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has called it a day afterhe ing the president's defense against impeachment articles. hich lawyers rejected thges against him as well as demands , for witnesses. amna nawaz begins our coverage. john roberts: if there is no objection, the journal of proceedings of the tri approved to date. amna nawaz: on day seven of the impeachment trial of presint donald trump, his lawyers wrapped up the defense, urging anators to avoid setting what they describe asangerous political precedent. jay sekulow: the bar for impeachment cannot be set this low. house managers, members of the senate, danger, danger, danger. these articles must be rejected. the constitution requires it. justice demands it. amna nawaz: the bar set by house democrats, they argued, took d poliferences and elevated

them to impeachable offenses. patrick philbin: so the idea that we'reacoing to be imng presidents by deciding that they have illicit they disagree with some that interagency consensus, is fundamentally contrary to the constitution and fundamentally anti-democratic. amna nawaz: and they reiterated their claims that esident trump didn't abuse his power by pausing u.s. aid to 'raine and d't obstruct congress by stonewalling house investigators' requests. mr. trump's defense was brief, using less thahalf its altted 24 hours. dyt his hope for a short trial could be in jeopafter two straight days of headlines from leaked excerpts of formeron naal security adviser john bolton's upcoming on sunday night, the new york times reported president trump told bolton he would continue to hold up aid to ukraine until officials there helped with an investigation he wanted into his possible political rival former vice president joe biden and his son hunter. on monday night, new details from the times, that boltoex essed concern about president trump granting

personal favors to autocratic leaders in other countries. bolto's book is still unpublished, but the revelations struck at the heart of the president's impeachment tofense, leadinuestions about what else bolton could say, if subpoenaed. democrats, including chuck schumer of new york, dialed up the pressure on republicans to join them and vote for witnesses. th is a manuscript. it is going to be public. what the heck are they hiding? you don't need it in classified, and it's not good enough. there is no substitute for a witness speaking under oath. amna nawaz: republican senator mitt romney of utah said he'd like to hear from boltt not just bolton. sen. mitt romney: i think the t's been expressed i the media about having each side be able to choose a witness or maybe more than one witness on a paired basis has some merit. i think, if you're going to have one side call witnesses, the other side ought to be able to do the same.re amna nawazblican senator lindsey graham of south carolina went even further. sen. lindsey graham: i will make

prediction -- there will be 51 republican votes to call hunter den, joe biden, the whistle-blower, and the dnc staffer, at a very minimum.mo amna nawaz: that democratic congressman adam schiff, lead house impeachment manager, warned against. rep. adam schiff: if they want a witness for witness. but that's not really what they want. they want distraction. and i don't think the senators want to allow their proceeding to be turned into a rcus. amna nawaz: back in the senate chamber, the president's team responded directly to the headlines swirling outside the room. jay sekulow: nothing in the bolton revelatio, even if true, even if true, would riseto he level of abuse of power or an impeachable offense. that is clear from history. amna nawazbefore urging senators to ultimately reject the ticles of impeachment. pat cipollone: it will show that we can come together on both sides of the aisle and end the era of impeachment for good. ramna nawaz: more than an

after his legal team concluded its defense, president trump declined to weigh as he lefte the white housr a rally in new jersey. continue impeachment proceedings tomorrow afternoon. for the "pbs newshour," i'm amna nawaz. judy: we turn again tois our desjardins and yamiche alcindor. lisa, i'm going to start with i know you have been talking with republicans. what are you picking up in terms of their wilfrngness to hear witnesses? lisa desjardins: there was a fascinating meeting today, judy, after the white house the president's team finished their esentation. all republican senators gathered in the strom thurmond room, which is reserved basically for imortant moments like this, discuss where they are and the way forward. judy, they came out of that meeting. an clearly, you could tell the issue is not settled among republicans. and, to be specific, senator ,mar alexander of tenness who is retiring, we talked about him before, told our daniel busch he is not decid on the

question of witnesses and he wants to wait until after all of the senators get to onk their quesover the next two days before he makes that decision. what that means is, it is not clear if there are 51 votes for or against witnesses. also, i want to say i talked to senator kevin cramer of north dakotaan he said, yout underestimate the pressure on republicans from the president and their base. but he also noted one thing. what's kind of around the caucus the most is alan dershowitz's presentation, and they're talking a lot about the idea of whether, whatever the president did, right or wrt g, ispeachable? that's something the president's these undecided senators.st with judy woodruff: well, all that is fascinating. so, yamiche, to you. k what about td of pressure the president, the white house is putting on these senators? and do they think that the them to do?he job they needed yamiche alcindor: thele president'l team and the president feel pretty confident that they did the best that they could do with the president's now, there was, ofe, that conversation and that comment

from the president's lawyer to the senate saying, this wasn't a but they really buis case to say, look, the president didn'do what he'accused of doing. and then, of course, alan dershowitz comes up and sa, even if he did do what he did, he this is not imheachable. s're really hammering that home. the white house has been in contact with senators from the beginning. they're going to coreinue to presenators to not vote for witnesses and to, of course, acquit the president. the white house feels a little shaky about the idea that there might be witnesses called, but they feel still very confide that the president will be acquitted. the other thing to note, of course, the white house is saying president tmp is keeping business as usual in at the white house. today, he released his middle st peace plan. he also is on his way to new jersey to go have a campaign rally. he has another one in iowa. so the president and t white house are saying, as all this is going on, the president is still very focused on doing the business of the americho people, evenh, of course, the esident on social media and in interviews has been very, very focused on this impeachment trial, because he sees it as tied to his legacy. judy woodruff: so, given all that, lisa, and reat you're rting, what do we look for tomorrow? lisa desjardins: well, at last, we get to hear the thoughts of

senators themselves. senators will be able to ask ueestions only in written form, but they can askions for the next two day each side will get eight hours. and that sign, i think, of what has stood out to senators. i don't know if it will tell us l ere the votes are. we, of course, wep talking to senators. after this question period for two days, then we will have the big day on friday. there will be some arguments witnesses. es about whether that discussion should be opened.then there will be that e over whether to open the witness discussion or not. that will tell us everything probably about and schedule for the rest of the trial. will it end in one or two days, or could it go on? could we get a lot more information overs?he coming we friday will tell us almostyt evng about this impeachment trial. judy woodruff: but that's after these next two days of the questions posed the senators. lisa desjardins: right. and these senators have been sitting there for hours and hour taking copious notes. they have a lot of questions. and we will start to hear them tomorrow. judy woodruff: so, yamicow, finally,s the white house preparing for that? do they know what the republican

senators a going to be asking? how are they getting ready? yamiche alcindorwell, the first thing is that the white house feels as though the legals team left senaith a lasting image of the fact thatde they played of democts saying that impeachment shouldn't be too partisan, and that there shouldn't be a partan impeachment by vote. so they played that video. and th ty basically walked away and said, now the time is ready to get ready for these questions. we were just on a call withom sources he president's legal team. and they say, essentially, that they're ready for anything. i asked specifically, are youfo readjohn bolton to testify? is that something that you're preparing for? and they aressentially saying that they might be pressuring or saying that it's executive privilege and at he shouldn't be coming before the senate. that being said, there are democrats who say the president already waived that because he atwas tweeting and saying e never told john bolton that he wanted to tie the aid directly to this investigation to democrat the other thing to note, though, having to deal witlegal team is developments by the day because of this manuscript. we are told that no one outside

of the nional security council has seen the manuscript. but there's a chance that the white house's legal team has en briefed on it. they wouldn't answer whether or not that's the case. and because of that, they might still have information they are using to get ready for the judy: so much to follow. yamiche alcindor, lisa desjardins, thank you both. yamiche alcindor: thank dy: now we want to talk with somebody whoas been a juror in this impeachment trial. she is senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts. she is also one of the democratic candidates running for her party's presidential nomination. senator warren, thank you for being here. senator warren: thank you, it is good to be here. judy: what do you make of the main defense, that even if he did what he isccused of doing, having a phone call with the president of ukraine, asking them to look into the bidens and returnossibly for aid, that is not impeachable, in fact,

nothing the houseaclleges is imble. sen. warren: so what? i think it comes down to common sense on this. think if the shoe had been on the other fo and if what had ppened, the president of ukraine had called and said to the president of the united states, we need more aid and that the president of ukraine would be willing tdig up dirt on a political rival in return for getting re aid to read we could all look at that and say, that is bribery. apwhatned here, at least this is what the evidence shows, is that instead of iin sta in ukraine, it started in the united states,ith the pressaying to the president of ukraine, we will release mitary aid and make an invitation to the white house if the president of ukraine will dig upon dir a political rival of the president of the united states. judy: so you think it had been a

stronger case if it had been reibery? sen. w it seems to me, it is technically not bribery because it did not initiate in isthe same place, but thahe heart of what we are talking siabout. is a pnt entitled to make decisions about our forgn policy, national defense, usin taxpayer dollars, for purposes of trying to promote himself politically or economically for his own personal benefit. i think the answer to most americans, regardless of political rty is no, that is not right. judy:hat about the other argument they made at the beginning of the presentation and at the end again today? that this is something that should be upo american voters. this impeachment process is taking place just months away from the next presidential election. it is not up to the senate, it ought to be up to the american electorate. sen. warren: i have a couple

feelings around that. first, remember what has been alleged. who wasa preside trying to interfere with an election. no just something else going on fraudulently, but trying to interfere with an election. this is exactly what everyon trying to protect, the integrity of the election process. also, if the president's people are so confident t presiden has done is not a problem, then whyan't we have witnesses and documents? thacan't we see the emails were passed back and forth? i think fair-minded people across this country just want to i have never heard of a trial wthat cannot hanesses and documents. judy: all of this is as you and a few others are competing in the iowa democratic ucuses, which take place monday. essentially i hear you saying you thk it is a good idea to

have witnesses even if it means senate longer and cannot get back. sen. warren: that is right, more important than politics.e this is only the third impeachment of a president inhe the history of.s. i took an oa of to uphol the constitution and it is clear no one is above the law, not even the president. the way we hold him accountable is throu impeachment. i will be there as long as the trial needs me. judy: let's talk more about the caucuses and iowa, new hampshire. slipping, bernie sanders is rising. how do you explain what is goi on? sen. warre it is funny you say that, i do not focus on polls and have not since the beginning. moines register and i have beens en by the storm lake times. what i feel, and that is all i can tell you, whei am out in

iowa, i feehow many people truly are off the sidelines and in this fight. people all across io or rural iowa.hether in cities understand that for decades we have had a government that works just great for giant corporations, works gr for ilion errors, plants, it is just not working for them. when you have a government that works best for those of the top and not everyone else, it is corruption. we have a chance in 2020 to turn that around and that is why i think so many people are in this . people want to make this happen. that is how we will beat donald trump. i talk about what has been going on for decades. corruption to new lows. we will draw the distinction between a corrupt president and someone who is willing to stand up to those corporations. that is how we will beat donald trump in november. judy:is in campaign you are

seen as competing for many of theame voters as senator sanders. he has come after your campaign, we have seen witticism, flyers. there was what happened in the last debate a few weeks ago where the two ofin you ended up disagreement -- have you spoken with senator sanders about this? sen. warren: bernie and i have been friends a very long time, we work together on many issues said about this.i he already i will tell you this, i am in this fight because i believe i have the best chance to win. a lot of folks have asked t a question, coman really win? the worldin has changed 2016. onced donump was inaugurated you may remember the next day the biggest protestto rally in the h of the world.

women turned out and said wow, i am g politics. deeper into in 2018 we took back the house. we took back statehouses around this country. why? because of women candidates and won who got out to support anhe make sure democrats got elected. what the data show are women candidates have been outperforming men candidates in competitive elections since donald trump was elected. let's face it, women win. judy: but youtill have, senator, it is clear from talkg to voters, a lot of them believe, they are worried if a woman is the democratic nominee, she will not be abl compete. sen. warren: there were a lot of people worried a catholic could not win in 1960,ored an african-american could not win in 2008. but we are better party thanth , a better country than that.

the democrats stepped up and id we will nominate the person we think will make the best president of the united states. that is exactly what they did and they changed america. this is our chance to change america in 2020. judy: senator elizabeth warren, thank you. sen. warren: thank you. judy: to you our viewers, please continue to tune into our special live coverage of the impeachment trial when it resumes tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. that and onlinn our websiteor or youtube. ♪ >> that evening, i am vanessa ruis in for stephanie sy. we willr return afe headlines. president trump rolled out his middle east proposal, with visions palestinian state with

east jerusalems the capital and recognizes israeli sovereignty over major west bank settlements. palestinians condemn the plan by the president called it a win-win for both sides. akwe will a closer look after the news summary. s. health officials ramped up efforts to contain the spread of a deadly virus from china. u.s. airports and other sites will now monitor for sick travelers. only five confirmed cases in the u.s.,nd the u.s. secretary of health services is counseling,. >> the risk to any individual american is extremely low. are taking steps to be preped. we are taking aggressive action, but the individual american, there should not be an impact on their day-to-day life. >> meanwhile in china over 200 u.s. citizens and diplomats ordered u. government chartered flight at the epicenter of the outbreak. chinese officials reported 1332

-- 132 deathai the pentagon the total number of u.s. service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injury to 50 following the iranian missile strike on an airbase this month. the third time the n hber of injuri increased. now to afghanistan the u.s. military recovered the remains ofoth crewmembers killed in a plane crash monday. there surveillance plane went down in an area largely controlled by the taliban. officials say there were no signs the plane was shot down. a powerful earthquake and at least one heavy aftershock hitting the caribbean sea between cuba and jamaica.e the initial qud a magnitude of 7.7 and wasou felt from florida to the cayman islands. there were no reports of the british government will let chinese telecom giant huawei build parts of its next generation mobile networks.

the u.s. had warned against this move, arguing huawei would share intelligen with the chinese government, but in the house of commons, the foreign minister said the company's role will be limited to lower risk parts of network excluded from all safety-related and safety-critical networks and critical natural -- national infrastructure. secondly, securityrical network functions and limited to minority presence another network functions up to a cap of 35%. vanessa: we will hear more about the british decision later. back in this country the u.s. budget deficit expected to rea $1 trillion this year for the first time since 2012. the congressional buffice reported today trump and ministration tax cuts and new federal spending are fueling reading, despite -- red ink,it dea healthy economy.

still to come on the "newshour" president trump unvls his plan for middle east peace. what is in it and will it work? espionage in the future of wireless technology, chinese compy huawei versus the rest of the world. plus much more. >> this is the "pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington and from the west at walter cronkite university in arizona. judy: it has been an elusive goal for decades, the end generations of conflict in the middle east. nick schifrin unpacks today's plan from the trump administration. nick schifrin: from his very first words,resident trump described what he's called the deal of the century in the context of israel. president donald trump: today, israel takes a big step towards

peace. nick schifrin: flanked by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, president trump unveiled the most detailed peace plan in history. over 50 pages, the plan endorses a palestinian state, but it wouldn't have control over itde nse or airspace and wouldn't come into existence unless palestinians met specific conditions. president donald trump: together, we can bring about a new dawn in the middle east. nick schifrin: here ay's map. the border since the 1967 war, in yellow, is the occupied west bank. and this is the new peace plan's map. israel would surround a palestinian state, control a corridor along the jordan border, including the jordan valley, and the homes of 97 % of israeli settlers in the west bank would becomeof israel. the international community considers those settlements illegal, and palestinians call the jordan valley the breadbasket of their future state. t netanyahu used the announcement to launch unilateral annexation in the west bank, which he referred to using biblical names judea and

samaria. prime minister benjamin netanyahu: israel will athly its laws tjordan valley, to all the jewish communities in judea and samaria, and to other areas that your plan designates as part of israel.re nick schifrin:dent trump said the u.s. would accept that, changing decades of u.s. policy. president donald trump: and the united states will recognize israeli sovereignty ov territory that my vision provides to be par iof the state ael. very important. [applause] nick schifrin: the map also changes southern ie ael. these za's borders today. the new plan would expand gaza, with ld given up by israel, and create a tunnel between gaza and the west bank, to make a palestinian state contiguous. president donald trump: this is the first time israel has authorized the release of a conceptual map illustrating the territorial compromises it's willing to make for the cause of peace. and they have gone a long way.ri nick sch on perhaps the most contentious issue of all, jerusalem, today, president trump, by emphasizing rds, seemed to decide its fate. president dona trump: under this vision, jerusalem will

remain israel's undivided very important undivided c. [applause] nick schifrin: the plan calls for the outskirts of east jerusalem, already behind what israel calls the security barrier, to become palestine's capital. president donald trump: this map will more than double palestinian territory and provide a palestinian capital in eastern jerusalem, wmerica will proudly open an embassy. nick schifrin:he palestinians are not part of this deal, and they protested today in gaza, even before threlease. palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas rejected it outright. translator): afteronsensethrough that we heard today, we say 1,000 times no, no, noe deal of the century. nick schifrin: that rejection, despite the plan proding palestinians with $50 billion of economic investment., since 19when israel captured the west bank and all of jerusalem, the u.s. s tried to

negotiate middle east peace. hoin 1978, preside carteed an israeli-egyptian pact. in 1994, president clinton hosted an israeli-joanian pact.le but israeli-inian peace in 2000, presidentnton, with prime minister ehud barak and palestine liberation organization chairman yasser arafat. in 2003, president bush with prime minister ariel sharon anda stinian authority president mahmoud abbas.an in 2014, secretary of state john kerry with abbas and prime minister benjamin netanyahu, all efforts that failed. president donald trump: all prior administrations from president lyndon johnson have tried and bitterly failed. but i wasn't elected to do small ings or shy away fg problems. nick schifrin: and we get two views on this plan, and turn first to david friedman. s hee u.s. ambassador to israel and one of the architects of this plan. ambassador friedman, thank youh very mr joining us. welcome to the "newshour."

david friedman: thank you, nick. nick schifrin: preme. attempts, as you know, and as president trump marked today, ishave failed at eli-palestinian peace. where do you think you can succeed, where your predecessors have failed? david friedman: this is different. offer from the israelis for the first time in the history of this confli, where the israelis indicate the terms on which they're wdeling to live y side a palestinian state, the territorial dimensions of a palestinian state, the conditions that need to be put in place before they would agree to live side by side a palestinian state. this is different in terms of details, in terms of really eaeating, i think, a very pathway for palestinian statehood.oo and, we think the palestinians should engage, and we're very grateful that so many other countries around the worlu have issue constructive statements urging the same thing. nick schifrin: with those

details, of course, comes the opportunity for people to criticize them. and there are specific details that the palestinian criticizing. a couple them, the territory of what is now the west bank is shrinking. everything on th tisraeli side security barrier in jerusalem is being givo israel, palestinians giving up control of their airspace andri defense, nt over palestinian refugees to return to their homes. are you making a genuine attempt to engage with palestinian aspirations? david friedman: look, of course palestinians will criticize. i'm sure there are many israelis that are criticizing a. the question is, what do they do next? they're not going to get more by holding a day of rage. if ty want to address this, suggest they follow the urging of the international community, which is being expressed in so many different places, and come h to the table and speak we israelis. nick schifrin: let me get that international reaction. the arab countries in the region are so important. you have identified their interests as so important to the success of this plan. the egyptians and iratis have encouraged both sides to study the plan.

but there is a warning from perhaps the most important partner here. the jordanian foreign minister has "warned against dangerous consequences of unilateral israeli measures, such as the annexation of palestinian lands, the building and expansion of illegal israeli settlements on palestinian occupied lands." and he said that those wld violate international law and push the area towards more conflict and tension. those actions are what prime minister benjamin netanyah promised to do today after thisw pl released. do you fear this plan could increase conflict and tension? david friedman: well, look, it shouldn'or we will workclosely with the kingdom of jordan. as y know, the plan recogniz the special role of king abdullah with regard to the musl holy shrines. we don't share their view on the law. t but whatnk we hope they come to realize is the vast opportunity that's created for a tter life for palestinians, as well.the way, for jordanians nick schifrin: do you

acknowledge that a map that has no palestinian state border with the requirement for israeli settlements to be moved back or settlers to be moved into the future state of israel, do you acknowledge that that map could make idifficult for arab countries to support this? david friedman: i think arab countries want to see the parties negotiating. these are these are terms that, if the palestinians care about them and want to discuss, they should come to the table. look, settlements. e in evacuating we don't believe in evacuating palestinians from their homes either. we think the palestinians should give this a hard look. look, they have got four years' were not requiring that the palestinians react to it immediately. the israelis, at our request, are freezing the territory that palestinians, for four years, no development. them. e is not working ainst and they should take a deepth brstudy the plan, identify what they like about it, identify what they don't like about it. and, if they want to change it,

they should sit down with , and we're happy facilitate those discussions. nick schifrin: and, ambassador,t one conditions on the palestinians is to pass human stopping non-state actors, ending incitement, and building institutions.ee you havepart of the u.s. effort to cut off some of the assistance to the palestinian authority. how can palestinians build those institutions if the u.'t provide the economic assistance to help them do so? david friedman: i think if we're a point where the palestinians accept this vision, and indicate a willingness to crea these institutions, and if there is a financial component to it, i'm sure we'dap be to look at it. nick schifrin: so, just to put a point on it, youre suggesting that there is an opportunity here for the u.s. to reverse its policy from the last couple of years and actually restart some of that aid to the palestinian authority? david friedman: yes. i think the ball is in ramallah's court right now. nick schifrin: ambassador david friedman, one of the architects ofhis plan, thank you very much. david friedman: thanks, nick. appreciate it. a pleasure.

nick schifrin: and for the palestinian perspective, we're joined by nour odeh in ramallah. she's a politicaanalyst and former spokesperson for the palestinian government. thank you very much. welcome to the "newshour." ambassador friedman say it's not it's important not to revert back to old arguments. why not at least pledge to be at the table for what is genuinely a different approach toward peace? nour odeh: well, it's a different approach, but i would i would say that it's ort an approacheace. what we saw presented today was an agreement between trump, who wants to combat the impeachment hearings, and netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, who is struggling frogecorruption ch both have a vested interest in surving politically and speaking to their base. and that's exactly what they did with this plan. but they certainly didn't speak to peace, nor did they speakfoo thdations and requirements of that peace. what trump presented is an assault on the very foundations

of relations between stas which have regulated peace and security for over 70 years. it flouts international law. it legitimizes annexation. it egitimizes settlements, all of which are crimes under international law. nick schifrin: so, engage with plan, not only an economic incentive, $50 billion, quite a lot, but also this the argument that the ambassador made, which was a kind of unprecedented willingness of israel to put a land swap on the map, and give essentially gaza more territory for the palestinian state. nour odeh: right, more territory in the desert, while it annexes territory that has the only wateaquifer in the west bank and while israel kind of discards part of its territoryin and palen-israeli citizens in this so-called swap.ve look, what we ere is not an arrangement for peace. it's an arrangement thaelallows

the isright wing to stay in power, that allows israel to get rid of palestinian communities and form some sort of whatever self-rule that trump wanted to call a sta nick schifrin: the $50 billion is something that president trump emphasized tay, jared kushner, the architect of the plan, ambassador friedman, one of the authors, have emphasized. is that appealing to a palestinian population and perhaps a yohful palestinian population that doesn't connect with their government, many of whom see as corrupt,ut do want a brighter economic future? nour odeh: well, let mput to you this way. the israeli occupation costs the palestinian economy 98% of gdp every year. the israeli restrictions, the israeli checkpoints, the confiscation of land, the restrictions on investment and development, the banning of palestinian activity in the very areas that trump now wants to

allow israel to annex, in all of those cost us nearly our entire gdp every year. ending the occupation is thest t, quickest, cheapest way to ensure palestinian economic prosperity.' and we wouldt even need the world to give us any handouts. this is a highly educated population, a population full ot full of vitality, full of energy and entrepreneurship. all of that is being denied by the continued occupation, which the trump plan basically offers an indefinite extension of. and that's why it simply doesn't work. $50 billion that jared kushner talking about, along wi trump, will be wasted. nick schifrin: and, quickly, in the time i have left, as you rticed, i read to ambassa friedman the jordaian statement, which was implicitly critical of what netanyahu wasng sae was about to do. but i also noted that the egyptians and the emiratis have iscome out and said, take seriously.

are you worried that some of the arab neighbors will not be on your side right now? nour odeh: well, look, ultimately, a deal has to be struck between the parties of to that deal. the egyptians can welcome it all they want. they' not ones who are going to be signing. the emiratis can welcome it as much as they want. they are not the ones who have to sign. it's the palestinians. if the american administrationt doesn'ach a point where it can see the palestinians as prosperity and justice and freedom, then all of this is a wasted effort, and just one more step putting t united states on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side ofna internatlaw. nick schifrin: nour odeh, former spokeswoman for the palestinn authority, joining us from ramallah, thank you very much.no ♪r odeh: thank you.

judy: as we reported earlier, the united kingdom will allow the chinese technology firm huawei to build part of its new 5g cellular network. willm brangham reports the u.s. argues huawei poses a risk and should have no role building networks for american allies. >> that is right, huawei is the largest manufacturer of telecommunications equipment in the world. so it is he second biggest cell phone manufacturer. the u.s. government argues huawei is too close to the chinese government, and letting the company build telecomor ne leaves those networks vulnerable to chinese espionage. last year, in his series on china, my colleague nick schifrin reported on huawei's effort to build a suite of products called safe cities, and how that technology might be used. here's a short excerpt from that report. nick schifrin: it may look like an apple event in california,

tht this is germany, and the presentation is e chinese company huawei. >> we're the first one, 5g. nick schifrin: last month, rst chip with integrated 5g, or fifth-generation, technology. it will dramatically speed upsi phones and is ed to connect everything around us, transmit huge amounts of data instantl cities.ansform entire win diender: we're now walking on the floor that touches everything in your city. nick schifrin: huawei chief digital information officer edwin dienr shows off what huawei calls a smart city. closedircuit cameras feed into a database witadvanced artificial intelligence, and facial recognition can identify everyone, cross-reference license plates, and analyze unlimited information. huawei promotional videos compare the combination of a.i., 5g, and surveillance to how a brain processes information to controthe body. the u.s. fears that huawei's information isn't secure, because the control is actually the chinese government's. vice president mike pence: to have huawei operating as a 5g

network in our country or in our allies' countries, we believe,da represents a fntal compromise of our national curity and the privacy o millions of citizens. william brangham: the u.k.'s decision to allow huawei in came despite months of intensey lobbyinge trump administration. in response, the u.s. says it now might limit intelligence-sharing between western allies. historian and journalist garrett graff has been covering huawei for "wired" magazine. welcome back to the our." garrett graff: thank you for having me. william little bit more about this concern that we heard a little about from vice president mike pence there, tve concern the ment has about huawei and this national security concern? garrett graff: yes. so, 5g, the techlogy that nick was just talking about, is going to be sort of the foundational underpinning of the next generation of your cell phone,

your connected car, your connected refrigerator. ths is going to be what pow american life and western life and human life over the next decade. and the u.s. government and the trump administtion have spent e last two years arguing that allowing huawei to build that network, to be sort of the people at the center of all of that information and data, is just too much of a risk, that that is handg over too many sinister possibilities to the government of china, from sort of stealing and reading that p data, to tsibility of, you know, turning the networks on tension with china great willm brangham: so how real is that risk? this?n, wh is the evidence for we s senator tom cottoned recently equllowing huawei to build modern-day data networks as the equivalent of letting the kgb build phone systems backuring the cold war.ly is it re trojan horse? garrett graff: we don't know. and that's part of what makesom

this thist sort of so fraught for both huawei and the ovs. government. i mean, the u.s.nment ys, look, the risk i too bi it may be a trojan horse. it may be not a trojan horse. this is a company that, according to the u.s. ofgovernment, has a patter intellectual property threat and economic espionage. it has a pattern, according to the u.s. governmen of evading sanctions, u.s. sanctions, and doing business with countries like iran and north korea and authoritarian regimes in africa to help it helps enable the surveillance and the oppression of the uyghur minority in northwest china. this is just a companyn't want to be doing business with. we don't want to take this sk. huawei says, look, we're a plumbing company. it's not up to us to figure out we just build the pipes. and they say that they are an

employee-owned company, a private company in china. and mr. ren, the founder and sort of visionarbehind huawei, has said that he would rather shut the company down than ever compromise its customers' private or data. the u.s. government counters by saying, you may not have a under what is known as the 2017 chinese national intelligence law, it appears huawei could actually be coerced and required intelligence, if ainese william brangham: the u.k., in its decision-making, said, we'ro only going to what they admit is a high-risk vendor to have access to one part of their netwk. and they say this will be quarantine huawei or otherlly manufacturers from one part of it, and everything will be secure. is that true? garrett graff: so, t. has a very long history with huawei as a key vendor of b telecom, b.t. and so they just approach this

issue differently from the u.s. they think that there's sort of these two sides of the coin, data access and network availability. and they're sort of making the choice that we can limit huawei's data access to the network, while just and risking this open question about the network availability, whether huaw could still turn the network on or off. william brangham: so they might have the ability to shut the 'em down, but they wou't be able to look at what was passing over the system? garrett graff: effectively,e that's mble that the u.k. is making. william brangham: last question. what does this do? i mean, the u.s. has said, if you're building hu equipments into your networks, that threatens our makes us very concerned about sharing intelligence secrets, if it's on a potentially vulnerable network. does this represent a erm threat to u.s. intelligencer relationships,t? garrett graff: so it's probably pretty doubtl that much would change in the u.s. relationship this is the closest. william brangham: the special relationship. garrett graff: the special relationship.

ipthe intelligence partner national security partnership that we have with the u.k. is the closest, tightest relationship that we have with any country in the world.en the bigger cha and sort of the long-term door that the u.k. move opens is, if you are any other country facing tca high-pressuraign from the u.s. to block huawei from your systems, if you're germany, if you are poland, if you are aly, and you were sort of already on the fence, you're ably going to look at th decision and say, well, if the u.k. can get away with that, so can we. william brangham: garrett graff, thank you very much. .garrett graff: my pleasu ♪ judy: one of the most critically acclaimedhe year, nominated for 10 academy awards is "the irishman and one of its stars is one of the best actors in many years, robert deniro. jeffrey brown sat down with it

dinero at the new world stage is new york cyo canvass our ongoing arts and culture series. p i heardaint houses. >> yes, yes sir, i do.ri >> and epic ofcan organized crime in the 20th century. he irishman" directedrty scorsese, but the idea originated from his longtime friend and collaboratoobert deniro, after he read the book you paint houses," code forard robert: i said, you have to do this piece. jeffrey:? w robert: the character was great, all the things he described re the way he talked, everything. he had historic characters like jimmy hoffa and how they were

killed, ac historical panora view. >> hi frank, this is jimmy hoffa. >> glad to meet you. jeffre the story had all that, the film has dinero as a world mafia footsoldier and hitman working his way up. is an all-star cast, some of the greats of the era, including joe pesci as a crime boss who takes frank under his wing, and al pacinas the headstrong labor boss jimmy hoffa for whom frank works. the real hoffaisappeared i 1975, presumably murdered. he was declared deadn 1982. >> what is the matter with you? >> i am concerned. >> you look concerned. what are you concerned about? to tell you, it's what it is. he's been given a very clear warning to be careful.

>> they wouldn't dare. >> but he is not loitening, he is off. and i'm like, what am i going to do? jeffrey: and it's not giving away too much to say you don't convince him. robert: no he's a little , headstrong. jeffrey: in real life, le his "irishman" character, de niro is a man of few words. a lifelong new yorker, he grew up in greenwich village, the son of two artists, and creditsng acith helping overcome shyness as a child. robert: being aactor enables you to play other parts, have other experiences, limited in some ways, of course, by getting to know a character, being in that world. so, it kind of forced me to be looking to this world, what is that about, what's the charactth or what'reason for their , behavior? jeffrey:," "mean streetaxi," driv "raging bull," just one lengths he would g transform

himself into his character. and the list of great performances goes onomnd on. in they "analyze this," he even had fun with his own by then well-recognized mannerisms and acting style. >> bought your books. jeffrey: in all, some 115 films to date, a seven-time acemy award nominee with two oscar wins. robert: i use elements of my fcharacter or myself thatl will work for the character, personalize it, if you will. it's an unconscious process. something feels right. k i might not evw why, but it feels right for thi can we try it? and, say, if i'm working with marty, i will try something. i say, what y think about this? he says ok. i am not sure, it feels right. t,ffrey: so it's a cright? robert: it's a craft, and there is a mystery to it.

i always feel that whatever works, as long as you don't hurt yourself or anybody se, it's ok. jeffrey: what gives you the most satisfaction when you're acting? robert: when a scene is, i feel, done to its maximum, if you will, and then it hathe effect that you want. and that could be after, when i might feel that way doing the scene from my end. say, ii'm doing a scene wi al, i look and i say, no, he's great. m i'tually responding as moment to moment in real time as i feel i can, so that feels good. now, how will it be put together and what kind of impact will it have? that makeswoe happy, if it s. jeffrey: do you teach actors or ice to young actors? robert: well, i give advice, if what i say to actors, young actors, if they're going for a reading, for example, assume that you're not going to get the part. jeffrey:ery practical. robert: yes, that can

to try things in your reading what do you care? you're not . going to get it, so try it. even if it is a little off-the-wall just act as if you , don't ha the part. it frees you in a way. jeffrey: "the irishmandrew attention for its extensive use of digital technology to de-age the actors, allowing de niro and younger.o appear to decades at age 76, he's joked that the technology will allow prolong his career indefinitely. but will he? "the irishman" is itlf a kind of meditation on aging and mortality, even bringingto ther a group of great, now older actors. robert: it is about the w relationshh family, about getting older and dealing with all of that. that was the appeal of it. jeffrey: did it end up feeling clikemination for you? i mean, it is a sort of gathering of a tribe in a sense, right? robert: yes, i felt that. and i don't know if we would ever be doing another movie

together like this. it felt right. to have al and joe and marty directing us, that was great, if it could happen. >> you don't know the first thing about me, pal. jeffrey:hat hardly means an end to acting, though. de niro also appeared in this year's acclaimeer" film, and he remains busy planning new projects, including another with scorsese tlet will co-star ardo dicaprio. why keep working? robert: at is point, that's what i am goie to do. what i going to do? >> the one, the only, mr. robert de niro. jeffrey: last week saw another honor, a lifetime achievement award from the screen tors guild. an outspoken critic of presidenr p, de niro used that platform to defend his right as an artist to speak out. robert: if i have a bigger voice because of my situation, i'm going to use it whenever i see a

blatant abuse of power. jeffrey: in addition to starring in "the irishman," robert de niro served as one of the film' producers.ll be at the academy awards next month whenst it vies for ilm at the oscars. robert: ion't know what to say, russ. >> say anything, see how it looks. jeffrey: for the "pbs newshour," i'm jeffrey brown in new york. >> feel good? yes. judy:ne of the best ever. we hope he keeps doing it forever. that is the "newshour" for tonight. thank you and we will see you soon. >> major funding for the "pbs newshour" provided by -- >> colette guides travelers to experience the world in more than 160 destinations across five travel styles like small-group explorations. inclusive tours include local

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