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captioning spons by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. nim judy woodruff. on the newshour t, the origins of the russia inquiry. the department of justice releases its findings on the investigation that became the mueller report. then... >> we are here today becausedo ld j. trump, the 45th president of the united states, abused the power of his office-- the american presidency-- for his personal political benefit. >> woodruff: the evidence is presented. democrats in the u.s. house put forth their arguments for impeaching the president. and, the afghanistan papers. t a classifive of documents is published, revealing the lies and distortions at the heart of america's longest war. plus: ♪ and i'm here to remd you
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stion from viewers like yo thank you. >> woodruff: a long-awaited report into the origins of the russia probe fou no evidence of a political conspiracy justice department's inspector general criticized the f.b.i.'s handling of a wiretapic apion used in the early stages of the investigation. our william brangham has been digging through the 476-page report, and he joins me now. william, you have the report right next to you. tell us the hea idlns opector general found no political bias in the origins of the russia report. as we have beorreen ftiporng constantlyaid this was a wch t
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, f.b.i. ginneup this investigation illegally to put him in jeopardy, and this reort quite clearly says that's not true. one key quote from the report says, quote, we did not find documentary or testimonial t evidenat political bias or improper motivation influenced the decions to open four individual investigations. so they're saying, also, that there was no role played by the infamous steele dossier in the f.onb.ga, ,conhis esnvtiti to anthe president's assertions, did not spy on his campaign. let's listen today the f.b.i. director christopher rea came out after the report was released. or i think it's int that the inspector general found that, in this partilar in, anceinthe tih appropriate predication and authorization. >> the inspector general did
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tafinces where employees either failed to follow our polies, neglected to exercise appropriate diligence or, in some other way, fell short of the standard of conduct and her forms that we and that director expect of all of o iur asmployees. >> reporter: s so while you can read part of this report as a rebuttal of the prsident's theories all along, it certainly seemed like his mind was not changed by this.al the presiden after the report came out today had this to say about the invti they lied to the courts and they did l sorts ofhings to have it go their waya, and this something that we can never allow to happen again. the repo actually, and especially when you look into it in the details of the report are far worse than anything i would oag iha.einmedrthrowf government, this was an attempted overthrow, and a lot of people were in on it, and
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they got caught. >> woodruff: so, william, the president is saying that there's evidence here of bad behavior by te f.bat what's in this reporth ght.haist's ri i an, the president is right in that regard. the other headlge really com out of this report is that the inspector general found a lot of what he argues were serious mistakes made by f.b.i. agents after the investigation was launched, specifically lookingt they used against one trump the inspector general said there were omissions and errors and embellishments in these documents. if you want to open a foreignte igence investigation into a person, you have to present this court with a warrant, and the inspector general says at, in the f.b.i.'s case, the warrant that they put forevward leftence out that didn't bolster their case. they looked over contradictory
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information and did not provide striewl scrupulously factual warrantsr this is anotote from the reportay tod spefically about this criticism, quote, that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate hand-pickedeams on one of the most sensitive f.b.i. investigations raised significant questions regarding the f.b.i.'s chain of commands,a ment and supervision of the f.i.s.a. process. in fact, today in this report, the inspector general announced that the f.b.i. with will now be conducting an audit of how theye o these f.i.s.a. warrants going forward. >> so this report is from e inspector general at the departmentju ostic the man who heads the department of justice, the attorney general, william barr, put out a statement that was critical of this which is interesting.. 's a very, very divergent reaction going on here.e as youember, attorney general barr long said he thought spying did occur against
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the trump campaign. he has been publicly suspicious of the origins of the russia probe. he said today, the inspector general's report ma clear the f.b.i. launched an intrusive voftion a u.s. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify th stken. it is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence producey he investigation was consistently exultory. again, this is just a very striking reaction. this is the attorney generalt taking dirm at his own inspector general and sayin that, in some sense, his findings documented in this huge report are not to be believed. >> wdruff: in so doi, he's completely in alliance with the president's view on this. >> eufctly. >> woo finally, william, we know this is not the end of outhis, athere art.e stillv >> yes. wednesday, e inspector general horowitz, who wrote this report, he will be testifying
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wbefore the senadnesday. there is also a second broader investigation going on. attorney general william barr tasked connecticut assistance u.s. attorney john durham to lead wider investigation, one that's nmeeowo akico in the origins ofe th russia investigation, how that went forward and what role foreign countries might have played in that. so durha is undertaking this much broader investigation, the president seems to be bank oo lo what durham will find and, in fact, durham made the striking statement today where he said this --ased on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is l ongoint month, we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the reports' conclusions as to predication d how e f.b.i. case was opened. again, it's just a very striking pot where a u.s. attorney who theoretically is underneath the inspector general seems to be openly criticizing the inspector
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general. haeyerita >>f:dr wyo sufnt,o vu eu e have tthhis -- the other prosecutor, in effect, king his own reactio as well as the president. william brangham, thank youery much. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: and now, for more on the inspector generas report, i'm joined by john carlin. he served as assistant attorney general for the justice department's national security division from 2014-2016, and hea also robert mueller's chief of staff when mueller was director of the f.b.i. and john carlin joins me fromph nix, arizona. so, john, i just want to say at mentioned in this 400-plus page report in two ftnotes. we've looked at them both. they're tangential references, so we're not going to go into that detail. i do want to get, though, to the meat of this. what is your principal takeaway from it? >> well, judy, after two yea, a million documents, over, what,
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50, 70 interviews by an independent inspector general, you have a conclusion that the lowed. appropriately fo its procedures inp ogssenianvin. they followed the rules of the justice department and the f.b.i., and because they followed those rules, we had ang inveion that led to the unpacking and discovery of an unprecedented russian intelligence conspacy which costs tens of millions of dollars, included computer hacking, leaked documents, exploitation of social media a campaign has led to suessf indtmen,n s30ome cases coictions of individuals for criminal misconduct. >> woodruff: but you also had, as. >william brangham just laid out, descripti of erors made along the way by individuals in the f.b.i. and others who we working on this investigation.
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t ns hao,htriit'dr, ganst, to distinguish what the inspector general found was that thinvestigation its f,brd russia investigation, s appropriately opened under f.b.i. and department of justice procedures. afteit was opened, the inspector general details mistakes that were made in the application process regarding the investigatif individuals, part of that broader investigation, and that those mistakes linked to the obtaining one application that was then renewed for a wiretap, and that's regarding carter dege. we shoulinitely, and i think the f.b.i. director christopher re struck exactly the represent note in saying that any type of mistake or misconduct in obtaining a wiretap under the foreign cointelligence surveillancurt is serious, it should be looked that does not occur again.s
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it doesn't change the fundamental finding,thhough, that occurred after this investigation was launched and opened. >> woodruff: john carlin, how do you account for the reaction of the attorney general who clearly has problems with the thrust of this report? >>uook, it's -- he, of rse, is entitled to his own opinion, under which the then assistantes director of the counterintelligence division bill prestep was operating when he opened the iestigation. in some respects, good thing it wasn't, at least the way'm interpreting their remarks, because if we had attorney general's barr's opinion instead of the rules and procedures of the f.b.i., it seems like we would have never found out and held accountable numerous russian agents for their atmpts to interfere in the 2016 campaign. i hope he applies a different standard whe twe're lookio determine foreign interference our 2020 electio and it sends an unfortunate message to the men andof wome
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the f.b.i. and the department of justice, thousds of career agents and prosecutors who, day to day, are dedicated to protecting us from foreign threats against our nation that their leader, the top official of the justice department, in no way recognizes what they did right. >> woodruff: john carlin, former justice department official, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: our oth big story tonight: impeachment. the house judiciary committee met all day, hearing the evidence-- and the arguments for and against putting president trump on trial. nick schifrin begins our coverage. >> reporter: tod, democrats summed up their case for impeachment and sharpened their attacks on president trump. >> president trump's persistent and continuing effort to coerce a foreign country to help him
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cheat to win an election is a clear a clear and present danger to our free and fair elections and to our national security. >> repter: republicans called e hearing a sham... >> the lawyer is badgering the witness, and we have to have decorum in here. >> reporter: ...and called the democrats' case an unfair rushba to judgmend on secondhand information. >> the impeachment inquiry record is riddled th hearsay,es ptions and speculation. to paraphrase professor turley from las record is heavy on presump and empttiy on ponroof. >> reporter: ts was democrats' main attempt to narrate their story before suboftting articles mpeachment. democrats argue president trump withheld military aid and a white house meeting with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, so zelensky would announce investigations into democratic presidential candate joe biden, and the 2016 election. the first article of impeachment is expecteto accuse president trump of abuse of power, as argued by judiciary committee
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democratic counsel barry berke. >> he put his polical re- election interest over the nation's national security and the integrity of its elections.e id it intentionally. he didt corruptly. he abused his wers in the ways that the founders feared the most. >> reporter: democrats are alsot expectaccuse president trump of obstruction, as described by intelligence ,mmittee democratic couns daniel goldman. aiesident trump launched an unprecedented ca of obstruction of congress, ordering executive branch agencies and government officials to defy subpoenas for documents and testimony. >> reporter: republicans argued the demoats had failed to prove their case. republican counsel stephen castor: > the inquiry has returned no direct evidence that president trump withheld a meeting or security assistance in order to essure president zelensky to investigate former v.p. biden.
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>> reporter: republicans also pointed out that, despite aai delay, ukr did receive the military aid it wanted, and didn't feel pressure, including on his july 25 phone call with president trump. 'vand vethere arloe t ofeople in russia, in the west and in ukraine who would like to influence me. >>resident zelensky never vocalized any discomfort or osupre co rary to democrat allegations, president trump not asking for a favor that would help his reelection. he was asking for assistance in helping our country move forward from the divisivenesof the ssia collusion investigation. >> reporter: the judiciary fulle val a parsan-anin are going to try to overturn the results of an election with unelected people giving testimony? >> if the president puts himself herebent b cas theryoula v, io responsibility, and breaks his
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oath to american people. >> reporter: and both sides took aim at each others' counsels. republican jim jordan criticized the house intelligence democrats' final report for including phone call records.dm >> mr. g, did the democrats publish phone records of the president's attorney? >> mr. giuliani, yes. >> did the democraon publish the hecordess?ofbes em t mofr >> yes. d the democrats publish phone records of a member of they published the phone records of the president'sss persona?lrg lawyer, the phone records of a member of the press, and thee phcords of the chairman of the intelligence committee's political opnent, representative nun. >> reporter: and after berry berke testified, he became the democratic questioner. >> you made a big int, sir, in your presentation that on that call president trump did not gou her and tell president zelensky that he wanted the investigation announced toelp his 2020 election. >> yeah, he definitely did not talk about 2020. >> mr. goldman, would you agree
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that if president trump was acting corruptly, wrongfully, abusing his power, it's unlikely he was going to confes zelensky that he was going to ask fostinthiospigecve?nat >> you almost never have someonc engaging in duct who would explicitly say in this case, president zelensky, "i'm going to bribe you, i am going to extort you." that's not the way on friday, white hounsellawyers. fusing to appear that warned,"r adreopting articles of impeachment would be a recklessw abuse of by house democrats, and would constitute e most unjust, highly partisan, and unconstitutional attempt at impeachment in our nation's history." the republicans call democrats "obsessed." the democrats call the evidence "overwhelming."pa
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and split alony lines, the impeaching a president for the fourth time in history. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick hifrin. >> woodruff: our team is reportinfrom both ends of pennsylvania avenue. lisa desjardins joins us from capitol hillwhere she spent most of today inside the hearing room. and yamiche alcindor is at the white house. hello to both of you. lisa, to you first, what was it that, would you say, each sie was trying to do today? and as you talked to members, did they tell you they thi'r th changing minds? >> well, democrats, i think, as nick reported ll, wertrying to lay out a substantive case that the president abused his power and was corrupt. republicans did two things, they actually did answer that substance to some degr mor than we've seen in hearings before, but, judy, they also were trying to point at what ey saw was other wrongdoing, other subjects, not just the president, but the ll, for example, hunter biden and they
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repeatedly raised point of hearing was not on stable the ground is s anthimwapeacthhme ensmt heare seen so far. i askede democratic member what they thought of that. they said we don't knw, we weeou reasn' >> woodruff: lisa, as we heard nick report, the white house decided not to put its side of the story forward, they didn'te provlawyer or anybody to make a defense for the president. how are they recting to today pud hando -hohow to thee republicans feel? they made their case. >> well, the presidentt the white house spoke about the impeachment hearing. he said he watched a bit ofbu thissaid it was basically a disgrace and a hoax. that said, republicans really outlined a new defense of the president today. they went after ambassador
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gordon sondland, the e.u eean in ambassador, they said he was seen as intelligence risk, as problematic and peoplwer wondering why he was inso involved in ukraine. mocrats will say ambassador sondland was acting at the diction of the president. i spoke to an attorney who said nt didn't want to combout republicans going after gordon sondland specifically, but he said in hi testimony gordon sondland said he thought h president was asking him to go to pressure ukraine to get annd investation into joe biden in exchange for the military aid. also republicans were going after dy giuliani and trying to scapegoat him in some ways. they are saying the is evidence that the president's personal attorney was not acting in line tith wh president wanted him to do, but over the weekend president trump said he was ware of rudy giuliani being in ukraine and he was collecting information that mighp him. the president also said rudy giuliani might be coming out with some sort of reporthat might be filed to congress or
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the attorney general. trying to in somys to throw people under the bus or scapegoathem as democrats would say, both republicans are coming up short on that end. >> woodruff: lisa, bk to you. where do things go from here after today's long hearing? >> buckle up, judy. it's going to move very quickly. chairman nadler said over the weekend that he does think they could have articles of impeachment ready for the d committee scuss this week. so that means probably in the next three days, maybe four days. they have not decided exactly what the articles will be yet. we know ey will likely include abuse of power and some form of obstruction. what's interesting in the past few minutes, judt d letter rejecting witnessro requestsrepublicans. this means it's not clear if there will be any more hearings or any more witnesses in the house pross. the next hour may be the final
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substantive hearing that we have before democrats move to marking up articles of impeachment. we don't know yet, bute w're going to pay close attentioni because i it will move fast. >> woodruff: and finally, back to you, yamiche, how -- we kn the white house wasn't participating in what's going on pa the houg se, assume house hmpest, enwhite house is going to have o participate in that. how are they preparihi? >> the house is taking a very different snce as it relates to the senate than they did with th thwhite house was gearito come d ng u the president. i talked to a white house aideid who sae was 100% certain there would be white houser lawyers at theial so the white ho is beefing up theuse staff. tomorrow, the russian foreign mister sergey lavrov will meet with president trump. the last time theussian foreign minister was here was in
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2017 and president trump was accused of disclosing classified information to an is.i.s. informant. people will be watching closely because driver's license are making the case -- because democrats are making the case all ros lead back to this investigation. >> woodruff: yamiche alcindor, lisa desjardins, both of you all dalong on this story. m thank you vech. >> woodruff: in the day's other n ss: idpriavlenest irad volodymyr zelenskiy held theirne first one-oneeting. that came in paris, after they emmanuel macron anrmanent chancelor angela merkel, for umbroader talks at a peacet. the goal is to end the conflict in eastern uaine, where russia backs rebels against the kiev government.
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north korea red hostile new words at president trump today. former nuclear negotiator kim yong chol called the president "a heedless and erratic old man." that came after mr. trump tweeted sunday that north korean leader kim jong un "is too smart and has far too much to lose" tn return to ostility. iran says it is ready to swap more prisoners with the u.s., ster an excy.hadaurngaton tehran freed a chinese-american schor accused of espionage. washington released an iranian scientist charged withting sanctions on iran. in tehran today, a government spokesman said the swap does not open the door to broader talks. >> ( translated ): we are ready for cooperation to bring back all the iranians unfairly imprisoned in americ but i emphasize that the exchange was not done based on negotiations.
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>> wdruff: at least four american citizens are currently held in iran. alice in hong kong report they've made 6,0ests during six months of pro- democracy protests. today's announcement came after hundreds of thousands of ceprotesters marched-- peafully- - through the city on sunday. many carried banners and chanted "fig ciaped m iht fed fre."om advance. in france, mass stkes kicked off the work week with near stand-still commutes. parisis crammed into the few available trains, as transit workers stayed off the job for a fifth day. and in lille, train tracks at usually-bustling stations were empty. the strikers are targeting president emmanuel macron's calls for pension changes. the world anti-doping agency banned russia today from international sporting events for four years over state- sponsored doping. russian athletes will still be
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allowed to compete at next summer's olympics in tokyo and elsewhere, but not with their flag or national anthem. in switzerland, the anti-doping agency said russian authorities have only themselvesame. >> russia was afforded every opportunity to get its house ine and to rejoin the global anti-doping community for the good of its athletes and for tht inteof sport. but it chose instead a different route. >> woodruff: the russians signaled they will appeal to the "court of arbitration for sport." after a volcano erupted todayad off new zealand's coast. eight more are missing and feared dead. it happened on white island ine y of plenty, just north of the mainland. dozens of people were exploring e area at the time. most were evacuated, but some were critically injured. back in this country, the united states supreme court left in place a kentucky law that
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mandates ultrasound exams fo women who want abortions. the statute requiresoctors to perform the ultrasound and show the images to the patient bere any abortion procedure.an ppeals court had upheld the law. comment-- refused iew thatt ruling. onall street stocks pulled back as investors kept watch on u.s.-china trade talks the dow jones industrial averago 105 points to close at 27,909. the nasdaq fell 34 points. and the s&p 500 slipped almost 10. and former federal reserve chair paul volcker died toda his passing came 40 years after digit inflation. economics correspondent paul solman looks back at volcker's life and work. >> reporter: at 6'7" paul volcker was known as "tall paul." and indeed htowered over economic policy for more than 60 years.
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president jimmy cart chose volcker to head the federal reserve in 1979 when the u.s. faced runaway inflation. to bring prices unr control volcker, never without a cigar, choked off the money supply, driving up interest rates to diourage lending and borrowing. volcker defended the policy on th program's first incarnation, the "macneil lehrer report," in 1981. >> the way you're going to get those interest rates down is by ting in policies that will indeed continue to bring the inflation rate down. and at some point this dam is going to break and the psychology is going to change. >> reporter: sky-high interest rates had the desired effect, but caused deep recession and unemployment that reached nearly 11%. homebuilders sent volcei protests scrolled on wooden planks. but volcker stood tall. >> you can't deal with that problem by simply saying we're going to let inflation go ahead. >> reporter: volcker's policies may have cost carter the 1980
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election, but in a statement released today the one-term president said, "paul s as although some of his policies as fed chairman were politicall ly, they were the right thing to do." by 1983, inflation had come dowc dramly and president ronald reagan re-appointed volcker, a lifelong democrat, as fed chair.on but the two lashed over the growing federal deficit, due which volcker feared might re- ignite inflation. volcker left the fed in 1987. in the years after he was so hilast legacy: advising president obama after the 2008 financial crisis, pressing to restrict commercial banks from making risky iestments, a controversial reform known as "the volcker rule." for the newshour this is paul solman. >> woodruff: paul volcker was 92-years-old. still to come on the "newsur," a bluster trove of documents unveils the lies undergirding the war in afghanistan; amy
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walter and tamara keith on the moves from the democratic campaign trail; and singerlalate songwriters morisette's "jagged little pill," a milestone of '90s rock opens on broadway. >> this is the "pbs newshour" and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> woodruff: this is a blockbuster story, the years of several years of reporting and legal pursuit of government documents. for the last 18 years, according to the government reports obtained by "the pos" senior u.s. officis have been misleading the american public fghanistan.ar in a john yang has the story. hn yang has the story. >> reporter: judy, it was "lessons learned," a project started by a special inspector
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general tasked with probing u.s. operations in afghanistan. and those lessontell a very different private story-- one of misguided and fatal dyunction that violently contradicts the narrative pushed by three successive u.s. presidentsnd their administrations. >> we've made progress, after all, girls are back in school. i pursuit of our goals we've made significant progrs.ha >> we'll seehappens. but we've made tremendous progress. >> reporter: "the washingtonst waged a three year legal battle with the government to craig whitlock is ads learned." reporter on the story. craig, you read through some -- thousands of pages of th speer views, what was the big takeaway that you came away with? >> just how blunt the people in charge of the war were about the failings of the strategy, about why we were thre, about who the enemy was. leapt out at me was from armyeu
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nant general doug lute, the war czar in the white house for both bush and obama, ande said we didn't have the foggiest notion of what we were wedertaking in afghanistan didn't know what we were doing. he said, 2,400 lives were lost in vain. when you see things like that from generals in charge to have the war, they vab -- in charge of the war, they grab yournt atn. >> reporter: did you get a sense from these people you talked to why -- they were saying these things private to the interviewers, but why in public?hings >> you know, that's a really haven't elaborated.a lot of them i think what happened is these people were being interviewed by another government agency, and many of them hadce assurthat they wouldn't be quoted by name or tha ct themments wouldn't make it out without their toapproval, and "the washi post" took the position these are public records, these are people, senior government officials criticizing the war from top to bottom, that the publ has a right to know that,
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so we have been fighting that for a long time, and we finally managed pry a good numberof them loose. i think most of these people, they never thought they would be >> reporter: you ao say these reports as you say in the story written in dense bureaucratic prose and focused on an alphabet soup government initiatives left out the harshest and most frank criticisms of the interviews. did you get a sense of why that was? >> i asked the inspector general whose office was behind ie projecaid you have all these officials saying what a disaster the war was, how could you keep that from the public when your job is to hold the government accountable for the war, how could you sit on this? i didn't get much of an ans maybe they get around to it in a forthcoming report. but i think this was so explosive what they were saying, anyaher governmenhts found it too hot to handle and wouinld it would be better to bury
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it. >> woodruff:. >> repter: you would thy they would want the most frank commentary to teach these lessons. they weren't inerested in spreading it to the government. >> when they started the project in 204, everybody assumed the war was coming to an end and i think they thought it was a safe time to do a lessons-learned back in time to see whato look happened. of course, at that time, president obama said he was going to wihdraw all troops at the time he left office. that didn't happen.r whenump took office, he ease congratulated the war. there were more troops there, the bombing from the air, the air rs intensified greatly. so i think the war went on much longer than even this agency or anybody in government thought. eo i think it became much mor sensitive and they felt they had to keep it under wraps while the >> woodruff: the people interviewed not only just talked about the military strategies but alot talked about thher sttegies. you pointed out that more than the amount of mney that's been adjusted fornflation is more
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than the united states spent on the martial project after world war, two and what's to show fro it were, from this report? >> well, not much. what we heard in an intvi after interview that these people gave, particularly aide workers in the field, military officers, diplomats, they all said this was more money than they could possiblynd. they were ordered by congress and officials back in washington during the obama adtration to spend, spend, spend as they could, and they were really graded on how much money they spent, not on whether the projects made any sense. and the people who had to do this, they said,t only didn't it make sense, but it breck because it fueled corruption, alienated the afghan people against the afghan government and just made everything much, much worse. >> and you're going to have more coming in the coming days? >> we are. every day we are coming out with a new volume. tomorrow w'll have a piece on
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how flawed the strategy was both for bush and obama and again in the vlices of the pee who ran the war. >> craig whick to have the woes -- craig whitlock of the woes with very important reporting. thank you very much. >> woodruff: with eight weeksio until th caucuses and 15 democrats still vying for their party's presidential nomination, amna nawaz reports on how the top-polling candidates are turning their criticism on each her. ( cheers and applause ) >> reporter: south bend indiana mayor te buttigieg today announced he will open all future fundraisers to the press and make plic the names of his top financial supporters. that, after public pssure from fellow 2020 candidate, massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. >> americans are sick of the typical politician who says one thing out in public and then
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goes behind closed doors. it's time for everyone in this campaign, and that includes the mayor, to open up those closed door funaisers and let the press come in.r: >> reporren herself faces criticism from buttigieg for her closed-door events during previous senate campaigns. the two are also sparring over questions about who theyes reted while in private practice: buttigieg as a consultant at mckinsey, and warren as a corporate lawyer. late on sunday, warren's campaign released additional client names and income, totaling $1.9 million over 25 years as a private attorney. buttigieg has so farsed information on the nature of his consultancy work, not a stient citing a non-disclosuret. agreem late today, mckinsey said itm would allow disclose clients names meanwhile, in nevada, vermont out of fray, focusing mored broadly on campaign finance.
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ai>> they say all those ca contributions from the rich, they don't impact me. really? then why do you think these guyg are givihe money? of course it impts you. >> reporter: former vice president joe biden, asked about buttigieg in interview witho, "axios on noted the mayor's difficulty courting black voters. >> mayor pete obviously has had difficulty garnering black support in his home city. i've never been uncomfortable or unwelcomed in the african american community. and because they know i care deeply about the issues that affect them and systemic racism pill exists. >> reporte bidls higher than any other candidate among leading the polls so far are all white. with just ten days before the next debate, no candidates of color have made the cut. new jersey senator cory booker, struggling to gain gro national polls, has decried the n standardslificat
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for putting more billionaires than aican americans on the >> to win in the next election, we had massive dropoffs between0 and 2016. in african american voting. and as a resulstwe lost three es. whoever the next candidate is, they better have an authenc connection with african american communities. >> reporter: candidas still hoping to take part in next week's debate, have until thursday tmeet the requirements. csd that brings us to poli monday with amy walter of "the cook political report" and puic radio's "politics wit amy walter." and tamara keithf npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." welcome to you both. good to see you. amy, i want to stttrt with you. ieg has been under pressure to release, as we just list from his time in mckenzie. mckenzie said you can release it. his campaign spokeswoman said they will be releasing the client list soon. is there something on trehehat
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could damage him? do voters care about this? >> well, we'll see what's on there and whether it matters, but it's pretty clear what's going on now. iowa, as judy pointed out, is two months away. pete buttigieg is now far andfr away thontrunner in iowa, that used to be elizabethe warren'sritory, she was seen over the summer as the candidate most likely to win ioa caucus, she needs to get back in contention and pete buttigieg is standing in her waso it makes perfect sense she's going to be spending time to kck him off his plies-place finish. it's also really clear that twe of them need iowa as a springeard. they areng not only have they both been frontrunners in the polls during certain pointers of this mpaign but both are expecting iowa to rosta iw hampshire aay and that they think will hep them to go to nevada and south carolina, places ey're t polling as well because in the opening we heard tey're not
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doing as well, especially pete buttigieg with voters of color. >> you look at the battle between warigren and bug so far, it strikes me we have it on thatdemocratic sidhe same time we have a president who hasn't released his tax returnse is a different bar and for democratic voters, in particular? >> there's a battle of radical transparency going on on the democratic side, but this is ant the democratic prdmary, they are signaling thy will be different than president trump. vice president biden has had reporters in his fundraisers all ong, elizabeth warren has no been having those big bernie sanders red his tax returns and he was one of the more relrentuc ttantmp o lneitsy in court every few days fighting to keep his records sealed. >> go ahead. and it'ls aso, tam points out
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what's important in democratic primaries thin that may be animatinvoters aren't necessarily things that animate independent voters or voters who aren't voting in the dmocratic primary but it is pretty clear that what they are also doing wir the sparring back and th and i think we'll see it on the debate stage is who can stand up you, who's goingbe able to,s at when they get punched, be able not only to take it bu be able to counterpunch really quickly? >> amy, something you've looked at is when twocandidates hone in on each other and spar like this, it's often an opportunity for other candidates who are not involved in the process to rise up. who benefits from this. >> i thinkf you are somebody ke amy klobuchar, you're watching this and saying maybe this is my opportunity now. i have been sitting in fifth place and, you know, maybe if the shine comes off those top two candidates, they drop a little, it gives me an opportunity to focus on my message while not coming under, attaey're all going to be
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focusing on each other. i think it's probably good for rjoe biden, too, fo the spotlight to be off him. every ti sme thepotlight is on him, it's usually for not goodas s. we're talkinog uthi fsocus on s for buttigieg and warren give him an opportunity to make his case. >> the splielt will be on a few candidates, another debatpe iben louisiana, we at "newshour" are co-hostg with friends at politico, but take a look at th candidates who have qualified so far. a reminder, we still have a few days before theualifying deadline. all six candidates, biden, buttigieg, klobuchar, sanders and warll six candidates who met all f the thresholds toi qualify are . if you look at the four candidates on the cusp potentlly, they have met one debate qualification not the other, b congresswoman gabbard and mr. ya have to make one more poll to qualify
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and could do so,here's a divide there, very clear, and, have been talking to democratic volters out there f a parrateeer enthusiastic around it. is that a problem in all white debate stage? >> my colleagues have been out talking to democratic voters as you d sometimes what they're hearing from voters of color who are democrats is this sort of whisper of we want to take on trump, we think that, you know, maybe somebody like a biden a sanders or, like, er a candidatee of color can take on trump. there are a lot of-- as you talked to democratic vo a lot of democrats are still sortr of replaying 2016, trying to fit re out what wenong, what they can do this time to beat the president, and you hear ines sort of whispered tones a number of people i talked to, women saying, well, i don't know if a woman can beat trump, and my colleagues who have been out
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have heard voterolorlast week saying, well, we just don't know if, you know, maybe -- maybe we need a white guy to take on president trump. >> well, yea and les be clear, too, when we look at the -- we get the farm team of potential presidential candidates, ere aren't a whole lot of women and people of color there. look at governors, look at senators. the only two african-americane senators in entire united states senate are currently running for president or wee, obviously kamala harris just dropped out. so the poal is not t deep, and of the folks in the pool who to happen is the senate andne governorship needs to a lot more like the democratic coalition in the house. that actually isr much moe reflective of the democratic electorate, the house caucus, which is majority female and non-white, and that is what eventually the theory is that the senate and govulnorships
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look like but we're not there yet. >> before we go, i wanted to get ur take on this long-awaited release of the watchdog re the justice department's inspector general. in 30 seconds, what did you maku of president and his attorney general? >> the response from president trump and his attorney general is almost likrethey we looking at a different inspector general's repore esident and attorney general barr have wanted to focus on sort of discrediting the entire investigation, and barr, much as he dd wih the mueller report, came out, made a see in here.s is what i >> tamera keith and amy walter, that is"p itics mony." good to see you both. >> thank you. >> woodruff: "jagged little pill alanis morisette's grammy-award winning album released in 1995, became the angry and raw soundtrack of a
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generation. today, it is the basis of a musical that has just opened on broadway. rring the musical's initi jad bowen explores the music's current connection to the stresses in our family lives. the story is part of our ongoing arts and culture series, "canvas." ♪ ♪ >> reporter: it came out of nowhere. released just before summer in 19, the album "jagged little pill" tore into culture with all the ferocity its title would suggest. teenager-- alanis morisette, who had been a purveyor of pop in her native canada. today she remembers she suddenlo had something ther different to say. >> i was giving myselfo permissionpress exactly what was going on without sugarcoating it. >> reporter: over the next year atcame a flood of singles burned through the sheen of life.
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itas the anti-pop. and writing with producer glen ballard, morisette got real and raw. ♪ ♪ >> there wasnc agem.y ttohe it was, it was almost manic, in a way, a very channeled experience, super exhausting. but really, really gratifying, and we got all the vocals on tapeone or two takes. um, 80% of the record are the original demos. so it was a very sacred experience, certainly. >> reporter: the record won five grammys, went on to sell 33 million copies and is noamong the bestselling albums of all do you look back aow and... what happened? what the heck happened? ( laughs ) >> good question. you know, i mean, i-- i make funny guesses at this, but you know some of it was, was that vement.as a whether we-- whether it was the feminist movement or consciousness evolution movement.
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and the wave was happening, and el as though i put my hand up and volunteered to be on the front top of the wave with my surfboard, you know and... and, um, i became a spokesperson of a kind for this emergence of, of,n of an auc experience of what it is to be human, what it, what those times.a woman in >> reporter: today, under the direction of tony winner diane paulus, "jagged little pill" is taking on a new life-- as a brand-new musical at the >> the running joke became, you know there was a-- a ircumstance in this story that was emerging and-- and i would say "i have a song for that!" and they would say "of crse you do!" ( laughs ) >> reporter: the musical centers on a middle class family in connpeticut. picturect on the outside, they're unraveling from within, beset by a host of issues plaguing families today, from opioid addiction to sexual sault. >> i was up for it, uh-- out of
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the gate. i you know iidn't want the songs to, to lead, as such, i wanted the songs to support the story. if that makes sense. songs do an incredible amount of heavy r-- heavy lifting. >> reporter: academy award winning screenwriter diablo cody, makes her theatrical debut with "jagged little pill," writing the show's book. with myriad projects in the cody says she didn't have timelm for the show. but as someone whose adolescence was shaped by morisette, she couldn't say no, either. >> i couldn't not do it. those ar can't walk away from, when you think to yourself, "i will be consumed with jealousy and rage if somebody else gets to do this."hs ( la ) like, the ones where you just... yocan just see future you regretting not doing this. >> reporter: here, cody hasd creae family, and all the issues drowning them, as a metaphor for society writ large. addiction chief among them. s ap says, for a show called "jagged little pill."
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>> we are in alace as a society where a-- a lot of people are in despere need of comfort... and are feelingust kind of disenfranchised, and so it honestly doesn't surprise me to see this, you know. the, the cris-- the opiate crisis, itust doesn't-- it, it feels.. sort of gresquely appropriate to the times. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: as does morisette's music-- even though it'sow more than 20 years old. >> it's just cra-- it's crazy to me how well it holds up, there's no song that i hear and think "oh, that's juvenile." or "oh, i can't believe i thought this was profound when i was-- ( laughs )." if anything, i-- it's more profound to me now." >> i can still sing it with as much conviction perhaps even mor based on the fact that i think there's more receptivity to some of the that i dive into when i write. i >> reporter:ncluding anger-- a label that's always been synonymous with her work and which defines some of the show's younger characters. >> i love anger. you know, and if i'm going to
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be, um, one dimensionalized as anything, i'll take anger. force.it's a gorgeous life i think it gets a bad rap because of how it shows upst ctively in the world, the actings out of anger in destructive ways is a big boo for me but the actual life force itself, in the sense in the body of what anger is in the heat, e,and the jaw clench, and he forward movement-- i mean, it helps me, and others i'm assumi, uh, set boundaries, speak up for oneself. saying "no." >> reporter: morisette says when she finished the album, she had no idea it would be so successful. >> my dad said when i was younger... he goes"sweetheart, people are going to love you, people are going to hate you, and most people won't give a you know, and i said "okay. well, if that's the case." you ow, i'm left with just defining myself, and trying things on for size, and seeing if they fit, and defining what my value system is, and how i want to show up, and how i d't want to show up, and, that's all i can continue to do >> reporter: morisette's intention has always been to make the music matter. a philosophy she now carries to
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e musical. ♪ ♪ bowen of wgbh in cambridge,ared massachusetts. >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us on-line and again here. tomorrow eveni for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. m or funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> bnsf railway. >> warner brothersres oa>> and by the alfred p. foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial litera in the 21st century. >> supported by the john d. and foundation.. macarthur committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. more information at maound.org
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