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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, after two weeks of public hearings, irat happens next in the impeachment inquagainst the president? then, the white house weighs what to do on vaping. will they reach a deal, or will it go up in smoke? plus. >it's a beautiful day in this neighborhood, a beautiful day for a neighbor. >> will you be mine? >> woodruff: ...tom hanks puts on the iconic red cardigan and leeps into the neighborhood of thndary mr. rogers. >> look what he created for a half hour at a time: extraordinarily wise, smart things that made children biderstand the world a little better. if you only get a half hour out re that, you know, once a day, i
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think yotill a half hour ahead of the curve. >> woodruff: and it's friday... rk shields and david brooks are here to analyze the week of impeachment hearings, anthe race for the democratic presidential nominatn. all that and me on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us.
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thank you. >> woodruff: president trump says he does not expect to be impeached, but would welcome a trial in the u.s. senate. he said today that democrats got nothing from two weeks of congressional hearings. in fact, multiple witnesse testified that he used military aid to try to pressure ukraine for personal, political gain. bet the president had his own, nkake at the white house. >> i te had a tremendous week with the hoax, you know, the great hoax, they call it the nd that's really worked out incredibly well. and weave tremendous support cl>> woodruff: we'll take er look at where all of this stands, and where it is headed, aftethe news summary.
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there's word that a former ob.i. lawyer allegedly altered a documesurveillance of a trump campaign adviser, in 2016. "the washingtopost", cnn and others report the justice department's inspector general made that finding. he also found the surveillance still had a proper legal basis. in iraq, four more protesters were killed in a second day of fighting near key bridge in baghdad. in all, 14 have died in the unrest in the last 2hours. today, security forces opened fire again as protesters burned tires. at least 90 were wounded from live fire and tear gas rounds. iran says it has stifled protests over gas prices, and arrested some 100 protest that news came as people in tehran walked past bout banks and gas stations today.
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and, internet access was slowlre beinored. omanwhile, u.s. secretary of state mikeo asked iranians u.s. can expose thes, so the vast crowds in algeria marked a 40th straight friday of mass protests today, demanding honest electis. many thousands flooded the and holding banner, waving flags they rejected xt month's planned presidential vote, o ir fears thatwill be rigged. >> ( translated ): it's a peaceful protest, we came t to say no to the electoral mockery they want to impose to us. people are right, we will keep protesting and we refuse the election with the same regime which destroyed algeria >> woodruff: demonstrators forced out longtime president abdel-aziz bouteflika, last april. since then, they have called for the rest of the gime to quit. edns of thousands of protesters also raln lebanon, marking the country's independence day.
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politicians attended a brief military parade. but the protesters held their own event, carrying flag singing the national anthem and demanding the ruling elite step aside. chinese president xi jinping injected a bit of optimism today into trade talks with the u.s. he told a business forum in beijing that china does want an agreement. but he also said his government would fight back, if need be. later, president trump said an accord is "potentially very close," but it would have to favor the u.s. the president also confirmed today that vice president mike pence will be his running mate again, next year. fox news interview, mr. trump referred to the vice pesident as "my friend," and said he has donenomenal job. a major dor to the president's 2017 inaugural will face new federal charges, iluding obstruction and failing to register as a foreign ag st. court pape the case
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against imaad zuberi is being filed in new york. he was already accused tax evasion, in loiolations and after two weeks of hearings, what happens next in the impeachment inquiry into president trump? the white house weighs what do on vaping. in smoke?tick, or will it up mark shields and david brooks poeak down all the week's tical news, and much more. >> woodruff: it has been a week unlike any other in recent year multiple days of impeachment testimony, from enministration officials past and pr all in public. but where does the impeachment representatives go from here?
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with me is our own lisa desjardins, to walk us through what the next few weeks might bring. so, lisa, it has been a long week, a lot of hearings. be hearings ended yesterday afternoo today president trump weighed in. >> that's right. let's start there. the president clearly was paying very close attention to these hearings, he had a lot to say this morning on "fox & friends." he reported his message about vice president mike pence. he also spoke about impeachment. let's listen. >> don't forget, there was no due process, you can't have lawyers, we couldn't have witoesses. we wanall the whistleblower. but you know who i want as the first witness? beusfrankly i want to >> what he's sayin is he doesn't think the house intelligence hearings were fair, he didn't have representation, his lawyers weren't there. he says he wants a trial. if the house votes to impeach, he will have nce. we know from senate leader mitch
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mcconnell's office that he does plan to go forward with a trial d there are n enough votes to prevent that in the snavment even though republicans nhave a majority, they dot have enough who feel a trial should be blocked. >> woodruff: so procedurei would re it if the house votes for peachtd. >> that's correct. >> woodruff: lisa, now that these public hearings seem to be behind us, what are the next steps? >> well, congress is gone for thanksgiving, so we do not expect any public hearings, as you're saying, for next week. it is possib there could be closed-door depositions. there are a few characters involved here that congress has clt be able to speak to ing rudy giuliani's associate lev parnas. but, you know, it may be that congress has no actiity really in front to have the scenes, but there is something that is going toappen next week on monday. a federal judge has said that they plan to rule on a case involving the white house former counsel don asghan. now hea critical witness in the muelle mwrpts case testifyio what he said the president asked
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essentially in his view for so this is important inred. ifpeachment because don mccann would tey to obstruction of justice if democrats want the pursue that, if a court ru hles th must testify, that could change time license, could change calculations and could it's something we'll watch closely next wk. oodruf broadened impeachment inquiry focus. >> right. >> woodruff: so, lisa, chat about thmittee that's been last few weeks, the intelligence committee, they still have work to do. congress is town but staff is working day and night. they are producing a report r thort will be the evidence as they see it against this president, and it will be a critical piece of information. at the same time, we should expect house republicans on the intelligence committee led by jijordan and devin nunes to put together their own report, facts and findinatgs. going to happen after
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that, those reports will be presented to the public, then the house judiciary committee will take up the issues and, judy, when the house judiciary commhetee meets, they have right to call public hearings. i'm told we should expect some but nonef the same witnesses as we saw this weekrom the house intelligence committee. they say we foseel witness testimony stands on its own. instead, there is some questioning of whether we could see mural-related witnesses, if the judiciary commithae determinesthat is also a case they want to make for articles of impeachment. >> woodruff: back to the point you were making a moment ag >> woodruff: everys curious to know because we are coming up on the holidays, lvember, december, what does the calendarook like as far as we know. >> i love a good calendar graphic. our producer helped put this together, too. first of all, they're putting the report together now. we expect the report to go to the judiciary committee that first week of december. then we expect those hearings, very likely the first two weeks of december and, listen, jy,
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that's not just public hearings, that's also an important event which ll be the marking up of the articles of impeachment themselves, at will be line for line edit, potential amending of those articles. after that happens in house judiciary, if it votes to forward the articles of impeachment to the floor, this is the time le likely, that week of december 20th right there. so it could happen very quickly. democrats are on track now to have that fll house for a vote by the end of december. judy, also the same week, though, that's when the government funding bill runs out, there's a democtic debate we are hosting that week. it's a high profilweek, a lot is crammed in there, but this is the likely schedule right now. our viers should be ready for a busy and intense december. >> not your usual christmas and new year's. >> not at all. >> woodruff: lisa desjardins, incredible week. thank u so much for all your work. >> you're welcome.
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my honor. >> woodruff: there's growing pressure on president trump to take real action when it comes to vaping, e-cigarettes and especially its use among kids. but there's also a big debate about what should, or should not, be done. that played out in real time at the white house in front of the asliamram tes usit comes as more people have been sickened by vaping-associated injuries nearly 2,300 people have lung injuries and vaping's been sociated with at least 4 deaths. >> brangham: today's white house meeting reflected the wider national debate around vaping-- whether the federal government should ban flavored e- cigarettes, or set age limits. >> we've got nearly six million h emgencicted to nicotine.
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y. >> brangham: for hisart, the president didn't commit to ecific ban, or plan or age limit. but at times he seemed open to the argument that any kind of ban on flavored cartridges would not be effective. >> you watch prohibition. if you don't give it to them, it going to come here illegally. instead of reynolds or juul or some company, they could be selling something on a street corner that could be horrible. >> brangham: the president first pledged federal action back in vptember, when people started getting ilaping. >> we can't allow people to get sick. and wcan't have our kids be so affected. >> brangham: but since then no significant action has been taken. several published reports said pressures from lobbyists, vaping supporters and political advisers stopped the president from issuing any bans. many parents and public health
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officials worry at too many young people are still vaping. a recent survey found more than cigarettes during a single month earlier this year, including more than one out of four high schoolers, and 11% of miolle- schotudents. too many young adults have ended up in the hospital, including a 16-year-old male who received a double lung transplant in detroit last week. >> this young patient wod have died. there is no doubt about it. >> brangham: researchers are llill trying to understand the causes for thosesses. the injuries are believed to be largely caused by non-commercial and black market vaping products with chemical agents like t.h.c. or vitamin e acetate. those appear to be causing lung in s own.theibu iafoca nrn biggest e-cigarette manufacturer, juul labs. and several others are passing their own bans of flavored e- cigarettes.
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matthew myers is the president of the campaign for tobacco-free kids and he was in today's white house meeting. welcome back to the "newshour". >> thanks for having me. help me understand, what did you make ao have the d that happened in the white house? you sat there opposite the president. do you think after seeing this conversation unfold that we are any closer to where you would like us to be? >> my hope is we are. one of the things i thought was remarkable today all of the major physician groups in the ed states as wes public health groups were in the room and all said the same thing, if e-cigarette epidemic, we have to get rid of the flavors that fueled it. >> repter: that is issue number one to you, hands down? >> anything else we do won't flavors.ess we get rid of the e-cigarettes use the flavorede product. 70% of them say they use the pruct precisely because t have the flavors. if you have something out there the kids will want to get,
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ey'll find a way to dt. >> reporter: what do you make of the president's argument. he brought up something many people bring up that if you ban loflve t he flars, they want the sweet and the colorful, that they will get them on the black market and then you've lost e ability to regulate and know what they're purchasing. >> i think there's a couple of responses to it. first of all, the presence of the flavors is what has led a million and a half new kids to become addicted each year. if we do nothing else but sto that on ramp, we will do something very important. crystal clear that the flavors are getting the kids? >> it is absolutely cristing clear that the flavors attrt kids and the high level of nicotine in them that are addicting the kids. it's the one-two punch. if you get rid of the flavors, kids will not try the products. the second thing that's important to understand is the wtobacco industry s argues anytime we aant to thing that counterfeit problems will
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undermine. the public health and government response is not to not pass good laws,etho enforce the laws effectively. i have no doubt that if we eliminate flavors, we will see millions fewer kids become many ofd and we'll se the kids who are currently addicted try to quit. >> reporter: help me understand where ki today are getting these. eyat are they smoking, where are etting them, how is that happening? >> there are a lot of myths out there. a good number of kids do get them through social sources, older kids who buy tm f them. but what we also found is a majority -- a large percentage of kids whuse juul, the number one brand, get them fr vto llint e-cigarettes. >> that's exactly right. allowed in the stores but they are and they have a track record selling kids that'srse than other stores. aveto solve the problem, we h to make sure the rules apply to
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all stores. >> reporter: the president in september came out and said, in response to those illnesses, which i get federal authorityis are to still figure out what's driving the illnesses, but the president said let's bav the flavoreape products. he said a lot of things you wanted him to say, yet here we are several months later, we haven't seen that. acti why do you think -- what's the hiccup? unfortunately, the e-cigarette industry which has avoid responsibllationan to have vigorouslyo proposed his they have claimed he will lose votes on it, they have claimed that it will impact sult tobacco users. the facts don'port that. 77% of all amerians, including conservative republicans, support banninflavors in order to reduce the number of kids in our country who become addicted. the otr critical fact is the huge rise in use of flavors h
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not been accompanied in adult use. there are fewer adults using the e-cigarettes than four years ago. if we get rid of the flavors, we can stop the onramp of kids and address how to help ad smokers quit. >> porter: because that is the argument the industry and p.m. suppoters of vaping argue which is this is a product principally that is supposed to help people who are smoking >>bacco cigarettes get off that. nfortunately, the rhetoric doesn't match the facts. the entire growth in the market er the last four years is kids, 100% increase. we veeen high school use double in the last two years. middle sool use tripled in the last two years. we have a million ki who are in isuses realg ly athoj crisisd unless we stop that number fro growing, we're going to pay for this for decades toome. >> reporter: matthew myers of the campaign for tobacco-free kids. thank you very much.
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>> thanks for having me. coming uon t newshour: us, omedy writerst c give their brief but spectacular take on crafting the perfect joke. and it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood-- tom hks steps rogers. historic impeachment hearings and the democratic debate. here to make sense of yet another historic week in american politics, are shields as.nd bro that's syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks hello to both of you. let's go stight to impeachment, mark. five days of hearings now, three more this week. a lot of drama, a lot of attention on television. what did youake away from it? fr i took away from it, judy, a
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quot oscar handline, who was the great american historian pulitzer prize winning for his book, he said i sought to write a book on american immigrants, history of american immigrants and i realized immigrants are american istory, and that point was driven home so forcefully. it was ambassador yovanovitch, colonel vindman, it was fiona hill, and these are people who are americans by choice, not by accident like you and i, and he and she and everyone of them was reassuring. d have to say, every cheap political at's run against nameless, faceless bureaucrats, these are people with names and faces and who put theerir cas, their comfort, their peace of mind, their futures, in many cases, on the line to speak to power, and i wahumbled to wtch them and listen to them.
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druff: david? i agree with that. a good couple of weeks watching insiders, people trained by the government to do things a certain way. there's a right way and a wrong way and most people have been trained by the foreign service toderstood quickly this was the wrong wao about things and is unethical. i think donald trump and rudyin giuliani, i this never occurred to them this was unethical. what strikes me is everyone was in the loop. this was not something they tried to hide. this is something they thought was e way politics or foreign policy gets done, there's no division between psonal gain and public serve. so that's i think the big takeaway for me is when this first started you would have thought it was just trump ralmbling on a phone c because yb had the transcript, and it's clear evy knew, some reacted with shock and horror and some said this is just the crazy stuff we have to deal with working for donald trump. oodruff: is the case made stronger that the democrats say is a slam dunk thate th
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president tried to get the president of criewrk to investigate -- of you can to investigate yoabd and his son, in other words, to do the president a political favor. >> yes, i think ambassador sondland was the least impressive but st damang of all the witnesses. he was going to say in the loop wereectary pompeo, chief of staff mulvaney, bassadorbo his convictions, sameoulyrage of backbone as fiona hill who worked for him, a $2 million book sale advance by his silence. i would be interested to see if he's going to come forward and speak to power. tw woodruff: speak to today. hiter back is what i read today and i was reassured by that. but i really think that the case is strong. what i have underestimated and
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david is right is the fear that donald trp exercises over republicans. i mean, people talked about lyndon johnson being afraid of some -- a fearsome political leader. he doesn't approach. he sparks fear in the hearts of herepublicans up and down line and that to me has been e opening in its dimensions. >> woodruffis the case stronger, david, or does it stttronger but not politically stronger. wehave now a bunch of lls that show that public support for impeachment has gone down slightly over the last couple of weeks. it's now about 45-45, onis na is evenly divided. in swing states, impeachment is less polar. don't have a lot of data, a but in wisconsin only 40% support impeachment, roughly 53 there's itical poll where
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independent voters and independents don't like it at all anby 61 to 23, they think it's more of interest to media i think evy knows he's guilty, they just don't think e is is the issue that affects my ld why are they talking abouf.all this st >> woodruff: mark, the republicans keep saying, as weer heard yeay, it's a show trial, the democrats have been out to get president trump from day oneis. hat the argument? >> it's an argument but not a persuasive argument. it is a polil calculus. it didn't make sense. there was no question. after the mueller report was botched, however you want to put it, wherey the attorneral barr stepped on it, donald trump feltiberated enough make that phone call, and the reality is that there wasn a democrat who was not under indictnt or detox thinking of ter of
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impeachment at that point and it wasn't until the news of that came out and it became so obt ous. i mean, o act was an action itself, but the democrats or anybody else in congress or in america would haveto answ for. i mean, is tshi modus operandi idceptable for an american prt to do this, extort, basically, another country that is dependent ups to get information, unflattering, unhelpful, damaging information on the president's polilti opponent, and that that is, what, okay? acceptable? lookhe other way? i mean, you've got a lot to answer for. >> and i think that's a strong argument. they had to do this to uphold the standards of our count. can't think of any president that's done anything as bad s this and didn't get impeached. that's basically true. i think democrats have t acknowle nwir,d odgt'ate os i
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them waalked into this sort of knowing that. >> woodruff: what do you mean not a political winner? >> ihink if you're losing independents and swing states and it's very likely now that senate candidates will be sitting in washngton through the trial, elizabeth warren, rnie sanders and the rest, and this is the disadvantage. my conversatns with trump supporters in red states, nobody talks about it, it's just not at subject, an if you ask everybody says yeah, he d it, shouldn't have done it and it was a stupid thing to do, but we're in the contextnga political and cultural war in this country and i have a guy who hits back at the people who hatee so i t abandon him. they say see it as part of the longer political battle in the country and won't abandon him. yo>> woodruffmentioned the democratic presidential candidates this morning, they debated is week, a lot of them
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on the stage. what did you take away, a morable momen what changes in that contest? >> i don't know what changes, judy. memorable moments? andrew yangshowing he missed beto o'rourke. i mean, that was sort of a human statement i thought. best line of the night was amy klobuchar, by far, asked questions that she had suggested that pete buttigieg if he was a woman with his credentials would not have been a plausible candidate and she says doesn't think a woman can beat donald trump, nancy pelosi does it every day. and i thought -- i didn't think it was a game changer. ndthought joe biden had an uneven night obviously, his stumble claiming to have the only african-arican woman ever elected to the senate, carol as
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the endorser, when kamala harris was the second african-amo ican womaobviously has not endorsed joe biden was a little bit of a stumble. >> i thought they all did well. i thought donald trump did well. they all have the same politicians tone when speaking. sometimes you hear the content, but sometimes there's a tone of urgency, and they all speak in the same tone. it's not the way people talk when over a dinner table ani was, like, someone talk like a human being. and occasion by pete buttigieg or andrew yang would tell a joke about what would happen if was the same tone of politician talk. i think butgieg walks out the advancer because he is rising and nobody touched him and he solidified his case as the outsider, as the person without washington experience and who is more moderate. elizabeth warren has policy i don't particular like but i
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think it's popular among democratic primary voters, so i thought she did well. if anybody was. was the lo >> i do think buttigieg, it was interesting why the dog didn't bark in the house eis why democrat leaders -- they've not seen the pollsthat show pete buttigieg surged in new hampshire and was in the lead in iowa. >> woodruff: why dip they didn't go after him? >> why they didn't go after him. i think there's a certain reluctance, the litany of sins of the democraticarty is to be sexist, misogynisting, homophobic, xephobic, whatever, and i think they walk gently around the fact he's the first openly gay candidate and reluctant to go , ter him. interesting numbavid cited a number, when asked would you f corome tablgay commander-in-chief, openly gay commander-in-chief, 50% say they would, a little over a third
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said they wouldn't. eiighb wthe es t bioou yn doe, % think they neighbor would be comfortable with an openly gay president and half wouldn't. i'm magnanius, open-minded -- >> need to move to the neighborhood then. >> that's right. draughter) >> wf: one last thing, david, the president this week, a lot of attention around he pardoned or reducedthe sentence of three men accused ofwar crimes, and what do we take away about this? i guess the navy is still considering one of his moves. >> yeah, one, don't go against your own mitary, which he seems to have done. second, i've heard this, and joe crystal and oers have been making this point, these are people who served in combat in afghanistan and iraq that trump said, well, these people in combat, they're damaged. and a lot of people come back, and, so, they should be forgiven. a lot of people come back from
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combat say don't treat us as damaged goodse. weransitioning but we're not damaged goods. we're strengthened and been through challenges but no damaged and when we fought we tried to uphold the honor of the united states while fighting. >> judying the cleavage, the division on this issue is between those who haveeen in uniform and those who have not. the most fierce foes of rationalizing antiaccep forture by americans were jo mccain, joe powell, pete peteen, prisoner of war and ambassador of vietnam, they understood that what separatesm us fe other side, from our enemies, is who we are and what we stand for and believe, and, to me, that's the test, donald trump doesn't understand it, we failed it. >> mark shields, david brooks,
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thank you. >> woodruff: people in hong kong will vote on sunday for members of the district council. ly focusesy that usu on local community issues.but bt election since the beginning of protests that have gripped hong kong since may. this vote is seen as a barometer of how much support the demonstrators have. n wshour special correspondent divya gopalan isng kong and has the story. >> over the past week, dramatickic clashes between police and protesters took place at hong kong's university. nearly 1,000 peope barricaded themselves in theon hg kong polytechnic university campus. stones catapulted and bows and arrows pitted agait tear garks udnts andolees.water cannons and
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fit he hrt d ilwhe city, an almost daily routine unfolds. mass protesters face off against police on streets flanked by luxury shops, banks and international companies just around the cner from the stock exchange. >> despite the escalation in violence, there is still widespread support for the youn protesters. more -- for more than a week office workers swarm the financial center, bringing the city to astandstill. the popular protest sloga chanted and say they want to high light what is percived as police brutality and excessive fohee. >> part ofoutrage on the streets is due to the fact that beijing is seen asaving backtracked from its promises of allowing the hong kong to directly choose leaders. cirious sectors of industry, legislative coand interest groups both for the chief
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by the communisy. been endorsed but this weekend, gehong kon will be able to express discontent at the ballot box at the district council election. local district cannelsers usually deal with counity issues and don't wield much power, but they could impact the makeup of hong kong's government. as cannelsers hold nearly 10% of the seats in the committee that will eventuay choose the rity's leader. mis yea, it's seen as the barometer of howch the wider population supports the protest movement. for the first time ever, each of the 400-plus seats is hotly contested. a record number of people have registered to vote, and there has been a surge in candidates to 20% of them ruing for the first time with most of the candidates representing the interests of the protesters or the hong kong government. >> i wish to represent both the citizens and the protesters in the government. >> it's been a long road for
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22-year-old ho t he has been joining promo deacy protests since he was 17 and has taken part in this movement. but in september, h corrected confrontation by police. they have yet to charge him. his father kicked hit out of his home for his activism and feels veat the street protests haven't been able to achnough, so he's taking a different approach by working within the system. >> i want to try to broaden the battle line for the resistance. i believe that if there's only resistance on the streets, we won't be able to win this fight. so i believe that only by going through theistrict council can we defeat this government. i love hong kong, i don't wa it to be like the rest of china, a place with no democracy, no freedom, no cntured no human rights. >> for u.k. edasucator j chong, working within the system means understanding andat accepting ong kong is part of china. the 28-year-old aspiring politician has joined bun of
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hong kong's most esablished pro beijing party and is running in e election because of some of the unrest. >> some of the youngsters ansunderstood what freedom and democracy if they're really tracing for ag stemocratic city, they go and vote. destroying athing opportunity help at all. destroying the facilities,gain the government, in this violent way is not the way.or >> repr: the district council elections is the only time hong kong people will get to directly choose who represents them. it is one man, one vote, which is why it is beingen g so much sworn's this year. but not evyone is free to run for office. one candidate is barreom running, democracy activist joshua wong. the healthcare hong kong election officials say it's because he believes indecopendee d be in hong kong's future which goes against the city's constitution. but activists say even thisas
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electioneen influenced by china's communist government. >> with my infoation efficacy, beijing helped to ignore my words and to restrict me to enter the institution. >> reporter: 23-year-old joshua wong started pushing forr democratic reform in the city as a teenager spearhding the pro democracy umbrella movement in 2014. he spent time in jail for charges related to the protest and is considered to be one of the first prisoners. wong and teaemofocracy activists have been lobbying the u.s. congress to hold officials in mainland china and hong kong to account for human rights abuses. the bill was passed this week. >> hong kong human rights and democracy acts is the act at was sanctioned who suppress hong kong's human rights
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including government, officials, police frce and also the election officers that imply political censorship and with their abuse of power. ♪ in the land of the free and the home of the ave ♪ >> reporter: thousands of people matched to the u.s. on congress to push the bill through, but in time of confrontation between bay jig d washington with the two sides in the middle of a trade war. both beijing and the hong kong government denunced the u.s. move. regina ip, the former secretary for security of hong kong and a current cabinet member says the ve could backfire, adversely affecting u.s.-hong kong trade and diplomatic relations. >> hong kong may take countermeasures. if they impose sanctions on people in charge, quite unnecessarily, totally
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unwarranted, we might have t take actions. >> reporter: the authorities tried to quell the unrest by using colonial era measures to ban. the high court overturned the ruling saying it was unconstitutional, according to hong kong's basic law. but the chinese government weighted in saying the court's ruling was a atant challenge toaheir authority and tht only they had the rightto decide issues regarding the constitution, so now the courts have reinstated the ban forve days until the hong kong government can appeal the ruling. >> will ever believe that our courts in hkoong ng are independent? chan ove as special regenton in china. she says it's this kind of interference by the chinese government that has angered many in hong kong. >> this movement is not by overthrowing the far or central
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government, it is about reminding the cetral government you promised hong kong people a high degree ofutonomy, and you must stick to these promises. >> reporter: the beijing overnment says it's living up to its commitmeto provide autonomy to hong kong. enwhile selections are as important, the results are not likely to quell the crisis gripng the city. for the "pbs newshour," hong kong. >> woodruff: tonight's brief but ectacular pulls back the curtain of the nbc show "late night with seth meyers." elamber ruffin and jenny h write for the show and perform regularly in the long-running gm"jokes seth can't tell" t. the writers, funny comedians in their own right, give us a sense of what it takes to get a joke on air.mi a er, this segment is part of our ongoing canvas series on
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arts and culture. >> when you hear a joke that you know is the perfect joke, first of all, usually that happens to me when it is someone else's joke. >> i feel like comedy writersra ly even laugh. when a comedy writer hears a joke that good, they all go, "oh, oh you did it. you got it." >> when i rst started writing late night with seth meyers, i was trying very hard to figure out seth's voice and there happened to be an item in the news that was about lesbians and i don't member what it was, but i happen to be a lesbian. i saw that headline and i was like, "here we go!" i think i submitted like ten jokes about that. s then the head writer alex baze in the hallway later and just jokingly i was like, "let me know if you need more lesan jokes." he was like, "we cannot use them." i just hadn't thought about that. seth can't burn lesbians. i pulled amber aside. i said, "hey, whatf we tried to do a segment where we tell jokes that seth can't tell? amber was like, "let's figure
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that out." >>n jokes seth can't tell, seth sets up the joke and then the minority says the punchline. >> focus pictures has released it's trailer for the n movie" harriet," about harriet tubman. >> it tells the unlikely story of a black lady who against odl was the main character in a vie. t'if i talk about slavery, not as big a bummer as it is for white people to hear about it, which is something i've learned each time we do jokes at they go, "oh that's too much of a bummer." you go, "all right, i guess so." >> i had a jokwhere there was me setup about gay weddings. then seth said, "jenny, what's the difference between a straight wedding and a gay and i said, "the reason the parents are crying." which to me is very funny, but i happened to mention it to a friend of mine before that segment aired and they're like, "you can't say that on television. that's too sad."
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there's a lot of conversation about like p.c. culture and wh's too far. we're not trying to court that line of offensiveness, but we're between like... there's things to be said about our respective communities that are hard and true. and we're interested inos exploring through jokes. >> are we saying something new that the audience can hear and then learn and understand in one fell swoop? >> i don't love "can't." wh people talk about their things you can't joke about, but i think it's important to ask what's your intent, we live in america, we have the first amendment, we can say anything. i don't think it's about "can't." what do you want to do with that time and space that you have and does it feel good to you and does it feel gooto the people i can't imagine living in these times waking up every morning seeing the news and then being like, "okay,deime to go be a ist where i have to not talk about it all day." >> some people get up and theyk cannot tout it. >> right. you have to go to work and be polite and keep all your feelings here and we get to have all ouings. >> i'm sorry if that's your life. >> i know. i'm sorry that our
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life is basically, us working on our feelings and then you guys have to hear it. we owe you all a copay for therapy. >> thank you. >> i'm jenny hagle. >> and i'm amber ruffin, and this is our spief but tacular take on ladies of late night. >> woodruff: and you can watch additionalrief b spectacular episodes on our web site, pbs.org/newshour slash brief. >> woodrf: finally , a tic for our souls. fred rogers hosted almost 900 episodes of "mister roge' neighborhood" over 31 seasons on public broadcasting stations. the film "a beautiful day in the neighborhood" opens tonight and eexplores rogers through prism of a friendship he forged with a magazine writer. jeffrey brown talked with the stars of that film, tom hanksma anhew rhys in new york, part of our ongoing arts and
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culture series, canvas. >> ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ >> ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ >> brown: tom hanks has morphed into many characters over his storied film career, but in fred rogers, he says, he met his match" the film,"a beautiful day in the neighborhood"by was directed arielle heller. >> mari, who is ironclad in her discussions abat she's going to do, she said, essentially, "you'll get a wig, you'll get some eyebrows, you'll get a sweater and blue deck shoes. the rest is up to you. >> do you know what this is? it's lloyd! >> brown: his foil is a driven and cynical journalist sent to write a profe of mr. rogersma for esquire gazine, and the film is based on a true encounter in 1998.pl ed by matthew rhys, best known for his role as a russian
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spy in "the americans," tli jour is confounded by the sincere and glacially-paced mister rogers. and as it turns out, so was the welsh actor, rhys. diyou know mister rogers growing up in wales? >> not a jot, nothing. not a whisper. and then i dived into youtube and i thought, "what's going on?" i had no idea. it seemed bizarre to me that this -- i was like, ¡has he footten his lines? is that why he speaks so slowly? what's happening? what's been incredible was having a three year old son, and for him to be the cond what it truly is has been eye- opening and equal part oundbreaking. >> brown: rhys would come to see whatillions had: fred rogers was utterly unique in the history of television. an ordained minister on a mission to reach, teach and help children be themselves. he didn't shy from sus subjects, including divorce,
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ath and racism. and every child felt he was speaking directly to him or her. i askethe two actors about their experience in mister rogers neighborhood. for hanks, as for many of us, one question lingered: was this guy for real?yi >> what is he to sell? well, he wasn't trying to sell anything. he was trying to make little kids feel safe. so for me as an actor it's like, what are my myriad, natural tendencies as a human being that are going to have to be whipped into submission so that i'm not falling into that same brand of cynical presentation. there is a d.n.a. that you sort of have to inject into yourself at the same time that you put on that version of batman's cape and cowl, expt it's a red cardigan and blue deck shoes. the individual scenes betweener the two of us exhausting,
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as physically exhausting and physiologically exhausting as any scenes i've ever played. >> i don't understand theon ques >> well, there's you, fred, and there's the character you pla mr. rogers. each other with differentcircled intentions, but also, but waiting and questioning.cs of and until one either broke or opened up. >> brown: rhys' character, here tlled lloyd vogel, visitshe set to interview fred rogers. but rogers wants only to kw vogel, to understand him and hie strus, especially his anger at a father who abandoned the family long ago and now wants reconciliation and forgiveness. if i was going to show you,
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admit to you what the first day of shooting was, i would point out to out how i'm ti'king too fastnot being as specificto as i neei'm not waiting for an-- i'm not listening, because i'm kind of petrified as to, you know, this is my, these rspective of you on that is completely different. and you kind of came in wiis it was like what they said about rogers, everything's slowed down, because you didn't dictate a tempo, you actually listened. and that in itself dictates e tempo. there's one thing, there's a moment you do with your hand that he did. >> brown: with fred rogers there's another element, becauas the questionwas he acting? who's acting as miogers?d rogers >> absutely. there is a performance that he
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was giving. there was rules that h following that were sed on his philosophy on how to do this and >> brown: so who was the real fred rogers or who was the real mr. rogers?di >> i heard an tape, there was a child psychologist was one of his greatdientors that he ussed everything with. wid they were talking about trying to come u an opera for children.is and ady had this kind of¡ i think what we can do is, the usematic element of the ch here, with a frog, could actual be a bridge to the original theme of the first act.' pause, pause, pause.¡ i think the frog' -- and this is mister rogers -- ¡yes, if the frog could have a worry that he usbrings' -- and these are people talking, these are people
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at work trying to figure out, how to, this is like aee production mng that he's going on and he still put that brand of thought tit. >> i think, to me, what's seemingly the performance element is only to succeed in a greater communication to that audience at which it is aimed. >> brown: fred rogers believed in the power of telesion, right, as a tool for change. a tool for reaching people. television hasn't really worked out that way, a lot of people think.>> ell, he didn't change television as a technology or as an art form, but look what he created for a half hour at a time: extraordinarily wise smart things that made children understand the world a little bit tter. if you only get a half hour out of that, you know, once a day, i think you're still a half hour ahead of the curve. >> brown: what about in the general cultthe, a film like . do you think there is a craving, a need for fred rogers? >> don't you think there's some marketing exec saying, "you know what we got here what we have here is counter- programming.
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>> yes! >> you see what i'm saying? >> i like it. we're going to havguy withis the puppets. >> oh that's good, that's good. >> we'll shoot it in pittsburgh, pennsylvania or whatever. i think it can work if we hit it. if we hit the counter- progmming situation. >> it is like there's an incredible symphony going on at all times. and it's in the pause that sometimes the eatest potency is found. and i th small number of people, for a brief moment, so much so the better >> brown: "mister rogers" neighborhood ended its run on pbs in 2001. frer rogers died two years l at age 74." a beautiful day in the neighborhood" opens today around for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey own in new york. >> woodruff: online,e continue our conversation with tom hanks,
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who explains in detail how he got into character for the role of fred rogers. that's on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. and we'll be back, right here, on monday, with a look at the shrinking birht rate inis italy...whhe era of the big italian family a thing of the past? that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. have a great weekend. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> the william and flora hewlett foundation. for more than 50 years, advancing ideas and supporting institutio tpromote a better rld. at www.hewlett.org.
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