victims and fo communities ansing on rehabilitation for peop that ll get released and come back into the community. >> on day one, what is your first priority. are you reviewing past cases, are you looking forward to new cases, what is the first priority for u? >> the first priority is building a team imp policy reforms i was selected to put in place. ic i was specabout the policies we would put into effect and i want to make sure we have a team ready to do that on day one. things like ending money bail and to tell my staff we no longer put a price tag on freedom. when someone is too dangerous to be released the community

we will asked the court to detain them. wealth will not play a role and who was in jail and who's on the street. >> 80% of people are pretri and the racial disparities are quite alarming with more than half the people mentally ill or drug addicted. could this end up in an >> my hope is that it will reduce rather than increase. there is about 20% of the general population in il simply because of poverty and because of an inability to pay the price tag on the release. th goal would be to find those people and identify nonmonetary their safe releasethat will r ensure they will come back to court and ensure the community is safe without havi them sit in jail while the case is litigated. >> a lot of the things you talk

about in your campaign go beyond your purview. we saw a deal between the mayor and the board of supervisors in expanding mental heth access in san francisco. will that be key making your successful? >> i think it is critic and i was proud to stand on the stairs with the mayor and i know that 75% of the people taken to jail in san francisco are drug addicted, mentally ill, or both. drug t atment is essential to reducing crime and reducing the general population and making our communities safer. i am excited to partner with those leaders and all of the leaders in san francisco committed to finding mental c heale for those on the street. it is not st humane but it's also how we prevent crimes in the first place. >> the public, the police

you. e union came out attacking i think there is anxiety among law enforcement including th te das office about what your tenure will be in for folks. do you think it would be a good thing and some prosecutors would move on yoare hoping to retain the staff that exists there and how do you build those relationships? >> i am willing towork with everyone w has common ground on making san francisco's safe. there is room to disagree about what the best ways to do it are . i was elected byvoters to do specific things and i was intentional and specific. >> we have lege mental pr in san francisco and a lot of street crimes very visible to people. how do you intend tobalae associate for a prosecutor to get involved with if you want

to focus your resources on violent crimes. >> let me start by saying being homeless is not a crime and being mentally ill is not a crime. about 40% in the jail, there's a tremendous amount of police interaction. my commitment is to make every arrest an opportity for intervention. there is a big difference between saying we do not think misdeanors or go to trial and we are nogoing to osecute any just, misdemeanors which ve never said. i will prosecute misdemeanors that i want to find ways to fos on treatment and transforming lives away from crime rather than securing a criminal convictions at all >> sts. e have seen for example arrest rates go down in san francisco.

how do you read of those statistics and e you concerned the police could attempt to undermine what you want to do? >> i hope we wi be ableto work together and it starts with me communicating to police i have their back. what that looks like will depend on the case but is very clear e cannot prosecr ways out of problems with polie making arrests in less than 2% of reported to burglaries. i look forward to sitting down with the chief of police and coming up with strategies for preventing auto burglaries and taking apart the networks responsible for as much as 70% esof auto burglain san francisco. we cannot prosecute our way out of this problem if police just make arrests d only of the cases. >> your parents, your dad is

still in present. weekend. u visited him last you have been a public defender for many years. what will it feel like to be on the other thsi of court room and sending people to prison in a few months? >> it is a change but thit is place of work for many years. i'm the only candidat thhas worked in the hall of justice for the last six years or more and it is a placthat i ve. i have deep relationships with the staff and every different department. even the building. i look forward to having it replaced and i know we need to replace it but at the end of the day i think everyone who works in ilthe ng is committed to public safety and finding ways tomake sure those who have been arrested do not come back. we have a different role and a different perspective on the issues and one of the eat feelings of the criminal justice system as

i have experienced it as a child of incarcerated parents has been we failed to honor andf dithe suffering of victims and i am committed to doing a more proactive job as district attorney and reachi out to cts and giving them a voice and focusing resources on healing the harm the victims suffer. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. great to be th you to extract this morning former u.s. ambassador marie yovanovitch testified on capitol hi . ita second day of public vestigation of president nt trump. she described the emotiol toll of being the target of a smear campaign rudy giuliani that led to her removal. she said she felt writteby the president. president trump disparaging remarks about her and her dismissal. on wednesday george kent and ar

william taylor ap before the house intelligence committee and described the shadow diplomatic effort led by giuliani to investigate trumps political rivals and the president asked another diplomat about the status of the investigations. with the snow is correspondent ron l thing and he joins us via skype from washington dc. thank you formaking time at the end of a busy day. >> let's talk about the treat. can yotalk about what happened in the hearing room. if adam sactually read it to the ambassador and what was the reaction from the ambassador? >> she seemed to be taken aback by it.'s seem to force her to reli a moment of iran life last spring when she suddenly found out in the middle of the

night she was losing her position and she needed to come back to the stat and that people were unhappy with her as the ambassador to ukraine and this was largely framed in terms of the white hous and so it was quite a lot to handle in the middle of the night and dd ly making airplane arrangements to go home. today was a little bit like that. she's just starting out on d national television st beginning and suddenly the president is tweeting about her and saying about her everywhere she went for the state department things went bad. such as in somalia and places where she was being assigned as a hardship thpost and gs had already gone pretty bad and some of those countries. assigning that plane to her was quite an assault on the part ofd the prt just at that moment of her beginning to give her testimony on national television and it was clearly taken b eryone in the room as intended to throw her off and in some sense or another

beat her back as witness. >> the reaction we have heard inside the committee room and outside is that this was an attempted intimidating a witness. adam schiff id it most clearly. do you think this is something that will add to the impeachment case for democrs? >> and a sense, witness intimidation or witness tampering could become another charge ithe sense at it is after all a crime to interfere with a witness in a legal preeding. this is more of a political proceedi but nonetheless when you're talking about articles of impeachment they will sell my crimes and some of the most unlike offenses in some sense ntamount to criminal behavior . because of the nature of this process it seemed to be adding el to the fire. many of the commentators even people sympathetic to the yi president are i wish he hadn't done that. ken starr said he thought it wahurting the president's case

>> what about the republicans in the room. we have seen a unified effort to not really attack the substance these legations but the process by republicans. how did they tried to delicately dance around something that a lot of them seemed upset it happened at all. >> ntthe esl way the republicans related today to marie yovanovitch was to say why are we here and why e you here? you are not a material fact witness. you did not see the presidt commit a ime. you did not see the president bribe anyone. is bribery the word they're using for this whole transaction going on with the ukrainian president. were not actualpresent for u any criminal activity, why are you here? you have a story to tell and yo are a person with a strong record and much to say but

you're not a material wness and were not sure why we are questioning you i. think one of the more powerful moments of the day was when ambassador yovanovitch was asked about the readout of that july 25 phone call between the president of ukraine and president trump and she was referenced in that call. the president called her bad news. she kept together quite a bit but she seemed a little emotional when she was asked about that >> this is a person with a 33 year career and she started at the state department under ronald reagan and she was raised to e ambassador of ukrainby barack obama. she's been a lot of places and undergone a lot of hardships d yet there was something about the way she was being used and ill used and abused by this process back rito the that clearly had tested her. and she was being rced to relive a lot of it for a

under a great dealof pressure >> the other revelation came on wednesday the top diplomat to ukraine was testifying. the member of my staff could he trump on the phone asking the ambassador about the investigations he told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call with president trump the member of my staff asked him what trump thought raabout e. he resnded and said president trump cares more about the investigations abide in which giuliani was pressing for. >> so this is a new allegation that does sort of undercut whate we've been hearing you said nobody was actually privy to any of wiese conversations the president. do we exct to heardirectly from that staff are? >> david holmes is testifying on friday not in the om where

we watch the ambassador question today, it down in the cryptand it is a secure area under the capital building and the committees members from an republnd democratic side prepared to r at facility af today's open hearings to hear from this staffer. possibly we will get a deposition frothat over the weekend and maybe not until next week. maybe mr. holmes will be brought forward as a witness iny the public and possibly not. we are expecting the committee said be back anon saturday meeting in secret behind closed doors to hear from another person who may have first-hand evidence of what has happened his name is mark sandy and he woofs for the ce of management and budget involved in the holding up of these funds for ukraine's defense. >> this change thdynamic?

we are hearing nancy pelosi use different language like bribery and not just quid pro o. is that a pr change or do you think it could impact the substance of this imn?achment investigat >> the language of the constitution says treason, bribery,igh crimes and misdemeanors no e since medieval times had a sharp sense of what was meant by high crimes and misdemeanors. there was a phrase that used to in 1787 when they wrote the constitution. itis a phrase that has some utility then and it doesn't mean much to people now. if they have to impeach president trump using language of that ki, seit s vague and hard to understand for most people. if they can define something he was doing as bribery and the republicans rejected that out of nghand sahere's so bribery here, co and there d be cast in that

ogkind of terminit would theoretically be more powerful. >> you mentionemark lowe store testimony. what do we expect next week? >> tuesday, wednesday, and thursday hearinth eight witnesses who have been deposed will be back and in public. the most important one is the man who seems to up for the most frothe president with regards to that. if we are interested in what people overheard we are interested in what he was hearing himself? >> we will see more to come. thank you so much for your time. >> in less than two weeks millions of friends and familieswill gather at dinner tables across america for thanksgiving. 46 million turkeys will be gobbled up according to the tial turkey federation.

this finicky bird can take hours to perfect. in california, migrant communitie are fusing this with fvors from their homelands. joining me is food editor with sunset magazine. thank you for joing me. i'd like to talk about sides and immigrant dishes butwe e got to start with the bird. that is the centerpiece of a lot of tables. what are your biggest tips for making a successful turkey more amateur chefs? e o are >> i think one of the things is dealing with the space. if you're a chef you have a walk in and that's a great place to brine bird and give it plenty of time. for home cooks is easier to dry brine which is oflot salt and seasoning overnight and that will help you get a crispy >> you can leave it uncovered

because the cool air, the fridge is a great place to dry things out. i also think, do not use one of those aluminum roasting pans. your turkey will shift around. the stowaways. invest in one. ik has some. someth g sturdy that wihold your bird safely when you are taking it out of the oven. >> what are your top tips? is a bird necessary to make a thanksgiving? >> not necessary. growing up as a filipino america there a is always pressure to have a turkey on the table and have mashed potatoes and the past few years we've been serving filipino food because growing up was like having a turkey and recently the past two years have been doing filipino food a banain leaves

your hands and incorporating filipino dishes. >> so you n do both. vegetarian or vegan? are there other ways to stand-in for a yes. ish? i think there are so many good things to do with vegetables that you may not even need a turkey. to meet the sides of the best thing anyway. right now there are so many different optionfor milk, cheese, otherwise simply roasting things, put chili isp in your green beans or use different condiments to jazz stuff up. i think there is a lot you can do. >> yesor no, but the stuffing inside or no? >> i don't. think it's a combination of the temperature of the turkey and if you want to nail down the stuffing i think is crucial to do it

separately and not have a mushy, you want that texture in their. you don't want to put too much en is in the turkey you're battling with taking the moisture out of the doturkey. you make special stuffing or traditional for that as well ? >> i go more traditional. monds in their for a little mo texture. maybe some chicken liver or sml parts of the turkey just to havesome meat in there and some spicy sausage. california is such a diverse place and your family has you want the holiday table to be . is it now a mix ordo you guys , do you try to do both to make everybody happy? >> we want tomake everyone happy.

the majority wins. i think it is like we want to do some of the different, this whole thing wi filipino style of eating is and coming. recently i just did an interview with sf chronicle that will reb i believe on the 22nd about hawaii and. >> what kind of dishes e we talking about? >> it could be anything, a ab. pino noodle dish, dungeness >> i was just about to bring that up. >> it is such a san francisco thing and everyone getsseveral crab. garlic rice, dungeness crab pickled vegetables and everybody just grabng stuff an is such a family environment and everyone is eating at the same time

standing up. itis great. >> i know you also share the r love dungeness crab. i just read that the alcommer season will open on november 22 so in time for thangiving. >> my favorite way hands down is tdo a roast garlic chili crab. is it really simple and i always ask whole foods or whoever to crack it and clean it for inyou and it home and it's so much better. a ton of butter. shallots, garlic, olive oil, d pper flakes, heat it up x and em up and throw it in a hot oven. it is the most fun to do. i'm getting hungry right now >> we talked a little bit about side dishes. they can steal the show. we are armenian on meone and we like to do rolled grape leaves. what amecan elements or ways

that you may be fusing things since that's what your business is all about? >> i have tried it in the past and i tried turkey which incorporating the turkey and i tried something a little bit different. we do have that option in our restaura also. soy, viner, chili, and a little pineapple juice. >> i bbq it and there wechop it up and put it in a second marinade with lemon juice and soy sauce. it worked. something differt and i think the turkey is a little bit different and playing utbrussel sp just roasting it and throwing a little bacon in there to have a little bit of cloudiness to win. >> ellen, any sides that you are seeing out there that e

new and exciting are different from the traditional brussels sprouts green bes? >> i think because ose things are seasonal people continue to use them. stuffing i'm seeing people use hot honey or mixingup reserve lemon and adding a lot more acid and topping them with different things rather ththan sweet and buttery situation. green beans with that chinese condiment chilly chris is real good. addingin different flavor profiles >> what are thbiggest mistakes that people makee ? >> for sure with the turkey there's always a over cooking of the breast. you want to remove their breasts. the legs take longer. take the breasts often is the legs and everything is the erright teure. and the other g is timing. i have one ov. i would love

e of those doubovens but since we don't have that the hardest part is heating up e sides pick >> thank you both so much for coming in. i can't wait to hear what you do for thanksgiving. >> that will do it for us as re always find moof our coverage at kqed.org/news. thank you for joining us.

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