tonight kqed newsroom we talk with the newly elected district attorney chesa boudin on his remarkable victory and his priorities in office. also the american public arwill irectly from the witnesses in the impeachmt investigion of president trump . in less than two weeks millions of people will gather around the dinner tae to celebrate thanksgiving. >> good evening and welcome to kqed newsroom. we begin tonight with an interview with san francisco's newly elected district attorney, chesa boudin . last saturday deputy public defender chesa boudin declared victory in the close contrast for the

next da. the race was too close to call on election night. after four days of counting ballots studio loftus concede to chesa boudin. bernie sanders congratulated him a sign of the national attention the rays garnered and criminal justice reforms resonate with voters. >> thank you so much for coming to kqed . as you know, san francisco is considered a liberal city. the last agape is considered among the most progressive in the state. i k thyou are seen as a departure even care. can you talk about what fundamental changes you want to bring to this office? er>> i think is a broad recognition that the status quo has failed. the war on drugs the horrific racial disparities at every ep of the criminalstice system are undermining the

justice and undermining public safety. my vision is to make the criminal justice system keep safer by healing the harm the crime causes the victims and communities and focusing on rehabilitation for people that will get released an come ba into the community. >> on day one, what is your first priority. are you reviewinpast cases, are you looking forward to new cases, what is the first priority for you? >> the first priority is building a team implementing policy reforms i was selected to put in place. i was specific about the policies we wod put into effect and i want to make sure we have a team ready to do that on day one. things like ending money bail and to tell my staff we lono er put a price tag on freedom. to be released to the community

we will asked the court to detain the wealth will not play a role and who was in jail and who's on etthe st >> 80% of people are pretrial and the cial disparities are quite alarming with more than half the people mentally i or drug addicted. d cois end up in an increase? >> my hope is that it will reduce rather than increase. there is about 20% of the general population in jail simply beuse of poverty and because of an inability to pay the price tag on threlease. the goal would be to find those people and identify nonmonetary conditions that can allow for their safe release that will ensure they will come back to court and ensure the community is safe without having them sit in jail while the case is

litigated. >> a lot of the things you talk about in your campaign go beyond your purview. we saw a deal between the yor and the board of supervisors in expanding mental health access in san francisco. will that be key in making your successful? >> i think it is critical and i was proud to stand on the stairs with the mayor and i know that 75% of the people taken to jail in san francisco are drug addicted, mently ill, or both. drug treatment is essential to reducingcrime and reducing the general population and making mm our ities safer. i am excited to partner with those leaders and all of the leaders in san francisco committed to finding mental health care for those on the street. it is not just humane but it's also how we prevent crimes in the first place. >> the public, the police

office union came out attacking you. i think there is anxiety among law enforcement including within te das office about whatour tenure will be in for folks. do you think it would be a go thing and some prosecutors would move on are you hoping to retain the staff that exists there and how do you osbuild relationships? >> i am willing to work with everyone who has common ground on making san francisco's safe. there is room to disagree about what the best ways to do it are . i was elected by voters to do specific things and i was intentional and specific. >> we have huge mental problems in san francisco and a lot of street crimes very visible to peoplehow do you intend to bala associate for a prosecutor to get involved with if you want

to focus yourresources on violent crimes. >> let me start by saying being homeless is not a crime and being mentally ill is not crime. about 40% in the jail, there's a tremendous amount of police interaction. my commitment is to makey ev arrest an opportunity for intervention. there is a big difference between saying we do not think misdemeano or go to trial and we are not going to prosecute any ju, misdemeanorswhich i've never said. i will prosecute misdemeanors that i want to find ways to focus on treatment and transforming lis away from crime rather than securing a criminal convictions at all costs. >> we have se for example arrest rates go down in san

francisco. how do you read of those statistics and are you concerned the police tocould attempt undermine what you want to do? >> i hope we will be able to wo together and itstarts with me communicating to police i have their back. what that looks like will depend on the case but is very clear we cannot prosecute our ways o of problems with police are making arrests in less than 2% of reported auto burglaries. rw i look d to sitting down with the chief of police and coming up with strategies for preventing auto burglaries and taking apart the networks responsible for as much as 70% of auto burglaries in ansan we cannot prosecute our way out of this problem if police just make arrests and only 2% of the cases. >> your parents, your dad is

still in psent. i know you visited him last weekend. you have been a public defender for many years. what will it feel like to be on the other side of the court room and sending ople to prison in a few months? >> it is a change but it is the place of mawork for years. i'm the only candidate that has worked in the haof justice for the last six years or more and it is a place that i love. i hash deep relatis with the staff and every different department. even the building. i look forwd to having replaced and i know we need to replace it butat the end of the day i think everyone who works in the building is committed to public safety and finding ways to make sure veose who been arrested do not come back. we have a different role and a different perspective on the issues and one of the great feelings of cr

thinal justice system as i have experienced it asa child of incarcerated parents has been we failed to honor and dignify the suffering of victims and i am committed to doing a more proactive job as district attorney and reaching out to victims and giving them a voice and focusing resources on healing the harm the victims suffer. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. great to be with you to extract this morning former u.s. mbassador marie yovanovitch testified on capitol hill. it was a second puday of ic hearings into the impeachment investigation of president trump. she described the emotional toll of being the target of a smear campaign rudy giuliani that led tol.her remo she said she felt written by the president. president trump diabaraging remarkt her and her aysmissal. on wedne george kent and

william taylor appeared before the house intelligen committee and described the shadow diplomatic effort led byi uliani to investigate trumps political rivals and the president asked another diplomat about the status of the investigations. with the snow is correspondent ron l thing and he joins us via skype from washington dc. thank you for making time at the end of a busy day. >> let's talk about the eat. can you talk about inat happenedthe hearing room. adam schiff actually read it to the ambassador and what was the reaction from thambassador? >> she seemed to be taken aback by it.'s seem to force her relive a moment of iran life last spring when shsuddenly found out in the middle of the

night she was losing her position and she needed tocome back to the states and that people were unhappy with her as the ambassador to ukraine and this w largely framed terms of the white house and so it was quite a lot to handle in the middle ofthe night and suddenly making airplane arrangements to go home. today was a little bit like she's just startiout on national television and just beginning and suddenly the president is tweeting about her and saying about her everywhe she went for the state department things went bad. such as in somalia and places where she was asbeing assigned a hardship post and things had already gone pretty bad and some of those countries. assigning that plane to her was quitan assault on the part of the president just at that moment of her beginning to give her testimony on nation a televisi it was clearly taken b everyone in the room as intended to throw her off

and in some ansense or her beat her back as a witness. >> the reaction we have heard inside the committee room and outside is that this was an attempted intimidating a witness. adam schiff said it most do you this is something inclearly. that will add to the impeachment case for democrats? and a sense, witness intimidation or witness tamperin could become other charge in the sense that it is after all a crime to interfere with a witness in a legal proceeding. this is more of a political proceeding but nonetheless wh you're talking about articles of impeachment they will sell my crimes and some of the most unlike fenses in somesense tantamount to criminal behavior . because of the nature of this procs it seemed to be adding fuel to the fire. many of the commentators syeven peopleathetic to the president are saying i wish he hadn't done that. ken starr said he thought it was hurting the prident's case

>> what about the republicans in the room. we have seen a unified effort to not real attack the substance of these allegations but the process by republicans. how did they tried to delicately dance around something that a lot of them all. d upset it happened at >> the essential way the republicans related today to marie yovanovitch was to say why are we here and why are you you are not a material fact witness. you did not see the president commit a crime. you did not see the president bribe anyone. bribery is the word they're using for this whole transaction going on with the ukrainian president. if you didn't see it and you were not actually present for ti any criminal ty, why are you here? you have a story to tell and you are a person with a strong record and much to say but

you're not a material witness and were not sure why we are questioning you. >> i think one of the more powerful moments of the day was when ambassador yovanovitch was asked about the readout of that july 25 phone call e between president of ukraine and president trump and she was referenced in that call. the president called her bad news. she kept it together quita bit but she seemed a little emotional when she was asked about that >> this is a rson with a 33 year career ted she stat the state department under ronald reagan and she was raised to the ambassador of ukraine by barack obama. she's been a lot of places and undergone a lot of hardships and yet there was something about the way she was being used and ill used and abused by this process back to the spring that clearly had tested her. and she was being forced to

relive a lot of it for a national television audience under a great deal of pressure >> the other revelation came on wednesday the top diplomat to ukraine was testifying. >> the member of my staff could hear trumpon the phone asking the ambassador about the investigations. he told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call with president trump the member of my staff asked him what trump thought about ukraine. he responded and said president trump caremore about the investigations abide in which giuliani was pressing for. >> so this is a new allegati that does sort of undercut what we've been hearing like sayou nobody was actually privy to any of these conversations withn the pres do we expect to hear directly from that staff are? >> david holmes is testifying on friday not in the room where

we watch the ambassador question today, it down in crth t and it is a secure area under the capital building and the committees members from republican and decratic side prepared to that facility after ritoday's open hs to hear from this staffer. possibly we willget a deposition from that over the weekend and maybe not until next week. maybe mr. holmes will be brought forward as witness in the public eye and possibly not. we are expecting the committee said be back on saturday and meetinedin secret behind cl doors to hear from another evidence of what has happened his name mark sandy d he works for the office of management and budget involved in the holding up of these defunds for ukraine's nse.

>> this is change the dynamic? we are hearing nancy pelosi use different language like briberyd and not just pro quo. is that a pr change or do you substance of this impeachment investigation? >> the language of the constitution says treason, bribery,igh crimes and misdemeanors. no one since medieval times had a sharp sense of what was meantn by high crimes misdemeanors. there was a phrase that used to get it done at the convention in 1787 when ey wrote the constitution. it is a phrase that has some utility then and le doesn't mean much to pe now.if they have to impeach president trump using language of that kind, it seems vague and hard to understand for most peopleth. if can define something he was doing as bribery and the republicans rejected that out of hand saying there's so hebriber, and there could be cast in that

kind of terminology it would theoretically be more powerful. >> you mentioned mark lowe what do weexpect next week? >>tu day, wednesday, and thursday hearings with eight witnesses who have been deposed will be back anin public. po the most ant one is the man who seems to for the most from the president with regards to that. if we are interested in what people overheard we are interested in what he was hearing himself? >> we will see more to come. thank you so much for your time. >> in less than two weeks millions of friends and families will gather at dinner tabl across america for thanksgiving. 46 million turkeys will be gobbled up according to the national turkey deration.

this finicky bird can take hours to perfect. in california, immigrant communities are fusing this with flavors from their holands. joining me is food editor with sunset magazine. thank you for ining me. i'd like to talk about sidegr and imt dishes but we've got to start with the bird. that is the centerpiece of a lot of tables. what are your biggest tips for making a ccessful turkey especially for more amateur chefs? >> i think one of the things ish dealing the space. if you're a chef you have a waa in and that's great place to brine a bird and give it plenty of time. for home cooks is easier to dry brine which is a lot of salt and seasoning overnight and that will help you get a crispy skin and season your turkey.

>>u can leave it uncovered because the cool air, the fridge is a great placto dry things out. i also think, do not use one of those aluminum roasting pans. your turkey will shift around. the stowaways. invest oneikea has some. something sturdy that will hold your bird safely when you are taking it out of the oven. is a bird necessary to make a thanksgiving? >> not necessary. growing up as a filipino america there is always a pressure to have a turkey on the table and have mashed espotaand the past few years we've been secaing filipino food e growing up was likehaving a turkey and recently the past two years have been doing filipino food a banana leaves

using your hands and incorporating filipino dishes. >> so you can do both. >> what about people who are vegetarian or vegan? are there other ways to stand-in for a main dish? >> yes. i think there are so many good things to do with vegetables that you may not even need a turkey. to meet the sides of the best ing anyway. right now there are so many different options for lk, cheese, otherwise simply roastiings, put chili crisp in your green beans use different condiments jato stuff up. i think there is a lot you can do. >> yes or no, but the stuffing inside or no? >> i don't. i think it's a mbination of the temperature of the turkeyan if you want to nail down the stuffing i

think is crucial to do itd separately not have a mushy, you want that texture in their. you don't want to put too much liquid. when is in the turkey you're battling with taking the moisture out of the turkey. >> do you makespecial stuffing or traditional for that as well ? >> i go more antraditional. ifhing, i would throw almonds in their for a little more texture. maybe some icken liver or small parts of the tuey just to have some meat in there and some spicy sausage. úthat it was in the turkey. ing california is such a diverse place and your family has evolved around how traditional you want the holiday table to be . it now a mix or do you guys , do you try to doboth to make everybody happy? happy.want to make everyone

the majority wins. i think it is like we want to do some of fferent, this whole thing with filipinost e of eating is up and coming. recently i just did an interview with sf chronicle that will be aired i belie on the 22nd about hawaii and. talking about? dishes are we >> it could be anything, a filipino noodle dish, dungeness crab. >> i was just about to bring that up. >> it is such a san francisco thing and everyone gets several crab garlic rice, dungeness crab pickled vegetables and everybody just grabbing stuff and it is such a mily

environment and everyone is eating at the same time standing up. it is great. >> i know you also share the love for dungeness crab. at i just read the commercial season will open on november 22 so in time for thanksgiving. >> my favorite way hands down is to do a roast garlic chili crab. it is really simple and i always ask whole foods or whoever to crack it and clean it for you and bring it home and it's much better. a ton of butter. shallots, garlic, olive oil, red pepper flakes, heat it up and mix them up and throw it in a hot oven. it is the most fun to do. i'm getting hungry right now >> we talked a little bit about side dishes. they can steal e show. we are armenian on one time and we like to do rolled grape leaves. what american elements or ways

that you may be fusing things since that's what your business is all about? >> i have tried it in e past and i tried turkey which incorporating the turkey and i ied somethinlittle bit different. we do have that option in our restaurant also. soy, vinegar, chili, and a little pineapple juice. >> i bbq it and there we chop up and put it in a second marinade with lemon juice and soy sauce. it worked. something different and i think the turkey is a little bit different andpl ing brussels sprouts just roasting it and throwing a little bacon in there to have a little bit of cloudiness to win. >> ellenany sides that you are seeing out there that are

new and exciting are different from the traditional brusutls spgreen beans? >>i think because those things are seasonal people will continue to use them. instead the marshmallow hot honey or mixing up reserve lemon and adding a lot more acid and topping them with different things rather than that sweet anbuttery situation. green beans with that chinese condiment chilly chris is really good. adding different flavor profiles ha >>are the biggest mistakes that people make? >> for suwith the turkey there's always a over cooking of the breast. you want to remove their breasts. the legs take longer. take the breasts often is the legs and everything is the right temperature. and the other thing is timing.

i have one oven. i would love nce we don't have that the hardest part is heating up the sides pick >> thank you both so much for coming in. i can't it to hear what you do for thanksgiving. >> that will do it r us as always find more of our coverage at kqed.org/news. thank you for joining us.

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