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senate has called it a day,tes after hearing the present's defense against impeachments. char his lawyers rejected those charges, as well as demands for witnesses. amna nawaz begins our coverage. >> if there iso objection, the urnal of proceedings of the trial are approved >> nawaz: on day seven of the impeachment trial of president donald tmp, his lawyers wrapped up their defense, urging senators to avoid setting what they describe as a dangerous polical precedent. >> the bar for impeachmentnn be set this low. house managers, members of the senate.da danger, dangerer. these articles must be rejected. the constitution requi. juice demands it. >> nawaz: thbar set by house democrats, they argued, took policy differences and elevated them to impeacble offenses.

>> so the idea that we're going to be impeaching presidents by decidi that they have illicit motives, if we can show that they disagree with some interagency consensus, is fundamentally contrary to the constitutionand fundamentally anti-democratic. their claims that presidented trump did not abuse his power by pausing u.s. aid to ukraine, and did not obstruct congress by stonewalling house r investigatoruests. mr. trump's defense was brief, using less than half its allotted 24 hours. but his hope for a short trial could be in jeopardy, after two straight days of headlines from leaked excerpts of former national security advisor john bolton's upcoming book. sunday night, the "new york times" reported president trump told bolton he would continue to hold up aid to ukraine until officials there helped with an vestigation he wanted into his possible political rival, former vice president joe biden and hio hunter. on monday night, new details from the "timeex" that bolton essed concern about

president trump granting personal favors to autocratic leaders other countries. bolton's book is still unpublished, but the revelationr stru at the of the president's impeachment defense, leading to questions about what else bolton could say, if subpoenaed. democrats, including c schumer of new york, dialed up the essure on republicans to join them and vote for witnesses. >> this is manuscript. it will be public. what are they hiding? yoddon't need it in classif and it's not good enough. there is no substitute to a witness speaking under oath. >> nawaz: republican senator mitt romney of utah said he'd like to hear from bolton, but not just bolton. >> i think the idea that's been expressed in the media about having each side be able to choose a witness, or maybe more than one witness on a pair basis has some merit. i think if you're going to have one side call witnesses, the other side ought to do the same. >> nawaz: republicanenator lindsay graham of south carolina went even further.

>> i'll make a prediction: the will be 51 republican votes calling joe, hunter, the whistleblower, and d.n.c. stfer, at the very minimum. congressman adam schiff, lead house impeachment manager, warned against. >>f they want a witness for a witness, that is not what they want.ey ant a distraction, and they don't wantheir proceeding >> nawaz: back in the senate chamber, the president's team responded directly to the headlines swirling outside the room. >> nothing in bolton's book, the revelations-- even if true. even if true-- would rise to the level of abuse of power or impeachable offense. that is clear from history. to ultimately rejerging senators articles of impeachment. >> it will show that we can come together oboth sides of the aisle and end the erof impeachment for good.

>> nawazmore than an hour after his legal team concluded its defense, president trump left the white house for a rally in new jersey. the senate will reconvene to continue impeament proceedinno tomorrow aft. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz. >> woodruff: and we turn again to our lisa desjardins and yamiche alcindor. lisa, i'm going to start with you upon i know you've been talking with republicans. what are y picking up in terms of their willingness to hear from witnesses? >> there was a fascinating meeting today, judy, after the president's team finished their presentation. all the republican senators gathered in the strom thurmon om to discuss where they are and the way forward. judy, they came out of that meeting and, clearly, yo could tell the issue is not settled among republicans. and to be specific, senator lamar alexaer of tennessee, who is retiring-- we've tlked about him before-- told our daniel bush, he is not decidedu on thetion of witnesses and he wants to wait until after all

of the senators get to ask their questions over the next two days before he makes that decision. whs that means it is not clear if there are 51 votes for or against witnesses. also, i want to say i talked to senator kevin cramer of north dakota,e sid you cannot underestimate the pressure on republicans from the prsident and their base. he add one thing-- what's kind of going aruound the cacus the most is ala alan dershowitz's talking a lo about the idea of whatever the president dright or bronx, is ichpartnershippable. . >> woodruff: all of that is fascinating. miche, to you, what abut the ceend of pressure, the president, the white house is putting on senators? and do they think the defense did the job they needed them to do >> the president's legal team and the president feel pretty confident that they did the best thy could do with the president's call. now, there was, of course, that conversation and that comment

from the president's lawyer to e senate saying ths wasn't wasn't a perfect call. but they really built this case to say look, the president didn't do what he is accused of ing. and of course alan dershowitz came up and said even if he did do what they sad he dit is not impeachable. they're going to continue to pressure senators to not vote acquit the prsident. course the white house feels a little shaky about the idea there might be witnesses called. but they still feel very confident the presenwill be acquitted. the other thing to note, of course, the white house saying president trump is keeping business as usual at the white house. today he releasehis middle east peace plan. he is on his way to new jersey to go to a cmpaign rally. he has another in iowa. oas all this is goi, the president is focused on doing the business of the american people, although the prsident on social media and in interviews is very, very poaxed on the paement trial. >> woodruff: given all that,

lisa, what do look for tomorrow? >> at last we get to heartthoughts of senators themselves. senators will only be ableto ask questions in written form but they will be able to ask questions dar the next twoys. each side will get eight hours, and that will be a very telling sign, i think, what stood out to senator pips don't know if that will tell us where the votes are. aftequestion period for two days we will have the big day on friday. there will be some argumenot from sides about whether witnesses, that discussiold she open. then there will be that vote over whether to open he witness discussion or not. that will tell us everything about substance and schedule frefort of the trial. it will end in one or two days or could it go on? could we get a lot more information in the coming weeks. friday will tell us almost everything about the impeachment trial. >> woodruff: that's after the next two days f questions posed by senators. >> senators have been sitting there for hours and hours taking copious notes.

>> woodruff: yamiche, fin tly, how e white house preparinnar? do they know what the republican senators are going to be asking? how are they getting ready? >> well, the fis rst thinge white house feels as though the legal amy team left senators with the lasting image of the fact they played video of democrats samyingeachment shouldn't be too partisan and impeachment by vote. partisan they played that video and then said now is the time to getand ready for these questions. we were just on a call with urces from thpresident's legal team, and they say essentially they're ready for anything. i asked specifically, are youo ready for johnon to testify? is that something are you preparing for? and they are esentially saying they might be pressuring or saying it's executive privilegel and he s not be coming before the senate. that being said, there are democrats who say the pr already waived that because he was tweeting and saying that he never told john bolton tht he wanted to tie the aid directly to this invonestigao democrats. the other thing to note, though, the white house's legal team is having to deal with new developments boy the day because

of th manuscript. we are told that no one outside of the national curity council has seen the manuscript, but there's a chance the white house's legal team has beenon briefet. they wouldn't answer whether or not that's the cse. and because of that, they might still already have information that they're using to get ready for the senators' qstions. >> woodruff: so much to follow. yamiche alcindor, lisa desjardins. thank you, both. >> woodruff: let's turn now or one of the jin the president's impeachment trial, senator elizabeth warren of massachusett and she's also one of the democratic candidates running for her party's presal nomination. senator warren joins us now. >> thank you. it's good to be here. woodruff: so what do y make of the main defense now that the president's team has put forward that, frankly, even if he did what he's accused of doing, having a phone call with the president of ukraine, askemg o look into the bidens in return, posrsibly, f aid,

that's not impeachable? as a matter ocin nothing the he alleges is impeachable. >> so, look, i think it just c kind omes down to common sense on this. think about if the shoe had been onthe other foot, and if what had happened is the president of ukraine had called and said to the predent of the united states,un", we need more aid, and that the president of ukraine would be willing to dig up dirt on a political rival in return for getting more aid. i think we'd all look at thatth and sayat's bribery, right? and wh happened here, at least this is what all the evidence rting, is instead of it sta in ukraine tstarted in the united states, with the president saying to te president of ukraine, "we'llta release mi aid and make an invitation to the white house if the president of ukraine will of the president of the unitedal states. >> woodruff: so do you think this would have been a scaronger if it had been bribe row

instead of abuse of power? >> it seems to me that that really is. it's technically not bribery because it didn't initiate in the same place, but i think that's the heart of what we're talking about. say psident entitled to make decisions that are decisions about our foreign policy, about our national defense, about using xpayer dollars, for purposes of trying to promote himself politically or economicallyfor his own personal benefit? and i think the answer to most americs-- regardless of your political party-- is no, that's. not rig >> woodruff: what about the other argument they made at the beginning of their presentation, and then again at the end today, and that is this is something that should be up to the american vots. this impeachment process is taking place just months away from the next presidential election. 's not up the senate. it ought to be up to the american electorate. y >> wel know, i kind of

have a couple of feelings around that, the first sremember exactly who is been alleged here. what's been alleged is that this is a presidentho was trying to interfere with an election. right? not just somethi else going on fraudulent, but trying toirnt fear with an ection. and that is exactly what everyone, i believe, is trying to protect-- the inte egrity of ection pro also, if the president's people are so confident thawhat the president has done is not a problem, then why can't we have witnesses and documents? why can't we see the emails that were passed back and forth? again, i think fair-minded people all across this contry just want to see a fair trial. and i've never harvard a trial where you can't have witnesses and you can't have he cuments. >> woodruff: of course, all this is happening while and you w others-- a feher people are competing in the iowa democratic caucuses, which take place on monday. essentially, i hear you saying

d you think it's a gooea to have witnesses, even if it means you sit in that chair in the senate longer, and you can't get back to iowa. that's right. buthere are some things that are more important than poontics. this i the third impeachment a president in the history of the united states. i took an oath of office to uphold the constitution, and the constitution is pretty cle i-- no o above the law, not even the president ofhe united the way we hold him acountable is through impeachment. i took an oath and i will be there as long as that trial needs me. oodruff: let's talk a little bit more about the caucuses, about what's happening in iowa and new hampshire. the polls are showing right now yore slipping. bernie sanders is rising. how do you explain who is going on out there? >> it's funny youy, would sa that i really don't focus on polls and haven't from the beginning. i thourtt we were going to st with is i just got endorsed by the "des moines register," and "the storlake times." what i feel-- and that's all i

can tell you you-- when i'm out in iowa is i can tell how may people are truly off the sidelines and in this fight. pele all across iowa-- and th''s true whether were in cities or rural iowa-- understand that for decades now we have had a government that forks just great for expwrnt corporations billionaires and works great for the lobbying class. itst not working for them. when you have a government that everyone else, it's corruption. and we have a chance in 2020 to turn that arod. and that's why i think so many people are in this fight. people want e makis happen. that's how wore going to beat donald trump. i talk about what's gone on fore de donald trump has taken corruption to new lows. we're going to drawt distinction between a corrupt president and someone who is willinupto stand o those corporations. that's how i'm going to beatru donald in november. >> woodruff: in this campaign,

are you seen as competing for a t of same-- many of the same voters as senator sanders. he's come after yoaiur ca. we've seen some cri flyers that were out there. there was what happened in the clearly ended up in some sort of disagreement over what he had said about h whether head told you that a woman could win. have you spoken with nator sanders about all this? where does that stand? >> look,ernie and i have been friends for a very long time. wove worked together on a lot of same issues. i've said what i'm going to say about this. but i'll tell you this: i am in this fight fooitecause i believe that i've got the best chance to win. you know, fa lot o folks have asked the question, "can a woman really w?" and the world has changed since. 20 once donald trump was inauguratedux you may remember what happened thene verxt day-- the biggest protest rally in the history of the world.

women turned out and said, "wowo i'm goin get deeper into politics am. so what happened? in 2018, we took back the housea we toock state houses around this country. why? because of women candidates an women who got out to support and help make sure thaocdemts got elected. what the data show are that women candidates have been out-performing men candidates in competitive elections since donald trump was elected. let's face it: wen wi >> woodruff: but you still have, senator, it's clear, from talking to voters, a lot them still believe that they're rried that if awoman is the democratic nominee, she won't be >> look, there were a lot of people who worried a catholic couldn't win back in 1960. a lot of peopleri wo that an african american couldn't win in 2008. but we are better party than that. we are a better country than that

e democrats stepped up and said, "we're going to nominate the person we thiknk would me the best president of the united states." that's exactly what they did, c and thanged america. this is our chance to change america in 2020. >> woodruff: senator elizabeth warren, thank you very much. >> thank you. it's good to see you. >> woodruff: appreciate you joining us. thank you. and to you, our viewers, please continue to tune inoo >>uff: and to our viewers, please continue to tune in to our special live coverage of the impeachment trial when itrr resumes to at 1:00 p.m. eastern-- check your local listings for that-- and online on our website or youtube. news, president trump rolled out his middle east peace plan. it envisions a palestinian state with parts of east jem as the capital, but it also tycognizes israeli soverei over major west bank settlements. palestians condemned the plan,

but the president called it a "win-win" foboth sides. we will take a closer look, after the news summary. u.s. health officials ramped up efforts today to contain the spread of a deadly virus fm china. or u.s. airports and other sites will now monitorick travelers-- an increase of 15. so far, therare only five confirmed cases in the u.s., and alex azar, secretary of counseling calm. services, is >> the risk to any individual american is extremely low. we are taking the steps to be prepared for this. we are taking aggressive action. but the individual american, this should not be an impact on their day-to-day life. >> woodrf: meanwhile, in china, the u.s. state department ben flying american diplomats and others out of wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak. that came as chinese officials reported more than 100 deaths out of 4,500 confirmed cases.

in afghanistan, the u.s. military today recovered the remains of both crew members killed in a plane crash on monday. their surveillance plane went down in ghazni province, which is largely controlled by the taliban. officials say there are no signs the plane was shot down. a powerful earthquake, and at least one heavy after-shock, hit today in the caribbean sea, betwn cuba and jamaica. the initial itake had a mae of 7.7, and was felt from south florida to the cayman islands. there were no immediate reports of casualties or heavy damage. the british government will let chinese telecom giant huawei build parts of britain's next generation mobile neorks, known as "5g." the u.s. had warned against thea moveng huawei would share intelligence with the chinese governnt. but in the house of commons, british foreign minister dominic raab sd the company's role will be limited to lower-risk

parts of the 5g networks. >> high-risk vendors should be, first all, excluded from all safety-related and safety- critical networks in critical national infrastructure. secondly, excluded from security-critical network ednctions. and thirdly, limo a minority presence in other network functions up to a cap of 35. >> woodruff: we will hear more about the british decision latee inrogram. back in this country, the head of harvard university's chemistry department has been charged with lying about working for a chinese recruitment program. federal officials said crles lieber concealed payments heiv re from beijing. it was part of a chinese program that recits people with owledge about u.s. technology and intellectual property. the u.s. budget deficit is expected to reach $1 trillion this year, for the first time sinc2012. the congressional budget office reported today that x cuts and

new federal spending are fk,ling the red espite a healthy economy. the last trillion-dollar deficits came during the recovery from the great recession. and on wall street, tech stocks led a rally that recovered some of monday's losses. the dow jones industrial average gained 187 points to close at 28,722. the nasdaq rose 130 points, and the s&p 500 added 32. still to come on the newshour: president trump unveils his plan for middle east peace. what's in it, and will it work? espionage and the future of wireless technology. chinese company huawei, versus the rest of the world. plus, much more.

>> woodruff: it has been an elusive goal for decades, to end generations of conflict mi the le east. nick schifrin unpa fs today's plm the trump administration. >> schifrin: from his very first words, president trump y,scribed what he's called the deal of the centn the context of israel. >> today, israel takes a big step toward peace.la >> schifrin:ed by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, president trump unveiled the most detailed peace plan in history. over 50 pages, the plan endorses a palestinian state, but it would not have control over its defense or airspace, and wouldn't come into existence unicss palestinians met spec conditions. >> together, we can bring a new dawn of the middle e ht. >> schifrie is today's map. the border since the 1967 wa in yellow, is the occupied west bank. map.this is the new peace plan's israel would surround a

palestinian state, control a corridor along the jordan border including the jordan valley, and the homes of 97% of israeli settlers in the west bank would become part of israel. the international community considers those settlements p illegal, aestinians call the jordan valley the breadbasket of their future state.ne bunyahu used the announcement to launch unilateral annexation in the west bank, which he referred to using biblical names judea and samaria.>> israel will apply ito the jordan valjey, to all the sh communities in judea and samaria, and to other areas that your plan designates as part of rael. >> schifrin: president trump said the u.s. would accept thati ch decades of u.s. policy. >> and the united states will recognize israeli sovereignty over the territoryhat my vision provides to be part of the state of israel. >> schifrin: the maplso changes southern israel. these are gaza's borders today. the w plan would expand gaza and create a tunnel between gaza

and the west bank, to make ast palestiniae contiguous. >> this is the first time israel has authorized the relse of a conceptual map, illustrating tho territoriaromises they're willing to make, and they've gone a long way. >> schifrin: on perhaps the most contentious issue of all, jerusalem-- today president trump, by emphasizing two words, seemed to decide its fate. >> under this vision, jerusalem will remain israel's undivided-- very important-- undivided capital. >> schifrin: but five minutes later, he said jerusalem would also be a palestinian state's capital. >> this map will more than double palestinian territory,id and pra capital in eastern jerusalem, where america willn proudly openbassy. >> schifrin: the palestinians are not part of this deal, and they protested today in gaza, even before the release.

palestinian authority mahmoud abbas rejected it outr >> ( translated ): after thet nonsense t heard today, we say 1,000 times "no, no, no" tol the f the century. >> schifrin: that rejection, despite the plan providing palestinians with $50 billion of economic investmen since 1967, when israel captured the west bank and all of jerusalem, the u.s. has tried to negotiate middle east pee. in 1978, president carter hosted an israeli-egyptian pact. in 1994, president cnton hosted an israeli-jordanian pact. but israeli-palestinian peace has proven elusive. in 2000, president clinton with palestine liberation organization chairman yasser in 2003, president bush with prime minister ariel sharon and palestinian authority mahmd abbas. john kerry, with abbas, andtate prime minister benjamin

netanyahu. l efforts that failed. >> forging peace between the but i was not elected to do small things, or shy away from big problems. >> schifrin: we get two views on this plan. friedman, he is the u.s. ambassador to israel. ambassador friedman, tou for joining us. welcome to the newshour. >> thank you, nick. thanks for having me. >> previous attempt as you knows anpresident trump marked today have, failed at israeli-palestinian peace. wherdo you think you ca succeed where your predecessors thve failed? s is different. this is a hard offer from the israelis for the first time in the history of this conflict, where the israelis indicate the terms on whicey're willing to live side by side in a palestinian state, the palestinian state,ions of a conditions that need to be put in place before they would agree

to live sde by side a palestinian state. this is different in terms of details, in terms of really creating, i think, a very clear pathway for palestinian statehood. and, look, we think the palestinians s aould engagd we're very grateful that so many other countries arnd the world have issued sch constructive statements urging the same thing. >> with those details, of course, comes the opportunity for people toci cri them. and there are specific details that the palestinians are criticizing. a couple them: the territory of what is now the west bank is shrinking. everything on the israeli side of the security barrier in jerusam is being given to israel. palestinians ging up control of their air spce and defense. no right over palestinian homes.es to return to their are you making a genuine attempt to engage with palestinian aspirations? >> look, of course palestinians willriticize. i'm sure there are many israelis icizinga well. the question is what are they

going to do next? they're not going to get more by holding a day of rage. if they want to address this, i suggest they follow the urging of the international community, which is being expressed in so many differe places and come to the table and speak with the israelis. >> let me t get e reaction. the arab countries in the region so important. you've idenfied their interest as so important to the success of this plan. the egyptians, the ma rawdies have discussed. theordanian forgn minister has warned against the dangerous consequences of unilateral israeli measures, such as the annexation of palestinian lane , ilding and expansion of illegal rel settlements ond palestinian-aunds. and he said thoseould violate international law and push the area towards more conflict and tension. those actionare what prime minister benjamin netanyahu promised to do today after this

plan was reased. do you fear this plan could increase conflict and tension? >> well, look, hitouldn't. we'll work more closely with the kingdom of jordan. you kno the plan recognizes the special role of king adbullah with regard to the muslim holy shrines. we don't share their view on the law. but what i think we hope they opportunity that's createas forward a better life for palestinians, and by the way, for jordanians as well. >> you acknowledge that a map that has no palestinian state border with the jordani border, anno requirement for israeli settlements to be moed back or moved into the future acknowledge that that map could make it difficult for arab countries to support this? >> i think arab countries want see the parties negotiating. these are-- these are terms that, the palestinians care about them and want to discuss, they should come to the tabele. look, on't believe in

evacuating settlements. we don't believe in evgacuat palestinians from their homes, either. we think the palestinians should ve this a hard look. look they've got four years. we're not requiring that the palestinians react to it immediately. the israelis, at our request, are freezing the territory that is bing allocateed to the palestinians for four years, no development. agso time is not worainst them. and they should take a deep breath, study the plan, identify what they like about it, identify what they don't like about it, and if they want to change tthey should sit down with israel and we're h to facilitate those discussion. >> ambassador, one of the conditions on the palestinians is to pass human rights and corruption laws, stopping nstatectors, and building institutions. you have been of the u.s. effort to cut off some of the assistance to palestinian authorities. how can the palestinians build those institutions if the u.s. won't provide them the economic assistance to help them do so? where the palestinians acceptt

this vision and indicate a willingness to create these institutions, and if there is ac financiaponent to it, i'm sure we'd be happy to look at it. >> just tout a pont on it: you are suggesting there is an opportunity here for the u.s. t reverse licy from the last couple of years and actually eestart some of that aid to palestian authority? >> yeah. i think the ball is in ramallah's court right now. >> ambassador david friedman, one of the archicts of this p >> schifrin: and for t palestinian perspective, we're joined by nour odeh in ramallah. she's a political analyst and former spokesperson for the palestinian government. thank you very much. welcome to the newshour. you were just listening toed ambassador frn say it's not-- it's important not to revert back to old arguments. y not at least pledge to be at the tae for what is genuinely a dferent approach toward peace? >> well, it's a different approach, but i would-- i would say that it's not anpr apch for peace. what we saw presented today was an agreement between trump, who

wantwants combat the impeachmet hearings, and netanyahu, the israeli prime minister who is struggling from corruption charges. boe a vested interest in surviving politically and speaking to their base, and that's exactly what they did with this plan. but thei certainlydn't speak to peace, nor did they speak to of that peace.s and req what trump presented is an assault on the very foundations of relations between states which have regulated peace and security forer 70 years. it flouts international law. it legitimizes annexation. it legitimizes settlements, all of whi are crimes under international law >> engage with some of the specifics of the plan, not onlyc anonomic incentive-- $50 tllion, quite a lo-- but the argument the ambassador made, to

put a land swap on the map and give, essentially, gaa, more territory for the palestinian state. >> right, more territory in thet desert, while annexes territory that has the only water aquifer in e west bank, and while israel kind of p discart of its territory,ia and palestisraeli citizens in this so-called swap. look, what we have here is not an arangement for peace. itance arrangement that allows the rel right wing to stay in power, tat allows israel to get prid ofalestinian communities and form some sort of-- whatever-- self-rule that trump wanted to call a state. president tump emphasizedg today. jared kus, hne ambassador of the plan, david friedman, one of the authors, have identified. is that useful to a palestinian population that doesn't connect wi their government, many of

whom see as corrupt, but do wane a brightnomic future? >> well, let me fut to you this way: the israeli occupation cost the palestinian economy 98% of g.d.p. every year. the rel restrictions, the rel checkpoints, the confiscation of land, the restrictions on investment and development, the banning of palstinian activity in the very area that trump nowt wants isra annex in violation of international law-- all of thsse cost u nearly our entire g.d.p. every year. ending is the occupation is the fastest, quickest, cheapest way to ensure palestinian economic prosperity. and we wouldn't even need the worlto give us any handouts. this is a highly educated population, a population full of youth, full of vitality, full on gy and entrepreneurship.

if all of that is being denied by the continued occupation, which the trump plan basically offers an indefinite extension of, ad that's why it doesn't work. $50 billion that jared kushner is talking abut, along with trump, will be waechted. >> quickly, i read to ambassador friedman the jordanian statement, whicwas implicitly critical of what netanyahu was saying he was ao out. but the egyptians and emirates have come out and said take this seriously. arab neighbors will not be onthe your side right now? >> well, look, ultimately, a deal has to be struck to theie paof that deal. the egyptians can welcome it ala theyt. they're not ones who are going to be signing. they are not the es who have to soin. it's the palestinians. if the american administration distribute reach a point where they can see palestinians aso

equally rthy of prosperity and justice and freedom, then all of this is asted effort, and just one mepre stutting the united states on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of international law. >> nour odeh, joining us from ramallah, thank you very much. >> woodruff: as we reported, the united kingdom will allow the chinese technologyirm, huawei, to build part of its new 5g cellular network. the u.s. government argues that huawei poses a national security riskand should have no role builng networks for our >> brangham: that's right, judy. huawei is the largest manufacturer of telecommunications equipment in the world. it is also the second biggest cellphone manufacturer. the u.s. government argues

huawei is too close to the chinese government, and letting the company bud telecom networks leaves those networks vulnerable to chinese espionage. last year, in his series on china, my colleague nick scfrin repted on huawei's effort to build a suite of products called "safe cities," and hothat technology might be used. here's a short excerpt from that report. >> schifrin: it may look like an apple event in california, but this is germany, and the presentation is r the chinese company huawei. >> we're the first one, 5g. >> schifrin: last month, huawei launched the world's first chip with integrated 5g, fifth-generation, technology. it will dramatically speed upph es, and is designed to connect everything around us, transmit huge amounts of data instantly, and transform entire cities. >> we're now walking on the floor that touches everything in your city. >> schifrin: huawei chief di edwin diender shows off what huei calls a smart city.

closed-circuit cameras feed into a database with advancel artificial igence, and facial recognition can identify everyone, cross-reference license plates, and analyze unlimited information. huawei promotional videos 5g, and surveillanhow a of a.i., brain processes information to control the body. the u.s. fears that huawei's information isn't secure, because the control isctually the chinese government's. >> to have huaweoperating as a 5g network in our country, or in our allies' countries, we believe, represents a fundamental compromise of our national security and the privacy of millions of citizens. >> brangham: the u.k.'s decision to allow huawei in came despite months of intense lobbying by in response, the u.s. says it might limit intelligence sharine een western allies. garrett graff has been coveringf huaw "wired" magazine.th

welcome back tnewshour. >> thanks for having me. >> can you talk a little bit heard a little about from vicee president mike pence there, the concern the government has about huawei and thris national se concern? >> so 5g, the technology that you were just talking about, is going to be the foundational underpinning of the next generation of your cell phone, your connected car, your connected refrigerator. pois is going to be whawers american life and western life and human life ovethe next decade. and the u.s. government and the trump administration has spent the last two years arguing that allowing huaweio build that network, to be sort of the ople at the center of al of that information and data is just too much of a risk, "that that is hanmading over tony sinister possibilities to the government of china, from sort of stealing and reading thate

data to t possibility of, you know, turning the networks on and off in a time of great tension with china. >> so how real is that i mean, what is the esms for this? we saw senator to cotton recently equating huawei to ilding data networks is the equivalent of letting the k.g.b. building pho systems back during the cold war. is it really a trojan horse? >> te don't know andhat's part of what makes this moment so fraught for both huwei and wan u.s. government. i mean, the u.s. government sak , look, the ris just too big. it may be a trohojarse. it maye not a trojan horse. this is a company, according to the u.s. government, has a pattern of intellectual property threat and espionage, a pattern of evaigd u.s. sanctions in doing business with countries like iran and north kea and

authoritarian regimeses in africa t help enable the surveillance and the oppssion of th minority in northwest china. this is just a company wedon't want to be doing business with thp we don't want to take this risch. huawei says, look, we're a plumbing company, you know. it's not up to us to figure out what goes through the pipes. we just build the pipes. they say they are an employee-owned company, a priet company, in dhiena, and mr. wde the fo and visionary behind huawei has said he would rather shut company down than evermp mise his company's data. the u.s. gayvernment ising you may not have a choice. it appears huawei could acually be coerced and required to cooperate with chinesete

igence if asked. >> the uk an the u.k. said we wy allow what they adof admit say high-risk vendor to, that they are bas to quantine huawei from one part of it and everything will be secure. is that true? the u.k. has a very long history with huawei of brietish tlecom, b.t. they approach the issuean differently he u.s. they think there are two sides of the coin-- datna acness, d availability. they're sort of making the choice we can limit huawei's data access to the network while in risking this open question about the network available, whether huawei could still turn the network on and off. >> they might have the tiebility shut the system down but they wouldn't have a look at what's passing over the it. the u.s. has sai if you're

building huawei equipments into your networks, that threatens ours-- makes you unsure of sharing intelligence secrets. does this represent a long-term relationship to you? >> it's probably pretty doubtful that much would change in the u.s. relationship wie u.k. you know, this is the-- >> the special relationship. >> it's a specialg relationship. the intelligence partnership, partnership we have te u.k. is the closest, titlest relationship we have with any country in the world. the bigger challenge, and sort of long-term door the u.k. moves opens,f yo are any other country facing the high-pressure campai from the u.s. to block from their systems. if you are germany, if you are, pola you are italy, and you were of you were already on the fence, yo will probably look a this decision nd say if

the guk can get away with it, so gl. we. >> garrett graff, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> woodruff: one of the most critically acclaimed films of the ye, nominated for ten academy awards, is "the irishman," and one of its stars is among the best actors of many years: robert de niro. jeffrey brown sat down with de niro recently at the new world stages in new york, for "canvas," our ongoing arts and culture series. >> i hear you paint houses. >> yes, yes sir, i do. >> brown: it's an epicfiz american organed crime and political life in the 20th century." the irishman"s directed by martin scorcese, but ohe idea for ginated with his longtime friend and collaborator, robert de niro, after he read the charles brandt book on which it's based,"

i heard you paint houses"-- code for maf-killings. >> once i read it, i said," marty, you've got to take a look at this." >> brown: why? >> the character was great.u? all the things he described were very real, and the situations, the way he talked, everything.is it hadric characters like jimmy hoffa and joe gallo, even how they were killed it had a historic size to it and sizable historical panorama. it was terrific. >> is that frank? hiya, frank, this is jimmy hoffa. >> glad to meet you, even if it's over the phone. >> brown: the story had all that. the film has de niro as fran sheeran, a world war ii veteran who becomes a mafia foot soldier and hit man, working his way up. it's an all-star cast, some of the greats of the era, iluding joe pesci as russell bufalino, a crime boss who takes frank under his wing.

and, al pacino as the headstrong labor boss jimmy hoffa, for whom frank works. the real hoffa disappeared in 1975, presumably murdered. ar was declared dead in 1982. >> they wouldn't >> i'm tryg to warn him that everybody's getting nervous and so, he's been given a very clear warning to b'scareful. but ot listening. he's just going off. and i'm like, "what am i going to do?" >> brown: and it's not giviny too much awa say you don't convince him. h >> no, i mean,s a little headstrong. b wn: in real life, like his "irishman" character, de niro is a man of few words. a life-long new yorker, he grew up in greenwich village, t son of two artists, and credits acting with helping overcome shyness as a child.

>> being an actor enables you to play other parts, have other experiences. limid in some ways, of cours but getting to know a character, being that world, delving into so, it kind of forid with me, forced me to be looking to this world. what's that about? what's that character? behavior?e reason for their >> brown: "mean streets."" taxi driver."" raging bull." just one example among many of the lengths he would go to transform himself into hisr. charac and the list of great performances goes on and on. in the comedy, "analyze this," he even parodied his own by-then well-recognized mannerisms and acting style. this is like eating bait.ll >> brown: in asome 115 films to date, a seven-time academy award nominee, with two oscar wins. >> i use elements of my

character or mysf that i feel personalize it, if you will. if something feels right, i might not even know why, but it feels right for this. , n we try, and say, if i'm working with marll try something. i'll say, "what do you think about this?" he'll say, "yeah, okay. okay, try it. it sounds okay." i'm not sure why, yo? it jt feels right. >> brown: so is a craft, right? >> it's a craft, and there is a mystery to it. approach a part, and i always feel that whatever works, as long as you don't hurt yourself, or anybody else, it's okay. most satisfaction ou'reu the acting? >> when a scene is, i feel, done to its maximum, if you will. and then it has the effect that when it's put together.i aer ght feel that way doing the scene from my end and, say, if i'm doing that scene with al, i look and i say, no, he's great. i'm actually responding as

moment-to-moment in real-time as i feel i can. so, that feels good. now, how will it be putwh together, an kind of an impact would it have? that makes me happy if it works. >> brown: do you teach actors or give advice to youngs? >> what i say to actors, young actors, if they're going for a reading, for example, "assume that you're not going to get the part.": >> brovery practical. >> yeah. just so that you can free you to try things in your reading wh because what do you care? you're not going to get it. so, try whatever you think even if it's a little off the way. just act as if you don't have the part. it frees you in a way, >> brown: "the irishman" drew totention for its extensive use of digital techn de-age the actors, allowing de niro and others to appear to be decades younger. at age 76, he's joked that the chnology will allow him to prolong his career indefinitely. but wille?" the irishman" is itself a kind

meditation on aging and mortality, even bringing together a group of great noolder actors. >> it's about the family relaonship, about gettingan older dealing with all of that. and that was the appeal of it, you know? >> brown: did it end up feelingl like a kind ofnation for you? i mean, it is sort of a gathering of a tribe, in a sense, right? >> yeah, i felt that. i don't know if we would ever be doing another movie together jke this, and so it felt right. to have al in, a, and marty recting us, that was great if it could happen. >> brown: that hardly means an ed to acting, though. de niro also appeared in this year's acclaimed "joker" film, d he remains busy planni new projects, including another with scorsesthat will co-star leonardo dicaprio. why keep working?

>> at this point, well, that's what i'm going to do. what else am i going to do? >> the one, the only... mr. robert de niro. ( applause ) >> brown: last week saw another honor: a lifetime achievement award from the screen actors guild. an outspoken critic of president trump, de niro used that platform to defend his right as an artisto speak out: >> and if i have a bigger voice because of my situation, i'm going to use it whenever i see a blatant abuse of power. ( applause ) >> brown: in addition as one ofe anacemy award next month, when "the irishman" is up for best film. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in new york. >> woodruff: one of the best ever. we hope he keeps on doing it forever.

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